Hi,
I went on a date today. This was the second date with the girl, she suggested interest first, so I said lets get drinks. We went to a bar, had 2 drinks and I said, let's get out of here. We took a walk and I ended up kissing her. We started making out and I said "isn't your place close, let's head there".
some LMR: "my place is too messy". me: That's fine, I've seen some really messy places.
for context, she's like 4 years older than me with a lot more real world experience and has been with a bunch of guys.
She then says: "btw, just so you know, I'm not going to do everything". I've heard from my friends that this is usually an LMR and it can be changed. So I maintained frame and said "yeah, that's cool". And then we asked me "so what are you looking for here?". I wasn't expecting this at all, so broke frame a bit here. I thought about it and said I didn't want to answer that. She kept pushing, so I asked her why. She said you seemed like a nice guy but I wasn't sure and I wanted to make sure you didn't just want me for a hookup. And also "I've never been with younger guys before". I responded and said "nah, I thought you were pretty thoughtful and cool". She was like, okay and we went over to her place.
We went in, hung out for a bit, and then started making out again. I lifted her by her feet, took her to the bedroom whilst making out, and we were making out on her bed.
I wasn't really sure what that "not doing everything" meant. And didn't want to ask to not break frame.
So we were on her bed, making out. She then says something along the lines of "you're cool if I say no yeah?" and I agree. I start escalating, and as soon as I try to go down on her, she's like, no. Turns me off a bit, I resume making out, we start getting more aggressive. We do this for a while, I try to go down again, she says no. I get kind of turned off. I try again after a while and she was like, wow you're really persistent. I was like, yeah I get that a lot. And then she goes, sometimes it pays to follow the rules. I respond: rules are meant to be broken. (not sure why I said that but spur of the moment). We basically keep making out, I lose interest after a while bc this isn't going anywhere. Looks like she loses interest too and then we stop, talk for a bit and then she's like, yeah I gotta do something so I'm gonna have to kick you out.
We have an awkward goodbye and I leave.
Suggestions on how I could've played this better?
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