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OUTER GAME: Use "Kiss Denial" to get more than a kiss.

joshsway

September 20, 2013

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Title	OUTER GAME: Use "Kiss Denial" to get more than a kiss.
Author	joshsway
Upvotes	1
Comments	8
Date	September 20, 2013 1:55 PM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/1mrzpb/outer_game_use_kiss_denial_to_get_more_than_a_kiss/
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[–]donit 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

What were the number stats that led you to believe kiss denial was a benefit? It seems unlikely, but I like how you're pushing the envelope, trying to identify a useful pattern. I'm not sure I buy the hormone theory, because I think her hormones are boosted tremendously by the kissing, especially oxytocin, which is the most important one for getting a woman to have sex. I used to have a girlfriend whom I would rub her shoulders for about 20 minutes just to get her oxytocin up, and then she'd be ready for forplay and then sex.

But one benefit I do see might be this: By refusing to kiss the girl, you make the situation seem safer and more innocent, which makes the girl more trusting and so she feels safer and less slurty going with you to the better location. That benefit might more than pay for the loss in hormones from not getting her worked up by kissing her.

[–]joshsway[S] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

[–]donit 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Oh, the makeout approval-whores category...but does it exist? Any evidence on that? I like how you're on the lookout for these things, and I'm sure half of them will turn out to be true....but which ones will have to be determined by scientifically nailing them down...on the bed.

I'll give you that some women 1%-10% will be satisfied with makeout approval, but it so easy to blame that on any of them that don't work out, so I suspect the actual number to be statistically insignificant and closer to 1%, and the rest might be getting lumped in with them just because the true reason is unknown. I suspect this because I've seen such a massive number of reasons for things falling through in the field, that it tells me there are plenty (thousands) of reasons to go around and fill in for all the unknowns.

But I am intrigued...this kiss denial might turn out to have value, and it plays perfectly into Mystery's "get off me" push method. :o)

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