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| 2 | Men are more attracted to women that are interesting, extroverted and passionateGuys will try to avoid a girl who is an introvert because they pick up on the fact that you're avoiding them and assume that it means you dislike them. You don't dislike them, but you do dislike interacting with them because you are afraid. They don't consider your being afraid a possibility, because they feel like they are the ones who should be afraid of you, because they can already tell that you dislike interacting with them. So your fear of them is causing them to fear you. A girl who disli… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/16 04:31 PM |
| 1 | CMV How would you even know IF anyone follows TRP?That is true, but the thought was that even for someone who is broke, they are still spending over 200 times that amount throughout the year, and so $100 isn't really going to make any difference other than occasionally postponing something a few days. So it is only in effect is at certain times in the year where the person is already short. But on average, I've noticed that people with more money are much more tighter with it, and the ones with less seem very quick to spend it, but only when th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 07:22 PM |
| 1 | CMV How would you even know IF anyone follows TRP?It's more like tee-hee I'm carrying a masculine "Women Are [not men]" attitude because I know that's the only way I'm ever going to be able to connect with a woman in a sexual manner. "Sexual" means different in a matching, reciprocally-accommodating manner, and so the only way for him to screw it up is if he tries to connect with her from the same standpoint as she would connect to him, because they can't both occupy the same connect points and accommodate each other in the same manner. It's no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 06:26 PM |
| 1 | CMV How would you even know IF anyone follows TRP?(When I write these long conceptual pieces, I'm not trying to convince the other person of another way of thinking, but to stimulate more ideas from them, as each new concept provides a foundation for making another point, and in either direction they choose. I'm just exploring the subject with the words, riding them like horses to see where they go and what they will discover. A lot of my points are discoveries I am making mid-sentence as I am writing them. So basically, the process of sharing … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 05:44 PM |
| 2 | Strip game gone bad: Failed pre-sex shit test?"Can you dim the lights?" "Yes, dear." (She's thinking What an obedient, unmasculine, orbiting white knight of a man) "How about cleaning up the dishes too?" (Might as well get something out of this if i'm going to be pleasuring a beta, because I sure won't be getting anything out of it. I'm not attracted to betas at all. It was only fun when he WASN'T acting like a beta.) By the time you got around to standing up for yourself, it was too late. Now you've established yourself as a functional bet… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 05/07/16 01:08 PM |
| 3 | Isn't it the men who usually want to give a free pass to female teachers who have sex with students?It's interesting that there were 8 female teachers charged and only 2 male teachers. Especially when the prison population is more than 80-20 the other way around. So, for a group of females to match the male rate in crime, they would need a 4x extenuating factor. And then to get them up to an 80-20 split, they would need another 4x in extenuating factors. So, for these female teachers to get all the way up to the 80-20 ratio, they would need an extenuating factor that pushes them by 16-fold int… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/16 06:09 PM |
| 1 | My husband wants me to color my hair blonde and get breast implants.I don't think it's going to work because that's not going to change his attraction significantly. He'll grow tired of the larger breasts and miss the natural ones. If he isn't attracted to you then either you're a physical mismatch, or perhaps he's been seeing too much of you. Try covering up completely with black, boxy, baggy, bulky clothes for a week, especially jackets that obscure your waist-to-hip ratio and then suddenly wear something risqué once a week. Also focus on nutrition. A loss of … | /r/RedPillWomen | 08/06/16 11:15 AM |
| 1 | Please Stop Saying That Teacher "Had Sex With" Her Student - It's not sex, or an affair, or a scandal. It's rape. It's not about the age. It's about the idea of using the state to make life's decisions for individual people, because individual people can't be trusted to think for themselves. It's about ownership. You can't allow people to make decisions for things they don't own. That's what family court and CPS are for. | /r/MensRights | 04/06/16 03:09 PM |
| 0 | Please Stop Saying That Teacher "Had Sex With" Her Student - It's not sex, or an affair, or a scandal. It's rape. It's not about the age. It's about the idea of using the state to make life's decisions for individual people, because individual people can't be trusted to think for themselves. It's about ownership. You can't make decisions for something you don't own. | /r/MensRights | 04/06/16 03:09 PM |
| 1 | Is cheating an alpha strategy? That is can women actually consider the behavior a part of being an Alpha? Thus not cheating would be beta?Cheating is a wuss strategy. It's basically saying: "I'm too much of a wuss to be myself around this girl, or dictate the frame with her." "I have such a low self-esteem that I feel I have to lie my ass off just to get a girl to have sex with me." "I have to steal it from them under false pretenses, because no woman would ever value me otherwise." It's an "I'm a loser, so I have to lie to people" mentality. It's one thing to set up a "don't ask, don't tell" type of situation, but if you let a gi… | /r/askTRP | 30/04/16 04:24 AM |
| 1 | Can rape really exist in marriage?What does knowing her have to do with it? Rape is about "consent", but "consent" is a slippery word. "Not tonight honey, I have a headache." "Come one baby." "Oh, all right." Is that consent? Obviously, she didn't want to do it, but what if you pressure her into it? Is that rape or consent? Or, maybe she was drunk or asleep. But you might not find out she didn't want you to until AFTERWARD. A lot of times, rape can happen retroactively, so all it takes is for the woman to become unhappy about th… | /r/askTRP | 30/04/16 03:59 AM |
| 1 | Workplace harassment/hazing. What's the best way to handle it?You could tease him about how obsessed he is about you. Or, maybe try to harness that obsession and put him to work, channeling that energy into something more productive. Give him some assignments and check up on him. All he wants is your attention, so just switch it up and offer it to him in ways that are more productive. Ask him how he's coming on whatever he is working on, and get him to express himself within that frame. He just wants to feel like he is getting some type of result, so if yo… | /r/askTRP | 28/04/16 04:37 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women calling men that they dated/slept with assholes is what created the "assholes get the girls" mythBut Still, the guys they would never think of as assholes are also the guys they would never even think of sleeping with. But they will often go back and sleep with one of the assholes. So it proves that there are two categories of men: Ones they are available for, and will think of as assholes, and ones they are not available for, and will not think of as assholes. So the question is, which category of men do you want to be in? The distinction of when they're in a relationship is that at the ti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/16 03:24 PM |
| 1 | The person it seems like I have to become to stop being sexually frustrated ideologically disgusts me.It's very simple: You can't both be on the female side of the relationship, because then it wouldn't be a sexual relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/16 09:54 PM |
| 1 | Had kids taken away after 6 years shared custodyIn a system where one person's accusation or testimony is taken as evidence that is able to be then used against another person, it is impossible for the other person to prove otherwise, because it is impossible to prove that something didn't happen, as there is no sequence to follow or details to present for a scenario that doesn't exist. | /r/MensRights | 21/04/16 03:56 PM |
| 0 | Had kids taken away after 6 years shared custodySounds like she thinks you were trying to undermine her custody and her relationship with the kids, and so that's what she got the protective order to protect the situation from. You weren't, but in a situation where you stand to benefit at another person's loss, they will sometimes blame it on you and assume you must have been doing something to cause it. The best way to approach a situation like that is to act indifferent, like you don't really care which way it goes as long as everyone is hap… | /r/MensRights | 20/04/16 05:46 PM |
| 6 | Girls expecting you to pay their wayYeah, I like how you often get more out of writing than reading. It's like you have a front-row seat at a lecture, and it's the first time you're seeing the words also. I've long struggled with this issue and gotten disgusted when a girl winds up costing a significant amount. The dilemma is that on one hand, it's not fair, but on the other hand, paying is a masculine-control route, and so you can't really get around doing it until after you've established a masculine-feminine relationship with t… | /r/askTRP | 13/04/16 06:25 PM |
| 1 | Buzzfeed unintentionally paints feminists as idiots who shut their brains off the moment facts are brought up (pay gap myth, rights of men)Most people don't judge anything by logic. They check with the people around them and go by consensus. Mob logic. | /r/MensRights | 13/04/16 05:22 PM |
| 2 | Is this an effective dating strategy for "ugly women"?Sounds like you aren't his type. But that's okay, it's not your job to be everyone's type. Your job is to be you, and to find someone who you are their type. How can you tell? Remember that creepy guy who kept eyeing you? That's why he was doing that. Next time, just walk up to him, ask him if he knows any single guys, and then give him your number and ask him to call you if he runs across anyone who is nice. If you want to improve your looks, just focus on nutrition- getting all your meats, veg… | /r/RedPillWomen | 09/04/16 03:41 AM |
| 3 | Do you take inspiration from foreign women/cultures?One source might be old American and European fiction books and stories, including Disney movies and fairy tales, which come from and describe the cultures from which we came. People write off our old femininity as prissy and whimsical, as if it's just a theme -if you're into that sort of thing- but the fact is it's how we got here, and it might be the only way we're able to exist. So rather than just being cute stories and themes, I would see them as more of a template for men and women on how … | /r/RedPillWomen | 02/04/16 10:27 PM |
| 0 | "How tall are you?" "5'8" *laughs* "No you're not" - Regular shit test, how to deal?"How tall are you?" "Well, why don't you come here and find out?" "No, really, how tall are you?" "How bad do you want to know?" "Just tell me." "I want you to show me how badly you want me..to tell you." (take her hands, pull her in close, looking into her eyes.) "Are you going to.." "You're going to find out." | /r/askTRP | 31/03/16 02:07 PM |
| 1 | Help! I have a rich wife(Xpost from twochromosomes) I hope I'm following all the rules. I did read them.You need to forget about sex for now and just focus on re-training her to be a woman. So, when did you lose your masculine-feminine relationship with her? Or was it always "equal"? Do you try to do what you can to please her and try to chase down every request? Do you think being a "yes-dear", compliant, friend-zoned, white knight really what she wants, or do you think she would rather be with a man who will tell her to stfu? Well that depends on which gender she is...maybe she's a special case.… | /r/askTRP | 05/03/16 12:10 AM |
| 1 | Restrictions on "financial abortions"....A lot of great arguments. And I'd like to add that these days, I don't think starving is a issue because food has gotten so cheap, it costs close to nothing. So if we cut off child support, none of the children would starve. They just wouldn't be able to afford premium clothes, private schools, or premium educational and athletic programs. Things that are a "good experience" but unnecessary otherwise. Plus, the father could always choose to help them. They're his kids, so if they fall short, he'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/16 03:29 PM |
| 1 | [FR] Funny thing happened at a bar the other dayYou did something that was beyond attractive: You gave her an assignment. I've been trying to think of little tasks to give girls while you're in a bar. They're like waitresses - carrying out orders is what they live for. Just like an old car- they love to be engaged. | /r/TheRedPill | 19/02/16 04:37 AM |
| 1 | Calling your wife/girlfriend fat, now officially domestic abuse in the UK. Punishable by 5 years in prison.I've come to the conclusion that this is all a result of Democracy. Democracy (all men have an equal say) led to Equality (all men and women have an equal say), which led to Communisim and Socialism (All men and women have an equal result.) That's right - We the People...unknowingly brought ALL that shit onto ourselves!! Karl Marx was just taking Democracy to the next logical step with Equality of result. Polarity is understanding that every individual is different and respecting people for the … | /r/TheRedPill | 19/02/16 02:17 AM |
| 1 | CMV: women cannot be lonely, at least on the level men can beFor every man complaining about not being able to get sex, there's a woman combining about not being able to get a relationship. You would think they would get together and cut a deal. But each often has trouble trusting the other to provide them with what they need. Some of the women will hold back on sex out of fear that the men will leave them after obtaining sex from them. And the men who run into that will often conclude that these women are incapable of having sex, and so they wind up givi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/16 03:51 AM |
| 1 | Making more money than me. A lot.LOL! I was thinking about how a pimp is able to get the proper balance and make it all work, but then I realized that the pimp has a few advantages that allow him to be able to hold the tension of the masculine frame. The pimp provides love, guidence and protection for his "bitches" from the higher ground of his position of pimp. But the modern wife doesn't need protection anymore, and because of the culture of equality, she doesn't think she needs guidance either, and she doesn't automatically … | /r/MarriedRedPill | 12/02/16 04:07 AM |
| 1 | Making more money than me. A lot.Sounds like you're still stuck in equality-land. In a masculine-feminine relationship one of you has to be the male and one of you has to be the female in order to connect the right way. It's not an option. You either connect according to sex, or you don't connect according to sex. And if you don't connect according to sex, that means you've failed at making a sexual connection. Male-to-female is not equal. If you you try to connect equally, it's like trying to plug two plugs into each other equ… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 12/02/16 03:11 AM |
| -2 | Making more money than me. A lot.Okay, this is a hell of a situation to have to turn around, but I've put together a plan to do it. This is going to require some world-class negotiation, and white-knuckle stoicism, but I think you'll be able to pull it off. You have the high road. She is your wife and she must do this for you, and for your family. If she doesn't, she will have failed in every sense of the word and in every sense of being a wife. That's the rope you must keep taught for the rest of your marriage. It's the only p… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 10/02/16 05:29 AM |
| 0 | Making more money than me. A lot.This will be an interesting case, but I think you have a chance at making it work. Who wears the pants now? You can't both be the man. If she is YOUR girl, then act like a pimp and put her to work and send her out to get you your damn money. That's what a pimp does. Own it. Now as far as keeping her attraction, that might be a bit more of a challenge. You've lost it temporarily because you lost your confidence. First, you need to stand next to her, look in the mirror, and decide which one of you… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 10/02/16 02:32 AM |
| 1 | CMV TBP provides no value to anyone. Internet trolling is not valueAnything that stimulates discussion adds value. TBP feels that taking another look at TRP would be a valuable thing to do. The only way they can get people to take another look at it is by criticizing it. That's the reason for the satire- You have to insult something in order to open a discussion about it. And what we've learned with YouTube is that haters are the most valuable type of fan because they will spend more time talking about it than the regular fans. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/16 02:07 AM |
| 2 | Weird Tinder date turned into a nice eveningBy criticizing her and chewing her out, you established a dominant man-to-woman frame. You also, in a roundabout way gave her an assignment and put her to work talking and entertaining you, which gave your relationship with her a bit of tension, body and substance. That's all that was missing, and so by establishing those things, everything fell into place. | /r/seduction | 10/02/16 01:43 AM |
| 1 | Made girl pay for first date drinks... calls me an asshole. Becomes huge topic of discussion.It's not a clear reading because she sounds like she was surprised when you presented her with the bill. Either she had forgotten about it or maybe she thought she would be only paying for one or two drinks. So the sticker shock would have ruined it for her either way. It's one thing to get a girl to invest in you, but this seems more like it came across as a loss. What you should have done is thanked her each time she bought you a drink so each time it would have been a conscious decision. Mayb… | /r/askTRP | 29/01/16 07:22 PM |
| 1 | RP: what advice would you give to a woman who gets taken for granted?Yes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/16 04:07 PM |
| 1 | RP: what advice would you give to a woman who gets taken for granted?All those examples involve changing their desire, not pressuring them to do it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/16 05:02 PM |
| 3 | RP: what advice would you give to a woman who gets taken for granted?Find someone with a higher smv. That's what this is all about. You've decided that he can no longer offer you a successful, secure outlook for your life. You're just focusing on feeling unhappy about those things because that's your way of interpreting the loss of outlook. And so having him spend a little more time with you, remembering anniversaries and doing the dishes is not going to fix that. Either he needs to step up his viability for the two of you as a family, or you need to find someone… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/16 11:56 PM |
| 6 | RP: what advice would you give to a woman who gets taken for granted?No, I'd say you sound like a communication expert. Every point you made carries a lot of weight and wisdom behind it. As you said, the only types of behaviors that will last are ones that are done out of the desire to do them, not out of obligation or pressure. Coordinating your responses to match someone's behavior is The only way you can change that behavior. People choose their own behavior based on the results they get. That's what they're for. So if you change those results, they'll change … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/16 11:41 PM |
| 2 | Go Full PatriarchLet's take it even farther and destroy the oxymoronic idea of gender equality. You either respect the way someone is and treat them accordingly, or you disregard the way they are and try to force them to be equal to something else. You either treat someone with respect and regard to their alignment, or you treat them in a way that disregards their alignment. So whether people are male, female, angry, tired, hungry or thirsty, in order to force and arbitrary equality upon them, you would need to … | /r/TheRedPill | 20/01/16 09:34 PM |
| 1 | what does equal mean to you?You're using one term to refer to equal in one aspect, and the other term to refer to equal overall. But why does equitable get chosen for the latter? Even if equitable means "like equal" or "similar to equal", it still seems like it could apply just as easily to either scenario. Why wouldn't fair treatment be equal, and vice-versa? If it's fair, then it must be because it is equal. That's the only way it would be fair. And if it's equal then it must be fair. Again, that's the only way it would … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/16 04:43 AM |
| 1 | what does equal mean to you?The world I live in is the opposite of the one you described. I have noticed I have much more in common with the males of some of the most distantly-related races to my own than I have with my own sisters. The oft-repeated conventional claim you brought up is basically just a cultural/political agenda-based attempt to ignore the obvious differences of the sexes, and is based on agenda-based "studies". But that's just my opinion and I welcome any discussion that tries to make a logical claim base… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/16 02:29 AM |
| 1 | what does equal mean to you?How are they different? Equal, Equate, Equity. It's all the same. An equitable outcome means it's the same as the "other" outcome, or it's the same as the notion of what it should be. It's just different ways of saying "the same" and "equal". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/16 01:42 AM |
| 1 | what does equal mean to you?Well, are we talking about coerced equality, or coerced inequality? I don't think either one should be coerced. But I don't think boys and girls should be told that they are the same either, because that wouldn't be respecting their differences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/16 01:20 AM |
| 1 | what does equal mean to you?But even with equality of opportunity, I think you're still forcing the outcome. It doesn't matter whether they take the route or not, it's the same route, and the same situation whether they take it or not. So you're still jamming them into the same situation, and through the same hole. By making it "opportunity" you're just "potentially" jamming them into that hole, without regard to how or whether they will fit. So you're still not respecting their alignment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/16 12:39 AM |
| 1 | Do you think there is a prevailing belief among people that the average guy is lucky to be with an average girl?I think the perceived difference in dating value between men and women has more to do with which one has to make the approach, rather than the numbers of potential suitors for each. We can't really compare a girl who turns down three or four guys to a guy who doesn't approach any girls. The fact that a girl generally has to wait for a guy to approach, while one guy can hypothetically approach all of the girls, means there's no way for us to make a comparison. And since more guys get multiple gir… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/16 12:32 AM |
| 1 | Do you think there is a prevailing belief among people that the average guy is lucky to be with an average girl?That depends on how you define "be with". If you're referring to sex, then the average guy probably would be considered lucky to be with the average girl. But if you're referring to relationships, then the average girl would probably be considered lucky to be with the average guy. In the latter category, girls seem to have a tougher time because they generally have to wait for a guy to come along and provide them with a relationship. So they wait...and they wait...and they wait. But since a larg… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/16 12:18 AM |
| 1 | Idea: find an accredited evolutionary physiologist and have him do an AMA hereRespected. Unbiassed. (Pick one) Academia exists in its own reality, strictly contained within the boundaries of its footnotes and peer reviews. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/16 11:58 PM |
| 1 | what does equal mean to you?"Equality" is equal-opportunity ignorance of the attributes of either gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/16 11:23 PM |
| 1 | what does equal mean to you?I think she's saying she relies on the decisions of men more than the decisions of women, and so that means she doesn't consider men and women equal in that regard. Of course, women are equally important, but equality is comparing apples to oranges, and then trying to jam them into the same box as if they're the same thing. So equality disrespects the alignment of both genders. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/16 11:19 PM |
| 1 | what does equal mean to you?Gender equality means neither gender's alignment is respected. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/16 11:08 PM |
| 1 | what does equal mean to you?I don't think we can separate equality from equity. It's the same thing. Fairness of a situation means you're trying to force different people to relate to the same situation equally. That's forcing different blocks into the same hole, which means you're not respecting the shape of the blocks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/16 11:06 PM |
| 1 | what does equal mean to you?"Equal opportunity" means equal relating to a situation. But if men and women are different, then they can't relate to the same situation equally. So trying to force such an equality doesn't make any sense. There's no reason to try to jam different objects, or different genders into the same mold. That's just ignoring (not respecting) their differences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/16 10:59 PM |
| 1 | what does equal mean to you?do you think there should be a difference how men and women are punished for the same crime? say armed robbery Yes. Most stories of female criminals seem to be situations where they were reactively put up to it by a man. If a man asks his wife to rob a bank, and she does, she's just following her natural tendency to do what her husband asks of her. In cases like that, I would just arrest the man and let the woman go. The woman is just executing commands and so she's no more guilty than a printer… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/16 10:49 PM |
| 1 | Why do we say 'Women should be equal to men' and not 'Men should be equal to women' ?It's not about trying to fit into society, it's about trying to fit into your own instinctual tendencies, and being congruent with yourself. "Don't want to be treated like a child." I don't think being first mate is the same as being treated like a child. The women are children theme is just to get men to stop thinking of women as equals so they can establish a masculine-feminine relationship with them. It's like Batman and Robin. Batman doesn't treat Robin like a child; he has a lot of respect … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/16 03:06 PM |
| 1 | "Is this a shit test? How do I deal with it?"That's a fail. You fucked up somewhere, so you just need to figure out where. And from your description, it sounds like you're repeating the same mistake with each girl. This is usually a gender issue: you probably didn't clearly establish which one of you is the stoic male of the relationship, and which one of you is the accommodating female. So when the situation gets close to sex, the girl balks because she doesn't want to accidentally mate with some dude she isn't sure is a man who can handl… | /r/askTRP | 19/01/16 01:50 AM |
| 1 | Why do we say 'Women should be equal to men' and not 'Men should be equal to women' ?It's not about trying to control women; I'm just trying to figure out what is in their best interest, since that is what is in both of our best interests. We are all men, and we are all women since we all carry both genders inside us. We come from both and we depend on both to survive, and to continue our existence. For all of our great-grandmothers, and everyone before them, vulnerability was a significant aspect of life. It is part of femininity and one of the foundations of a masculine-femini… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/16 01:47 AM |
| 1 | How many of you men have gotten away with being shamelessly sexual?The problem was you were rushing things before she had a chance to develop an appetite for it. It's like jamming a hotdog in her face and saying "wanna hotdog?" She might ordinarily like hotdogs, but when one is being pushed on her, she's going to shy away from it. Girls take a lot longer to decide if they're attracted to you, whereas you're able to tell just from seeing her photo. So you have this huge head start on her. Think of her as a blind person, and so you have to find a way to kill some… | /r/askTRP | 15/01/16 09:52 PM |
| 1 | What do you do to qualify women on dates?That's a good one: "So, what does a beautician do? How do you do that?....." And if she gets short with you or starts wondering why you're asking dumb questions, just say "Sorry, I'm just messing with you. Don't get so serious. Relax yourself and have some fun". (mischievous grin) | /r/askTRP | 15/01/16 07:53 PM |
| 2 | NihilismYou need to stop protecting yourself, and stop trying to control everything. If you limit yourself to only ever being at the cause, then you're basically cutting yourself off from any effect- good or bad. | /r/askTRP | 15/01/16 07:30 PM |
| 1 | Why do we say 'Women should be equal to men' and not 'Men should be equal to women' ?Those are all excellent points and are things that must be addressed. By becoming like a man, and filling all the masculine voids in your life that they would normally be filling, you're basically eliminating the ways they're able to bond with you. It's like filling in all the voids and crevices on your side of the mountain, and not leaving any footholds for anyone to climb into your life. If a woman could get rid of her sense of equality, empowerment, and independence, then it would be perfectl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/16 02:13 AM |
| 2 | What evidence do we have to suggest that female sexuality is in practice narcissistic?That is surprisingly accurate. Another one of a woman's roles is cheerleader which involves driving and strengthening the man's confidence and spirit, giving him the energy to move forward. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/16 09:51 PM |
| 1 | Never tell a girl you're attracted to herThe conscious part of their minds can't handle the thought of sex .....with someone when they haven't yet decided whether or not they're attracted to them. Men decide right away if they are attracted to a woman, while women are sort of like blind people who need to feel around and learn more about the person before they're able to decide whether or not they're attracted to them. So you have to lead her around slowly like a blind person, and give her time to assess and get to know your personalit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/16 06:35 AM |
| 1 | Intimidation can lead to attraction?Yes, I think you just discovered an aspect of how their attraction chemistry works. Try playing around with it and see if you can "intimidate" another girl the same way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/16 05:55 AM |
| 1 | If Many People's view on Redpill is based on a Caricature, explain Redpillers like this?You were raised to think of yourself as a disenfranchised man, as if being a woman is just a whimsical, worthless cultural thing you read about in storybooks. And so just the thought of being a feminine woman makes you cringe, because you're still judging it against your standard for what you think a respectable person should be: a masculine male. You've basically been brainwashed out of your own gender...and therefore possibly, out of existence. Remember, humans only exist through generations i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/16 05:36 AM |
| 2 | Why do we say 'Women should be equal to men' and not 'Men should be equal to women' ?It's saying being equal to a man is important, while being equal to a woman is more of an optional, whimsical, cultural thing you read about in old storybooks. Something you can opt into if you're the type of person who happens to be into that sort of thing. It's basically implying that the female gender is completely unnecessary, and that women are a persecuted, marginalized race, and therefore people who are unfortunate enough to be born like that should be given the opportunity to be equal to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/16 04:43 AM |
| 1 | What evidence do we have to suggest that female sexuality is in practice narcissistic?I've been searching for the ideal terms to describe this phenomenon. So far, I have: stoic-accommodating, rigid-pliable, act-react, dominate-submit, lead-follow, control-comply, conduct-connect, gather-join, lead-follow, adopt-adapt, engage-engaged...and now probe-respond. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/16 04:10 AM |
| 1 | Poster about rape from my local constabulary.Whether a girl says yes or no during sex doesn't matter. All that matters is how she feels about it the next day, and how the people around her her feel about it. So if her roommate, best friend or mom throws a shit fit about it the next day, it really doesn't matter what the girl said to you, or how willing she seemed. She can't control the forces of society around her, which will come rushing past her with the momentum of a freight train. So it's just as important to look out for the freight t… | /r/MensRights | 06/01/16 01:42 AM |
| -1 | Poster about rape from my local constabulary.Consent is determined by how the girl, her friends, and her family feel about it the next day. | /r/MensRights | 05/01/16 12:31 AM |
| 1 | Meeting up with the ex (potentially)Hey, Is this my hyper-creative, idea-building friend? I figured out that there was something I was doing- a huge mistake that I was making that was sabotaging the process, and blocking the creative flow. And it is something that would sabotage any situation where you're trying to work together with someone on a project and taking turns building on each-other's ideas, or taking turns moving the ball forward and building on each-other's steps. I wrote comment about it, discussing how if you fail t… | /r/askTRP | 01/01/16 05:51 PM |
| 1 | Explain yes means yesYes means yes means you need to make sure you get continual consent from the girl, not just before or during the act of sex. But since you really can't predict how she's going to feel about you, or how she's going to feel about what you did to her- the day after, you really have no control over whether or not she'll continue to give her consent. Her friends roommates or family might put a lot of pressure on her, causing her to regret it, and even possibly to retroactively withdraw her consent. S… | /r/askTRP | 31/12/15 06:35 PM |
| 3 | As a response to kino escalation, the girl went with this shit test: "So what are you trying to get at here?"I would flip the shit test back on her: "I'm just checking to see how you respond to my touch, to see if you're able to connect with me." Make it a test for her to pass or fail as a part of her progress toward winning your emotions, your love, warmth, attention and affection. She's Mario, and those are all the coins she's bouncing around trying to get. | /r/askTRP | 31/12/15 05:57 PM |
| 1 | Doing threesomes and using my LTR as a wingwomanIf she's keying off you, it's like she's playing an instrument in a symphony, and waiting for you, the conductor, to give her a signal to start. Her interest reflects yours. She thinks it's exciting because you think it's exciting. It's like if she sees you enjoying something and wants some of it too. Some girls want to experience the pleasure with you and be a part of it. | /r/askTRP | 31/12/15 04:47 PM |
| 1 | Girl behaviour question : pre & post date + what to doStop apologizing, stop trying to please her so much, stop orbiting her and being so giving and easy to get along with, and stop letting her set the rhythm of every interaction. She wants a man not a pet beta-orbiter dancing apology monkey. As you've seen, there are no smv points awarded for pleasing a girl or giving her an orgasm. The only way you can please her is by you being the stoic tree and she being the flexible, accomondating squirrel who likes to nest in it. You need to go silent for a … | /r/askTRP | 31/12/15 03:22 PM |
| 2 | Meeting up with the ex (potentially)The moth always circles back to the flame... | /r/askTRP | 31/12/15 08:32 AM |
| 2 | Doing threesomes and using my LTR as a wingwomanYeah, it sounds like she wants to do it through you (possibly only because you want to). Seems like she might be keying off you. I read a story about another guy on 2x chrom who had met a group of three girls in a bar, and they followed him home, and this is a story of how he screwed it up. I guess he was overwhelmed by them all, and so he sat back and let them take over. Big mistake. That made him come across as bored and uninterested, as if he was just going along with their wishes. They just … | /r/askTRP | 31/12/15 03:04 AM |
| 4 | Doing threesomes and using my LTR as a wingwomanCongrats on your new situation, which means you've already achieved the hardest part. So, who first suggested it, you or her? Or was it a comfort/shit test that you turned into a suggestion of a threesome? And what role do you think she is imagining herself in? When she's with you, she probably mostly plays the part of submissive feminine female to your dominant masculine male. (When I talk about establishing a dominant-submissive connection with the girl, I'm just referring to your relative pos… | /r/askTRP | 30/12/15 09:14 PM |
| 5 | Girls love being approachedWhen a girl says "You're so sweet", she's being a little distant and condescending, which means you might have accidentally pushed her up onto a pedestal with a compliment, implying she is above you and away from you. When you say the phrase "You are ______-" it's treating the girl like a far away object, effectively pushing her away from you. Guys with a low self-image will usually compliment the girl as an act of honoring her and showing respect and deference, as part of an effort to seek rapp… | /r/seduction | 30/12/15 05:05 PM |
| 2 | Every superhero is a white knightIt depends on WHY you saved her. If you saved her hoping it would make her like you and become attracted to you, then it won't because that's a wuss approach. If you saved her because you don't like to have disorder around you and you like to take control of people and situations, then she might become attracted. Not because you saved her but because you took control of her and the situation. Female attraction is a form of admiration, and so it requires having the girl look up to you. Being resp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/15 02:54 PM |
| 3 | Red pill theory: When a male tattooist gives a female a tattoo, he is marking her as his territory permanently.Chill out, bro. You're just concerned about it because of a story last year of a tattoo guy who stole a guy's girlfriend's affections. But that happened because he shut the guy down in front of his girlfriend and made him look like a beta-chump. Not because he gave her a tattoo. The lesson there was- never start an argument with someone in front of your girl that you don't plan to win and come out on top. Especially someone who is going to be alone with her. Because if you don't come out on top,… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 23/12/15 04:21 PM |
| 3 | Red pill theory: When a male tattooist gives a female a tattoo, he is marking her as his territory permanently.Or is he more like a tool? If the wife uses a vending machine to select and apply a tattoo, then she is just using a tool on herself. She is is the one who is causing it to be done. So it's just an execution of her command. His work will be measured by how closely he adheres to her design that she picked out. So none of it really represents his choices. She did that to herself. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 22/12/15 10:19 PM |
| -3 | Red pill theory: When a male tattooist gives a female a tattoo, he is marking her as his territory permanently.Almost got a point. But, the tattoo artist isn't choosing the tattoo. He is doing what he is told. A wife getting a tattoo is a stoic move in regard to her husband, but the tattoo artist is on the compliant side of the interaction. But then to your point during the act itself, the tattoo artist is being stoic and the wife is being compliant. So in that regard, it's very similar to allowing him to fuck her. She might even experience some level of an emotional, man-to-woman stoicgasm from it. So t… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 22/12/15 09:30 PM |
| 2 | How to organize a threesome?The problem is you can't really do it that way. Each girl is used to having 100% of your attention, so for each of them, what you're suggesting is a relationship/emotional demotion. Think about how a demotion would feel at work. What would that do to your morale? People don't like to go backward- their minds just don't work that way, and so they won't be able to accept it. If you try to ram it through, they'll just be miserable. The only way you're going to be able to set up a successful situati… | /r/seduction | 21/12/15 06:10 PM |
| 1 | I am getting confusedDoes scientific stuff like that tend to trigger images and ideas? Or do you just feel too run down from the daily grind to be able to allow your imagination to run freely like that? I know a lot of guys tend to slowly drift into that realm without realizing it. | /r/askTRP | 20/12/15 05:03 PM |
| 1 | I am getting confusedThat is exactly right. But the question is why? Why do you have to tell a girl you want to hang out with her, rather than just asking her if she wants to hang out? (I'm going to just let my thoughts run and invite any appends or corrections that come to mind.) The problem with asking her is it would flip the gender polarity of who is the masculine advancer and who is the feminine advancee. If you ask her if she wants to hang out, you're asking her to decide whether she wants to advance toward yo… | /r/askTRP | 19/12/15 08:25 PM |
| 1 | If relationships are supposed to be equal, why are there so many Average Frustrated Chumps?And I would say the same. We just use different definitions. One involves discovery and logic, and the other involves indoctrination and faithful adherence to the canonized flow of information within its own system. They each have different goals: One seeks to make discoveries while the other is more of a conservationist, focusing instead on protecting and preserving what they already have, and only expanding conservatively, and in a manner that is fully congruent with what has previously been c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/15 11:01 PM |
| 1 | If relationships are supposed to be equal, why are there so many Average Frustrated Chumps?When you ignore the facts and just focus on what you think groups of people think, all you're projecting is cultural conformity, consensus and dogma. That's a different world altogether than the physical one you actually live in. But if you're happy in that world and studying to be a high priest of it, then have at it. But just understand that your little canonized world there is self-contained in its own sphere, with its own circular logic. Everything seems to make sense in that little world, a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/15 05:25 PM |
| 1 | [30M] I'm sick of women being so insulting and toxic in the dating game and that my only option is to accept it and move on. It's making me hate women.Why not make a game out of it? Treat their bad behavior like "Whack-A-Mole". Maybe that's their point- to see if you're willing to put up with it. | /r/seduction | 18/12/15 05:17 PM |
| 2 | If relationships are supposed to be equal, why are there so many Average Frustrated Chumps?So you're saying I haven't provided any dogmatic citations from one of the accredited bureaus of indoctrination? It's a simple law of physics and chemistry. If you change the input, you change the output. If you change the chemicals going in, you change the reaction. If you change anything in motion, you change the result, the destination. It's a sweeping law and there are no exceptions. Your empirical evidence is that you can't name any exceptions, or even imagine any. And you know it's true be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/15 10:28 PM |
| 1 | If relationships are supposed to be equal, why are there so many Average Frustrated Chumps?You can't change a recipe without changing the outcome. That is a fact. There are no exceptions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/15 06:44 PM |
| 1 | How should women react when a man likes her, but she doesn't like him?His survival depends on his sexuality, sexual attractiveness, and sexual interaction. So, you're not just rejecting his whimsical sexual desires- like not giving him a bite of a cookie, you're rejecting his survival. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/15 06:42 PM |
| 1 | How should women react when a man likes her, but she doesn't like him?Yes it is dehumanizing. But no, his "humanization" and survival are not your responsibility. Especially, if his comes at your expense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/15 02:18 PM |
| 1 | If relationships are supposed to be equal, why are there so many Average Frustrated Chumps?Well. that's how we got here. That's the human formula. You can't change the recipe without changing the outcome. That's a law of chemistry as well as physics. So if you change the formula, you're going to get a different result. Different than what was ironed out over millions of years and thousands of generations as being ideal and necessary for survival. So if it produces a different result, it will be a different result than what was already worked out as the way to survive. "The world is di… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/15 02:10 PM |
| 7 | TRP doesn't give men what they want. It just convinces them that they don't want it.A woman's job is to judge men, not care about them. The survival of you and your family comes first, and compassion for others comes second. So if that man is your boyfriend, it is more important for you to judge his potential to help your family's survival than to love him unconditionally or have compassion for him. For if he is weak, having compassion for him will bring that weakness upon yourself and to own your family's survival. Any woman who ever made that mistake- didn't survive to carry … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/15 01:36 PM |
| 1 | TRP doesn't give men what they want. It just convinces them that they don't want it.Women -appear- to benefit from the dissolution of gender roles because we are thinking of them as individuals, as if they were just another type of men. But they're not men. They are not the masculine half of the human equation. They are the equally-essential feminine-supportive half of the human family equation. What happens when you pull that support beam away? The loss is shared equally between them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/15 12:53 PM |
| 1 | I Was Falsely Accused Of Rape Two Weeks Ago (And Thanks To TRP I Know Why)I wonder how it went from making out to rape? I guess the roommate woke her up and quizzed her in her drunken state, and allowed her hamster to "interpret" the slurred responses as confirming her fears. So OP is a victim of suspicion. If you leave a scene that could be interpreted in a bad way, and someone there has a default expectation, they might project that expectation onto the drunk girl. So I guess the lesson is to not get involved in a situation with a drunk girl that could be interprete… | /r/TheRedPill | 09/12/15 07:55 PM |
| 1 | You Got a Stranger Pregnant: A Guide.I wonder if there an option of just giving in? What do you think would happen if the guy just says "cool" and then attempts to work out child support with the mother based on the average for their state? I guess the mom isn't going to want to give away joint custody, so the only "get along" option would be to ask to visit often and offer to babysit, which would probably result in something like a 1-5 custody ratio. Still, the value of getting along and not experiencing an ongoing animosity might… | /r/TheRedPill | 07/12/15 03:22 PM |
| 19 | You Got a Stranger Pregnant: A Guide.This sounds like a war. I'm so sorry you had to go through all of that, just for doing something that is natural. So, what is causing it to be this way? What is causing a formally joyous event to be one of misery? Is it the child support? Would eliminating child support eliminate most of the fighting? Is it that parental rights are unclear? If we were to enact a law that says each parent gets 50% custody no matter what, then there wouldn't be anything to argue about. Right now, it seems like it'… | /r/TheRedPill | 07/12/15 03:14 PM |
| 1 | I passed this hilarious of all shit tests last night, god bless TRP (FR)Yeah, that's a good one- too heavy in the wrong direction. | /r/TheRedPill | 05/12/15 02:58 PM |
| 1 | I passed this hilarious of all shit tests last night, god bless TRP (FR)How is she a slut? Seems like she just wants a relationship. Do you feel she shouldn't have slept with him? Then he might have lost interest and written her off as having too many hangups. A lot of girls aren't emotionally capable of having sex, and so when you start investing a lot of time and emotion into one and then realize she might never be ready to move forward, you really have to cut your losses and move on. I doubt she'll sleep with the other guy. Remember he was complaining about her b… | /r/TheRedPill | 05/12/15 02:37 PM |
| 1 | I passed this hilarious of all shit tests last night, god bless TRP (FR)It seems like shit tests and comfort tests are closely related, as some of these answers would work well for both. And I've seen a lot of situations where the girl was disguising a shit test as a comfort test, just to see if you're willing to dance like a monkey and "reassure" her like the good little chump that you are. Everything is a test, it's just what girls do. So they want to know both things: that you would protect her, and that you won't put up with any attempt at manipulation. You'll p… | /r/TheRedPill | 04/12/15 10:56 PM |
| 25 | I passed this hilarious of all shit tests last night, god bless TRP (FR)"You're talking again...shhhh" “you need to get a grip.” "I like spending time with you, and that's all that matters." "Sometimes women just want to talk, so just let them talk." These are great answers to shit tests. I wonder if there are only around 30-40 answers necessary to answer all the shit tests girls will ever throw at you in life. So you could just memorize the 40 answers and then just rattle them off without even thinking. Let's see if we can think of some more: "Knock it off" "You're… | /r/TheRedPill | 04/12/15 04:54 PM |
| 11 | I passed this hilarious of all shit tests last night, god bless TRP (FR)I don't see anything wrong with the text you found on her phone. Before that day, she didn't know whether or not things were going to work out with you. So at that point, she was still single and looking for a relationship. Now, the interesting thing is what is she going to do about the other guy? He's going to want answers, and she's not going to want to give them for fear of burning that bridge in case things don't work out with you. It will be interesting to see if she still wants to fuck him… | /r/TheRedPill | 04/12/15 04:32 PM |
| 1 | TRP's reasoning about why women shouldn't vote is not rationalSo, I realize my suggestions may seem a little out there, and I know you still have reservations about TRP regarding treating someone with honor and fairness as well as certain aspects of guys using "dread game" to accentuate their popularity and social proof, and so those aspects of it still prevent you from seeing it in an overall positive light. But on the positive side, I was wondering if some of the points I've been raising on the gender alignment aspects of how men and women connect with e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/15 06:18 PM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP is the best strategy for getting laid fastBut misogyny is hate OR contempt, so I think it's supposed to be a catch all word to cover both, as well as seemingly hateful contempt. If we are against women being equal to men, then we would dislike women who are trying to be like men, because we want them to be like women. We want them to be equal to women. So you could say we hate the behavior of feminism. But its that behavior of women, not women themselves. So maybe we're feminisogynists. The claim is that TRP behavior is misogynistic bec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/15 03:30 PM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP is the best strategy for getting laid fastI don't think you can separate TRP from misogyny. Treating a woman as a female fulfills the contempt part of the definition, because you're treating her (on a man scale) as if she is less valuable than a man or beneath you. And it fulfills the "prejudice" part too for the same reason. The problem is she is a woman not a man, and so it doesn't make any sense to relate her in any way to a man, or on a man scale. For example, if you were to treat a man as a female in any way, that would be very dis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/15 11:34 PM |
| 1 | TRP's reasoning about why women shouldn't vote is not rationalI don't know if you saw my final edit, as your response was nearly simultaneous. Although for you, that's usually par for the course. How do you do it- Do you have a instant notification service like alien blue? Or maybe you type and post so fast that it basically turns reddit into an instant notification system. That would be a fun superpower to have. Voting might be disrupting the masculine-feminine relationship, making it much harder for women to feel comfortable in the female side of a relat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/15 03:56 PM |
| 1 | TRP's reasoning about why women shouldn't vote is not rationalThere are still a large minority portion of men and women who are successfully bonding in the masculine-feminine manner, and living happy lives despite the anti-sexist/anti-sexual culture. So somehow, they find a way to do it. I think perhaps 10% of women don't require the man assume the masculine role, and an even larger portion of the men don't require the woman to assume the feminine role, so that would give us at least 10% of both populations who are just happy to be together. The 90% figure… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/15 03:17 PM |
| 1 | TRP's reasoning about why women shouldn't vote is not rationalI know, I'm just talking theoretically, trying to sort out the situation and work it out on paper. The big question is can women return to being feminine while still being equal and equally powerful? People were talking about how TRP would be so much better if they could do it without all the "misogyny". Then I realized- what if that turns out to be the active ingredient? What if the TRP "sexual strategy" (connection strategy) doesn't work without that? What if that is the only way men can conne… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/15 01:44 AM |
| 1 | TRP's reasoning about why women shouldn't vote is not rationalIt's not that women aren't smart enough to vote, it's that giving them that power gave them an equal voice, which lead to a sense of equality to men, and having a sense of equality to men disrupted their feminine position in their sexual relationship with men. Equal is a relative standpoint, attitude and point of view, and so it means no longer feminine relative to the masculine standpoint. And so now it seems women are no longer able to feel comfortable occupying the feminine side of the mascul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/15 05:54 PM |
| 2 | CMV: TRP is the best strategy for getting laid fastWhat if it turns out misogyny IS the active ingredient? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/15 04:55 PM |
| 1 | What's so good about TRP sidebar?Sorry, I was still typing and editing so I don't think you saw the final version. I think individuals should be allowed to do whatever they want, but women are the feminine half, like the legs of the human race that our whole lives are balanced upon. So if they step away from their feminine post, we will topple over. It's like deciding not to be human. But, I think that is everyone's right. It's a shame that I think it is our culture that is making people feel like that. Before 1900, women were … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/15 09:51 PM |
| 1 | What's so good about TRP sidebar?A woman is the feminine side of our species, the feminine half of a couple. Each couple has a masculine half and a feminine half. So we're all only half-couples. We're only half-persons. Neither of us is fully human on our own, because neither of us can survive on our own. We don't exist on our own. Feminists think that being a man is much more fun and useful, and that being a woman is completely worthless and so they fight for everyone to have the right to be a man. And so it seems that Feminis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/15 09:06 PM |
| 1 | What's so good about TRP sidebar?Feminists have forgotten how important the role of a woman is. They think being a woman is an endearing. whimsical thing out of storybooks...if you're into that sort of thing. But it's not an option. If you don't fulfill the feminine role, then we don't exist. Being feminine is something that has been worked out over millions of years of fine-tuning through evolution, and so it is a requirement to be able to get married or stay married, or be able to build a family that is big enough to survive … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/15 06:18 PM |
| 1 | What's so good about TRP sidebar?TRP is about sexual alignment. The sidebar uses sometimes-funny examples in order to help men re-align themselves as masculine after having had it completely trained out of them by 20th century equality/asexuality (every step toward equality is a step away from sexuality). So the sidebar doesn't need to be correct. It just needs to re-align their way of thinking about women in order to make it more sexual and undo the damage that the asexual indoctrination they were raised with has caused. That … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/15 06:08 PM |
| 1 | What are the good or positive effects of female sexual liberation?Population control. By disrupting people's sexual identity and roles, we've eliminated the main product of those roles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/15 05:40 PM |
| 1 | Does TRP truly use "science" to paint women as inferior?Women being inferior to men doesn't mean women are bad. Women are equally important as men. It's just how women and men connect as a couple. We're all half-couples. Its like anterior and posterior. Men are the superior half and women are the inferior half. But since they are both HALVES of a couple they are both EQUALLY important. The superior-inferior thing is just about how they CONNECT with each other. What RedPillers and Feminists don't realize is that women are PERFECT and they are EXTREMEL… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/15 06:46 AM |
| 1 | Are women the 'gatekeepers' of sex, and can have sex whenever they want?It's not that women don't want sex as much. It's that they're not attracted to physical looks the same way you are. They view your looks as more of a utility- a useful piece of the puzzle like having nice tires on your car. Having good tires is necessary to get you from point A to point B, just like being ugly or having flat tires isn't going to get you anywhere. But you can't just show women your good looks or nice tires and expect them to jump for joy, or even be attracted. They'll be like "Th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/15 06:24 PM |
| 1 | Slow BuildI don't think dread game is going to work in this situation. It's just going to cause her to hold back even more. The problem is she doesn't want anything from you, so there's nothing for her to work toward or try to "earn". You've been giving her continual quality attention for free, instead of getting her to earn it. You need to throttle it down, and time it to be strong when she does something good or moves in the right direction, and then becomes weak when she moves in the wrong direction. S… | /r/askTRP | 05/11/15 10:53 PM |
| 1 | How do you not get depressed when thinking about the societal collapse?The point is don't fall into the feminism/equality trap. Don't live as a genderless person and don't raise your kids as genderless, or within that toxic culture. Men and women will survive. "Persons" will thin themselves out and their culture will die out with them. We were men and women before all this nonsense, and we will be men and women afterward. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/15 04:56 AM |
| 1 | Oscar PistoriusBeing a world class athlete means he had world-class testerone levels and world-class aggression. Combine that with the mental flow of the "bullet in the chamber...just do it" slogan and the efficiency of a loaded gun and you have a dangerous mix that is ready to go off at any minute. Then add the lack of mental clarity by being half-asleep and all the ingredients suddenly line up perfectly. This is why you should never sleep with a loaded gun next to you. The gun will carry out your first impul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/15 08:11 PM |
| 1 | Oscar PistoriusWords are infinitely powerful. Here's a clear case where it wouldn't have happened without the words. So, his wife was literally killed by a pattern of words. It's like causing a stack of dominoes to fall in that direction. Sure they might have been leaning that way, but it's always the last straw that gets the credit. Careful what you say to people because the combination of words you use can wind up being the last straw for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/15 07:26 PM |
| 1 | Oscar PistoriusHe is guilty of testosterone-fueled reckless endangerment. This was a shoot first, ask questions later type of situation. But since it was his own wife, he's the one who had the most to lose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/15 07:23 PM |
| 3 | Oscar PistoriusThat was a case of temporary insanity. He had just recently finished a NIKE ad campaign where the slogan was "I am the bullet in the chamber...just do it". So he heard a noise one night (his wife) and decided to "just do it." He thought she was behind him hiding behind the bed, but she turned out to be the "intruder" that he could hear rustling around in the bathroom with the door closed. Most people would shout "who is that in the bathroom? What are you doing?" Oscar just followed the NIKE slog… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/15 05:42 AM |
| 1 | Does BP have any advice/suggestions on how to succeed with women?None of those posts talk about how to treat a women. Since that's where redpill and bluepill differ, that's where you would need to provide a replacement strategy. Redpill says treat a woman like a woman. Bluepill says treat a woman like an equal, as in equal to how you would want to be treated, which would have to mean: Equal to a man. That's where the snag comes in. You can't do both. It's one or the other. You either treat her according to HER gender, or treat her according to YOUR gender. If… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/15 10:09 PM |
| 1 | "Nice" isn't a handicap to finding a relationship. But a lack of other good qualities is.You're right: They don't necessarily TRY to establish a masculine edge over you. But it happens nonetheless. Otherwise they wouldn't establish themselves as an alpha or a leader to anyone. Sometimes a leader will just naturally take control, such as: "Here, let me get that for you." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/15 08:36 PM |
| 1 | "Nice" isn't a handicap to finding a relationship. But a lack of other good qualities is.That is all true, but by itself, without any other context, holding the door loses SMV slightly because there's an absence of ANY masculine edge. If a man is supposed to carry a masculine edge, and doesn't, even for a split second, he will be assessed with having lower masculinity because of the absense. If you visit an animal shelter, and you're used to seeing all the dogs jumping and running around, and then you pass by one that is standing still, you're subconsciously going to think of him as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/15 07:28 PM |
| 1 | "Nice" isn't a handicap to finding a relationship. But a lack of other good qualities is.So you're saying you need to get closer in order to feel closer. That's a really powerful frame. Holding the door for a girl, your frame is: I'm not trying to hit on you or pick you up. I'm not trying to chat or make small talk. I just want to get closer to you. (Opening the door) "Here ya go, come on through". "That's it, you got it". "Hey, where are you headed? Let's walk together." Everything gets funneled through the frame of wanting to get closer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/15 07:05 PM |
| 1 | "Nice" isn't a handicap to finding a relationship. But a lack of other good qualities is.If he invades your personal space, he's either going to wind up with an angry wombat...or a star-struck one 8) So why not roll the dice and go for it, and try to go for some type of emotion? If he just smiles politely and makes small talk, all that's going to get him is an apathetic wombat. The issue you're referring to is A: if you're not attracted to him it becomes annoying and creepy. But nothing ventured nothing gained. Or B: You are attracted but it's too much, too soon. This is sort of an … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/15 05:29 PM |
| 1 | "Nice" isn't a handicap to finding a relationship. But a lack of other good qualities is.not respecting her personal space Interesting choice of words. Were you thinking in terms of what not to do, ie: don't sit there nervously respecting her personal space, or were you thinking of "not respecting her personal space" as an intentional activity? As in: I'm doing this just to show you I can, because I'm someone who feels comfortable doing it. I just touched your cheek, what are you going to do about it? That would be an interesting angle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/15 05:17 PM |
| 1 | "Nice" isn't a handicap to finding a relationship. But a lack of other good qualities is.The example of opening a door for a woman, even if she is carrying a lot of packages, doesn't do anything for your SMV with her. I think it actually might lower your SMV slightly because since you're doing labor for her, you're coming across as a faithful bellhop. You're communicating that you are a person who doesn't value himself or his own time very much, and seems to give it away freely to people he doesn't know. She'll LIKE you as a person because of your generosity and usefulness, but she … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/15 04:15 PM |
| 1 | Applied RP Theory: The case for LTRs with chubby girlsI think the dating down strategy is flawed and unnecessary. Hypergamy is more about wholeness than "better-than". A high SMV girl wants a decent SMV guy who is a WHOLE man, ie: has a job, has his shit together, is comfortable in his skin, fun to be around and acts like a man. So if her boyfriend has all the basics, and a "better than" guy rolls up in a fancy suit and hits on her, he's just going to get shot down because she's not thirsty. Her glass is already full. So there's no need to date dow… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/15 02:54 PM |
| 2 | “Such is Our Nature”Nice story. The vultures are orbiters since they hang around hoping one day to capture her, but they have to wait until she is slow and feeble. She teases them from time to time in order to keep them on the line, thinking they might catch her. The vultures bring her overripe fruits from the other gardens to entice her with. | /r/TheRedPill | 11/10/15 05:56 PM |
| 3 | Consequences of not escalating enough?Sounds like it went pretty well. But I can tell you've got it backward: You're worried about how well you performed. But it's not a video game. It's more like a movie you're directing and so you should only be focused on her performance. It's your movie, your frame, so you need direct it into whatever you want it to be. | /r/askTRP | 09/10/15 04:40 AM |
| 1 | I've learned that a truely confident man trusts in himself and his perception as the only one that he can rely on. He should act as he sees fit, but what if he feels fear, anger or other weaker emotions?It sounds like you put all your trust and faith into the whimsical "vibes" and emotions you experience throughout the day. That's not having values, it's just whimsical floating. But if that's what you value, if that's what you enjoy more than fundamental values or meanings of substance, then that's just how you are, and how you want to live. Maybe you've been around whimsical people for so long you've become one. If that's true, then you're someone who experiences strong emotions, just like the… | /r/askTRP | 09/10/15 12:07 AM |
| 1 | What laws need to be changed to incentivise marriage for men today?We need to get rid of child support. None of it goes to the child and so it's just straight up slavery. Without child support laws, the ex wife has to be nice to you and DESERVE any support you give her, which improves relations between both parents. Child support creates a situation where the mother is paid NOT to get along with the father, which eliminates any chance of reconciliation. It's the stupidest, most family-destructive program ever developed. | /r/TheRedPill | 08/10/15 05:55 AM |
| 1 | What is your purpose?My purpose is to learn how to judge people more quickly, test them and assess them, and only put faith in those who are able to demonstrate an ability to follow through. | /r/askTRP | 06/10/15 03:42 AM |
| 1 | I've learned that a truely confident man trusts in himself and his perception as the only one that he can rely on. He should act as he sees fit, but what if he feels fear, anger or other weaker emotions?Emotions are just part of the decision-making process. But if they are just firing in every different direction then you might be too tied up in your emotions to be able to decide anything, or to move forward in ANY direction. | /r/askTRP | 06/10/15 03:12 AM |
| 1 | LTR of 18 months dumped me.You need to stop thinking of her reactions/shit tests as a bad thing to fix, or worry about. "Good girl. I'm glad you feel that way." Another way around it is to say "well, you can't phrase it that way". | /r/askTRP | 06/10/15 02:43 AM |
| 1 | LTR of 18 months dumped me.<"Do you check out other chicks" That's sort of a comfort/shit test. She's looking for comfort, but she's also asking you to dance like a monkey. So the way you have to deal with one like that is to give her an answer that doesn't reward her for shit-testing you, but that also doesn't decrease her comfort. Possible answers: "Yes, but my favorite one is you." "Sometimes, but it doesn't really mean anything." "Why do you ask, what makes you think about that?" What she's really asking is if there's… | /r/askTRP | 04/10/15 05:42 PM |
| 1 | Women are like dogs. Never argue with them.If these men have decided that the main thing they need to do is switch their attitudes of equality back to sexuality, how else are they going to do that? Either women are the same as men, or they are different. And if they are different, in what way are they different? Similar to what? Seems like the only available choices are children and dogs. What other examples should they use instead to teach and remind themselves that women are not supposed to be equal to themselves, as they have finally … | /r/TheRedPill | 03/10/15 07:12 PM |
| 1 | A disturbing trend.I wasn't referring to that, and I missed that part. But that's actually pretty funny. This one just seems a little different than the other HSW posts. | /r/askTRP | 03/10/15 06:45 PM |
| 3 | What if you're a hopeless case?(I'm sure he keeps telling himself that, but it doesn't seem to be working: )Maybe he should think of women as blind people. A blind person doesn't just take one glance at you and make a determination. Neither does a woman. It's like imagine meeting a woman wearing a mask at a costume party. Can you glance at her and make a determination? No. Well, that's how they see us. She might have the most killer costume at the party, which is nice, but it doesn't tell you anything about her. You can't eve… | /r/askTRP | 03/10/15 05:38 PM |
| 1 | What if you're a hopeless case?Unattractive to whom? Attraction is a RELATIONSHIP between two people. So nobody can just be attractive or unattractive on their own, without a relationship or another person of reference. You need another person in order to have a relationship of attraction or unattraction. Let's say a girl. Are you attractive or unattractive to a girl? Well, that depends on which girl she is and what her type is. Maybe she only likes Italien guys. Maybe she goes for Spanish guys. Or maybe, if she's like 90% of… | /r/askTRP | 03/10/15 05:17 PM |
| -1 | A disturbing trend.If someone tries to fake a story and say they slept with two girls they had just met, the story will immediately unravel because the words never quite fit into the fake story. It's just too hard for the writer to fix the awkwardness that happens to the flow of the words, and so it's that awkwardness that always exposes the fake aspects of the story. Scientific method: at TRP, we methodically put together theories and conjecture based on personal anecdotes that come from empirical situations, whi… | /r/askTRP | 03/10/15 04:32 PM |
| 2 | For those of you who quit porn, how did you do it?Beating an addiction is all about strategy, not willpower. If you leave it to willpower, you're going to fail. It's as simple as that. So the ONLY way to succeed is by having an effective strategy. First, you need to decide what your goal is. You need a clear goal in order to succeed with anything. Wanting less of something is just not feasible. You need to decide on a specific outcome. The most effective level level would be zero tolerance- none whatsoever. That's easier to enforce and prevents… | /r/askTRP | 03/10/15 02:34 PM |
| 0 | Feel like I'm doing worse with Women now than pre-TRP.How did it stop? What kind of frame were you running? A "How are you, let's just continue chatting aimlessly" frame? A "Isn't this fun- I'm a dancing monkey" frame? Or a "What are you doing on Tuesday" frame? Are you only focused on what you think she wants to hear? If so, then you're not allowing her to experience YOU. | /r/askTRP | 03/10/15 02:01 PM |
| 1 | Models by Mark MansonThat is a good point. But you still have to draw the line somewhere. For example, if you crack a joke about your porn habits or how you often get snubbed by people, you're just digging your own SMV's grave. "Haha, I just tried to get a free drink from the bartender, but got denied." (She nods, thinking about what that says about you.) Or, "I got turned down by five other girls just before talking to you." (She's thinking about whether or not she ought to make it six.) So, I think the goal is to … | /r/askTRP | 03/10/15 01:31 PM |
| 1 | Models by Mark MansonI guess it's about being vulnerable only to an extent that if the girl attacks you, you still have enough strength to laugh it off. So you want to appear vulnerable without actually being vulnerable. Guys who come across as too guarded risk getting judged on that as well, as it can be a clear sign of a lack of self-confidence. | /r/askTRP | 03/10/15 11:40 AM |
| 2 | Identity crisisYou just need to team up with someone who thinks on your level and allow them to help you solve difficult issues and fill in the gaps of uncertainty. So if you are someone who has difficulty judging certain types of suspicious people or seemingly dangerous situations or just how to be with women, and what to expect from them as well as what to expect from yourself, you would have another set of eyes who would be able to help you assess the risks, the benefits and make accurate determinations on … | /r/askTRP | 03/10/15 09:19 AM |
| 1 | Is this what caused it and how do I cope now?It's a natural tendency to over invest. You just need to keep it under control and remember they're like a pretty view. You can enjoy them for the moment but you can't keep them or take them with you because they're not available in that form. You can keep a male friend in your life for as long as you like, because their interests will likely always be aligned with yours. But you can't really do that with a woman because they always seem to have different interests and conflicting agendas. If yo… | /r/askTRP | 02/10/15 01:40 AM |
| 0 | Can I actually compliment a girl somehow? (Not her looks, e.g. her smell)Why do you have the urge to compliment them? Is it because you think it will make them like you? I don't think that works on girls or guys. | /r/askTRP | 30/09/15 06:30 AM |
| 1 | 25 year old incel; please help.You just need to get around the right people who understand you and can help you understand yourself. One question I have, my "travelin' friend", is what do you say to women when they remark: "Oh, you don't live here?" How do you establish any level of significance without any type of permanent residency or physical presence? You hear of the old saying: a girl in every port, but how do they not get severely discounted for not living there? I tried dating girls from out of town but I got so sick … | /r/askTRP | 30/09/15 05:57 AM |
| 3 | If you're about to post about "this one girl", you must answer this question in your post:That would be a good title for the next piece: YOUR Time Lesson: If you're not herding, you're probably being herded. | /r/askTRP | 30/09/15 05:48 AM |
| 1 | LTR of 18 months dumped me.No, that's the point. You're still thinking of her in terms of a man. Whenever a woman fights it's to test you. So fighting wasn't a failure, or something you did wrong. Women do that on purpose. It's not because you're an asshole or being unfair. It's because you're not being ENOUGH of an asshole. Guys go about it backwards, not realizing that placating a woman only makes it worse. You need to do the opposite of what you would instinctively do if she were a man. If a man complains about somethi… | /r/askTRP | 29/09/15 05:49 AM |
| 1 | [Career] I drop anything I become moderately good atYou need to find someone who can challenge you, and can keep up with you. | /r/askTRP | 28/09/15 06:55 PM |
| 1 | LTR of 18 months dumped me.The lesson here is if you don't take charge of her, she will take charge of you. Arguing over which phone you use or which website you visit? That's not a relationship, that's a controlship. She dumped you because you didn't assume the masculine side of the relationship, and so she wasn't able to connect with you in a man-to-woman manner. It had nothing to do with the phone. That was just a symptom of the connection issue. The phone argument was her last test, her final attempt to see if you wer… | /r/askTRP | 28/09/15 05:15 PM |
| 1 | How to handle aggro from guysWell, you could just do it with a more subtle approach, and talk to him like he's a friend who's in a bad mood. Cheer up, mate. Have another beer. Is everything okay? Wanna talk about it? Then when he responds with an insult, give him a warm smile and say "there's the old pepper!" Or you could treat it like a roast from all your friends, smile, laugh nodding and saying "that's a good one", and bask in the warmth of his attention. The more attention he gives you, the more you appear to enjoy it. … | /r/askTRP | 28/09/15 04:08 PM |
| 1 | How to seal the deal?Instead of focusing on what you think she wants, focus on what you want. That's what she wants you to do anyway. If we were to ask her: "Does she want you to hold her hand?" She would respond: "Maybe, if he wants to". She would have the exact same answer for everything all the way up to fucking. She understands that it's not up to her, it's up to you. What you want to do with her is up to you, because it's based on what YOU want. You're the pitcher and she's the catcher. Both the pitcher and cat… | /r/askTRP | 28/09/15 06:03 AM |
| 1 | How to seal the deal?Instead of focusing on what you think she wants, focus on what you want. That's what she wants you to do anyway. If we were to ask her: "Does she want you to hold her hand?" She would respond: "Maybe, if he wants to". She would have the exact same answer for everything all the way up to fucking. She understands that it's not up to her, it's up to you. What you want to do with her is up to you, because it's based on what YOU want. You're the pitcher and she's the catcher. Both the pitcher and cat… | /r/askTRP | 28/09/15 06:03 AM |
| 1 | How to handle aggro from guysI would give him shit for being in such a bad mood: "Wow, somebody woke up on the wrong side of the bed....Somebody's got a case of the grumpies." Either he turns tail and walks away, or he doubles down and proves your point, becoming what you are mocking him to be, which allows you to say: "Yep, thought so." He loses either way, and just makes it worse for himself by getting angry. "Wow, you seem really angry. Are you okay? Having a bad day? Everything okay at home? Do you need (medical) assist… | /r/askTRP | 28/09/15 04:56 AM |
| 0 | Hooking up with a girl in a LTRThe only way to fail a shit test is by dutifully providing a convincing answer. Such a good dancing monkey performance will earn you an applause, a tip, and a pat on the head. | /r/askTRP | 28/09/15 04:19 AM |
| 1 | Guys older than myself, What are some things you wish you had known about women when you were 20?That girls just see themselves as ordinary people in the mirror. They can't see the shiny image that you see. That they are a different gender and so you have to subjugate them in order to connect with them, which is the opposite of placing them on a pedestal. That respect is like a seesaw-shaped angle of connection between you and the girl. The higher you raise her end of the seesaw, the lower you're making your end appear. That a girl can only connect with you if you're on the upward end of th… | /r/seduction | 27/09/15 08:28 PM |
| 1 | Do you think that intentionally giving false hopes to someone about a relationship is a horrible thing to do?People choose to participate in a relationship because it makes them happier and better off. If the woman's happiness is conditional on an illusion, her life consists of the chase of that happiness, not the capture of it. People never really capture their goals because if they did, they would become depressed because they wouldn't have anything more to look forward to. Life is the chase, not the capture. Your life is today, not someday. If, on her deathbed, the man confessed that he never intend… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/15 03:43 AM |
| 1 | Do you think that intentionally giving false hopes to someone about a relationship is a horrible thing to do?They allow them to have false hopes. They can't really lie or make any promises because then they would immediately be held to them. But if the women are happier as a result of having "false hopes", then they're already living a better life. And so if it creates a romantic stability and happiness that lasts for many years, then the hope becomes a reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/15 02:04 AM |
| 1 | Do you think that intentionally giving false hopes to someone about a relationship is a horrible thing to do?Being plated might be the ONLY way a woman who was raised with a strong, independent identity would be able to squeeze back down into her feminine, submissive gender role of the relationship. Remember, all these plates come from failed one-on-one relationships where they just weren't able to connect with a man in a lasting manner. So being plated might be the only way they are able to connect with man according to gender in a lasting, stable manner. So if plating is something that works in an en… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/15 01:28 AM |
| 2 | I want a life that consists of partying , drinking, having alpha males as friends, and sex with hot girls but I am afraid I am too old to ever be in a fraternity, how do I make this a reality now?You need to go back and fix the situations, relationships and friendships you already have. The road to happiness is in you, not the environment. | /r/seduction | 24/09/15 07:27 PM |
| 3 | Preview on mod behaviorI don't think your snark was the issue. That was actually a pretty funny way of saying "I disagree." It would have made an excellent opening sentence. But one of the general rules of having a discussion is that you need to say WHY you disagree. The object of a discussion is for each person to present the logical reasons for their point of view in an effort to strengthen their knowledge and understanding by considering the reasons behind the other points of view. But someone just saying "I disagr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/15 07:05 PM |
| 1 | Am I just a massive whore? Or is this normal/ good behavior?Oh when are you going to start treating people with respect? You get what you give. And don't be so sure about your intellect. If you were that smart you wouldn't keep doing these things to yourself. | /r/askTRP | 23/09/15 06:00 AM |
| 1 | I think people miss the point with the whole Fat Acceptance thingWell, that's a factor to some extent also. But we've been farming for thousands of years, and people were baking bread, cakes and pies for at least 3,000 years, even in biblical times. And they've had granulated sugar for half of that time. So, humans have had at least 3,000 years to de-select fat women and cull them out....and didn't. They just continued culling out the thin ones. On the other hand, we've only been eating American foods for around 300 years. American foods are much more fatteni… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/15 07:11 AM |
| 1 | I think people miss the point with the whole Fat Acceptance thingPeople have trouble understanding that some people are not able to control something they are able to control. So to them, it seems like such a simple thing, like choosing not to smoke. But people with obesity fall into a pain-reward cycle that's nearly impossible to get out of. If they try to cut back on eating, they will suffer tortuously-intense amounts of pain. It's actually better to go after the reward part of it, by switching things up to get rid of the rewards. For example if you're crav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/15 05:54 PM |
| -13 | PSA - Be cautious of your online persona"A woman is not a toy". Yeah, I'm pretty sure your mom didn't get pregnant with you as a result of your dad treating her with respect, or treating her like an equal, or treating her like a person. She got pregnant because your dad treated her like a fuck toy. | /r/TheRedPill | 20/09/15 04:20 PM |
| 1 | Why do TRPillers advice men to ditch women that TRP strategies don't work on ?"Why do TRPillers advise men to ditch women that TRP strategies didn't work on" I've never seen them say it that way, and so I don't think they think that far into it. They usually recommed to ditch the woman if they're already in a bad situation, which doesn't really make much sense in a subreddit devoted to changing the man's behavior. You would think they would recommend changing their behavior first and seeing how that works out. But most of the time they just say to get rid of her. Not all … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/15 03:44 PM |
| 1 | If women are as sexual and rational as men, why can't you ask them for sex directly?It's like asking a blind person for sex. How does she know your SMV? How does she know you're not a loser? A blind person would want to get to know you, so they can feel your value. Same with a woman. Women are like blind people- they can't go by looks because to them, guys with high SMVs look exactly the same as guys with low SMVs. So even if they think you're cute or handsome, they're not going to give you a high SMV score just based on that. You could be a cute janitor, or handsome golf caddy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/15 03:10 PM |
| 0 | CMV: You cannot manipulate sexual desireAll manipulation is the same process. It just means you're trying to manually "ipulate" the situation. How you do it can be broken down to either overt coercion, where you're trying to force them or otherwise talk them into it, or covert manipulation, where you are just doing something subtle to try to create a situation or affect the situation in some way. So whether that means the guy being stoic, or combing his hair, or a girl is wearing a push-up bra, or a hostess is wearing a smile, these e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/15 11:51 PM |
| 1 | CMV: You cannot manipulate sexual desireI think you're mixing manipulation with coercion. Coercion is trying to coerce a girl into being attracted. "Come on baby, you know you want it." Of course that's not going to work. Manipulation would be a guy who is acting masculine, running a good frame, etc. That kind of manipulation is likely to work if, as a total package, it is attractive. By the same token, if the guy who that would have worked for- doesn't manipulate those things, and acts respectful and complimentary toward the girl, tr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/15 07:35 PM |
| 1 | Post pictures of what you think a 4, 6 and 8 look like of the gender you are attracted to.Well, to your point I guess unattractiveness is universal, while attraction is more subjective like my sports team analogy. A girl is not going to be a 9 or 10 to me unless she is my personal preference. I don't care how famous she is or how many guys want her. I would give Pamella a 5 because of her fake breasts and tan, (she was a 9 before that) J-lo and Courtney Cox are 8s to me. I wouldn't be nervous talking to them at all, and would walk right past them without more than a glance. But then … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/15 03:57 PM |
| 1 | Red pill and being silly in relationshipsWhen first meeting someone and building respect with them, you need to hold frame and make sure any silliness you engage in will earn respect for your lack of fear, rather than erode it. But after you pass through the initial judgement stage, you can relax and be playful, and only need to hold frame for serius issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/15 03:23 PM |
| 3 | CMV: A lot of TRPillers we see at the subreddit are fakes.I would counter that your "mythomaniac" friend might have been telling the truth, which I would be happy to analyze for you. Whenever I dig into these throes of situations, 99% of them always seem to have some element of truth with a twist that made it appear fake. I've only ever met one person who would fabricate a story in its entirety, but even then the only times he ever did that was in an effort to fill in some type of gap that he would have had to fill in anyway, such as where he lives or … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/15 03:06 PM |
| 1 | CMV: A lot of TRPillers we see at the subreddit are fakes.I very rarely see any fibs in field reports, and have never seen one that seemed mostly fabricated. Truth is usually stranger than fiction, so there are always going to be plenty of stories from people as well as ones they observed, or heard from a best friend. If you have a group of over 100,000 people and one of them steps up to tell a story, you can count on it being interesting and having at least one surprising aspect. But if you've seen a field report that seems unlikely, we can pick it ap… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/15 02:48 PM |
| 1 | TRPers, sorry if I am misunderstanding you, but do some of you think there is a moral difference between genders?"Deserve the same amount of respect and dignity" ...from who? The man in a relationship with them, or from other men not in a relationship with them? And if from other men, what kind of respect and dignity....for the man over the woman in a relationship? Or for other men over other women who are not in a relationship? If they're not equal mentally or physically, and can only connect in a masculine-feminine manner, then I don't think they can interact with equal respect and dignity because mascul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/15 02:22 PM |
| 1 | Post pictures of what you think a 4, 6 and 8 look like of the gender you are attracted to.I think she's still wearing makeup in that one too, just more subtly. Her eyes still look a little too amazing. So you would still have to draw it in order to get that look. Might be worth it if it raises their looks a couple of points. But whoever did the other one is a fucking Picasso, so it's also a question of -whether- it can be duplicated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/15 10:18 PM |
| 3 | Post pictures of what you think a 4, 6 and 8 look like of the gender you are attracted to.This is the only scale I semi-agree with, although I'd rank both the 8 and 9s as equal 9s. They're the only 9s I've seen in this thread. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/15 10:04 PM |
| 1 | Post pictures of what you think a 4, 6 and 8 look like of the gender you are attracted to.I'd give the 4 a 6 because I like healthy-looking eyebrows. I think the 5,5-6 is Taylor Swift whom I would give an 8 And the 8 I would rank as a 4-5, as she's just not my type. See it's all over the place- completely subjective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/15 09:51 PM |
| 1 | Post pictures of what you think a 4, 6 and 8 look like of the gender you are attracted to.This is so funny, as I would only give Barbera a 7. Her eyes do look amazing, but that's more of a beautiful drawing on her face from an excellent makeup job. But any girl could look like that- just print it out and hire a makeup artist to recreate the look on your girl, and presto- she'll look like that! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/15 09:38 PM |
| 1 | Post pictures of what you think a 4, 6 and 8 look like of the gender you are attracted to.Well then there you go. You're already in the ideal situation. If he says it without being prompted, then it is true. There's a big difference between his bringing up that you're a 10 out of the blue, when he has no reason or motive to make that a point -vs- telling you what you want to hear when prompted to do so. Also, if you catch him staring, or turning the lights on well there's your answer also. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/15 08:51 PM |
| 0 | Post pictures of what you think a 4, 6 and 8 look like of the gender you are attracted to.Well, here's an exception: I'd score all the 1s and 2s as negatively attractive, meaning I'd rather hug a dog. I saw one listed as a 3 who I would give a solid 7. And half of the 6s and 7s I would rank 3-5s. And I would rank all the ones it lists as 9s between 5-7 with the exception of one of them whom I'd give an 8. Sure they don't have any flaws; neither does a 2-by-4, but that doesn't make it attractive. It's all very subjective- like ranking your favorite colors or your favorite sports teams… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/15 08:31 PM |
| 1 | Post pictures of what you think a 4, 6 and 8 look like of the gender you are attracted to.Some of your "flaws" to some guys are actually signs of perfection to others. Unsightly bulges? ... or luscious curves? That depends on the guy and which body type his is attracted to. If you have a choice, you might as well go with the guy who sees you as a 9, and whom you see as a 9. It would be a mistake to date a guy who is a 6 or 7 to you, because he's just the wrong guy for you, and it wouldn't be fair to him either, to tie him up when he could otherwise find a girl who sees him as an 8. L… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/15 08:14 PM |
| 1 | people who have just swallowed the red pill need to meet random women, because they shit test the most.Good point. Frame is controlling the frame of your own focus, from within yourself, or controlling the frame of a group's focus, from within the group. Controlling your own frame is making sure your focus or angle is what you wanted it to be. "I'm so nervous, this girl is way out of my league" would be an undesirable, destructive frame. A better frame would be reminding yourself that seeing a pretty girl is like looking at your favorite color, or watching your favorite sports team. How she looks… | /r/TheRedPill | 14/09/15 08:18 PM |
| 1 | Women go the Divorce Casino and play with the house’s cash.So, it's their expectations that are driving women to initiate divorce. They see bits and pieces of TV shows, movies, Facebook, family and friends and hamster all the best aspects of each into an ideal....that doesn't exist. | /r/TheRedPill | 14/09/15 05:02 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women must work harder to maintain their SMVWomen probably work harder on their appearance, and some of it (hair/clothes/makeup) is necessary. But I think it's silly when they try to work on their bodies. They have no idea what looks good, so at least half of their "adjustments" either don't accomplish anything, or make it look worse. They always want to get rid of fat/feminine bulges, not realizing that the the model they're using for what looks good is a thin, unfeminine body. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so it's like trying to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/15 03:16 AM |
| 1 | people who have just swallowed the red pill need to meet random women, because they shit test the most.Great post and great examples for keeping it light and holding frame. I guess your techniques are a bit advanced for the room, so next time you'll need to spend a little more time introducing the explanations for each facet of every concept. For a lot of guys, advanced game is forming complete sentences in front of a girl. So you can see how the thought of discussing the act of fucking a chicken in front of a girl might seem a bit far-fetched to them. I wonder if we could come up with something … | /r/TheRedPill | 13/09/15 07:35 AM |
| 1 | people who have just swallowed the red pill need to meet random women, because they shit test the most.Frame means frame of focus. If his frame of focus is built around fucking a chicken, then that's what it is about. He's running it like a movie and so in his movie, fucking chickens is the main plot. He held that frame and didn't allow the movie to stray from that theme. Losing frame would be if the girl switches the topic to something else, or if another guy or girl pops in and changes the subject. Then he has the option of taking over the new subject and running that as the frame, or dragging … | /r/TheRedPill | 13/09/15 06:46 AM |
| 2 | Red pill, Hierarchy, Accountability/TransparencyRedPill originally was an open forum and that is how it developed much of its knowledgebase. But then once the knowledgebase began to be seen as valuable, it was hijacked by some people who wanted to "protect" the knowledgebase from being diluted by newcomers. So, all discussion and debate on the facets of it were moved to PPD to be mixed in with the debate of even the existence of TRP. As a result, we never see any posts trying to improve any aspects of TRP, and mainly only get ones defending v… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/15 11:05 PM |
| 1 | I'm thinking this is why it's pointless to discuss things with trp: inflexible thought patternsSo, my point is that I agree with you that there are a lot of knuckleheads in TRP and a lot of them ARE misogynists. But their underlying goal is positive because they're trying to fix the part of male-female relationships that is broken. How they go about it might seem "not nice", but if it achieves a relationship that is happy on both ends, then I think it should be viewed as positive overall. If a man is able to use his new "women are children" attitude to connect with his wife on a masculine… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/15 09:49 PM |
| 1 | I'm thinking this is why it's pointless to discuss things with trp: inflexible thought patternsThe resources argument explains some of the situations, but doesn't account for a five-fold increase. In the old days, a miserable wife could vote with her feet and go back home to her parents. But they didn't...because they weren't miserable. In fact they were very productive and had lots of children. If you've worked with people before, you know that the happiest people are always the most productive. So you can count how many of them were happy by how many children they raised. And in those d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/15 02:11 AM |
| 1 | How To Get The Quick LayYes, that is a good point also. We've all run into women who have hangups about sex. But I wonder to what extent were those hangups tied to their alpha-beta judgement of us? If a woman decides she wants to get to know a guy as friends first, because she feels that any guy could just want to have sex with her, and she doesn't want another relationship like that where the guy ONLY wants sex with her, then won't she still require the alpha to get to know her first? | /r/TheRedPill | 10/09/15 07:50 PM |
| 1 | I'm thinking this is why it's pointless to discuss things with trp: inflexible thought patternsYou seem concerned about men's historic attitudes toward women concerning how they connected with them, and how they treated them not as equals in a relationship. But they're not equals and they aren't even able to connect as such. You can see that in the current epidemic of divorces, which are around 5-fold higher than any other time in history. The process of marriage is at a complete standstill. For the majority of couples, being happily married is unworkable. They can't both fulfill the masc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/15 07:24 PM |
| 2 | I'm thinking this is why it's pointless to discuss things with trp: inflexible thought patternsSo what? That's how men and women connect, how they fit together. Two halves of a whole. But they are not equal halves. More like outer-inner. The part you keep missing is a woman is not a whole. Nor is a man. The human unit is a couple. Individual humans aren't whole humans because they can't reproduce. Only couples can exist in that manner. So there's no such thing as an individual whole human in the human race. If there was one, it would die out immediately in generation zero. Without reprodu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/15 05:35 AM |
| 2 | How To Get The Quick LaySo, if she wants to get to know you more first, and is looking for a bit of commitment, you're saying that must mean that she has judged you as beta? Are you saying that if a girl is wanting to take time to get to know you, that that says more about you (and your beta behavior) than it says about her and her own emotional hang ups? | /r/TheRedPill | 10/09/15 04:11 AM |
| 2 | Started reading Red-Pill a couple months ago and applied it to Tinder...I think I did this right.Hey, sorry I didn't notice this last week, but wanted to try and build upon it. "You have heterochromia." No pedestalization. Actually, that opening line achieves the opposite of pedestalization by establishing judgmental subjugation. (Sub-judge-ation) It's a good test opener and she performed well by taking a cold, judgmental opener and warming it up with humor, thanks and an emoticon. This shows she's easy to get along with and doesn't carry a lot of emotional baggage. "It sounds cooler than t… | /r/TheRedPill | 10/09/15 02:05 AM |
| 5 | The Crisis of US Higher EducationYou wouldn't have learned anything about actual human psychology anyway. All you would have become is high priest and professor of the official scholastic, canonized, self-contained, dogmatic history of the study of psychology. Not psychology itself, the study of the study of it. Any study you made would have been required to be fully based and footnoted in previous generations of student studies of the study of psychology, as well as peer-reviewed to ensure its obedient congruence to the tightl… | /r/TheRedPill | 30/08/15 09:05 PM |
| 19 | The Crisis of US Higher EducationOne problem for your daughter is that mainstream schools will align her as a male: strong, independent, professional, career-oriented employee. So when she graduates high school, she will have no concept of anything to do with being a good girlfriend, wife, or mother. She won't even be able to picture herself in any of the roles that are necessary for her survival. Sending her to mainstream school is like taking her uterus to the casino and betting it on red or black, because the "culture of equ… | /r/TheRedPill | 30/08/15 08:30 PM |
| 3 | The "girls are dumb" negBut here's the thing: the girl is going to judge him on his intelligence relative to hers...anyway. She's going to judge him on how other girls view him...anyway. If he tells her that his last girlfriend left him, that's going to unfairly lower her assessment of him and weigh down his chances with her. Same goes if he tells her his last girlfriend was always correcting him on everything, or if she sees a picture of him with an unhappy girl. Another example would be if the guy makes a seemingly r… | /r/TheRedPill | 30/08/15 07:42 PM |
| 3 | The "girls are dumb" neg"Posing hard" Wow, that is some next-level game. Featuring photos of you with hot girls posing hard with a hungry expression of "I hope he likes me", or cat-who-swallowed-the-canary "looky what I got" or glaring contemptuously "everybody fuck off, he's mine." | /r/TheRedPill | 30/08/15 06:36 PM |
| 2 | The "girls are dumb" negYou seem pretty good at establishing the "everybody wants me" frame. You could probably take it farther with one that demonstrates "everybody respects my knowledge". If the goal is to get the girl to defer to you on important matters, what are some of the ways to achieve that? If you tell her she should defer to you because "I'm the man of the relationship" it will just set off her "equality" alarm that was instilled in her by the feminist culture. One technique is to make her feel dumb so she'l… | /r/TheRedPill | 30/08/15 06:08 PM |
| 2 | The "girls are dumb" negThat is all true, but his point isn't to work out the philosophical aspects of sex. If someone were to ask "Is it sexual when a girl eats a chocolate bar slowly?" The underlying implication is that "girls love to eat chocolate bars." The point is to get her thinking and talking about a situation where other girls were experiencing the urge to have sex with him, and all the different ways they were wanting to have sex with him. This achieves pre-selection and more importantly, it gets the girl to… | /r/TheRedPill | 30/08/15 05:28 PM |
| 1 | CMV it is impossible to conclude that any TRP tenant is wrong by misusing it.I think you can disprove AF BB by misusing it by being AB, because there's nothing wrong with being AB. But it depends on how you define "bucks". Providing things the woman didn't ask for is Alpha. That's like providing your kid with the best athletic gear, or providing your dog with the best toys and dog bed. Providing things the woman asks for is beta. Alpha -vs- Beta is all about who's calling the shots, not who's paying for them. AF BB seems more of a mindset to help guys remember not to bec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/15 02:30 PM |
| 2 | Why is it wrong to dislike women?That is correct. Unlike other groups, members of this group are programmed to be difficult and give you a hard time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/15 04:38 AM |
| 1 | Do women have sociopath traits?Yes, that is all true. And no, you can't just "get one who will relax and chill". Such a person doesn't exist. They don't work that way because that would be a sure-fail strategy for both you and her, as well as any kids you have with her. Women are not designed to make you feel comfortable. They're designed to help you win. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/15 04:02 AM |
| 1 | "If a man has a strong enough desire to physically escalate, and she perceives him to be of higher value, she will willingly be the object of desire."Oh, so as you tease her with your attention, she learns that escalating gets her more and better quality attention. So, when you guide her hand to your zipper, if she pulls away, you begin to "lose interest" and pull away. | /r/TheRedPill | 26/08/15 05:00 PM |
| 2 | "If a man has a strong enough desire to physically escalate, and she perceives him to be of higher value, she will willingly be the object of desire."You're going to get judged by it either way, so might as well come down on the high SMV side. | /r/TheRedPill | 26/08/15 05:31 AM |
| 1 | "If a man has a strong enough desire to physically escalate, and she perceives him to be of higher value, she will willingly be the object of desire."Wow, 15 years without LMR? Sounds like you've got it down to a science. So, how do you escalate without escalating? Some women are happy enough just to get validation by email (Online dating validationistas). Some women are happy to get it just by being with you in person. And some women are just happy to hang out and kiss a bit. They seem like they could carry that on for years. So, it seems like you would need to provide them a reason to escalate. Otherwise a large portion of them never will. … | /r/TheRedPill | 26/08/15 05:21 AM |
| 1 | Blading since 16, 18 now and I've decided to shave, how should I go about it?Well, that's good about staying away from tobacco and getting enough sunlight because those two make a big difference. Hats are optional- I'm just gathering info on them. What's your status on nutrition? Were you saying that other than for a few weeks, you've never taken vitamins? How about sodium/salt? It's in a lot of foods but the daily requirement is 1800 mg (3/4 of a teaspoon) Have you eaten daily vegetables such as broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, spinach, collard greens? (Lettuce doesn't r… | /r/TheRedPill | 24/08/15 06:15 AM |
| 1 | Blading since 16, 18 now and I've decided to shave, how should I go about it?Balding at 18? Wow, I'm really sorry to hear that. Maybe there's some things you can do to reverse it. I'm a scientist, so I wonder if I could ask a few questions: Did you smoke or chew tobacco? Get daily sunlight on your skin? Take a multivitamin? Drink milk? Wore a hat every day? | /r/TheRedPill | 24/08/15 02:03 AM |
| 1 | I have nothing but hate for women and while I still find them sexually appealing I've been turning down chances for sex.Well, in the current environment of feminism/gender communism, marriage communism, family communism and divorce communism, they ARE predators. But it's the toxic communist system of communal sharing of production that you hate, not the women themselves. In a family-communal system like in the U.S., and other western gender-communal countries, you can't build a family without running a 50-50 risk of being life-raped and converted into a 20-year personal slave for the woman. But it's the governmen… | /r/askTRP | 23/08/15 07:47 PM |
| 1 | A biologists critique of MGTOW and FeminismBuried inside the aggressive, baiting, overbearing comment from the guy above, he did make a valid point that needs to be addressed and either resolved or respected. Here it is again- clarified in a more respectful, neutral tone: A man's long-term value [to himself] is what he gets from life for himself. [My preference states that] Future generations do not matter. Do what you want, take what you want. If you want children you TAKE IT. You can go your own way, seed many wombs and not let any of … | /r/TheRedPill | 20/08/15 03:09 PM |
| 2 | A biologists critique of MGTOW and FeminismShould delete the "breaking frame" comment above and accept the ad-hominem attack above as an award and trophy for your previous comment. It's quite an honor. You destroyed his argument so elegantly, so thoroughly that you left him nowhere else to go. I would just respond with "thank you". | /r/TheRedPill | 20/08/15 02:14 PM |
| 1 | A biologists critique of MGTOW and FeminismGood point. A lot of guys on here aren't factoring in the likelihood that TRP might have fixed the divorce-slavery issue. But then again, it's sort of like telling a dark-skinned gentleman in the early 1800's that if he wears a suit while traveling through the South, he won't "likely" be captured and "put to work". As long as society continues to put pressure on women to be equal, they might not be ABLE to be wives. It's just like the pressure of monogamy. "What do you mean he has another girlfr… | /r/TheRedPill | 20/08/15 01:43 PM |
| 1 | Are you an apologetic or are you an accuser?Yep and definitely true about a man's eyes. I know a lot of women have difficulty with that because it seems so shallow to them. They say well, I don't want to be someone's eye candy. I'm a person, not a doll. And I sympathize with them a little. I've been used as social proof to the girl's family and friends and that seemed equally shallow and stupid. But it's what the other side wants, and the part they enjoy so you just roll your eyes and go along with it. But can you control the meaning with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/15 01:37 AM |
| 1 | Are you an apologetic or are you an accuser?I just noticed you have a lot of interesting questions that I missed. Are you still interested in them? A girl is in college, and is really attracted to this guy she knows...and a lot of other girls are also after him. That seems to be part of the female recipe for evolutionary success. Most men aren't attracted to women that way, and so it's hard for me to imagine thinking that way. I can't call it superficial because I know the only reason it exists is because it was the winning strategy that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 05:07 AM |
| 1 | Why should we say that women , as a group, are inferior ?You're submissive to a man coming from the other direction down the hall or on the sidewalk. Not because you're inferior, but because that's the only way you can fit together in the hall or on the sidewalk. That isn't being submissive EEEHHNNT. Try again. :-) Friend example clarified: You often submit to your friend (and he to you) because that's the only way you can both fit together in the friendship. Even if women were found to be superior, they would still have to be submissive because that'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 08:13 PM |
| 1 | Why should we say that women , as a group, are inferior ?Being submissive implies inferiority. I don't think that is true, but it's worth exploring to see if there's anything that implies that it is. You're submissive to your boss. Are you inferior? No, that's just how you both fit together in the employment deal. You're submissive to a man coming from the other direction down the hall or on the sidewalk. Not because you're inferior, but because that's the only way you can fit together in the hall or on the sidewalk. You often submit to your friend be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 07:14 PM |
| 1 | How to act around a girl you'll be going on a date with?I was just thinking about how giving her your attention is a form of pressure, and asking her on a date is pressure. She's going to feel the pressure of the date every day, so if you pile on daily attention pressure on top of that, you might be doubling or tripling the overall pressure. ("Guess who, it's me again. The same guy who pops up every time you turn around.") | /r/askTRP | 09/08/15 01:24 AM |
| 2 | How to act around a girl you'll be going on a date with?Give her half as much attention (attentive pressure) because you're already giving her the pressure of the date. | /r/askTRP | 08/08/15 05:12 PM |
| 1 | "theory of cognitive dissonance" used in potential shit testYeah, that assumes you're used to having a playful banter with her, but it does need to be toned down a bit with someone who is new. The idea is that she is invading your space and your role. Whenever you speak to her, it is always correct because you are the relationship director. So, this is like an actress trying to correct the director about how he phrased a request he made to her. Her job is to fulfill the request, not debate about how it is phrased. It's a slight level of insubordination b… | /r/askTRP | 08/08/15 04:53 PM |
| 1 | Fitting Reply to a Snarky BitchWell I'll concede your point of it more likely not being a mistake, but it wasn't initially clear that that was what he was doing due to the ambiguity of the word "cool". But it still comes off as a reliability issue, so I think it would be a mistake for him to not address it and leave her to think that he doesn't know any better. "You're an ass" was her (poorly behaved) way of saying "this is important." A good way to finish the dread would have been to say "Hey, hey that's no way to talk. Sorr… | /r/askTRP | 08/08/15 04:01 PM |
| 1 | Fitting Reply to a Snarky Bitch(Edit) To your and the point below, due to the ambiguity of "has been cool for a while" it looks like it might have been done intentionally for dread game. | /r/askTRP | 08/08/15 09:05 AM |
| 2 | "theory of cognitive dissonance" used in potential shit testYeah it was a shit test, although she was half-right about #3: Telling her the dates would have been an option. Doesn't matter, she was a bad girl and needs to behave herself and be more respectful. Playfully chide her for her bad behavior: "You seem confused". "You seem to have a lot of dissonance". "You need to hush and let me do it." She was mostly wrong this time, but if she's ever right, you could tell her to "hush up, this isn't grammar school" and then try to do it the way she asked. That… | /r/askTRP | 08/08/15 06:25 AM |
| -1 | Fitting Reply to a Snarky Bitch(Corrected with respect to other points that were made below.) Normally I don't advocate apologizing to a girl. But in cases where you (edit)-intentionally fuck up, I think you have to at least say something that shows you understand that, just so she knows you know the difference. "Hey, hey that's no way to talk. Sorry, I've just been too busy. I'll try to make more time for you." That's agreeing with her that it is important, but implying she is not. Or "Yeah, I just wanted you to experience a… | /r/askTRP | 08/08/15 06:02 AM |
| 1 | Plating a married womanIt's like breaking the law. You probably won't get caught. Sky diving: Your parachute probably will open. Drunk driving: you probably won't get pulled. If "probably" is good enough for you, then go for it. | /r/askTRP | 08/08/15 03:57 AM |
| 1 | Can you put a positive spin on RP Tactics?How is connecting to a woman in a masculine manner "manipulative destructive to the other human"? Is it destructive to their equality? Their equality to what? Panda? Chipmunk? Koala bear? Oh, you want to try to treat them equal to a man, never mind that they aren't men. Just treat 'em as if they were anyway? See anything wrong with that concept? Let's explore this with a few thought exercises just to project how it would look and where it goes: Have you tried experimenting with switching any oth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/15 01:36 AM |
| 15 | How to Focus Your Innate ConfidenceGreat post, and great way to remember to be alpha. Amused mastery is a good dating or relationship tool for dealing with difficult situations. "Buy me a drink" You can mock her: well aren't you the thirsty one? You can chide her: oh, are you hittin' it hard tonight? Whatever type of situation is thrown at you, you're like a guy sitting with an amused smirk on his face, acting like he is causing it all to happen. Girl: "Are you here to pick up girls?" No, I'm trying to get them to ask funny quest… | /r/TheRedPill | 07/08/15 12:56 AM |
| 1 | Are there any RedPill ideas you disagree with?Just google rape or sexual battery. 99% of them happened without a struggle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/15 12:09 AM |
| 1 | Are there any RedPill ideas you disagree with?I don't think anyone has ever proven a date rape. It's not like there's a witness who saw it or a video. So all the convictions are done without any evidence. Just from the words coming out of the girl's mouth. It doesn't seem fair, but that's how they do it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 11:35 PM |
| 1 | Are there any RedPill ideas you disagree with?In the U.S., the police will arrest you completely based on what the girl tells them, if she sounds believable. We are all one woman's words away from being snatched up like animals. And the jury will convict you based on what she said. American women are like queens of England back in olden days. With a word they can call the guards and have you taken away. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 09:52 PM |
| 3 | Why should a woman get married?What is your goal in life, to be a good worker? "Mentors" are pushing you into developing yourself into a worker for others and companies are tricking you into producing for them by making you feel valued. But after 40 years of that, what will you have to show for it? A chance to rest from doing all that work? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 04:46 PM |
| 1 | Are there any RedPill ideas you disagree with?In order for it to be rape, you have to leave her feeling like she was raped. That's not the same as forcing yourself on her because it depends more on how you treat her afterward. You can gently undress a lot of girls and make love to them without running into any resistance, but just because it was easy doesn't mean it wasn't conditional. But if you throw her out without any indication of ever wanting to see her again, then what you did becomes rape. Likewise, if you force yourself on her, but… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 04:20 PM |
| 1 | Are there any RedPill ideas you disagree with?Date rape is more about how you treat her AFTER you fuck her. If she's into you and you make her feel secure that you want a relationship with her, it is unlikely that she's going to care about your over-exuberant desire to build a relationship with her. But if you hit it and quit it, you've just created a victim. Never kick a girl out to get some sleep like Mike Tyson did and always call her later as opposed to what Kobe and Julien Assange didn't do. And never have an argument with a girl after… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 02:45 PM |
| 2 | What conclusions have you derived without peer-reviewed studies addressing the exact same point?I think of "peer-reviewed studies" as either recycled footnotes or social propaganda. "Try listening to your significant other and giving them more respect". Yeah, that's what usually got them into the mess in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 07:54 AM |
| 1 | Are there any RedPill ideas you disagree with?How? If it's not something that's going to work then how is it a strategy? Rape is a strategy for getting thrown in jail, not having sex. Or at least the kind of sex they desired. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/15 11:45 PM |
| 1 | Are there any RedPill ideas you disagree with?The AF/BB is either-or so it implies that if alpha provides, he's no longer AF. A lot of guys believe that it's absolute, that there's no possibility for Alpha Bux. That's sort of true when you first meet a woman because anything you do for her could be construed as trying to get her to like you. But after the first meeting, it's not quite so clear. So I think guys need to focus more on whether they're Alpha than whether they are Bux. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/15 11:18 PM |
| 1 | Are there any RedPill ideas you disagree with?Well, it's not viable either. Sort of like saying your financial strategy is to win the lottery. I think a strategy has to be viable or else it isn't a strategy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/15 11:05 PM |
| 2 | Are there any RedPill ideas you disagree with?I disagree with AF/BB. People provide for their pets by buying them toys, leashes, beds and providing them with top-quality medical care. People provide their children with the best clothes, equipment and education money can buy. So there's nothing un-alpha about being a provider. A beta can make up for his lack of alpha-attractiveness by providing, but that has nothing to do with whether or not he is alpha. His attitude/context of behavior is what determines that. Is he providing out of caring … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/15 06:57 PM |
| 2 | Are there any RedPill ideas you disagree with?Isn't that like calling robbery a financial strategy? One of the problems with the modern version of rape is it blurs the line between sex and rape. Generally speaking, sex is something a man does to a woman, so if the woman's attitude/perceived context changes at some point later with the realization "he was just using me", it changes her memory of the event into a list of things "he did to me" that were unwanted, implying it was all against her will. She's very believable because she's telling… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/15 05:57 PM |
| 0 | Is it me or do a lot of field reports seem like fanfictions?Nah, it's right on the money of what I would have expected the result to be, considering what he was doing. It's that powerful. But only like 1 in 10,000 guys is able to do that. So his initial behavior was much more of an amazing, rare feat to pull off than any sex that resulted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/15 08:02 PM |
| 2 | Is it me or do a lot of field reports seem like fanfictions?I believe every word of it. Simple cause and effect. This guy knows how to ride on the edge between being offensive and attractive, which is the fastest way there is to build attraction. What part seems unlikely? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/15 09:44 AM |
| 3 | TRPers: What do you like about women that is not sexual?They are good with efficiency ideas, motivation, organization, social skills and people management. And a lot of them work perpetually like machines, so for low-level management and multi-tasking physical work, they are the best there is. When you walk into a fast food restaurant, and see all women, you know you're going to eat fast. If you see all guys, you know you're going to be there a while. They'll get to it eventually. Guys are always thinking about stuff, so they're better suited for job… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/15 09:18 AM |
| -1 | are modern day women victims of feminism?Oh, I get it - you're basing it all on popularity. Just go with the flow, eh? If you saw some people beginning to cross the street, would you cross it also or would you use your own judgement? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/15 10:22 PM |
| 0 | are modern day women victims of feminism?I'm not the one trying to talk men and women out of their gender, or interfering with their roles of survival. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/15 01:48 AM |
| 1 | What exactly are the core beliefs you'd have to agree with in order to identify as a RedPiller ?Feminist propaganda happened , that's all . What's happened is it has replaced everything else. The feminist propaganda schools are the only schools available, and the only culture they teach. So if you ask a girl who just graduated high school or college to make a list of roles or cultures she's interested in....."wife" would not even make it on the list. Throughout her 17 years of intense studies and classes designed to prepare her for life, the one thing that is most important to her evolutio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/15 01:19 AM |
| 1 | are modern day women victims of feminism?What type of behavior do you think you came from? We are all the product of nonsymmetrical sexist behavior. (One gender parent fucked the shit out of the other gender parent.) If your father had treated your mother as an equal, she wouldn't have gotten pregnant. He certainly wouldn't want anybody jamming their member inside his body, so if he respected her as an equal, he would have shown her the same respect. Instead he defiled her in the worst way, using her like a fuck toy for his own pleasur… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/15 12:27 AM |
| 2 | What exactly are the core beliefs you'd have to agree with in order to identify as a RedPiller ?But what's the difference? Equal and = means same. Equality is just equal+ity. Sameness. Equal rights then became to equal to a man, which then became no longer equal to a woman. I am trying to understand it myself, but that seems to be exactly what happened. How did women go from permission to be equal to no longer being equal to what they were? Does permission change a person that drastically? Or is it that giving equality led to getting rid of gender, which ended up unintentionally getting ri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/15 09:00 AM |
| 0 | are modern day women victims of feminism?Feminism is anti-sexism/anti-sexual. But since humans are the product of sexual unions between non-symmetrical (sexist) genders, that means that feminism is anti-human, as it seeks to destroy our only method of reproduction by eliminating the concept of gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/15 05:44 AM |
| 5 | are modern day women victims of feminism?Except that sexism is what we are and how we got here. So ending sexism is basically just ending ourselves. We weren't born as "unisex persons", or born to any "unisex persons", so pretending to be "unisex persons" is just ignoring what we are. What happens when you ignore what you are? You no longer are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/15 05:30 AM |
| 1 | [FR] Caught off guard, let my frame slip, killed attraction, couldn't close.What is with guys who are so focused on "frame" that they fold all their cards if somerhing doesn't go perfectly in their mind? It's your frame- if you drop it or it breaks, just pull out another one. It's like watching cartoons, you can break frame a million times and keep coming back to life. The only way your frame can die is if you stop providing it/directing it. Whenever something bad happens to the frame you can just pull out your mental remote and say "this sucks, change it". You only los… | /r/TheRedPill | 29/07/15 02:46 AM |
| 1 | What do you think about equal rights ?Yes, Muslims in the past had no birth control, just like everybody else. But the multiplied like rabbits unlike everybody else. There were originally no Muslim countries. It was just a band of people following Mohommed. But whenever they moved into a new town they would multiply exponentially and quickly become the majority of the population. You've never noticed the connection between happy and productive? Or noticed an unhappy employee is not very productive? Life is a lot of work and so it re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/15 10:55 PM |
| 4 | What exactly are the core beliefs you'd have to agree with in order to identify as a RedPiller ?It's the belief in gender differences and specialization, which is the opposite of gender equality. Before being RP'd these men believed in equality, which implied an interchangeable sameness of the sexes. After they take the pill, they suddenly realize that their belief in interchangeability had been their biggest mistake all along, and that it had been the main reason for their failed relationships and lack of interest from women. They realize that treating women as equals had been undermining… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/15 08:13 PM |
| 1 | What do you think about equal rights ?I went looking and brought up some graphs by searching for divorce rates by Google images. They show that before they had the right to vote, the annual divorce rate was under 5% of marriages. After getting the right to vote it jumped to 10%. Then when full equality kicked in in the 70's it jumped again to over 20%, which is where it has remained. Going from 4% before 1900 to 20% a year was a five-fold increase in divorces. That's a lot of unhappy people voting with their feet. Of courses, equali… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/15 06:12 PM |
| 1 | What do you think about equal rights ?Well, that's great for you, but if feminism destroys half the families out there, it's not so great for them. Plus the other third of women who find themselves childless in their 40s. It quietly steered them wrong and left them with nothing to show for it. Feminism is a slow-moving holocaust. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/15 09:10 AM |
| 1 | What do you think about equal rights ?Women typically choose whatever society recommends. Trouble is, if you make "equality to a man" available, society chooses that to recommend to women (force-feed in schools) which prevents it from being a choice. Every class of every grade in school is focused completely on their professional independence. There is no mention of being a girlfriend, wife or mother, let alone how to be one. It's like the female gender and its roles have been erased completely from their awareness and upbringing. H… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/15 01:01 AM |
| 1 | What do you think about equal rights ?Why were your grandparents "majorly" fucked up? Most people's grandparents and great-grandparents stayed married. Most people today do not stay married. Your aunts were victims of the clash between feminism and church. I suspect feminism taught them to be miserable by giving them unrealistic, unresolvable expectations. Once that had happened, the church's advice was unhelpful because their marriages had already been destroyed. Church was designed to prepare people for marriage. Feminism is desig… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/15 12:19 AM |
| 4 | There is no such thing as a woman who doesn't require Red Pill strategies.Knowing about women's programming, I understood she would be breaking up with me soon. Knowing what was coming... She broke up with me three days later. Careful what you wish for. If you're expecting the worst, you're basically laying down the track for that train to come in. Outcome independence? Abundance? You're right, you still gotta play the game. "Thanks, put it over there with all the others." A Chinese man once told me: never apologize to a woman. I wonder if there are any exceptions, su… | /r/TheRedPill | 26/07/15 05:01 AM |
| 1 | What do you think about equal rights ?I'm just talking about the problem, not what to do about it. The only thing we can do is try to correct it for young girls going forward. But for current teens and adults, it's already been done. I'm don't know how we can help them, other than telling them "oops, sorry." That pretty much everything they've been told about gender was wrong, and that humans actually had it right the first time, and that church was a much more accurate model for happiness and survival, and that going to church was … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/15 03:58 AM |
| 1 | What do you think about equal rights ?and a female panda has a vagina and a uterus. But at least the panda is smart enough not to try to switch genders and be equal to a male panda. If there's already someone occupying the right to be a male, you don't need the right to be one too. Equal rights to a male is the same as equal rights be a male, and equal rights to switch gender and assume the male role. Equal right to pee standing up. Equal right to wear short hair, overalls, and work boots. Equal right to be the asker, the marryer th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/15 12:33 AM |
| 1 | What do you think about equal rights ?Equal rights...to be what? A man? A panda? Koala bear? A woman can try to assume any role in the animal kingdom, but if her choice takes her away from being a good wife and mother, then the only thing she's going to be equal to is a person who won the Darwin Award for gender self-destruction. I don't think you can separate equal rights from equal to. People become what they are told they are, and what they are told they have a right to become. If we raise young girls to think of themselves as eq… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/15 10:51 PM |
| 0 | You gotta take what you want .I'm a great believer in positivity also, which should be the default whenever there is room for it after earning someone's respect. But in this case, being positive is not enough on its own (not that that was implied). "Fun and exciting" for a girl is strengthening her position with you, and strengthening her position in society. His "Dread game" provided his girl with communication on how she could strengthen her position with him. And being seen talking with other girls would have showcased hi… | /r/TheRedPill | 25/07/15 10:24 PM |
| 2 | What do you think about equal rights ?Equal. But equal to what? If a woman tried to be equal to a panda, it wouldn't end very well for her because her digestive tract isn't designed for eating bamboo. And her family would miss her terribly because being a panda would mean she's not being a woman, and so she would be off in the jungles of China rather than being around for her family. I think having equal rights as men is basically saying and teaching them that they are the same as men. It makes women feel equal to men, which leads t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/15 08:52 PM |
| 0 | How is feminism going to get me laid?That's a good argument for a straw...person/straw-warrior but I think most of the people here pretty much agree with you. Here's one for the other side: Feminism has provided us with an infinite supply of single women (stadium-fulls) by cutting off their ability to get married, stay married, or have a family. So they are left wandering aimlessly though life as broken-family, lost-soul relationship refugees. You'll see victims of the femnicaust everywhere you go; You can't go anywhere without bum… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/15 02:53 AM |
| 1 | What does it mean that women should be led by men ?That is true also. An example of a seemingly false question: Girl: "I'm upset about my boyfriend". Friend: "Did he hit you?" Now the friend knows he probably didn't hit her, so it's sort of a false question. But by being an extreme scenario, it might make the truth seem mild in comparison, helping to draw it out. Or by being an extreme boundary, it might draw out the answer by providing a reference point to build off of: "No he didn't hit me, but he grabbed me and raised his voice".' Without bui… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/15 12:16 AM |
| 1 | What does it mean that women should be led by men ?MLK is trying to lead them on their hopes and ideals, while the shitty car salesman is trying to lead them on his own hopes and ideals. The fresh from the seminar manager is tying to lead the employees toward his hopes and ideals of gaining control, while the natural leader is trying to lead the other employees toward the company's hopes and ideals, as well as their own, leaving his own as an afterthought. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/15 10:59 PM |
| 1 | What does it mean that women should be led by men ?Both MLK and the shitty car salesman are trying, but only one is succeeding. You're calling MLK "are" because he succeeds at leading. But you can't succeed without trying. You can't become influential without trying to be influential. MLK can't even step up on the podium without trying to step up on the podium. He might trip, but he usually succeeds. While speaking he might "trip" but he tries to stay on point in order to be influential. But there are many ways he can fail and many obstacles for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/15 08:06 PM |
| 3 | What does it mean that women should be led by men ?No, she's doing it right. It just seems very tedious because it is being done methodically. But the way she is doing it is the only way possible. You have to continually state state things the wrong way in order to establish a network of boundaries for cornering and squeezing out accurate answers. And so it's going to seem like she's asking questions that have already been answered, or asking them in a way that seems like she already knows the answer. It's a hassle but that's the only way you ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/15 07:33 PM |
| 1 | What does it mean that women should be led by men ?If marriage is a romantic relationship that builds a family, and family creates life, then family comprises all aspects of life. So the answer is within a relationship, which means within a family, which comprises all aspects of life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/15 07:10 PM |
| 1 | What does it mean that women should be led by men ?I think you're referring to being influential. But you have to decide to be influential, rather than conformal. And deciding to be influential is the same as deciding to make decisions for other people's lives. So, whether you are doing that or being that, isn't it the same thing? Maybe the only difference is whether someone does a poor job of carrying it out, causing people to see through their intentions. Maybe they come across as trying to be a leader (trying to gain control) instead of just … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/15 06:58 PM |
| 1 | What does it mean that women should be led by men ?If voting led to the destruction of family, then that's one decision that shouldn't have been made. Voting>Equality>Gender homogenization>Loss of gender>loss of family because it was built on gender. If your gender is your sexuality, and your sexuality is your system for reproduction, then eliminating gender eliminates reproduction. If nobody wants to play the part of girl, then there won't be any girls to play the part of wife, and there won't be any wives to play the part of mother. Roles are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/15 06:34 PM |
| 6 | What does it mean that women should be led by men ?What she's doing is methodically asking a lot of intelligent, precise, scientific-level questions, and often re-phrasing them in order to try and get a clearer answer. Each time she asks in a different way, it represents another new angle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/15 05:52 PM |
| 1 | Why do people think the technologically advanced society will collapse if we go our own way ?I think it started with wealthy families sending their kids to school longer and longer because they could afford the extravagance, then the middle class followed suit thinking more is better and then people decided that everyone's kids should get the same education and made it the law, and sent out truent officers to arrest any kids or parents with kids who are not in school. Now that I think about it, it seems more of an issue of freedom erosion through voting, so that would happen in any demo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/15 05:00 PM |
| 1 | Why do people think the technologically advanced society will collapse if we go our own way ?Yeah, that's one of the dumbest things humans have ever done: turning their biggest asset into their biggest liability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/15 04:18 AM |
| 1 | Why do people think the technologically advanced society will collapse if we go our own way ?Well, that is interesting. Sounds like it must be a phenomenon. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/15 04:06 AM |
| 1 | Why do people think the technologically advanced society will collapse if we go our own way ?Are you referring to friends you observed (who couldn't hang out because they were working overtime) or employees who's willingness to work overtime mattered to you as an employer? I would think an employer would think of married workers as less likely to work overtime because they have so many other activities going on, while single workers would be more likely to work overtime because they have nothing else to do. That's what I observed over 10-20 people, which is not enough to be scientific. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/15 06:43 PM |
| 2 | What do you think about playing hard to get?She's still there, still waiting. Try it it on her and let me know how it goes. I would just say "Hey, I just realized that the reason you were having difficulty telling me when you will be free was because it would mean a lot more to you for me to tell you what day I want to see you." "We will find out what day that is, after I examine our schedules and go over what you already have planned, and what I already have planned and then we will make plans for us to get together." (This is a bit of a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/15 06:29 PM |
| 1 | Why do people think the technologically advanced society will collapse if we go our own way ?Socrates complained about his wife. Just like women complain about TRP/what's best for them. What people say they want, and what makes them stronger are two different things. I'd say Socrates came out pretty strong, and that is all the proof we need. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/15 03:38 AM |
| 1 | Why do people think the technologically advanced society will collapse if we go our own way ?I don't think men can be as innovative, creative, or motivated on their own. Ever notice how married men's incomes are nearly always higher? The Teslas are the exception not the rule. Notice how he always came up short in business? I am certain Tesla would have achieved a lot more if he had had a strong team at home, and it would have helped him build stronger teams in business. Women aren't just for decoration and social skills aren't just for partying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/15 03:29 AM |
| 3 | What do you think about playing hard to get?A date is man-to-woman. It is something the man does to the woman and the woman receives/accepts from the man, and something she goes along with. The dillemma is that you need to know when she is free, but she doesn't want to be the one to pick the time or day of the date, because then it wouldn't represent what you want, and it wouldn't feel like it is "from you". So it becomes a guessing game. One way around that is to ask her when she is working, and then deduce when she is free. Then issue y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/15 08:28 PM |
| 1 | TRP Example In 4 Year OldsHard to tell. Could be respect from his drawing boundaries. Could be due to the feeling of closeness after going through strong emotional turmoil with him. Or it could just be she was just going with the flow. By being more forceful about it, Cuba demonstrated that he wanted a turn more than the others. He put more pressure on the girl. So when the girl decided to relent due to pressure from the teacher, she might have chosen Cuba in order to release the highest pressure situation. She knew Cuba… | /r/TheRedPill | 19/07/15 07:04 PM |
| 1 | Playing with fireI think he was just wanting to trace your original thought process, in order to get more meaning from it. If he was being critical, he wouldn't have cared what the original word was. Maybe it originally read "An heuristic" and you added pragmatic. | /r/TheRedPill | 19/07/15 06:24 PM |
| 1 | What is your opinion about /r/TheRedPill subreddit ?You didn't specify- opinion in reference to what? Compared to other subreddits? Compared to other mansphere sites? Compared to pickup? Compared to other discussions? There has to be a reference point in order for a there to be an opinion. Otherwise it just is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/15 01:36 AM |
| 2 | What is your opinion about /r/TheRedPill subreddit ?TRP is actually a pretty catchy name because it plays on people's desire to become aware of anything in their lives they were previously unaware of. If they just named it "Gender Awareness", nobody would show up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/15 06:07 PM |
| 1 | I Want to Be Single -- But With YouGreat find! Are you starting to think being a plate is the ultimate level for a woman? The most solid foundation for happiness? I always assumed their ultimate position was being a queen in a power couple. But being a plate might imply the man is even more powerful than the man in the power couple. Which situation implies the man is a leader in the community? The power couple. But on the other hand, which situation implies the man would have been the warlord leader in ancient times? That's the u… | /r/TheRedPill | 18/07/15 05:17 PM |
| 2 | 50 Shades of Red - Wisdom for Men About Womenand a man no longer sacrifices, love is lost. It is a delicate balance, for respect is lost when either fails in their capacity. Man sacrifices, woman admires, that is love.” Great post and well-put, but what do you mean by "sacrifices?" That's like her wanting you to stay home from a business trip, or night out with the buds. Making those kinds of sacrifices isn't going to add any value, that's just lowering your value. | /r/TheRedPill | 17/07/15 07:54 PM |
| 0 | New content policies of Reddit.And Islam is described as the most misogynistc/bigoted religion. Still it's never going to be a target because their intent is to live better, not harass people. Capitalism is described as the most oppressive ecconomic system. | /r/TheRedPill | 17/07/15 07:27 PM |
| 2 | Are RedPill marriages harmful and manipulative?How is behaving in a way someone finds attractive- abuse? We would love for women to do that "to" us. Secretly trying to dress sexier, secretly trying to build up our egos....bring it on! That would enhance our lives a lot more. Oh, you want women to assume the male-side of the interaction? Why in the world would you want that? They aren't males, so monkeying around with relative positions would just mess up the interaction. It's a gender interaction. You can't just whimsically flip sides or way… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/15 06:58 PM |
| 2 | Are RedPill marriages harmful and manipulative?"resigned"? It's the realization that you are the tailback because you are the smallest, most nimble player on the team. Sure you can try to play on the line, but you'll be much happier and much more productive playing the position your body is designed for. That's just being smart. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/15 06:37 PM |
| 1 | RP, how do you feel about knowing that reddit may shut you down?Sexism and misogyny has wrought enormous damage to humanity throughout the ages. Yeah, and look at the population explosion that occurred from it. We certainly wouldn't want to damage the world with all the families and kids that would result if those dangerously effective gender roles were allowed to take hold again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/15 07:42 AM |
| 2 | Women want you to fill their head with stuff. Make sure it is to your advantage.She could not stop smiling or giggling at me. I was kind of surprised at this. I didn't think anything of it. That's why we need to plan for these situations. If you're not ready for it, a girl like this is going to pop up in your day and streak right by you like a fastball. By the time you woke up to what was going on, she had already given up on you and passed judgement. You gotta have your glove out, feet shoulder width apart, knees bent, and be ready to catch these situations right when they… | /r/TheRedPill | 17/07/15 07:14 AM |
| -1 | New content policies of Reddit.The sites they are targeting are ones that are directly hateful. What they mean is anything that intentionally harasses, bullies, or abuses an individual or group of people. Note the intent must be to harass. Trying to get plates, or gain a foothold in a dying relationship is a completely different thing. That's trying to get a girlfriend, not trying harass a girl. See the difference? Fatpeoplehate and coontown weren't trying to get a fat girlfriend or make a few black friends. They were trying … | /r/TheRedPill | 17/07/15 06:53 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women enforce strict/narrow gender roles in relationships more than men do. Also, is society feminized or masculinized?Your children are a part of you, but they're a part of someone else too. Your compost becomes a part of the plants. Your body becomes a part of the creatures that feed upon it. All you're transferring is a pattern a rolling wave. But perhaps Bill Gates did that with Windows. So whether he transfers his pattern of DNA or DOS, maybe it's the same thing. Only the alignment of the pattern exists. On the other hand, we're programmed to be happiest when we have offspring. An interesting exercise would… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/15 12:03 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women enforce strict/narrow gender roles in relationships more than men do. Also, is society feminized or masculinized?What I mean is anything you build will eventually be torn down or disintegrate, but your offspring will continue on. But the tougher question is, what is our offspring, and do they represent a form of us, or is it just no different than piss going down the toilet, or hair and fingernail clippings going into the trash? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/15 10:27 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women enforce strict/narrow gender roles in relationships more than men do. Also, is society feminized or masculinized?It's the only thing you can build that will last. And the only form you can continue to live on in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/15 07:21 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women enforce strict/narrow gender roles in relationships more than men do. Also, is society feminized or masculinized?I'm just interested in the scientific aspects of it all. But this new realization does change the way I view religion, as I no longer see it as just another interesting cultural activity to do on a weekend. Sorry, forgot to address world population. But from who's point of view? The world's? Survivors kids? The non-religious non-survivors? The non-survivors lose anyway, but that's because they failed. Would you sacrifice your family so other families can survive? It's hard to predict what's goin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/15 04:45 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women enforce strict/narrow gender roles in relationships more than men do. Also, is society feminized or masculinized?How are they dumb for not wanting to follow barbaric concepts of survival? How did religion wind up blanketing nearly the entire population? It's covered the population so thoroughly, I bet there isn't anyone with an unbroken family line of non-religion. Religion would be way too costly of a burden for people to bear if it didn't have any benefits. Cutting off 1 day of the week for the rest of your life is like cutting off 3 of your total fingers and toes. A huge waste of focus and drag on your … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/15 01:57 AM |
| 1 | Husband does everything wife claims to want, Wife takes off one day saying "I'll be back" and never returns.Yeah, it's hard to feel like you need a girl if you don't know if she exists. There are some really cool ones out there. Smart, playful, and a lot of fun. But not knowing which ones they are, it's easy to assume none of them are. | /r/TheRedPill | 15/07/15 04:09 AM |
| 1 | Husband does everything wife claims to want, Wife takes off one day saying "I'll be back" and never returns.The advice I'm giving about talking yourself up to girls is directed at myself also, because I've never been good about talking about myself either. But I know that celebrating accomplishments is one of the most important aspects of of an accomplishment. Relative Existence: If an accomplishment isn't noticed by you or anyone else, then it doesn't exist. Awareness is one of the most important requirements for something to exist. You know your pencil exists because you are aware of it. But if we t… | /r/TheRedPill | 15/07/15 02:26 AM |
| 1 | Husband does everything wife claims to want, Wife takes off one day saying "I'll be back" and never returns.You don't have to change your interests or qualifications, you just need to be able to express the ones you have. Just like Jethro from the Beverly Hillbillies would run around declaring to everyone he "done gradgiated the sixth grade!" He'd say it with so much energy and enthusiasm, he made it sound like it was the coolest thing ever, and so chicks would still go for it. When a girl hears something that sounds a little off, she bypasses the content and cues off the tone attitude and delivery. T… | /r/TheRedPill | 14/07/15 02:40 AM |
| 1 | Husband does everything wife claims to want, Wife takes off one day saying "I'll be back" and never returns.That's a good point for us to consider. But how is it shallow? It's about being able to be proud of who you are, and what you are in the community. If you're a member of a community, you already occupy a position in the community. You're already the guy who lives there on that street, who does that as a profession, has that as a hobby, and has those as his skills. You're the guy who went to that school, has those friends, took that program, traveled to those locations, and made those accomplishm… | /r/TheRedPill | 13/07/15 10:54 PM |
| 3 | Husband does everything wife claims to want, Wife takes off one day saying "I'll be back" and never returns.(Added above) The rule of thumb for SMV is how would it sound to the community. Buying a new house, buying a boat, taking her on a trip, or to a high-class show would sound impressive. Cooking, helping out with the housework and taking out the trash would sound unimpressive. | /r/TheRedPill | 12/07/15 03:21 PM |
| 3 | Why do TRPillers dismiss the idea that women not taking responsibility of their actions might be a result of our culture ?What kind of actions were you referring to? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/15 04:14 AM |
| 4 | Why do TRPillers dismiss the idea that women not taking responsibility of their actions might be a result of our culture ?Emotions are subject to context and thus can be retroactive. So, when a girl realizes the guy was not interested in a relationship and just wanted to assault her, all the previously okay things he "did to me" get switched to negative emotions. "Every time he touched me...ewwww gross it was awful." She says that now because it seems like it was from her point of view now. What she's saying is that if she had known he wasn't interested in a relationship, she would have felt that way about what he … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/15 03:31 AM |
| 38 | Husband does everything wife claims to want, Wife takes off one day saying "I'll be back" and never returns.It's not a transaction, so no matter what you do for her, it doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is her evaluation of your SMV rank in society. Does cooking enhance your SMV rank in society? No. Does taking out the trash enhance your SMV rank in society? No. Does bringing her flowers enhance your SMV rank in society? No. Does listening to her concerns enhance your SMV rank in society? No. Does doing anything she asks enhance your SMV rank in society? No. The only behaviors they value are… | /r/TheRedPill | 11/07/15 08:30 PM |
| -2 | Unintentional dread... Things get interesting.It's like getting applause. Value doesn't exist without measurement. | /r/TheRedPill | 11/07/15 08:22 PM |
| 1 | RP Men, would you want your GF/Wife to dread you when she's unhappy with the your behavior?If your wife wants you to focus on what you value in your relationship with her, then finding a way to get you to do that would be healthy for the relationship and would be good for both of you...because it's a relationship. What's good for one side, is good for both because they both value the strength of the relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/15 03:56 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men and Women experience very different kinds of sexual frustration.Haha, nailed it. Complaining about women holding out for someone who is attractive is like complaining about men for holding out for someone who is attractive. Women just have higher standards because historically, they had to choose very wisely because they could only choose one. Reminds me of when guys say the mind-numbingly redundant "Be attractive. Don't be unattractive" when discussing how to [attract] girls. Really? If you were already attractive, you wouldn't be discussing how to becomes … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/15 03:44 PM |
| 1 | Why don't TRPillers admit that dread game works on a lot of men too ?I just posted a little higher in this thread my strongest argument yet on how "dread game" is not coercion, and is just about getting people to focus on what they value. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/15 03:09 PM |
| 1 | Why don't TRPillers admit that dread game works on a lot of men too ?If it's done to strengthen the relationship, then it's good for both parties of the relationship. A relationship is like two magnets sticking together. If you increase the attraction of one side, you're still strengthening the bond between them. If one side feels that is needed, they are not lying, they are saying it is necessary. Nobody is going to try to improve a relationship unless they think it needs improving. And finally, it's not coercion to draw attention to the way someone values somet… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/15 03:02 PM |
| 1 | The Internet Stud PlayboyWow! Took me a long time to figure that out. And what is funny is when a girl is screamingly beautiful, she can't see it at all. It's like they're completely blind in that regard and have to rely on you to tell them. I learned from various girlfriends and from watching a few girls judge themselves in the mirror on YouTube. Their luscious legs just look like ordinary legs in the mirror. I remember seeing one studying the beautiful curvature of her hips and perfect ass in the mirror and saying to … | /r/TheRedPill | 11/07/15 01:30 AM |
| 1 | The Internet Stud PlayboyThe wrestling girl is stunningly beautiful... ...to him. (haha) I would rate her at a 5. It's so funny that most guys think that every guy sees their oneitis the same way they do. He doesn't realize beauty is a relative term between the two of them and she is only beautiful because of him. Without him, she's just there. | /r/TheRedPill | 10/07/15 10:26 PM |
| 1 | The Coming SJW DystopiaAfter carefully analyzing all the details in the video, I have come to the conclusion that the movie sucks. And to your point, it does look like it is intended to feed the social justice/gender annihilation trolls. | /r/TheRedPill | 10/07/15 10:06 PM |
| 1 | The Weak Adapt to the Strong...Great example. Ballroom dancing might be proof that two people cannot move in unison without one adapting to the other. If they both try to lead, they will just collide repeatedly until they eventually give up. | /r/TheRedPill | 10/07/15 09:23 PM |
| 2 | The Weak Adapt to the Strong...Adapt. That's the word I was looking for. Men and women can't adapt to each other, because that would cancel out. Adapt only goes one-way. Female adapts to male. Her only settings are adapt/don't adapt. Adapt to his approach. Adapt to his asking her out. Adapt to his phone call. Adapt to the day, time, and venue of the date. Adapt to his touch. Adapt to his escalation. Adapt to timing and location of all future dates/get togethers. Or don't. That's it. Every female operates with those two settin… | /r/TheRedPill | 10/07/15 05:59 PM |
| 2 | The Weak Adapt to the Strong...Expect the woman to want something from you, to have her look up to you and admire you. This is how you put her in the Adaptive Frame. On the other hand, approaching a woman respectfully puts YOU in the adaptive frame. So, you need to approach her like a tree approaching a squirrel. You block her way (tree trunk in her path), but offer her another way(branch to climb). Examples: "Stop". "You and I are going this way". "Put down that water. Have a sip of a real drink". "What are you doing? Come w… | /r/TheRedPill | 10/07/15 05:38 PM |
| 2 | The Weak Adapt to the Strong...Need a word for that since it's exactly what's going on in all the retroactive rapes you hear about. With a change of context, all of her past emotional switches suddenly flip the other way. Context Switching: A woman's emotions are tied directly to the context of the relationship. So, if the context ever changes in the future (she finds out later she was just Mike Tyson/Kobe Bryant's one night stand), all her receptive emotional memories switch over to rejection emotional memories, and so every… | /r/TheRedPill | 10/07/15 05:03 PM |
| 3 | How being beta saved me from impregnating a slut (My experience with my first "plate")The biggest mistake I saw was you tried to escalate, and then when she resisted you REWARDED HER with more attention. Should have ended the night there. "Welp, it's getting late. Yeah-yeah-yeah. I had a good time too. Uh-huh. Me too. Goodnight!" | /r/TheRedPill | 10/07/15 03:21 PM |
| 1 | Question for BP: When is the right time and context for a man to approach a woman?I don't think complimenting a woman adds any value to your SMV with her. In fact most compliments actually lower your SMV by setting up the wrong type of frame. That's because after going through that routine so many times with guys before, she associates compliments with betas "trying-hard" to get her to like them. So, by giving her a compliment, you just screened yourself for her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/15 10:31 PM |
| 1 | I need help. I think I'm fucked up inside. I've been browsing this sub for three years, and I've made zero progress.Play with them. If they were bunnies, would you sit back and worry about what they think of you? Or would you try to pick them up, cuddle with them and stroke their hair? Some might bite but so what, just put them back and try another one. You don't take it personally and you don't let one bunny speak for all the others, because you know some of them are going to be nice and cuddly and will sit in your lap. But bunnies don't pick themselves up, so you have to try to pick them up in order to find… | /r/seduction | 09/07/15 09:32 PM |
| 2 | The Beta Bux Guide On How NOT To Get LaidStick around TRP and you'll have things turned around by Christmas. | /r/TheRedPill | 09/07/15 08:01 AM |
| 2 | Why is saying "Hi" considered street harassment?Just realized I know exactly how it feels because it's the same as being approached by salespeople and bums. I tell them "no thanks" before they even get their first word in. Had one guy say "But you don't even know what I was going to say". "Yes I do, - already heard it a hundred times before". "No thanks" "Sorry I'm in a hurry" "Have a good day" It's the perfect phrase because they can't go anywhere with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/15 04:44 AM |
| 0 | Is beating women always "loss of frame" ?Fun fact: Chickens are eaten by people from all walks of life because they don't put up much of a fight. They practically serve themselves! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/15 04:01 AM |
| 1 | Why is saying "Hi" considered street harassment?What's it like having hundreds of guys asking you out? Obviously you can't date any percentage of them because there are just too many and there's only one you. But what if some of them are really awesome? Do you feel jerked around by having so many choices getting thrown at you? Or does it just overload and you just have to tune them all out good or bad since you don't know enough about them to know whether or not you just dismissed someone who would have been your perfect match? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/15 03:06 AM |
| 1 | Is beating women always "loss of frame" ?Racism isn't designed for attracting minorities. It's intended for not getting along with minorities. TRP is for getting along with women by having each assume your biological gender roles. It's how men and women fit together. It's the only way men and women fit together. What, you don't believe in gender? You don't believe humans are split into genders for a reason? You don't believe in gender specialization? So, if you had a football team, you would just make everybody on the team quarterbacks… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/15 07:07 AM |
| 3 | Is beating women always "loss of frame" ?Haha, no I don't categorize women. TRP concepts are true for nearly all of them - somewhere around 90-99% percent of them. You might be different, but I strongly doubt it. What we have here is a large gap between how you think you would feel and how you would feel. This is very common and it's just a dirty trick Mother Nature plays on us. Women tell us exactly what they want, and what we've learned from comparing notes is if we follow what they say to a T, we lose all their attraction. So, it pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/15 05:58 AM |
| 1 | Is beating women always "loss of frame" ?Keeping a women in line means keeping her in line with her gender role. On TRP this is done only through attraction. All that "misogyny" is for building attraction. That's it. That's all it's for. It's designed around what women want. Women are the customer. TRP is the product. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/15 05:10 AM |
| 2 | Is beating women always "loss of frame" ?I know it doesn't seem like it would build attraction when you think of it that way, but according to all the field reports, that's exactly what it does. Seeing women attracted to your guy DOES build attraction. Withholding emotional affection DOES build attraction. Thinking women want to take your guy away DOES build attraction. And remember, attraction does not mean satisfaction. It's actually the opposite. But it does bring a sense of happiness, a sense of moving forward. Satisfaction just le… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/15 04:22 AM |
| 1 | Is beating women always "loss of frame" ?No it's the other way around. Feminism is about disregarding your gender and trying to be something you're not. You can pretend to be a koala bear, or a "person" but it's not going to work because you're still what you are on the inside. (Male/female) The result of culturally-induced gender homogenization is the inability of couples to fit together and total destruction of the family (which was dependent on gender roles) and plummeting birth rates of a failed culture. Feminism/Equality gets the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/15 03:49 AM |
| 2 | Is beating women always "loss of frame" ?"Dread" game works because it builds attraction, not because it causes dread. Nobody would want a woman to have sex with them out of dread. That would be dreadful. TRP guys want attraction. They're just using the wrong word. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/15 03:44 AM |
| 1 | Is beating women always "loss of frame" ?I think they consider it a shock/horror term, so having its presence in any context risks drawing the association. People don't always read all the words in order and some tend to lock on to certain words and form sentences of their own. If they didn't know what "frame" was, they wouldn't be able to tell if the context of the title is positive or negative. eg: "Loss of...resistance?" Violence is a felony, so it would be like talking about pulling out a gun to assert your dominance and busting a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/15 01:47 AM |
| 1 | Is beating women always "loss of frame" ?Another excellent question- You should be an attorney. TRP is a gender realization attraction strategy. The techniques are for building respect and attraction in relationships. Violence, cursing or raising your voice only happens when you lose control of the situation. Since it indicates a loss of self control and a loss of frame, it is a losing indicator. A complete failure of being redpill. Violence in a relationship is like robbing a liquor store because you lost your job. It's committing a f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/15 12:22 AM |
| 1 | Guys who were never good at "talking" their whole life, how did you change/improve?People tend to roll forward, not backward, so keep that in mind when talking to them. Some questions back them up, such as where are you from? This is the type of question that is something they can't change or choose because it's in the past, and it's slightly judgemental so it might make them a little defensive. It can be used for asking about the place, but it's not a good way to wind a person up unless you have a plan for using it as a jump-off base to get them into forward-thinking momentum… | /r/seduction | 07/07/15 02:50 PM |
| 1 | Guys who were never good at "talking" their whole life, how did you change/improve?Hmmm... that's an idea. Stack your comments with trigger-words. It's like tossing softballs for them to hit out of the park. Coffee, party, graduated, my mom, my brother/sister, my cousin, my best friend, horseback riding, skiing, hospital. | /r/seduction | 07/07/15 02:11 PM |
| 1 | FR, plus the three stages of courting a woman in today's age. Complete guide.Great. So, what have you been telling the other 9 girls? | /r/TheRedPill | 07/07/15 03:30 AM |
| 1 | FR, plus the three stages of courting a woman in today's age. Complete guide.When Saturday night comes, what do you say to the other 9 who are all asking you why you can't spend it with them? They're going to want a good answer because they all consider Saturday night to be "couple's night", and so they would really feel left out if you're not able to spend it with them. How do they explain to their friends when they're asked why they're alone on a Saturday night? "Where's your guy? I thought you said you had a guy." They're all going to get grilled on it, and so they're… | /r/TheRedPill | 07/07/15 03:14 AM |
| 0 | Red Pill in China - Same same, but differentWe're swimming in a sea of sluts because our family institution failed us here. So China doesn't have the same level of gender equality? | /r/TheRedPill | 07/07/15 02:46 AM |
| 1 | Why being a "Nice guy" is badThey're reading you, so they go by how you act, how you feel. | /r/TheRedPill | 07/07/15 02:12 AM |
| 2 | Why being a "Nice guy" is badLet's explore Charm: A smile that signals validation of respect. Like a dog wagging its tail, the movement of the tail communicates a positive feeling and the eyes indicate the direction of the validation field they're sending. The owner smiles proudly, having received the positive signal of respect from the dog. The dog receives the proud smile and a pat on the head as a fatherly validation. Proud smile>Respectful smile Proud masculine smile is done with eyes slightly squinted, leaning back. Re… | /r/TheRedPill | 06/07/15 11:30 PM |
| 5 | Why being a "Nice guy" is badBe friendly but not polite. Think of dealing with people as dealing with children. If you're overly polite and respectful to children, they will judge you as a chump and a wuss, and since they don't like either, they won't like you or respect you. Walk with a swagger and speak with the weight and momentum of a truck. People like trucks because they carry significance. But they tend to associate politeness and respect with insignificance. If you push someone up onto a pedestal, they will look dow… | /r/TheRedPill | 06/07/15 10:27 PM |
| 1 | What's wrong with Dread Game?It just has a bad name. You dread losing things you value, so you could just as easily call it "Value Game". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/15 05:26 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Women enforce strict/narrow gender roles in relationships more than men do. Also, is society feminized or masculinized?It's just a math problem. If you need 2.1 kids per woman to break even, and we're averaging 1.9, that's a 10% shortfall every generation. 100>90>81>73>66>59>53>48>43>39>35...etc., ending in zero. But that's not all humans. Just the dumb ones trying to disregard their gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/15 03:03 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women enforce strict/narrow gender roles in relationships more than men do. Also, is society feminized or masculinized?Their roles were necessary for their own survival, and the survival of their family. We don't know what they all encompassed, but becoming a professional and working for some company is at some level instead of fulfilling those roles. The result is nonreproduction. Birth rates are currently the lowest of all time. So ignoring their gender, and ignoring their roles is causing them to go extinct. (less than 2.1 children per female) The attempted equalization of polar sexes is a Darwin-level failur… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/15 02:03 AM |
| 5 | If you found out your wife was using some sort of lady game guide on you, how would you react?Good one. But you forgot one thing: gender To pretend to be equal to something else is to ignore the way you are. To make a true parallel, you would need to make it gender specific for what men like, since TRP is targeted to what women like. So, if a wife changes herself in a way that will make herself more attractive to her husband, that's actually a good thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/15 10:46 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Women enforce strict/narrow gender roles in relationships more than men do. Also, is society feminized or masculinized?(There's a -but- coming up at the end) Women are actually excellent workers and work more efficiently than men in light-task and multitask jobs. From my own observations, men will stop every few minutes and think of an idea, while women run more like machines that never stop until the task is finished or shift is over. They think of ideas while they're working, and so although they may not be in as deep of thought, they're better at thinking of ideas that matter at the moment. BUT: Just because … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/15 08:28 PM |
| 1 | Another reminder that the system will favor women over menSo, it's not just relative to another person, or to yourself like jerking when you forgot something, it can be relative to any situation. Sort of like twitching to duck a ball or smack a mosquito. So, it's always reactionary to a thought, or burst of frustration. Maybe it's related to reflexes like being tickled by a bug crawling up your leg. I have a friend who, when stressed, their right arm and right foot will lock up. Maybe that's just a continual twitch. But it's interesting that a twitch c… | /r/TheRedPill | 05/07/15 07:54 PM |
| 1 | Red Pillers : Why is my understanding of TRP wrong ?I love your natural curiosity. It is refreshing in a place where everyone else seems to have an agenda or be jaded in some way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/15 04:08 PM |
| 2 | Red Pill, what are your thoughts on "blue pill" success stories?I think they're probably red pill but don't realize it. It only matters if you're not that way. Red pillers are reformed betas. Blue pillers never were, so they don't understand the problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/15 02:36 PM |
| 1 | Another reminder that the system will favor women over menI noticed from watching youtube videos on tourettes that it seems to involve the sudden urge to shock someone in the room with words, or grab their attention. (or someone they're thinking about) It seems to be a relationship syndrome where it's always directed at someone. They don't seem to do it if nobody is around, unless they're thinking of someone or a group of people. Does reading this story makes you want to curse at someone, or chew them out? I think we all feel that, minus the twitches. … | /r/TheRedPill | 05/07/15 02:09 PM |
| 1 | Women Do Not Care About Your InterestsWell done. It's a shame that great articles like that drop off and never get mentioned again. I think Reddit should allow linking within reddit so people can join discussions like those, even if they aren't 1 day old. There's nothing magical about being recent. Women do not care about your interests or skills unless those interests will directly benefit their social standing. Unless she can tell her girlfriends about your skills and make them jealous... This is one of the biggest things women de… | /r/TheRedPill | 04/07/15 05:47 PM |
| 1 | [FR] Faced disrespect and held as much frame as possibleYou didn't show any interest, love, warmth, or desire, or take any steps forward. That's your role. You need to text her again and tell her to STFU and come on over for a pizza and a movie. "Why? Because I want you to. I'd rather talk in person. Because that's what I want. Doesn't matter, that's what I want." "You're just trying to combine two different things. Do you want to eat, or do you want to be with me? You can eat at home or here with me. I'm eating here. That's what I'm doing. You're we… | /r/TheRedPill | 03/07/15 07:21 PM |
| 1 | Concrete Steps to Ending the Male Gender RoleHow about we eliminate the role of human? We'll all pretend to be koala bears. Oh wait. That won't work because we're still what we are on the inside. Having men and women pretend to be "persons" is just as silly. You can't just disregard what you are on the inside. If you pretend your car is a boat, it's not going to float. It's just going to sink. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/15 06:26 PM |
| 1 | I assume many Bluepill subscribers agree that its bad to "put the pussy on a pedestal", what's the best way to explain that without going redpill?But I'm debating whether it is "wrongly". I think "Objectifying" packages it in a misleading way, making it seem bad when it really might be something good that's being presented as bad. "Exploit" runs into the same problem. Those mean, greedy factory owners are exploiting the helpless people who are willing to work for pennies a day. -or- Those sweet, benevolent factory owners are providing people with nothing a way out of their misery by giving them a higher-paying job with a prompt, reliable … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/15 04:06 PM |
| 1 | I assume many Bluepill subscribers agree that its bad to "put the pussy on a pedestal", what's the best way to explain that without going redpill?The objectifier treats the relationship.....__________________. But it's his relationship. His end is based on what he's willing to do. Who are we to criticize what he determines is best for him? It's like free market. People need to be free to decide what's best from their own point of view. To interfere would be to take away from them the ability to protect themselves. This happened during the New York, New Jersey Hurricane. People desperately needed gas, but the SJWs blocked anyone from stepp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/15 02:31 PM |
| 1 | On the front page: "LPT: If you are thinking about leaning in for the kiss, but you aren't quite sure if you'll be turned down, try touching or running your fingers through their hair"How about now, after seeing the potential? I would think there's a big advantage if you have a way to break the touch barrier. Most guys try to do it slowly, which winds up creepy, because that's what creepy means: creep up slowly. Moving slowly is what spiders, zombies, and AFC's have in common. | /r/TheRedPill | 03/07/15 05:59 AM |
| 0 | Men, even TRP men, love women very much.Then how come women are programmed to continually test their husband by pushing him into betaland, and then leave him if he fails the test? How come they stay happily married to the ones who pass the test? It's not some or half. It's all of them. I never met a woman who didn't do it. So, if they're all programmed to do it, it's because it's required for survival. It must be a common problem for men to wuss out at some point and risk the life of his family, or else women wouldn't have that built … | /r/TheRedPill | 03/07/15 05:04 AM |
| 1 | I assume many Bluepill subscribers agree that its bad to "put the pussy on a pedestal", what's the best way to explain that without going redpill?Bluepill people say "treat her like a human". That implies treat her like a (unisex) person, which further implies treat her no differently than a man. So, to treat her like a human is to treat her without regard to gender. Redpill treats women differently with respect to their gender. So what are some examples you had in mind where treating her like a human is a good thing, or will build a relationship? Or if you were you referring to ways to not treat her, what are examples of how not to treat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/15 09:39 PM |
| 1 | I assume many Bluepill subscribers agree that its bad to "put the pussy on a pedestal", what's the best way to explain that without going redpill?Not different, eh? So, I guess they think the same way and can be approached the same way? That's awesome, so I can just show a little leg, show a little nudity and I'm in? Oh, they wouldn't like that? So, they don't approach the topic of sex the same way? Got it. I'll just wait for her to make a move. Oh, what's that? They don't like making the first move either? Okay, so I'll just give her my number. Oh what's that? They don't like to be the one to call initially? Okay, I'll just suggest going… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/15 08:41 PM |
| 1 | I assume many Bluepill subscribers agree that its bad to "put the pussy on a pedestal", what's the best way to explain that without going redpill?What would be some examples of "treat her like a human, like a friend" to distinguish a redpill guy from a bluepill guy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/15 08:12 PM |
| 1 | I assume many Bluepill subscribers agree that its bad to "put the pussy on a pedestal", what's the best way to explain that without going redpill?What do you mean by "respect women"? What would be some specific examples besides generalities like treat them like a hu(man)? Or is that the point- to treat them without respect to gender? But "without respect" to gender means disrespecting their gender. So wouldn't -not treating them different- just be disrespecting their gender? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/15 08:03 PM |
| 0 | Men, even TRP men, love women very much.Women fell short of your expectations, that is true. But it was the expectations instilled in you that were wrong. Women of today are damaged goods because they were culturally raised to be the opposite of their natural alignment. So, what we have now is utter confusion. They don't know how to behave or how to be, and so the result is just a mess. But it's not their fault, it's how they were raised. If you had a daughter, and she married a man, and then over time he went through some tough times… | /r/TheRedPill | 02/07/15 05:39 PM |
| 0 | I've come to the conclusion that, I don't respect women.You don't respect them as men. Stop thinking of them as men. Their job isn't to be nice to you or be your friend. Their job is to help you become more competitive and successful. Think of them as high school coaches and trainers. Their job is to judge you, condition you with tough workouts by giving you a hard time, and push you toward success in life. | /r/TheRedPill | 02/07/15 03:12 PM |
| 1 | On the front page: "LPT: If you are thinking about leaning in for the kiss, but you aren't quite sure if you'll be turned down, try touching or running your fingers through their hair"I walked around a club and introduced myself to girls by walking straight to them, grabbing a fistful of their hair, pulling them towards me and saying something along the lines of "God the way you look makes me feel...so hot and bothered...I felt compelled to come talk to you" Lick her neck, kiss cheek, etc. Shock & Awe. That would probably tease the hell out of them. It gives them strong validation and then yanks it away when you move on to the next one. They're left not sure if you're jerking… | /r/TheRedPill | 02/07/15 02:53 PM |
| 2 | [FR] Alpha Widow's cuck, Alpha's POVOh, so she was seeing guys all along? Well, in that case, it wasn't a change in circumstances. Was it ever a LTR? I would be more interested what caused that to change, but you might not know when that was. I wonder if it corresponds to the first marathon. I've decided getting a girl off doesn't strengthen her attraction to you, it just strengthens her attraction to sex. Her attraction to you is based on how good of a prospect you are for raising a family. Giving her 1 extra orgasm doesn't chang… | /r/TheRedPill | 01/07/15 09:30 PM |
| 2 | [FR] Alpha Widow's cuck, Alpha's POVI wonder if there were other clues in the relationship, that made her more susceptible to being approached by the other guy. Usually sex is a good indicator, because her attraction is a measurement of how she feels. But what was she like other times? Did she seem just as happy and attracted as she was in the beginning? Or did she complain a lot? Did she make lots of requests and get mad at you for the ones you didn't fulfill? Did you set limits on her requests and her arguments (attractive), or … | /r/TheRedPill | 01/07/15 07:58 PM |
| 1 | Red Pillers : Why is my understanding of TRP wrong ?Since we were raised as unisex persons, we grew up without any gender identity, and so when we grew up, we each had no idea of how to interact with the opposite sex. And neither of us probably had a family model to learn from either. So, when I tried to interact with girls, I approached them completely the wrong way. I was unable to connect with them with respect to their gender polarity. And when guys approached you, they probably did it the wrong way also, and even with the ones you liked, you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/15 07:35 PM |
| 1 | Red Pillers : Why is my understanding of TRP wrong ?This is not a simple question, because if they were all on your level, it wouldn't be a problem. But, I think if we had stayed with the patriarchal society, then you and I would each have our own families, and there wouldn't have been any need for dating or TRP. It would have been a very different life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/15 01:12 AM |
| 1 | Red Pillers : Why is my understanding of TRP wrong ?So, what do you think? I think you have all the facts now, so I'm interested in knowing what you're going to do with them. You seem like the rare person who is able to bypass their own specialization, as well as the chains of social convention and is able to think very deeply conceptually and objectively. So, I'm sure it's hard for you to digest some of these things, knowing that a lot of them probably don't apply to you. I was thinking the other day about how TRP might be a powerful screen for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/15 12:46 AM |
| 1 | Red Pillers : Why is my understanding of TRP wrong ?We've raised a generation of women who are already aligned as independent persons. So, you can't make them that way, and then take it away from them. People are going to have to figure it out and decide what they think is best for their own daughters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/15 10:51 PM |
| 1 | Red Pillers : Why is my understanding of TRP wrong ?If we're each different specialists, then one is always going to be better than the other in each category because that's what specialization is. I think we should think of our genders as our left hand and our right hand. We don't use them to do the same things either. The circumstantial evidence makes it seem like voting is the problem because families were strong for thousands of years, and now (just in the voting countries) families are ripped apart and no longer able to exist. If that's the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/15 10:37 PM |
| 1 | Red Pillers : Why is my understanding of TRP wrong ?Women are designed to be very intelligent and good at making decisions for their role. But their thought processes are designed for what's best for that, but not necessarily what's best for other types of situations. The politicians they voted into office have passed a lot of laws that were intended to pander to their caring emotions - emotions that are good for her own family, but that lead to laws that create a terrible climate for people and families to live in. Women are highly-skilled speci… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/15 10:15 PM |
| 2 | [FR] Alpha Widow's cuck, Alpha's POVSometimes I notice little clues in these stories: all the kinky shit we did when we had recorded on my phone marathon BDSM sex in a hotel room for four hours the week before she "found" this guy. Something tells me that was the first time you ever did that with her, and the first time she ever "found" a new guy. Two first times in the same week. What are the odds of that? Hmmm...... Nothing is ever truly random. Life is a sequence of falling dominoes. Reminds me of the guy who had a three day ma… | /r/TheRedPill | 30/06/15 08:08 PM |
| 1 | The Vicious Cycle of Blue Pill FaggotryThat does sound scary. But isn't that the hardest part, being able to realize it's not real and learning not to trust those things? Most schizophrenics never seem to reach that point, and so I've been hoping to find a way to help them get there. That would give them a huge edge if they could do that, and then they could move to the "I see you but I choose to ignore you" stage like the guy did in A Beautiful Mind. How did the person you're referring to figure it out? | /r/TheRedPill | 30/06/15 06:03 PM |
| 1 | The Vicious Cycle of Blue Pill FaggotryWell I'm glad to hear that and I've learned some things from our discussion as well. I think it's 100% environmentally induced and so I suspect the internet is a big factor. | /r/TheRedPill | 30/06/15 05:36 PM |
| 1 | Germany's birth rate plummets. Germany now has the dubious honour of having the lowest birthrate in the world (lower than Japan).Yeah, we need to find another way in order to survive. Start a new country? | /r/TheRedPill | 30/06/15 05:52 AM |
| 1 | Germany's birth rate plummets. Germany now has the dubious honour of having the lowest birthrate in the world (lower than Japan).I think women are taught to feel bad about depending on a man because they're raised with men as unisex "persons", rather than being raised as women. And we can't really criticize them for not being submissive if they've never experienced it in their life or culture. So, the first issue is they've never been given a role, other than (person equal to a man). Well, if it's a gender role intended to compliment the man's role, it can't be equal to a man, because that would be competitive rather than… | /r/TheRedPill | 30/06/15 05:22 AM |
| 1 | Germany's birth rate plummets. Germany now has the dubious honour of having the lowest birthrate in the world (lower than Japan).Islam got big because it works so well, it overpopulates every country it invades. It's the ultimate people-making machine. | /r/TheRedPill | 30/06/15 04:26 AM |
| 1 | Germany's birth rate plummets. Germany now has the dubious honour of having the lowest birthrate in the world (lower than Japan).Just because you're skilled with a shovel, doesn't mean you should pick one up. | /r/TheRedPill | 30/06/15 04:15 AM |
| 1 | The Vicious Cycle of Blue Pill FaggotryIn your example, was that the origin of the choice for the word stone? That's simple enough: You associate the character with the quality, so they're both stored in the same region of your brain, and are interchangeable terms. So, that was a legitimate connection. They were two dots that were already connected. The other way would be somebody who is bored and just looks at a word they didn't write, and then tries to find something that matches. Sort of like playing solitaire with the things arou… | /r/TheRedPill | 30/06/15 03:12 AM |
| 1 | The Vicious Cycle of Blue Pill FaggotryI'm surprised you think of wordhacks as being in that spectrum. But come to think of it, my definition of schizophrenia is forcing connections between unrelated things, and so that would actually fit perfeliciously into my definition. Schizophrenia is a connecting the dots disease. They will take a coincidence, and turn it into a conspiracy. One dot is there was a person was in my room. The second dot is I can't find my pen. Jam them together and you have: You stole my pen! Another could be soun… | /r/TheRedPill | 30/06/15 12:28 AM |
| 1 | Do you like to argue? Do you need to be right? Then you're a Beta.I was working on something similar, but I referred to it as the rules and beliefs of the conventional paradigm. It's something people don't just buy into, it's a reality they live by, and so they don't have a choice in the matter. So, I don't think we can just call it "codes", because codes imply that it's optional. You can ask for a variance with a code, and people will grant you one if you have a good reason. But life codes are different. They are not negotiable at all. I was thinking about ho… | /r/TheRedPill | 29/06/15 10:17 PM |
| 1 | The Vicious Cycle of Blue Pill FaggotryI think you are referring to word switching. People switch words all the time in order to find the perfect word to make their communication more clear. If I know someone uses another word to describe the meaning of what I'm trying to convey to them, I'm going to switch to their word in order to make the communication more efficient and more clear. It's an easy shortcut and a no-brainer because it increases the odds that your point will come across clearly to them. When you communicate with someo… | /r/TheRedPill | 29/06/15 08:43 PM |
| 1 | The Vicious Cycle of Blue Pill FaggotryWhat have you observed as far as disorganized thinking? Do you mean simple things like drinking a cup of coffee at midnight? I wonder if little things like that or seeing them focus on random words and things (gathering dots to connect later) would signal the onset of an episode. | /r/TheRedPill | 29/06/15 07:47 PM |
| 1 | The Vicious Cycle of Blue Pill FaggotryYeah, you can actually teach people to do it. That's what a seance is. | /r/TheRedPill | 29/06/15 07:39 PM |
| 1 | Should women be controlled for the good of the society ?It's a calculation I made based on declining birth rates, declining marriages, and the extreme fear men now have from watching other men's lives ripped apart by child support. Look around you and you can see a lot of women in their forties who don't have a family. It happened to 2 out of my three sisters, which is even worse than 50%. And there's nothing wrong with them so I'm certain they were victims of our culture, and grew up not knowing how to be a woman because they were raised to think of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/15 05:44 PM |
| 1 | Should women be controlled for the good of the society ?I was going to say we should encourage women to return to their role, and leave it to them to decide on their own, because they are the ones who will suffer if they don't (50% chance of not having a family). But then I read the links you provided, and that one guy makes a great point. If we don't control women, they will enslave us and send soldiers after us to beat us and throw us into prison if we're late with massa's weekly cotton quota. That scares the crap out of me because it's exactly wha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/15 09:03 AM |
| 1 | The Red Pill is Not PUAYou seem to be the rare type of person where one idea triggers another. I have never seen anybody else on here do that as easily as you do, and I've never seen anyone who was able to go more than 1 step up that type of staircase. I've always enjoyed the process of idea-building, myself and the thrill of discovery that comes with it, and always kept in the back of my mind the exponential potential it would have if I were ever to someone who could do it with me. Because then instead of just buildi… | /r/TheRedPill | 27/06/15 08:17 PM |
| 2 | The Red Pill is Not PUASocial retards actually respond WAY BETTER to the dry, scientific, almost aspie-esque language of the material in the TRP sidebar than the high-energy antics of PUA practitioners. I agree, that's a great point, it would help them a lot more. But help them what? If there's no "what" then for a lot of guys TRP just becomes more of a gender-struggle power platform than a platform for improving relationships, and so it seems like a lot of them just see TRP a way of learning how to not be manipulated… | /r/TheRedPill | 27/06/15 05:45 PM |
| 1 | is it just me or are women afraid of male sexuality?You're judging the blonde by how she looks, not realizing that the image you see is being created by you - your preferences are why she looks that beautiful, and so the way she looks is based upon a special relationship between you and her. Only you can see her that way. So, to judge her as being better than you is just pushing her away with the same sunbeam you're shining on her, just because she's so sparkly, not realizing all those sparkles are coming out of your sunbeam. Next time you see on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/15 08:38 AM |
| 3 | The Red Pill is Not PUASo that other dude who responded is just as short as you, 11 years older, and much fatter, and he pulls hot chicks easily and has even gotten a few 9s. Sort of makes all those excuses evaporate, don't you think? It's all about the game. Period. I have everything you think you're missing out on, everything you wish you had. And I can tell you it's completely psychological, it's all in your head. My towering height and looks never did shit for me. It always came down to game. Doesn't matter how ha… | /r/TheRedPill | 27/06/15 05:22 AM |
| 1 | is it just me or are women afraid of male sexuality?Ever think of talking to them or asking them out? The beautiful blonde was hoping you were going to talk with her. Here's a secret: she doesn't know what she looks like to you. Here's another: You don't know what you look like to her either. So how do you know you aren't just as hot to her as she is to you? Unless you're really short or really fat, or some other extreme, you have no way of knowing what you look like because it's not up to you. It's up to the individual girl and the way she sees … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/15 12:29 AM |
| 1 | "Sexual strategy is amoral"What if the guy feels that a woman making her romantic relationship with him contingent on who he does or doesn't associate with is nothing but an arbitrary, unreasonable, shitty, controlling behavior, and that such a suffocating attempt to control his life is more immoral than any counter measures he uses to prevent her from doing that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/15 10:02 PM |
| 1 | Girlfriend cheated on me yesterdayThose are all good insights and good to watch out for, but I don't think they are enough to destroy a relationship on their own. I know you and we all want to understand what happened, because to a certain extent, they're all going to be like that. I wonder how much of it was her hanging with the wrong people, and how much was due to behavioral strategy mistakes within the relationship, which might offer some clues about what caused her attraction to unravel. Were there any (newly discovered) be… | /r/TheRedPill | 25/06/15 05:32 PM |
| 1 | [FR] On an exotic island with a competing alpha, a post-wall amazon, a white knight and a SJWI don't think stepping out would have worked, because taking your attention away would have caused her to give chase. Of all the moments you spent with her over the week, the time she was most attracted to you was when you took your attention away. She could have kissed you at any point that night, but only felt strongly enough to do it when you were pulling away. It appears she's much more attracted to "pulling away dude" than any other version of you, or the other guy. The only way the other g… | /r/TheRedPill | 25/06/15 04:32 PM |
| 2 | Put yourself on the pedestal [FR]I'd like to read and analyze more text if you have any. You seem like a natural. I like to study what things cause a person's SMV to rise and fall throughout a conversation, and dig deep into interpreting the responses. For example, girls like you to route them and choose things for them, and inject them with your opinion, which is pretty much the same thing. So, the reverse of that is girls don't like you to ask them to choose between things, or ask them to inject you with their opinion. They d… | /r/TheRedPill | 24/06/15 11:00 PM |
| 1 | Put yourself on the pedestal [FR]Actually, I think what you typed was powerful as hell, and teased the shit out of that girl. I guarantee you turned her on. The only question mark is did the fact that you're talking about obsessing about your friend make you seem unavailable. It's okay to show passion for the married woman, as long as you emphasize the impossibility of it. Going indirect like that is pretty much the only way you can demonstrate your level of passion to the girl, because any other context would imply it's direct… | /r/TheRedPill | 24/06/15 09:48 PM |
| 5 | "It Didn't Mean Anything!"A woman with little sex experience also has little relationship experience. Maybe that's what makes the difference and so a relationship slut is just too aware of all the other possibilities, and so her expectations can never be met. It's her awareness of all the shorter checkout lines that keeps someone like that from ever being happy in the line she's in. | /r/TheRedPill | 24/06/15 08:05 PM |
| 1 | Women are attracted to guys who don't care about themYes, it's sort of an abundance mentality. But it might be partly controlling. You can't value something without valuing whether you lose it. So it's I value losing you, but I wont let it happen. Or I'm so entitled I don't expect it to ever happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/15 06:15 PM |
| 1 | Put yourself on the pedestal [FR]You were describing an actual dream? Well, I guess it was the natural form of the technique. Maybe we're already programmed to do it. | /r/TheRedPill | 24/06/15 06:06 PM |
| 1 | Women are attracted to guys who don't care about themYour role is to care how she feels in a way that doesn't give her any power. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/15 05:23 PM |
| 2 | Put yourself on the pedestal [FR]Looks like you're using NLP hypnosis to embed the girl deeply into a projection she would want, and then yanking it away, which causes her to switch gears into forward and give chase. But I think it's not as much about making her want it more as it is about getting her into a gear that will move forward. If you only approach the girl, she'll instinctively go into reverse and then it becomes a question of how much or how long she's going to stay in reverse and resist your approach. And the proble… | /r/TheRedPill | 24/06/15 04:56 PM |
| 2 | Put yourself on the pedestal [FR]People will reject an idea if it breaks more than one rule of convention. This one is actually two ideas: Gaming over text and playing the part of vanishing prospect. The guys aren't sold on text game, because for most of them, any effort to do it generally backfires. And so in the need for a one size fits all rule, they say to just not even try. The trap guys fall into in text game is they start focusing on the girl's opinions and wants, instead of their own, and so they immediately fall into a… | /r/TheRedPill | 24/06/15 04:18 PM |
| -3 | Dirty SheetsAlthough you didn't create her missing integrity, you did put her into a sexual frenzy by getting her off so many times, and so you left her in an impossible spot. It's like you gave her that many cigarettes three days in a row, got her addicted, and then suddenly left her without any. I think the lesson here is don't give a girl orgasms 2-3 days in a row because then it becomes like cigarettes or more accurately- cocaine because it operates in the same region of her brain and makes her desperat… | /r/TheRedPill | 24/06/15 03:17 PM |
| 1 | Women are attracted to guys who don't care about themYou're right. Caring Bob is going to get rejected because of his behavior. So, there is something in caring that is destructive. Entitled Bob can walk right in and sweep the girl off her feet. He can text her every day if he likes, but if he does, it's because he wants to, not for her sake. Entitled Bob cares about her, meaning he likes her, but he doesn't care what she prefers, or even care what she thinks. Everything he does is centered around his way of doing things. It's always come with me,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/15 03:59 AM |
| 1 | Blue Pill, are you attracted to the Red Pill model of being "Beta"?So, you think the implied intent is what screws it up. But in every case? I was debating with some of the guys about AFBB, because in my mind, providing isn't necessarily the same as trying to please, so I was thinking a guy could be alpha bucks and provide for his family. He only buys the best dogfood for his dog, and buys the nicest, most comfortable bed available. His son plays hockey, so he drops $2,000 into the finest hockey equipment, because that's how he rolls. So, if he has a girlfriend… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/15 10:47 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill, are you attracted to the Red Pill model of being "Beta"?Yeah, you're right. That's a form of shit test that everybody gives, and they often show examples of women giving it to men in the movies. I guess even getting to know someone is a shit test, because the intent is to judge them. That's interesting you associate spontaneous things with the guy being tryhard. I can see how some examples could seem that way if they're out of proportion from being a reasonable effort. So, that might be an actual rule. But how does it differ from your father or grand… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/15 07:20 PM |
| 1 | Shit test Tuesday - text transcriptUsually that is enough. But regardless of your attitude, your SMV is continually measured and updated by the minute. If you watch, you'll see how it fluctuates as her attitude changes throughout the interaction. It's completely judgmental. But most of the time, you don't need to worry because you're getting a good judgement and staying well-within the bounds of her attraction. It's sort of like a job. | /r/TheRedPill | 23/06/15 07:00 PM |
| 0 | What do you say after an opener? (classical "i dont know what to say")Such impulsiveness makes one's comment appear to be the latter, when it speaks without comprehending the discussion. | /r/seduction | 23/06/15 06:18 PM |
| 2 | GF fell for tattoo artist. AWALT.Yeah, maybe the tattoo artist having more social proof was another factor, and having other plates would have balanced it out. | /r/TheRedPill | 23/06/15 05:33 PM |
| 2 | GF fell for tattoo artist. AWALT.No, I think it tells us more about women than this individual. She got hit by a specific pattern that switched her attraction from her bf to the tattoo guy, and so this might be a clear example of how a woman's attraction works. But it wasn't because her "love" for her bf was weak. It's because of what her "love" actually is. It's a hypergamous love, just a contest to see who's the best. So, when she says "I love you" what she really means is I'll stay with you as long as you appear to be the be… | /r/TheRedPill | 23/06/15 04:53 PM |
| 2 | GF fell for tattoo artist. AWALT.Sorry to hear that happened to you. But there might be a lot of valuable data to be collected from this unfortunate series of events. I think something happened in the first interaction, when the three of you were together. Tattoo guy out-alphas you with girlfriend watching, by telling you to take a hike. Your challenge was rejected and you were made to look like a chump. Then when they go off together, it created a bond between them, and a secret for them to share against you. It gave them the … | /r/TheRedPill | 23/06/15 08:56 AM |
| 14 | Shit test Tuesday - text transcriptI think that was a straight up rejection, not a shit test. She honestly didn't want to be with you, so I'm curious what you did wrong in the days leading up to that. Something you said or did lost all your attraction points with her, and so you had to completely abandon her for several days in order to gain them back. That means there was a catastrophic relationship failure at some point in the week earlier. Did you display any weakness? (health or mental) Did you ever come across as tryhard, tr… | /r/TheRedPill | 23/06/15 07:46 AM |
| 0 | CMV: There is no 'equal' relationship dynamicI wonder if the "culture of equality" caused the wife to second-guess her natural instincts to follow her husband and instead caused her to expect to have a 50-50 say in the matter, which ripped her family in half. So, she continues on her way, feeling equal to a man, but having nothing to show for it because there's no benefit to abandoning your own gender in order to be equal to the other. All you're doing is throwing away the only role in life you had. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/15 05:51 AM |
| -3 | What do you say after an opener? (classical "i dont know what to say")You know, I really like apples. (smiles as his hand caresses her shoulder.) And oranges (knowing grin) are fun to eat also. (Takes her hand) But what I really like are (leads her around the room in a dance) peaches. (leans in for the kiss). Don't you? | /r/seduction | 23/06/15 04:15 AM |
| 1 | I'm a cougar magnet!?Must be the accent. Most Brits have ended up with the crappy-sounding London Cockney from homogenization of everyone watching the same TV shows, so if you are one of the extremely few left who have a clean, classy old-fashioned English accent, the kind that we never get to here, except in old movies, that would actually knock women over. Where are you finding them? What is your approach, what are you talking to them about? | /r/seduction | 23/06/15 02:20 AM |
| 1 | CMV: There is no 'equal' relationship dynamicI'm just saying theoretically speaking, it's never going to add up to being even, and so I think the frustration will continue to grow with each unsolvable situation ending up with someone suffering, and so I think eventually both sides will just end up fighting all the time. It's like War Games. The only solution is not to play the game. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/15 01:14 AM |
| 0 | CMV: There is no 'equal' relationship dynamicI'm saying you can have some things that appear to be a compromise, but you can never balance all of them as a group. They're all different, and so you can divide them up fairly. For example, there's only 1 temperature, so somebody's going to be less comfortable than they feel that they should be. So, if they feel that everything should be "equal", they're going to feel doubly miserable: One for feeling like it's the wrong temperature, and two for feeling like it could have, should have gone the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/15 10:13 PM |
| 2 | CMV: There is no 'equal' relationship dynamicYou can't compromise if there's two of you. The pendulum only swings in one direction or the other. And since each situation is different, you can't divide them up in a "reasonable manner". There's no such thing, and so it will never balance out. Reaching for compromise is an exercise in futility. It's like chasing a unicorn. But if both of you try to "chase" that unicorn, you're just going to wind up running head-on into each other. So, if you think you have equal compromise in your own relatio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/15 08:06 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill, are you attracted to the Red Pill model of being "Beta"?I think some guys are so used to getting hit with shit tests, they begin to think every question is one. So, I think most of them are just normal questions. Shit tests are questions that are intended to be hard to answer, such as: Are you hitting on me? Do you say that to all the women? What do you like about me? Are you only just interested in one thing? Are you just using me for sex? A lot of them are designed to be curve balls to see if the guy can think on his feet. So, if a guy approaches a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/15 07:32 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill, are you attracted to the Red Pill model of being "Beta"?Well, with your case, I feel like I don't have enough facts for it to lean one way or the other, so you're right, saying you don't remember or notice doesn't really tell us anything. I was just offering that in order to leave the door open to the possibility that you might remember some of it. I'm just going on the belief that it's a rule, something that women appear to do every time, and so it's like asking if you remember breathing that day. If it's something you've never thought about, it mig… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/15 09:59 PM |
| 1 | Question for BP: Do you think TRP was the first thing we tried?You know what? I'm going to come over to your side. Although I think there are a lot of valuable relationship-enhancing techniques that come under the heading of "dread game", I think the heading itself is wrong because it denotes a different type of emotion than the one we're trying achieve. We don't need the woman to dread losing us in order to for her to value keeping us. And most aspects of dread game are centered around building value, not threatening to take it away. So, the image of a poo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/15 09:06 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill, are you attracted to the Red Pill model of being "Beta"?Maybe TRP is going the wrong way about it (too far), but ending up with the right results because it pulls men in the right direction. If thinking of a woman as the most responsible teenager in the house helps a man to set boundaries in a situation where he wasn't able to do before, then it worked. And for many of them, their beta-ness and propensity to please might be so extreme that that is the only way they would ever be able to do it. If you're extremely one way, you have to overcompensate t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/15 07:53 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill, are you attracted to the Red Pill model of being "Beta"?Well, I would be interested in how your situation fits into the model. The rule is that in order to be attracted to him, you have to see him as a good prospect for climbing the social ladder of society, and you have to see him as someone who can deal with all the mean and rough people out there, and all the pushy people who are going to be always trying to confuse him and take advantage of him and his niceness, and so you need to know that he will be tough and will argue his way out of those sit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/15 04:48 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill, are you attracted to the Red Pill model of being "Beta"?I know you believe that, but so do all women. Like you said, they believe they want the man to listen to every request and every complaint seriously. But there's a dirty trick nature plays on us. What a women says they want, and believes they want, gets overridden by her desire for her husband to be strong in the face of such pressures. I'm still trying to figure it out myself, because it's such a weird phenomenon. But it's true every single time, with no exceptions to the rule. The dilemma is t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/15 08:06 PM |
| 1 | [AskTRP] Isn't it un-American to be against equalism?We took a good idea -equality among men- and tried to apply it to women, forgetting that theirs was a complimentary and equally important specialization and gender role, and that homogenizing them with men would disrupt the yin and yang of how our genders interact. And so now we're left with a society of "persons" who don't know how to interact with each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/15 06:53 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill, are you attracted to the Red Pill model of being "Beta"?The value of those patterns is it gets the man into the frame of mind to treat the woman's requests as if they are coming from (most responsible teenager in the house) so he'll be able to think of his wife as someone whom he has patriarchal authority over. And so he'll know not to grant every single request she makes, but to set reasonable boundaries. If he doesn't set boundaries, she will lose respect for him and judge him as a pushover, someone who will get walked on by everybody in town. She … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/15 06:09 PM |
| 1 | CMV: the opinions of /r/TheRedPill moderators, Endorsed Contributors, and Vanguards can and should be seen as being in line with the overall /r/TRP thought.I'm toying with the idea that all sex is rape. A woman certainly can't ravish herself. And they would get pissed off and lose interest if the man were to try to pause between each step and ask for permission. So, it's not as much about consent as whether she's happy with the result. A lot of guys (Mike Tyson, Kobe Bryant, and all the other ones you see in the news) fall into the trap of getting some type of half-hearted or reluctant consent, and then they find out that if you leave the girl unha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/15 04:49 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Theredpill attracts men who are willing to change and improve on themselves.The point is, TRP is about gender differences and how you need to treat each gender differently. So, his tips for preserving his relationship with a woman would not work for a woman trying to preserve her relationship with a man. The techniques that attract one sex would drive the other away, and vice-versa. The idea of TRP is to stop treating women the way men want to be treated. They're not men, and so we've found out that treating them as equals (equal to a man) doesn't attract them at all, a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/15 03:13 PM |
| 1 | Is it really “submissiveness” or sycophancy that TRP men desire in a woman?I think the man wants to have little battles he can win and move the woman toward submission. And the woman wants to provide little battles for the man to win as he moves toward dominating her. But I think it's the process they want, not the result. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/15 02:33 PM |
| 1 | Is it really “submissiveness” or sycophancy that TRP men desire in a woman?The captain will defer to the first mate if she seems like she knows better. When he says ok hun, he's giving the decision his blessing which means you're still deferring to him and he's still making the final decision. Not deferring to him would be in cases where he strongly disagrees and feels it will be done the wrong way, and you continue on anyway. TRP is about the woman deferring to the man in the extreme situations where one of you is going to be frustrated about taking the wrong route. E… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/15 01:58 PM |
| 1 | What is one rule/policy change that would make the main TRP subreddit better?How about unleashing the power of reddit by not modding at all? Anytime you do a mod, you're taking reddit away from the people, and sabotaging it. One of the greatest, most game-changing posts I've ever seen on reddit got modded, and it really opened my eyes to how destructive it is. The problem with allowing personal modding is people will start modding anything just because it doesn't fit perfectly into their own personal sense of the world and so it means they're going to be deleting anythin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/15 01:56 AM |
| 1 | Men Not "Figuring It Out For Themselves"Well, I think it's still better for them to express it. If a girl covers up her fat bulge, it's never going to make you become more attracted to her so there wouldn't be any benefit for her in doing that. But if showing it makes her look more feminine to a guy who doesn't mind her larger size, then it would be beneficial. For some guys, more is better as long as their body follows the same proportions. It's like a walking exclamation point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/15 01:27 AM |
| 1 | Men Not "Figuring It Out For Themselves"Although it's good to eat right and stay healthy, you don't have to change your physical shape to attract a man. There are always going to men who prefer your body type, and ones who actually prefer your "awkward" look. So, it's not a matter of changing your body, but just expressing how it actually is with revealing, form-fitting clothing: The ones that "make me look fat" and finding the type of man who likes and actually prefers the way you are. You'll probably look like shit in the mirror, bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/15 12:27 AM |
| 1 | Morality and Sexual AffairsCan't have it both ways. If you're redpill, you believe the man is in charge of the relationship. So, you can't backpedal from that just because the woman is married and pretend that she did it. You're still the executive producer of the relationship and the one making it happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/15 10:37 PM |
| 1 | A GNO shit testWell, I'm hoping my work will be of help. My research is uncovering male and female roles we never even thought of. And so it appears that a wife's role goes far beyond sex, cooking and childcare, because she's programed to do whatever she can to secure a place in society for her family. And that includes building her husband into a management and social powerhouse, because that's what it takes to do well in society. If she was nice to you, you would become soft and start losing ground in social… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 19/06/15 05:04 PM |
| 1 | Is this just my wife or AWALT?When she criticizes your sexuality, it means she's not attracted. I would first hammer her for being critical about sex because that's heresy, and go on and on about what that says about her (non-sexual weirdo), and how caught up in herself she is. Then say sex is for normal women, who would love to be with me. You're probably just not the type of person who can experience that. Make her feel like a nerd who gets left behind. Then start leaving her behind like an annoying little sister who has t… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 19/06/15 04:36 AM |
| 2 | Wife cutting off sex.... but is fine with me sleeping with other womenTake away your attention and focus on other things. Starve her and make her beg for it. Don't be an attention slut. Never engage in any arguments. That just turns you into a convincing monkey. Shoot down 1 out of every 5 requests. No. You're such a silly goose. That is not happening. Throw her a bone by doing something on your own accord. It's a nice power move. Social proof is everywhere. Let it shine and radiate from you. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sure she was just being friendly. Look at you, so jea… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 19/06/15 04:11 AM |
| 2 | A GNO shit test(Problem with wife going to theater) Hi, this is just a rough draft of notes from my research to explore some of the psychology going on in situations like this, the psychology of arguments and some of the techniques for handling it. I think you're going about it the wrong way by not letting her go to the theater. Your reason for not giving her permission to go to the theater is...because she hasn't been good? I realize you're pissed with her, but that's not a legitimate reason and so blocking h… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 19/06/15 02:19 AM |
| 1 | Need advices on handling shit test in the form of asking me to do menial tasks for herYou have a lot of untraining to do because she is stuck deep in the wrong groove. It's like training a dog. You gotta take her by the hand and walk her through the motions. If she asks for a glass of water, take her hand, help her up, and walk her over to the kitchen, and teach her how to make it. Make it a fun thing to do together. Do it over and over with her for about a week or so, until the wife gets so used to it, she no longer waits for you to join her and begins to do it herself. Once she… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 18/06/15 05:35 AM |
| 1 | Married Shit Test - need advice(Entrepreneur club meeting scheduled for day after baby is due) If she wasn't pregnant I'd actually say ignoring would be the rp route. Definitely ignore the baiting "you'll take off when you want". I'd sit her down once and state : "I am building a better future for our family. If the kid is healthy and the delivery goes as planned I'll be gone from x to x and back at x. " I think that's still playing into her argument and giving it investment, weight, attention and legitimacy. She watches you … | /r/MarriedRedPill | 17/06/15 07:28 PM |
| 1 | Married Shit Test - need advice(baby/meeting shit test) What would you do with an employee? Would you discuss it with the employee for hours, giving full legitimacy to each one of his concerns by providing detailed responses, answers and excuses? This puts you in the position of bending over backward trying to please them, and your investment makes them feel like their concerns are legitimate. So, they will smell blood and become more aggressive in order to milk it some more. When someone presses you with something unreasonab… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 17/06/15 05:06 PM |
| 2 | How can some women be so messed up?The biggest mistake you made was kicking her out. That left her butthurt and so she needed a way to justify it, which was making it about something you did. If you had just stopped the interaction, and told her you were tired, but you enjoyed the night, she would have gone along her merry way since all she lost was your attention. But by kicking her out, you let her know you were pissed. And so that created damage that was related to sex, which is the formula people associate with rape. You shou… | /r/TheRedPill | 17/06/15 02:48 PM |
| 1 | Are women instinctively submissive and seek male leadership? Do men have a protective instinct that is betraying them?I see you posted the lyrics, but you didn't offer any alternate interpretation about what she meant by "I'm looking for attention Not another question Should you stay or should you go? Well, if you don't have the answer Why are you still standin' here?" What do you think happened that night, or what do you think she meant by that? She's obviously making a point, so what do you think her point to the guy is? You seem to read faster than I can type, so I was still typing and editing the last comme… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/15 06:29 PM |
| 1 | Are women instinctively submissive and seek male leadership? Do men have a protective instinct that is betraying them?I don't see any relationship between what you typed and the lyrics of the song, so obviously it wasn't your intent to interpret the lyrics. You're just copying something off the internet and assuming it's right without thinking the phrases through yourself. That's fine. Maybe you don't want to, or don't care. But the phrases in the song were what I was referring to. I'm not talking about them making "a" move. I'm asking if you ever had any that made most of the moves. Perhaps you don't believe i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/15 05:08 PM |
| 1 | Are women instinctively submissive and seek male leadership? Do men have a protective instinct that is betraying them?You didn't provide an alternate interpretation of the lyric. There's no other way to interpret it. She was crystal clear about what was said and how it made her feel. So, unless you can come up with an alternate meaning that matches the words, you agree with my interpretation. Here it is again: I'm looking for attention, not another question, should I stay or should I go? Well if you don't have the answer, why are you still standing here? Just walk away. She's referring to a night at the end of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/15 01:42 PM |
| 1 | Are women instinctively submissive and seek male leadership? Do men have a protective instinct that is betraying them?I don't see how any of that counters or even disagrees with what I'm saying. So I guess that means we agree now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/15 01:58 AM |
| 1 | Are women instinctively submissive and seek male leadership? Do men have a protective instinct that is betraying them?Women are raised as unisex "persons" with no regard to their gender or roles. It's like their gender got erased, as if it wasn't important anyway. But what if it was important? What a waste of a female life. See, people have no regard at all for the female role. It's only half of how we got here, but they think they can just chuck it away like it was an option. According to declining birth rates, and the number of single women in their forties, it wasn't an option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/15 01:43 AM |
| 1 | Are women instinctively submissive and seek male leadership? Do men have a protective instinct that is betraying them?Men and women are like conjoined twins. Neither can survive without the other, and so just like conjoined twins, you can't split them and call them separate. It's like comparing your left side with your right side, and arguing over which one's superior. It's not a race. We're all men-women, so it doesn't matter which one we put first because we're in it together. If you put your husband first, you still win, because it's the same boat, it's your husband half of you. It's like putting your right … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/15 11:16 PM |
| -1 | Men, even TRP men, love women very much.The man's scale is the only scale. But that means you're saying there's no gender. Humans are split into two different genders. They are different because they are supposed to be different. They are not going to match up on any scale, whether it is weight, height, intelligence, or anything else. It's like comparing an apple to an orange. Any attempt to compare them is disregarding their gender, and their intentional evolutionary differences. TRP is the realization that we are different genders, … | /r/TheRedPill | 15/06/15 05:44 PM |
| 1 | How do I accept the things about my looks that I can't change?Well, my thought is, your body is not designed to have varicose veins, so there must be something you're differently than your ancestors did, such as sitting more than they did, eating different foods than they did, or smoking, or not getting as much sunlight as they did. So, hopefully that means this is something you can reverse and eventually make it disappear. it sounds like your diet is pretty good. The only thing I would add is taking a mutivitamin, and keeping bread, flour and grains to a … | /r/RedPillWomen | 15/06/15 04:27 PM |
| 1 | Are women instinctively submissive and seek male leadership? Do men have a protective instinct that is betraying them?No, I think women are naturally submissive, but they've been raised as men and taught to think of themselves as equal to men. So, when they grow up, they think of themselves as men, and carry all the expectations of men. Men are not expected to submit to anyone. So, for the women raised that way, the thought of doing so goes against their beliefs....beliefs that were instilled in them, but unfortunately go against their gender. So, what we end up with is someone who isn't going to be able to be … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/15 05:21 AM |
| 1 | Are women instinctively submissive and seek male leadership? Do men have a protective instinct that is betraying them?It's just about having the final say, so of course the husband is going to listen to and benefit from some of his wife's ideas. She can help him with suggestions and by supporting his own ideas. It's just that you can't split it 50-50 because there's no way to do that fairly. There are two of you, so you can't put it to a vote, and since each time is different, it's just going to have to be unfair one way or the other. So, we are designed to let the man have the final say, since somebody has to.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/15 03:51 AM |
| 1 | Why should women get educated at all ?Of course. A woman needs to be able to choose whether or not to fulfill her gender, and whether or not to support her husband. But in school, and in the home, girls are only given one suggestion: To choose to grow up and live like men. They don't even consider growing up to be a good wife, because nobody ever suggests it to them. And so, they just go with whatever everybody else is doing, since that strategy usually works with everything else. But nobody tells them the full list of choices and t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/15 02:14 AM |
| 1 | Why should women get educated at all ?Okay, that's a good question and here is the answer: A woman should be educated in whatever ways that will help her fulfill her role as a wife and mother. So, teaching, home-ec, accounting, and some aspects of management, especially motivational management would be valuable things for them to learn. But the fact remains, if you raise your daughter to become a strong, professional independent woman, you'll get one, but you probably won't get any grandchildren. It's like taking her uterus to the c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/15 07:18 PM |
| 1 | Are women instinctively submissive and seek male leadership? Do men have a protective instinct that is betraying them?If you look at how women in the past were, and men in the past were, you can begin to understand where we're coming from and what we are. We are split into different genders and different roles because that was the best way for us to survive. So, our gender determines our alignment, and which role we're aligned for. So, you being a woman, are aligned to let a man lead you. If you try to go against that, you're going against your own alignment, and his alignment, and so that's going to mess up bo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/15 06:55 PM |
| 1 | Are women instinctively submissive and seek male leadership? Do men have a protective instinct that is betraying them?Congratulations on your career success. But here's the snag. When you grow old, what are you going to have to show for it? What are they going to put on your gravestone: "She did a great job"? Was that your main goal in life? Just because you -can- work a hammer or a shovel doesn't mean you should. I know you followed everyone's advice and it sounds like you excelled in every way possible. But what if it was bad advice they were giving you, and it put you on a one-way track to nowhere? But you'r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/15 06:14 PM |
| 1 | How To Talk To Everyone You See.Haha, but Chad is the prince. Remember, the handsome prince rides in and takes her away. He doesn't stop to chat with her, or ask her what she wants to do, or ask if she wants to come with him. He just takes her. Just like Chad would have. | /r/TheRedPill | 14/06/15 05:36 PM |
| 1 | How To Talk To Everyone You See.Yeah, good point. If you put her too much on the spot, she might clam up and go into defense mode. The other way establishes you as non-threatening. But wait a minute, That's not what I want either. I want to be threatening and put her on the spot, because that's what puts her into butterflies mode. A girl wants a handsome prince to ride up and take her with him. Not pause, chat about random values, ask her a few questions, etc. Talking about other stuff makes it seem like he isn't clear on what… | /r/TheRedPill | 14/06/15 04:53 PM |
| 1 | How To Talk To Everyone You See.What I mean is I feel like we should show intent. Otherwise, it just confuses the girl and she's wondering what we're up to, why we are doing it. A lot of girls hate for a guy to beat around the bush, but then again, maybe that's the point- keeping her guessing in order to spark her interest. I was thinking in terms of dictating the frame in a way she understands it. "Hi, I want to talk to you... to see what you're like" or "to see what kind of person you are." Or with a little Julien smack: "to… | /r/TheRedPill | 14/06/15 04:24 PM |
| 2 | How To Talk To Everyone You See.Nice article on "codes". Betas are afraid to step outside the rigid walls of convention, because they are used to being obedient and it is their reality. Alphas just go along their merry way, unconcerned with convention. | /r/TheRedPill | 14/06/15 03:47 PM |
| 1 | How To Talk To Everyone You See.Yes, a girl likes to experience you giving value judgements. But it seems like we should give her a reason for approaching because some of them are going to be thinking in their heads "Why is this weirdo walking up and telling me random facts that don't relate to me?". I've seen that look many times, and it makes you feel pretty stupid. So, I feel like we need something to introduce the frame to the girl, so she understands what is happening. | /r/TheRedPill | 14/06/15 03:05 PM |
| 0 | The Rational Male – Adaptations Part II was wondering, how do you resolve TRP truths with the scientific community, whose truths are pretty much opposite and so they promote the feminist ideals of respecting each-other more, and treating women as unisex persons, rather than different because of their gender. Doesn't your work kind of show that the "scientists" are just recycling the same "peer-reviewed" self-contained material over and over, and really don't know anything about the real-world psychology of women? | /r/TheRedPill | 13/06/15 11:47 PM |
| 1 | Men, even TRP men, love women very much.Um, people don't live forever, so we are all disposable. And men don't discard a good woman. They discard the bad ones. And if society didn't limit them to one at a time, there would be no reason for men to ever discard them. | /r/TheRedPill | 13/06/15 05:29 PM |
| 0 | Men, even TRP men, love women very much.When you say women are unworthy, I think you're judging them with a man's scale, and so you're saying women are unworthy as men. But they aren't men, and so they're not supposed to treat you like a male friend. Women have specific roles, and apparently, testing you and giving you a hard time is part of that role. Pushing you with unreasonable requests is part of that role. So, their bad behavior is not because they are lesser, unworthy people. It's designed around their roles, which is to screen… | /r/TheRedPill | 13/06/15 05:00 PM |
| 1 | Men, even TRP men, love women very much.Well, that depends on what love means. If it means becoming dependent and losing control, then yes, that's something none of us want or allow to happen because it causes women to lose their attraction. But if we're referring to a patriarchal love that flows down to everyone and everything we care about, then that's something I think we all do and provide. I don't think any of us does it out of contempt for women, like capturing an attacking enemy soldier and making them your slave. Like haha, tr… | /r/TheRedPill | 13/06/15 03:28 PM |
| 2 | Field Report: My DivorceSo, she got so used to you being a beta, that she couldn't adjust to you being alpha. But do you think you were being impatient with her, or did you give her plenty of time and come to the conclusion that she was never going to improve? I suspect you still might have been doing things to please her, or giving her things like your attention too freely instead of making her work for them or wait for them, and let her excitement build up. That's a mistake I think we all do, and so I'm trying to thi… | /r/TheRedPill | 12/06/15 09:35 PM |
| 1 | Question for BP: Do you think TRP was the first thing we tried?Oh, I still think there's a chance, since there's a point I left out in an effort to simplify things. The point is, there are a lot of men are out there who are doing something wrong that is related to dread game. It's the way they do everything within the relationship, but if they do it the wrong way, it has the opposite effect of dread game, and actually damages the relationship instead of making it exciting. Doing things the wrong way takes the spark out of the relationship, and turns anythin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/15 09:10 PM |
| 2 | Question for BP: Do you think TRP was the first thing we tried?To me, RP is just the realization that we are different genders, with different polarities, and so we respond to different things. These guys used to go around trying to treat women as equals, which means treating them the way men like to be treated, but although that works well in business environments, they didn't find much success doing that in relationships. And so The Red Pill is the realization that men and women are different, and that you can't treat them as interchangeable "persons" in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/15 06:53 PM |
| 2 | Field Report: My DivorceWell, sorry to hear about the ordeal. But your situation sounds like all the others, and so since they all seem to behave that way, I wonder if we can squeeze some knowledge out of it for the next one, as if she's an engine that would have worked a certain way, if we could just figure out how to get it to work. How long did her good behavior last, how many days? I'm wondering how would it have played out if you had postponed filing for another week, but still planned to file. And then if you had… | /r/TheRedPill | 12/06/15 06:22 PM |
| 2 | Field Report: My DivorceSo, what triggered her to suddenly jump back into her role? Did you say you were going to divorce her? or was it when you stopped trying to please her? I wonder if wondering about whether or not you were going to file made her excited about the marriage again, from the loss-value syndrome where we value things we might lose more than things we feel secure about. | /r/TheRedPill | 12/06/15 01:46 PM |
| 1 | Question for BP: Do you think TRP was the first thing we tried?I think part of your "anger" theory is based on the idea that you think these guys want to pick up girls, bang 'em and chuck 'em. There's a lot of advice on TRP on how to pick a girl up, and how to establish a sexual relationship with her. But I've never, ever seen anyone discuss ways of chucking them. That step isn't discussed because it's not something anyone wants to have happen. So, although I'm sure you've seen it happen, I'm certain it wasn't preplanned that way. Sometimes people have sex … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/15 12:23 AM |
| 1 | Question for BP: Do you think TRP was the first thing we tried?How is it psychological manipulation to adjust to their gender, and treat the the way they want us to treat them, and be the way they want us to be? Remember, it's wasn't our idea to be like that. We had to change into it. Who are we trying to attract? The ones we find of course, which is all of them. I don't know of any type of woman who this would not be for, it's designed around them as a gender. I believe even the staunchest feminist, although much harder to reach, would eventually fold into… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/15 11:37 PM |
| 1 | Question for BP: Do you think TRP was the first thing we tried?You feel like that checklist is the basic model you live by, but I suspect that the feeling might be an overall assumption that might be mistaken, and based on what you think it should be, rather than what it is. Of course, you could just as easily suggest that our theories are what are mistaken, so it might be interesting to delve deeper into the details of your observations in order see how they line up with the theories. I'm saying there are certain things that are unworkable in a marriage, a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/15 11:02 PM |
| 1 | Question for BP: Do you think TRP was the first thing we tried?"Now that you're "fixed", have you given solid effort to trying a nonRP relationship? Let's have some fun with that: Now that you've climbed up the mountain, have you given any solid effort to reverse your steps and climb back down? Now that you've finally found a diet that makes you lose weight, have you given any effort to trying a different diet? (why in the world would he do that? If he's finally found the combination that works, and gotten in, why would he lock the door, go back outside, an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/15 08:08 PM |
| 2 | Question for BP: Do you think TRP was the first thing we tried?So, you think TRPers are angry and using TRP methods to stick it to women? Sounds like you're turning it into some type of conspiracy theory in order to explain the disconnect from conventional methods. You know, the "equality" methods that result in 50% divorce rates. Being congruent with something that fails to that extent would not be a good thing anyway. My impression of TRPers is that they are only angry at themselves for not knowing how women work, but they're happy now because they now fi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/15 05:03 PM |
| 2 | Question for BP: Do you think TRP was the first thing we tried?I went through them and couldn't find one that was a legitimate argument or example that made TRP seem bad, or negative in any way. The only thing you can accuse TRP of is going against the "equality" culture, which is actually the culture of everyone wanting to be treated equality in fulfilling the male role, regardless of whether they are biologically aligned to fulfill that role. The equality culture is actually anti-female because it totally disregards the importance of the wives, mothers, a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/15 04:41 PM |
| 2 | Question for BP: Do you think TRP was the first thing we tried?You're right. Good genes is not enough. I've never had it help me either, even though I wouldn't trade them for anyone else's. But a woman wants a man who can prove that he's the type who will perform well in society. She knows a nice guy with good genes will get stepped on by everyone else, and so to her that's a much more important factor. I guess women figure we all have essentially the same good genes, or at least good enough and so what matters more to her is how well you perform with them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/15 04:24 PM |
| 2 | Question for BP: Do you think TRP was the first thing we tried?What's this "worthless" label? I've never heard of a TRPer refer to women as worthless or inferior overall. For a woman to be inferior overall, she would have to be bad at everything, including child care. TRPers believe in gender differences, and gender specialization. They believe we are different for a reason, not just for variety or decor. TRPers believe women are inferior to men at fulfilling male roles, and men are inferior to women at fulfilling female roles, but that each gender is equal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/15 08:19 AM |
| 1 | Question for BP: Do you think TRP was the first thing we tried?Red pillers believe in gender differences and gender specializations, and so they think women are inferior at fulfilling male roles, and men are inferior at fulfilling female roles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/15 07:06 AM |
| 4 | Question for BP: Do you think TRP was the first thing we tried?Well, according to our theory, that checklist is a recipe for disaster because it completely disregards gender roles, gender differences, gender specialization, and gender orientation of attraction. If genders were unnecessary, we wouldn't have them. But we do. So, to ignore them would be being ignorant of them, since it is the same word and has the same meaning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/15 06:47 AM |
| 1 | Would traditional patriarchy work without religion ?But equal what? Equally important of course: The wife is extremely important. But if it's equal roles, then you would both be disregarding your gender, and going against nature. Neither one of you are equally good at anything, so it would be a mistake to split any tasks. And you have to watch out that he is doing things because he wants to, not because you asked him to. By asking him to do something, you set up a double problem: First, it risks that he might fall short, not doing it well enough,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/15 01:19 AM |
| 1 | Would traditional patriarchy work without religion ?Yes, but we need to discern between treating you like an idiot, which the assholes will do, and a guy who is directing things based on what he wants. The true alpha will direct you so gently, so naturally, you won't even notice it because it just feels natural. He moves forward, assuming that if you like him and find him attractive, you would want him to move forward with you. He knows not to stop between each step and ask your opinion because he knows you won't like that, and you'll get mad at … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/15 05:37 PM |
| 2 | If the red pill isn't based on science and facts, well, what the fuck is it based on?You are right to question the accuracy of TRP given that it's truths are in direct conflict with conventional science. So, which one is correct? One of them is just a cult that indoctrinates its members with horseshit "facts" that all originate from the work of earlier members of the cult. The other is comprised of real scientists who go out into the field to gather new data, continually perform actual realtime experiments in the field, and continually record and analyze the results. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/15 05:16 AM |
| 2 | Guide for avoiding red pill menWhy do you associate TRP with having your heart broken again? Guys learn TRP techniques in order to get a woman, and hold on to her attraction. If he uses techniques to hold on to your attraction, isn't that protecting you from having your heart broken again? What's wrong with being "manipulated"? If being manipulated means being made to feel happy, is that a bad thing? It's a relationship, so anything that benefits one side benefits the other side, because of the dynamics of it being a relation… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/15 04:10 AM |
| 1 | Would traditional patriarchy work without religion ?Yes, your husband liked that you were straight with him. But that's a management preference. He knows that a woman being artificially supportive isn't going to do him any good, and is only going to confuse the issue by lying. It also hints of trying-for-rapport, which can be annoying to guys as well. Being supportive is helping him in ways that benefit him, not helping him in ways you think will get him to like you. The false motive is what ruined it for the other women. So, what aspects of the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/15 02:41 AM |
| 1 | Would traditional patriarchy work without religion ?Okay, I figured it out. A woman wants the man to take virtually every step in the relationship because it allows her to judge his behavior. If the woman takes a step, it doesn't tell her anything about the guy, and so doing so is pretty much useless and wastes the opportunity of measuring him on it. A man who is confident, successful, a leader of men, and knows what he wants will take each step confidently, because it reflects his self-image and where he is coming from. A timid man who is used t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/15 06:08 PM |
| 5 | Chad Thundercock succeeds at online dating.Your mistake was in asking. Never ask a woman about a relationship step. It's not up to her, so don't ever ask her to help you decide what you want to do. That's like asking her what your favorite movie should be, or what color you should like. Her answer would be dude, how the hell should I know? | /r/TheRedPill | 09/06/15 05:25 AM |
| 1 | Chances a prostitute will claim child support from me?Wow, this is how bad it has gotten. Men are persecuted and punished for having children to such an extent, they're afraid of any possible route to that experience, no matter how remote it is. Our culture has gone full retard with its over-protective, anti-men policies. | /r/askTRP | 09/06/15 04:51 AM |
| 1 | Alpha males and Beta traits: What the red pill considers alpha vs what is alpha.When it comes to providing, what discerns alpha from beta is why he is providing. If he is providing for you out of patriarchal love, then it is alpha. If he is providing for you as an effort to please you and trying to get you to like him, then he is beta. In the former example, the providing is judged by the woman as a strength. In the latter example, the woman judges the behavior as a weakness. Patriarchal subordination is about who is in charge, and the polarity of each gender's orientation … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/15 04:23 AM |
| 1 | RPW and proposalsDoesn't want to try what anymore? Are you saying he lost attraction, or doesn't try to beta-please you? The latter would actually be a good thing. If he goes around trying to please you, trying for rapport, trying to get you to like him, it would have the opposite effect, and you would judge him as pathetic and lose your attraction to him. | /r/RedPillWomen | 09/06/15 03:55 AM |
| 1 | What do you do if a girl/woman wanted to fight/attack you?Well, I think that's the exception. If she hurts herself, she then has to justify how she got hurt. Women are a little strange when it comes to violence, because their attitude toward the other person afterward can cause a memory-shift and re-shape their recollection of the events. Then when they are interviewed by the cops, they sound really believable, because they truly believe the story they are telling themselves. I would just GTFO since there's no way of going up against that. | /r/askTRP | 09/06/15 03:39 AM |
| 1 | Would traditional patriarchy work without religion ?Well if you know of any exceptions, I would like to hear them. I'm not trying to make the patriarchy right, I'm just trying to understand the laws of nature so I can abide by them, because I know that trying to go against the laws of nature doesn't work, and just makes life harder than it has to be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/15 03:23 AM |
| 1 | What do you do if a girl/woman wanted to fight/attack you?That's like saying to pull a knife on a Hell's Angel who is threatening you, because they're crazy and likely to pull a knife on you. I'm still not doing it, because if I pull out a knife, the odds of my getting stabbed jump tenfold. Call the cops on a woman, and your odds of getting arrested jump tenfold. If you value your freedom and personal space, you won't do it. | /r/askTRP | 09/06/15 03:07 AM |
| 1 | How to fuck her silly amidst annoying logisticsNo, they're not dudes with vjs in any way, shape or form. Women are completely different. I bet if you were to give me enough details, I would be able to figure out what really happened. The only way they would ever reject you over sex is if you weren't able to mate with them or get them pregnant, in the context of it jeopardizing you as a route for raising a successful family. | /r/askTRP | 09/06/15 02:59 AM |
| 1 | Girl is making me wait for sex. Journey into TheRedPill.The man is the captain of the relation-ship, and so he's the one who navigates it through the water. | /r/askTRP | 09/06/15 02:50 AM |
| 1 | What do you do if a girl/woman wanted to fight/attack you?That's only if she's planning on calling them, or definitely going to call them. But I left that scenario out because if she's taking matters into her own hands to do something to you, she's not the type who calls for any help. A woman who is kicking your ass is the tough-girl type, and they don't need nuffin from nobody. | /r/askTRP | 09/06/15 02:45 AM |
| 1 | Would traditional patriarchy work without religion ?Well, he still seems to have provided the frame by asking you to meet him there again, and then asking you to the movies. At that point, you felt comfortable with him and felt like you were already within the framework of a relationship with him, so you felt comfortable about asking him to dinner. That was a bold step, but I think even though sometimes the woman takes a step here and there, she always steps back and lets him take the next step to make sure it's what he wants. You invited him to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/15 01:46 AM |
| 1 | Need help with relationship issue, SO having emotional attachment to ex.They are just series of key-presses, but there's no evidence of any meaning behind them. You feel like you wish he would say them to you, but you want him to mean it when he says it to you. He obviously doesn't mean it when he says it to her, so it's not something you're missing out on that she's getting, because she's not getting anything of any value. He just types a few nice things just to make her feel better and then goes about his day, week, month without giving it another thought. The poi… | /r/RedPillWomen | 09/06/15 01:16 AM |
| 1 | How to fuck her silly amidst annoying logisticsThey fuck particular men, meaning it's more about the man than the activity. With a few exceptions, as there is with any rule, no woman wants to just fuck, just for the sake of fucking. And when they do, they're fucking the man, not his dick. That's why most women don't want to see dick pics. And some of them take it even a step farther and are only focused on fucking who you are and your position in society, so for them, it's not even about you in your physical form. | /r/askTRP | 09/06/15 12:40 AM |
| 1 | RPW and proposalsThis is a tough situation. Something is going on, but how do you go about asking him about it? Honey, how are you doing, is everything okay? You seem preoccupied. What are you thinking, what are you working on? Can I work on it with you? Let's work on it together. What is it that you want to work on? Are you happy with me? What can I do to make your life better? When you think about the future, what do you see? What do you think about? I think with the right combination of questions, you can at … | /r/RedPillWomen | 09/06/15 12:24 AM |
| 2 | Need help with relationship issue, SO having emotional attachment to ex.I think what is most important is the frequency of their communication. If he is spending every day with you, and only communicating once or twice a month with her, then there is no comparison between the two, at all. A relationship is all about focus, which is your Reticular Activation System (RAS). It sounds like he's giving you 99% of his RAS and maybe 1% to the ex, which can pretty much be rounded down to zero because it doesn't offer her much hope. All the other stuff is just words. You're … | /r/RedPillWomen | 08/06/15 10:21 PM |
| 1 | What do you do if a girl/woman wanted to fight/attack you?Recording is a good idea, but I would never call the cops about an interaction with a woman, no matter what she did. That's like trying to arrest a cop, or trying to file a lawsuit against a lawyer, or trying to pull a knife on a Hells Angel. You're just going to wind up getting it jammed so far back up your ass, you won't know what hit you. | /r/askTRP | 08/06/15 09:15 PM |
| 1 | Semi-FR, need advice on a plate...She valued your attention during the party 100x more than having it afterward when there are no other people around. So, what mattered to her was being seen as together during the party, much more so than being together after the party. It's just one of those weird female priorities. | /r/askTRP | 08/06/15 09:03 PM |
| 1 | hey trp, if i stated what i wanted and got back from my gf something like "it's all about you" - is this a shit test?She says "It's all about you". It's all about me, and it's all about you. Well, who else would our relationship be about? As opposed to who? You?? We were talking about me, remember? Oh, you only want us to consider you? What about me, what about us? Don't you want me to be in this picture? I need you to focus. I need you to be this way. No, you're getting distracted. I need you to really focus. If you keep flipping it around, you're never going to be able to do this, you're never going to be ab… | /r/askTRP | 08/06/15 08:32 PM |
| 2 | Girl is making me wait for sex. Journey into TheRedPill.She seems to be holding back because she's not sure what you want from her. She's wondering whether you want her in your life, or if just want to get laid. And she's afraid you'll lose interest in her after you fuck her, as many guys have probably done so before. So, I would figure all that out and then tell her the deal. If you want to plate her, you can just say you're meeting new people and really enjoying getting to know her. Yes, you would fuck other women, no you don't have anyone in mind,… | /r/askTRP | 08/06/15 07:50 PM |
| 3 | How to fuck her silly amidst annoying logisticsA woman isn't attracted to sex. If they were, they would be fucking men every day. Woman are attracted to viable evolutionary routes. All you have to do is present such a route. That's it. You don't even have to fuck them, or ever need to give them an orgasm. It's completely unnecessary because they only judge you by your viability as a route. Put the opposite way, you can make a girl scream all night, but on the next day if you show even the slightest weakness that jeopardizes her respect for y… | /r/askTRP | 08/06/15 04:59 PM |
| 1 | Inconsistency; She makes you wait for sex - RPW, or BP man?First, you need to determine if she is just putting in a token delay, or if she really has deep beliefs about it. If it's the latter, and you're locked in on her as a target, you're just going to have to come up with things to do with her and ways to entertain yourself while you run out the clock on getting to know her. She wants to see if you're able to enjoy each other without sex, since she knows that any guy would enjoy spending time with her, if it was just to have sex with her. But if you … | /r/askTRP | 08/06/15 04:25 PM |
| 2 | "Nice set of titties you have there" can I go back there?The mistake you made was you didn't take any steps forward, give her any orders, or ask her to do anything. Receptive women are like obedient robots, but they don't move until you ask them to. They're like waitresses waiting for you to place your order. Come around here and give me a hug. I'm taking you out on Friday. Listen, I gotta run now, but give me your number. I want to talk to you. I want to get together with you this weekend. | /r/askTRP | 08/06/15 03:56 PM |
| 1 | How the fuck do you distinguish a shit-test from a comfort-test? Are both dealt with by keeping frame or do comfort-tests require you to juxtapose your alpha traits with some beta ones? Thanks."Am I just a sex toy to you?" No, you do have some redeeming qualities. Not many, but a few. Is that all you feel like you are? Wow, you really have a low self-esteem. Are you criticizing that aspect of our relationship? We don't have to have to have sex if you don't want to. But I thought you liked having sex. Is there something wrong with you? Do you have psychological problems about sex? Did something happen in your past. Haha, you're funny. Sometimes you say the weirdest things. | /r/askTRP | 08/06/15 03:44 PM |
| 1 | Would traditional patriarchy work without religion ?Oh, well then now it all makes sense. You don't remember having to take all those steps building the relationship because you didn't have to take them. But it's really interesting that you feel like it just happened, rather than a long list of steps the guy took. I wonder how it gets converted into something that magically happened, something that was meant to be? That's fascinating.that it does. So, when a guy takes steps with a woman, she feels like it is something that spontaneously happened,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/15 03:14 PM |
| 1 | Dear MenBut you shouldn't have to make that point because it's not a race. We are all half-man half-woman, and we all carry both gender specializations inside us, so our children will each be able to do a better job in their roles. So, we should thank people for sticking to their roles, which allowed for the male side of us to accomplish those things, while the female side of us supported them in ways that made them that strong and that focused. Both sexes accomplished those things by sticking to their … | /r/TheRedPill | 08/06/15 02:17 PM |
| 1 | What is sexism?Maybe sexism is the right word, but just ignorant to use. Reminds me of a video called "ism", which is a tonic someone goes around trying to sell people on, in order to rile them up. That's the goal here, so it's whatever the topic + ism. Maybe they could call it patriarchism, or genderism, or divided rollism. Or maybe the word should refer to the attempted homogenization of the sexes, such as unisexism. But sexism is a silly term to use because genders are inherently discriminating by being so … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/15 01:44 PM |
| 1 | Would traditional patriarchy work without religion ?I've heard of women taking the relationship steps for granted, and assuming that it all "just happens", because for them, it does as they are not the ones tasked with carrying out all the steps. But I think you as a man would understand since you're the one who had to take them. Or perhaps you don't remember, or maybe you saw some exceptions to the nature of the requirements of relationship-building? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/15 07:48 AM |
| 1 | Would traditional patriarchy work without religion ?A good-looking man who is pleasant, but a tad boring or worse: seems like he is trying to please you or get you to like him is about as attractive to a woman as a 20-minute delay. So although looks and pleasantry can be nice, they're simply not enough to attract or even sway a woman on their own. A woman is much more judgmental about a man's attitude and behavior, because they are much better indicators of his viability. Any man can look good or be pleasant, no matter how low his position in soc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/15 06:22 AM |
| 1 | Why Do People Have Children?I don't think the people think that far into it. They just think in well-meaning little sound bites. "You fathered the child, you pay for it." "You got that woman used to a lifestyle of spending all your money, well, you can't just take that away from her, you'll have to support her in the life she is accustomed to." "Deadbeat dads who knock women up and refuse to "support their kids should be made to pay or go to jail." And I don't know where they got the "take about a third of the father's inc… | /r/TheRedPill | 08/06/15 04:59 AM |
| 3 | Can men and women actually get along?Men and women aren't designed to get along, they are designed to team up and win the rat race of life together. A woman's goal is to team up with the right guy and then help him win. But since she can only pick one, her first step is to discern which one is the right guy. Unlike men, who benefit from getting any woman pregnant, a woman only gets one chance, so she has to figure out which guy offers the best prospects out there, above all the others for fathering her children. There are plenty of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/15 01:29 AM |
| 0 | Would traditional patriarchy work without religion ?I think you're right: The point of religion is to teach patriarchy. That's how religion became a beneficial trait for survival: the people who used religion to teach patriarchy are the ones who survived. The ones who didn't use religion to teach patriarchy, were less likely to survive. And so that's how we ended up in such a religious world. But now in the current culture, the patriarchy/religion is weakening and falling apart, and since it was necessary for survival, the family and reproductive… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/15 06:56 PM |
| 2 | Advice on conquering this seemingly hard taskYeah, you have oneitis, but your problem is you need to stop worrying about what she wants. It's not up to her, its about what you want. If you want this girl, just take her. She either goes along or she doesn't. But you have to provide something for her to go along with. Just grab her hand and say "I'm taking your hand, I want you to come this way." "I want to talk to you." I want you to stick by me this entire evening. "Why? Because that's what I want." "You're my girl tonight." "Now, go get m… | /r/TheRedPill | 07/06/15 05:56 PM |
| 2 | Why Do People Have Children?Your premise is correct within our system, but it is because of our system, not because of the children themselves. Our system of laws has made it extremely costly and dangerous to have children, turning what was once a huge asset (productive farmhands and soldiers) into a huge liability where you are expected to support them like invalids for 1/3 of their lives. And the mother, who used to be a valuable asset and pull her own weight as a productive farm hand and milk maid now becomes another no… | /r/TheRedPill | 07/06/15 05:27 PM |
| 1 | FR: Don't be a beta chump at a clubAwesome report. I wonder if you could go into more detail about how you navigated the razor's edge between staring creepily and staring teasingly? Was it just repetitive, but short of continual? I wonder if you timed it by staring at her for a while, and then taking breaks, allowing her to sometimes look over and see you looking away, putting the pressure on and then off for a while, leaving her wondering why you aren't staring at her anymore. | /r/TheRedPill | 07/06/15 04:58 PM |
| 1 | FR: Don't be a beta chump at a clubThis is an interesting event, because the only reason she gave you her number was because you were assertive with her, passed her chump test, and controlled her route. She likes a man who will take that role with her, so much so that she was willing to bend over backward and do something uncomfortable to get a man like that. Trying to control her route was risky and divisive, and elicits a strong emotion either way. She would either get angry with you, or it would make you the hottest guy in the… | /r/TheRedPill | 07/06/15 03:30 PM |
| 1 | Why do you assume Red Pill men hate women?When a guy says you look beautiful, you assume he is lying. That is your way to resolve the imbalance of your reality and his reality. But here's the problem: He's not lying, he's telling you the truth. You really are that beautiful to him. But once you realize he is telling the truth, then you still have to resolve the imbalance. How can you be so beautiful to him, but so average-looking in the mirror? So, how are you going to resolve that imbalance? He must be crazy to think you are beautiful.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/15 01:50 AM |
| 1 | How do you guys reconcile TRP truths with conventional psychology, as well as conventional science as a whole?But it is important to know the odds and direction you're going in, and that can only be done in black and white terms. If a beta orbiter knows that the odds of failure are 95% for focused orbiting but only a 75% failure rate for diverting his attention to other girls, he can use that information to decide which direction to go in. But if you say sometimes this and sometimes that, he doesn't know which direction to go in. You have to say something absolute, like focused orbiting absolutely drive… | /r/TheRedPill | 03/06/15 07:47 PM |
| 1 | Manage your Expectations - Because Expectations are Root of All Heartbreak.The woman makes her calculations based on which is better for her survival. So, she compares the guy's height against the other mens' heights, his looks against the other men's looks, and his alpha-ness against the other mens' alphaness. She crunches all the numbers and gives him an overall respect score, and that is what determines her level of attraction. But its based on overall survivability. If the guy is the shortest, ugliest guy in her town, but also the most powerful guy in her town, the… | /r/TheRedPill | 02/06/15 05:42 PM |
| 1 | Why do you assume Red Pill men hate women?You don't think you're attracted to alpha, but you're repulsed by beta, which is the same thing. How many guys have been nice to you, only to have you look down on them as weak and pathetic? How many nice guys have said you look nice or beautiful, which made you think they're easily amazed or maybe they've never seen a girl before? Every time they show any respect for you, it causes you to judge them by that, and it makes you assume their attitude is coming from a point of weakness in their own … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/15 03:48 PM |
| 1 | Why do you assume Red Pill men hate women?So, you think men and women are physically different, but psychologically the same? In what way? When it comes to their attitudes about each other, men and women are completely different: Men only care about a woman's looks, and whether she is nice (beta), while women care about mens' personality and social status, and prefer the man to be not a nice guy, but an alpha, someone who knows what he wants. A man would like to see a photo of you in your underwear. While, you would prefer to learn abou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/15 11:06 PM |
| 0 | Why do you assume Red Pill men hate women?Why do you think feminism would make women happy, trying to push them to be more like men? That's jamming them into something they're not, something they could never be, something they could never enjoy. It's like making a dog live like a cat, or vice-versa. It's like raising a son like a daughter and making him wear long hair and dresses, and telling him to play with dolls. That's not what he is and so you're jamming the people into a category that they don't fit. How is that going make them ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/15 06:05 PM |
| 0 | Why do you assume Red Pill men hate women?That song B-A-S-B-H-A-T was a song about an ex-friend and business associate of Dr. Dre named Eric Wright (stage name Eazy-E). The song was intended as a insult about how he prostituted himself in the music business, calling Mr. Wright a bitch, ho, and a trick. It had nothing to do with women and refers to Mr. Wright exclusively. The first verse begins: "I once knew a bitch named Eric Wright". So the chorus is just saying bitches [people like Eric Wright who prostitute themselves in the music in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/15 03:59 PM |
| 1 | Why do you assume Red Pill men hate women?"Treat them like [male] human beings". That means not treating them like female human beings. You're taking women and smooshing them over to the other side, trying to make them into men. They are women, not pieces of clay. And smooshing them into men means you're smooshing them out of their own gender, out of their own role, and not letting them be comfortable as women. You're also disregarding their role in the assumption that women weren't that important anyway, and weren't needed as women. Th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/15 03:30 PM |
| 1 | Why do you assume Red Pill men hate women?But the disagreement is over what is good for women and what makes them happy, not whether to be good to them and try to make them happy. Both groups want to accomplish that, they just disagree over what will accomplish it. We could accuse Blue Pill of wanting to destroy women's happiness with feminism by pushing them away from their natural role, but we know it's not hate because the suffering that they put women through from their efforts is unintentional. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/15 03:04 PM |
| 1 | How do you guys reconcile TRP truths with conventional psychology, as well as conventional science as a whole?The words are pretty tight-there's no wiggle room. Either men and women have fundamentally different personalities and orientations toward relationships or they don't. Their personalities are either fundamentally different or they are fundamentally the same. Their orientations are either fundamentally different or fundamentally the same. If their orientations were fundamentally the same, they would both be attracted to alpha personalities and both be repulsed by beta personalities. Or they would… | /r/TheRedPill | 31/05/15 03:07 AM |
| 1 | How do you guys reconcile TRP truths with conventional psychology, as well as conventional science as a whole?No, it's not gray at all. We have PHDs stating that men and women are fundamentally the same, and that all you need to do is respect your partner, while TRP says women are extremely different and MUST be treated differently or else you will get dumped, turned down, and rejected by them. That is polar opposite advice, so somebody is extremely right and somebody is extremely wrong. You have to either follow the advice one way or the other. You can't do both because they are opposites. | /r/TheRedPill | 31/05/15 02:47 AM |
| 1 | How do you guys reconcile TRP truths with conventional psychology, as well as conventional science as a whole?He specified quite clearly what he thinks is most important in a relationship. He is wrong and all the hamstering in the world won't change that. You're just going to have to change your paradigm to match this reality. Either you agree with TRP or you agree with that guy. Rephrasing it with TRP words is not going to bend that reality to fit this one. One is wrong and one is right. | /r/TheRedPill | 31/05/15 02:18 AM |
| 1 | How do you guys reconcile TRP truths with conventional psychology, as well as conventional science as a whole?What part of the claim that "Men and women have fundamentally different personalities and orientations toward relationships." "is a myth" do you not understand? The phrases are pretty clear: "fundamentally different personalities" and "orientations toward relationships". If you agree with "the scientist" that men and women have fundamentally the same personalities and orientations toward relationships, then there would clearly be no need for TRP's gender-specific techniques. | /r/TheRedPill | 31/05/15 02:08 AM |
| -2 | How do you guys reconcile TRP truths with conventional psychology, as well as conventional science as a whole?I'm talking about what is taught in colleges, which is how people get PHDs. My claim is that they are not being taught any of the TRP truths, but they are being taught many things that conflict with TRP truths. You are listing scientific basis for TRP theory, but TRP theory is in spite of academic science, not thanks to it. All you're doing is hunting down and matching up studies that coincidentally refer to certain aspects of TRP truths that we already knew from our own research. I bet I can hu… | /r/TheRedPill | 31/05/15 01:56 AM |
| -1 | How do you guys reconcile TRP truths with conventional psychology, as well as conventional science as a whole?No. I appreciate any examples you can find of conventional experts agreeing with TRP truths, but I expect that I'll be able to find 100-1 ratio of "experts" disagreeing with TRP to ones agreeing with TRP. That example you cited doesn't appear to support your point in any aspect. Even if you found a person who agrees with a portion of the TRP truths, it would still be the exception by a wide, wide margin. TRP truths are partially based on some scientific studies, but the truths are in spite of th… | /r/TheRedPill | 31/05/15 12:54 AM |
| 2 | How do you guys reconcile TRP truths with conventional psychology, as well as conventional science as a whole?I think TRP is just the tip of the iceberg. Our scientists were extra-motivated to find the truth because they needed to know it in their own lives. But soon I think other areas will be exposed as well. Students spend 99% of their time studying the history of the study of their subject, rather than the actual subject itself. The process is the same across all fields, so there's no way that psychologists are the only ones. They're just the only ones who got caught. | /r/TheRedPill | 31/05/15 12:23 AM |
| -2 | How do you guys reconcile TRP truths with conventional psychology, as well as conventional science as a whole?Conjecture and empirical anecdotes are simply not allowed within the cult of Science and are specifically banned in r/science. If you have any information that doesn't originate from within the cult, they don't want to know it. "Every submission must be a direct link to or a summary of peer-reviewed research with appropriate citations. Peer-reviewed research means the research is published in a scholarly journal which practices the peer-review system." | /r/TheRedPill | 31/05/15 12:11 AM |
| -1 | How do you guys reconcile TRP truths with conventional psychology, as well as conventional science as a whole?Randi Gunther, Ph.D. notes: “We" is a state of mind and heart. It means that wherever one partner is, the other is present in their thoughts. Partners who consider themselves a "we" act that way. When you talk to partners who live with and in the heart of their beloved, you experience that commitment in every way they present themselves. They communicate a pride in belonging to their partner. It's a powerful feeling of "us" over anyone or anything else. See? According to this senior-level priest… | /r/TheRedPill | 30/05/15 11:41 PM |
| 1 | How do you guys reconcile TRP truths with conventional psychology, as well as conventional science as a whole?Here's an example from a senior-level priest of conventional psychology: Myth: Men and women have fundamentally different personalities and orientations toward relationships. This myth is often perpetuated by the popular media. In his best-selling book, Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus, John Gray argues that men and women are so different they might as well come from difference planets. The truth is that sex differences in most areas are relatively small, and there is much more variation … | /r/TheRedPill | 30/05/15 11:14 PM |
| 0 | RooshV slams the Red PillYes, I'm making broad statements to simplify the issue. You have to do that to show the overall trend, the overall direction, the overall relationship. I'm not trying to be perfect, because to do that, people would just get lost in the details and then lose the overall point. It's like saying "I've been waiting a million years" -vs- I've been waiting 3.217MM milliseconds. The point is to make generally correct distinction points that people are not aware of. So, how do you account for TRP? You c… | /r/TheRedPill | 28/05/15 11:51 PM |
| 0 | RooshV slams the Red PillOkay, quick question: how many people from conventional science are teaching Red Pill truths? None. How many students working on their psych majors are studying Red Pill truths? None. Well, if they are not studying these important aspects of men and women, and relationships, then wtf are they studying? They are studying canonized material of the students before them, who gathered their material from the canonized material of the students before them. There's no chance of them ever discovering ne… | /r/TheRedPill | 28/05/15 04:09 PM |
| 1 | Giant article called "Why it Pays to be a Jerk" Confirms RP Truths. Scientific studies cited.Value does not siphon. It either gets created as a result of business partnerships, or otherwise it does not exist anywhere. Bill Gates did not siphon that value from anywhere. He created it out of nothing, and in the process he created extra value for the customers also. If he hadn't set up those business partnerships, that value would not exist for him or the customers, or anyone else anywhere. | /r/TheRedPill | 28/05/15 02:28 PM |
| 0 | RooshV slams the Red Pill"No quality control" Oh, you mean like quality control that conventional science uses, which prevents them from making any new discoveries, such as the Red Pill truths that we had to discover on our own. That lack of quality control is how these things get discovered. Whenever there is control, the "science" just devolves into a dead-end religious hierarchy where the only things people study is toward becoming high priests of dogma. | /r/TheRedPill | 28/05/15 04:36 AM |
| 1 | My Uncle just got hammered.How about alpha provider, the successful man who places his women on a subservient level, and generously cares for and provides for them like a daughter? That would seem to defy all the rp categories. | /r/TheRedPill | 26/05/15 09:02 PM |
| 1 | My Uncle just got hammered."I've rebuilt twice because of divorce". That also means you built twice because of marriage. You're assuming you'll be able to do it again without the marriage, but is that actually happening? This question is for everyone- does anyone know some actual cases where the guy builds up again, or do they just flounder along teetering as if they're missing a support beam? I've been curious as to how much marriage plays a role in success. It's easy to assume you could do the same without a partner, bu… | /r/TheRedPill | 26/05/15 07:56 PM |
| 1 | Red Pill Q&A Thread: Newbies, ask away.Well, I think we need to separate whether he's giving her things she asks for, or whether he's deciding what to give her, and whether his motive is to take care of her like a daughter, or whether he is trying to cater to or please her. So, there's a line somewhere, but it doesn't divide providing for someone vs not providing for someone. It's about who is in charge, who is the supervisor and who is the supervisee. When you draw a line between two points, it will never be level. It will either sl… | /r/TheRedPill | 23/05/15 08:57 PM |
| 1 | Red Pill Q&A Thread: Newbies, ask away.Hi, thanks for the link and...thanks for starting this whole ball rolling and developing what I think is one of the most important breakthroughs in human history. Do you feel that certain types of providing causes a woman to lose her attraction? If that is so, I would definitely want to know. But it seems very unlikely. Here is an argument against it being a factor, and so I was wondering how this would fit in with the concept of beta bucks. I think a man's behavioral influence on a woman's attr… | /r/TheRedPill | 21/05/15 11:55 PM |
| 1 | Red Pill Q&A Thread: Newbies, ask away.I agree with everything else you're saying, and I appreciate your saying it, but I'm just not sold on the idea that attention and nurturing causes a woman to lose her attraction. If it does, I would certainly want to know about that and understand it, but I just can't see how it would. I think a man's behavioral influence on a woman's attraction is completely based on where he fits on the supervision-supplication scale. But that's not determined by how much providing, nurturing, or attention he … | /r/TheRedPill | 21/05/15 11:20 PM |
| 1 | Red Pill Q&A Thread: Newbies, ask away.Those are all good points, but they also fit perfectly into my point: It's all about your performance. A woman ranks your SMV based on your performance. Have a big house? That means you performed well at your job, or that you carry the genetics of someone who performed well at their job. It's a measurement of your performance. In shape? That means you performed well at nutrition, as well as at the gym. Happy, positive? That means you must be performing well at your life. I'm going to skip bone s… | /r/TheRedPill | 21/05/15 10:52 PM |
| 2 | Red Pill Q&A Thread: Newbies, ask away.Well, thanks for your answer and your understanding that you have to say it the wrong way first in order to correct something. I'm not trying to disrupt TRP, which is why I'm confining this discussion to this ask-TRP thread. I'm just trying to understand the lesson of "bucks", and what part of it is destructive, or something I want to make sure not to do. It looks like I have some more reading to do, as there does seem to be evidence of a woman seeking a slightly-less alpha and more nurturing ma… | /r/TheRedPill | 21/05/15 08:55 PM |
| 1 | Red Pill Q&A Thread: Newbies, ask away.Great points, and that's an interesting way to put it. I like to re-state these concepts in different ways to better understand them as well as to see if the discussion triggers any new ones, or any additional dimensions of the ones we have. For a woman, hypergamy is just choosing a better route when one is presented to her. So, a woman's "love" is just the pursuit of the better route. When a woman says "I love you" it just means "I'm choosing this route for now." It all seems so real to her, sh… | /r/TheRedPill | 21/05/15 07:11 PM |
| 1 | Red Pill Q&A Thread: Newbies, ask away.But the alpha is a much better bet to support her later in life. Beta is just a nice-guy, someone who is never going to get promoted, or make any money, or have any social status. He's going to have difficulty supporting himself, let alone another person. | /r/TheRedPill | 21/05/15 07:50 AM |
| 2 | Red Pill Q&A Thread: Newbies, ask away.But, my theory is that it's just one strategy: Women are attracted to alpha men is because they are a better bet for provision and social status. Alpha men get all the promotions in life, and all the power positions in society, and so they make the most money. So, if a woman's goal is to secure the "bucks" for the future, alpha-bucks is the way to go. Beta bucks would be a poor choice because he is likely to get passed over for promotions and eventually laid off, so his money is not always going… | /r/TheRedPill | 21/05/15 07:45 AM |
| 2 | Red Pill Q&A Thread: Newbies, ask away.That's an interesting way to put it, but love doesn't seem to be the ideal word because doesn't a woman also love a man, and so do puppies and children? But to your point, I have come to the conclusion that there is some type of one-way, man-to-woman relationship but I haven't been able to figure out a way to describe it or the one-direction-ness of it. It's a sort of like love, sort of a warmth, caring and focus of attention. Maybe it's control, and that's why it has to be one-way. Control flow… | /r/TheRedPill | 21/05/15 06:23 AM |
| 2 | Red Pill Q&A Thread: Newbies, ask away.I've been curious about the "alpha fucks beta bucks" saying. We all agree we need to be alpha, that point is clear. Women are simply not attracted to beta guys, so being a beta is like being a 5 on a 10 point scale. It's the male equivalence of being ugly. But what is the point of the "bucks" part of the saying? Alphas buy drinks, dinner, and finance a lot of things for the girl also, so is there a situation or point where providing bucks, provisions, or favors for a girl is destructive to your … | /r/TheRedPill | 21/05/15 05:43 AM |
| 4 | "I like your tits" instead of "You have nice tits"Good points. You are beautiful is like saying "your pedestal is way above me." -vs- I like the way you look is just declaring your likes and dislikes. Another interesting style is making "I want" declarations such as "I want your tits". She can't challenge or disagree with that because it's not up to her. You are defining your relationship with her and so, from that point on, you have laid down the law and so that's just the way it is. That brings to mind an interesting exercise: Just go around … | /r/TheRedPill | 20/05/15 06:08 PM |
| 1 | Sunday TRP: Insights from having access to her innermost thoughts and secretsThat is a false connection that has been force-drawn between two separate subjects. How good you are in bed depends on a lot of things, not just experience. There are guys out there with over 50 years experience and are STILL doing it wrong, so I wouldn't rank experience that high. You need the right procedures to start with, as well as have the ability to figure out what works. 2: You need the physical ability- hip, knee, shoulder, elbow, wrist joints all working, and you need good respiration … | /r/TheRedPill | 19/05/15 06:28 AM |
| 2 | I never thought I'd read something that shocked me but damn, AWALTAnyone who has watched the Jerry Springer show, knows that this scenario plays out every time a guy leaves his wife at home alone with another man. Doesn't matter if it's your dad, your uncle or your best friend. Every single time. But as some guys mentioned, where does hypergamy fit into this? Why does the wife sleep with the helpless, needy boarder, but if her husband turns into a beta, she won't sleep with him at all? Isn't the boarder a huge beta? How does he get around her beta-blocker prog… | /r/TheRedPill | 18/05/15 06:55 AM |
| 15 | Sunday TRP: Insights from having access to her innermost thoughts and secretsI don't think it really matters how good you are in bed. Hypergamy is about picking the most viable partner for reproduction. So, all you need to do is be attractive, be the most viable guy, and just be able to fuck her. A woman is attracted to a guy she thinks that other women are attracted to. She might enjoy a jackhammer in bed, but she's not necessarily attracted to the jackhammer. If he slowly turns into a beta jackhammer, she's not going to want to be jackhammered by him anymore. So, if sh… | /r/TheRedPill | 18/05/15 05:14 AM |
| 7 | "You can't have your cake and eat it too."You're taking a logical knife to an emotional gunfight. Never, ever reason with a girlfriend (or plate). Just say awww...knock it off, swat her on the butt, and divert her RAS to something else. If she brings it up again, just say we've already been over this and chide her for her bad behavior. She just wants you to define the relationship in glass-half-full terms and lead her around a bit with robot-like orders: "be my sweetheart, "be my good girl." She wants you to establish with her that she'… | /r/TheRedPill | 16/05/15 08:58 PM |
| 1 | Debtors prisons are an essential tool of our new public policy (1 in 8 men in jail for child support arrears)But, isn't this a child support issue rather than a marriage issue? What could you do differently if you wanted to have kids again? What steps could you take to protect yourself from the mother, so you won't become her slave? I'm just wondering, what's the solution to get around this type of hell? Draw up some type of contract before you get her pregnant? Only have kids with a Non-American? Start a separationist cult? | /r/TheRedPill | 11/05/15 05:23 AM |
| 0 | The US birthrate has collapsed 14% from 2007 to 2012. Now at all-time lows.When people have jobs, they instantly have money to spend. As soon as your neighbor comes into money, he's going to buy things from you, or hire you to help him do things, which transfers money to you. He has to because that's the only way he can get any value out of the money. Otherwise, it's just worthless pieces of paper, until he offers them to you. So, the only way he can unlock the value is to provide some of the value to you. I think you're referring to the mistaken teachings of Keynes, w… | /r/TheRedPill | 10/05/15 01:56 PM |
| 1 | The US birthrate has collapsed 14% from 2007 to 2012. Now at all-time lows.But, you can't be productive AND fall into poverty and debt, because the word productive means you're producing value, which is moving away from being nonproductive. To the extent you are productive is to the extent you're pulling out of poverty and debt. They are opposite directions of the same line. A charity is not supposed to be productive. It's more like a gift so it comes under the heading of consumption. Being productive is going out and applying for a job, planting seeds, tilling the soi… | /r/TheRedPill | 10/05/15 05:40 AM |
| 2 | The US birthrate has collapsed 14% from 2007 to 2012. Now at all-time lows.I don't debate the person, I debate the individual points. But, if you don't have any, or don't have any that you think would carry any weight, then that's another issue entirely. You seem to be shoveling "truths" and beliefs, but carefully avoiding the subject. What are you afraid of? If you can't make a point, then you don't have one. | /r/TheRedPill | 10/05/15 04:03 AM |
| -3 | The US birthrate has collapsed 14% from 2007 to 2012. Now at all-time lows.You mean people need to eat and shouldn't have to be bothered with doing anything that is productive or worthwhile to anybody else? All taking and no giving is no way to live. Some people understand production, while others only understand taking. But when they take, they have to take from the producers. A shortsighted person doesn't understand or even care how things come about, they just want to grab the result The other points seem to be randomly hamstered truths and beliefs gathered up to fi… | /r/TheRedPill | 10/05/15 03:56 AM |
| 2 | The US birthrate has collapsed 14% from 2007 to 2012. Now at all-time lows.I will address your points with individual threads. Time: Your time isn't worth anything on its own. It has no intrinsic value. In fact, someone would be just as likely to pay you to fo rather than pay you to hang around them. The only time your time ever has value is when you do something productive. So, it's not the time itseld, it's what you do with your time that matters. ie produce. ie produce something out of nothing. The only time your time has value is when you can use it to produce some… | /r/TheRedPill | 10/05/15 03:28 AM |
| -3 | The US birthrate has collapsed 14% from 2007 to 2012. Now at all-time lows.But it really doesn't matter who has what. All that matters is whether people are productive and creating value. You could give everyone a million dollars, but that wouldn't accomplish anything. What matters is whether people are doing something that is productive, and useful for themselves and for others. During the Great Depression, people were not productive because the systems we had in place for the economy had all collapsed. And that happened again on a smaller scale on the recent Great Re… | /r/TheRedPill | 10/05/15 01:39 AM |
| -1 | The US birthrate has collapsed 14% from 2007 to 2012. Now at all-time lows.Basically, we need to separate value from money for clarity. Money is just a conversion tool for value. Money seems to pool, but value doesn't. It just either gets created or not created. I went into more detail with the other comment I just posted. | /r/TheRedPill | 10/05/15 01:27 AM |
| 6 | The US birthrate has collapsed 14% from 2007 to 2012. Now at all-time lows.One of the reasons for confusion is that people think of money instead of value. Money gets collected by the bank, and "seems to" pool, but money is just one of the conversion tools for value. One needs to try to focus on the value, not the conversion tool. Value doesn't "pool", "collect" or get sucked away. Ever. For example: Bill Gates created a lot of value with Windows and shared it with us. We received the value of a working computer, which was worth at least twice what we paid for them, an… | /r/TheRedPill | 10/05/15 12:58 AM |
| -7 | The US birthrate has collapsed 14% from 2007 to 2012. Now at all-time lows.Life isn't a zero-sum poker game. You get what you produce. Nobody can hog production because they have to find something to do that is productive and produce it. Production is an on or off thing. You either produce for the economy, or you do not produce for the economy. Those are the only settings. Nobody can produce it for you, or instead of you because your production is your relationship with the economy. The only person who can affect that relationship is you. | /r/TheRedPill | 09/05/15 09:43 PM |
| 0 | [Mod] The Red Pill is not democratic. It cannot be in order to be a viably beneficial system for men.I like to think of TRP as an oasis for ideas, which is where all the red pill truths came from, and why they exist. TRP had to step around the dead carcass of conventional mainstream psychology in order to develop its ideas, because that could never happen in a closed, dead-end system. | /r/TheRedPill | 08/05/15 08:32 PM |
| 1 | I've internalized the AF/BB concept. But seeing it happen in an instant blew mind mind. Check this outInteresting strategy. I don't know if a woman needs the orbiters to be happy, but it does look like it might take some of the pressure off of their attention and validation needs. As I was watching the video, I was thinking about how I don't really understand Owen's focus on the term "provider"? Seems to me, being a provider is irrelevant and has nothing to do with whether or not the guy is a beta. There are just as many Alpha guys buying drinks and dinners as Beta ones- and that's just the pref… | /r/TheRedPill | 08/05/15 01:26 AM |
| 1 | If you really want pussy, then get a side job that involves socializing.How did you go from virgin to fondling every woman you meet at work? Are you sure you're the same guy? DTF is a relational thing. Just because some of the girls at work have that relationship with your smv friend, doesn't mean they're dtf with anyone else. For women, it has everything to do with the guy- the person he is, and very little to do with the act of fucking itself. Men are usually focused on fucking the female body, but women fuck people: the person inside the body. But it's more about… | /r/TheRedPill | 06/05/15 08:38 PM |
| 1 | If you really want pussy, then get a side job that involves socializing.I'd like to hear about your dread game, and how you got over the fear of invading their personal space. No rejections? such as why are you touching me? or wtf is your hand doing on my ass? Or did you start out by yelling their name every time they pass and throwing out your hands for a big hug? That would provide them with some much-needed love, comfort and touch in their life, and so I can see how they would be dtf with the guy who is providing that for them. Does it then become a competition f… | /r/TheRedPill | 06/05/15 01:03 PM |
| 0 | "My rapist doesn't know he's a rapist"Rape isn't about how you fuck the girl. It's how you leave the girl. | /r/TheRedPill | 26/04/15 01:28 PM |
| 2 | Lesson from my father: The 3 roles any married or LTR man, and his woman, should master.The man-to-woman relationship is the key to the whole thing. Once it is established, everything else falls into place. But without it, everything crumbles. Captain:First Mate Man:Wife (Help-Mate) Master:Maid-en Candidate:Running-mate Me Tarzan:You Jane Mr. & Mrs. Your Name. Bread-Winner:Make-Dinner | /r/TheRedPill | 17/04/15 05:15 AM |
| 1 | Lesson from my father: The 3 roles any married or LTR man, and his woman, should master.It is just so easy to punish someone by throttling your attention. It's like seeping oxygen. | /r/TheRedPill | 17/04/15 05:04 AM |
| 3 | Take a Seat Blue PillersI wonder if the big, successful career ruined them for mating and marriage? As doctors and lawyers, how are they going to become someone's wife? How are they going to fold up their ego and become someone's help-mate? How will any of those women be able to look up to a man, and be able to subordinate herself in a Robin-to-Batman relationship? What happens when girls are raised as boys instead of girls? What happens if girls abandon their role? Maybe the female role not that important anymore, and… | /r/TheRedPill | 16/04/15 02:22 PM |
| 1 | 200,000 Sedditors! Simple guide to make Seddit work for you.One thing I've wondered when I see that or a similar rule in other subreddits is: Every sticking point is always going to involve a specific situation with a specific person. So, unless their problem involves some rare, exotic situation that none of us would ever likely encounter, it's always going to be something that will come up for all of us at some point, and so it's pretty much always going to be relevant. Just because the girl in question is a tall Blonde named Susan who has three cats an… | /r/seduction | 09/03/15 05:28 PM |
| 1 | The most unattractive trait of all: trying to attract a womanAll excellent points. But I still think there's a line down the middle of neediness, where on one side, it lowers your value, but on the other side it doesn't. If you tell a girl you need her, she doesn't automatically know why. Most guys will use pedestal words like "beautiful" to push the girl up, which lowers their own value. But pedestalling is a separate issue. So, the question is if you need her, does that cause her to judge your value as being lower, or does it cause her to think of your … | /r/TheRedPill | 31/10/14 07:53 PM |
| 1 | The most unattractive trait of all: trying to attract a womanI'm just trying to resolve the misconception of "neediness" being a bad thing. Mongo man needs the route of the girl. He's willing to take another route, but he expects an answer from each girl. Beta boy needs the route of the girl also, but he is more beta about it, reaching from a lower level. Mongo man reaches from a higher level. The difference between them isn't neediness, it's the level they are needing from. Mongo man needs from the abundance of high expectations and high self-image. Beta… | /r/TheRedPill | 30/10/14 12:55 PM |
| 1 | The most unattractive trait of all: trying to attract a womanMongo need lunch money. Now. I don't think you can separate want from need. They are one and the same. Want used to have a more negative tone to describe people suffering without food. Now it just means pressure to get something, but so does need which implies a slightly stronger pressure to get something. Mongo need lunch money, so you're just going to have to deal with that. Mongo need girl, so she's just going to have to deal with that...one way or the other. Mongo don't care because he need … | /r/TheRedPill | 25/10/14 01:29 PM |
| 2 | The most unattractive trait of all: trying to attract a womanMongo need phone number. Because Mongo need. | /r/TheRedPill | 23/10/14 05:58 PM |
| 5 | The most unattractive trait of all: trying to attract a womanYou can't eliminate neediness because that would wipe out desire as well as approach. You do have to demonstrate that you need her, so we're going to have to split it between strong neediness and weak-kneediness. Weak kneediness is: "I hope you like me, but I don't have much confidence in myself so I'm going to try to approach you slowly, unsure of myself." Strong neediness is: Mongo want, Mongo take. | /r/TheRedPill | 23/10/14 12:58 PM |
| 4 | The most unattractive trait of all: trying to attract a womanDesire implies you think you can have her, and should have her. Sacrifice implies that you think she's someone you don't deserve. She's judging you on how you judge yourself. | /r/TheRedPill | 23/10/14 12:35 PM |
| 1 | Wanna have some fun with a girl? Try "Yes means Yes" Game..Sex is something a guy does to a girl, and so the only aspect of her consent is how she feels about it, or more importantly, how she feels about it afterward. And so "yes means yes" is really just the function of a girl's emotional point-of-view after being "taken". So, it's not as much about how clear the girl's consent is, as it is about how lasting her feeling of consent is. If the girl doesn't feel comfortable after being sexually violated/devoured, for any reason, it doesn't matter how will… | /r/TheRedPill | 01/10/14 07:57 PM |
| 1 | Everything You Know About the Friend Zone is WRONGBoyfriend is a combination of masculine-feminine edge, and provider-providee edge. (Simple) Companion doesn't have any edge, as it doesn't involve any sexual or provider relationship. That's why it belongs in the opposite corner from boyfriend. | /r/seduction | 01/10/14 03:19 PM |
| 7 | Mexican Man decides to give the US life a try with his wife and son. Feminist shit tests ensues. He Masterfully extinguishes the nonsense.Yes, women forget nothing, but she doesn't hate what he did. Asserting his masculinity is not a crime, it's what makes him attractive. She would only hate him if he continued acting like a wuss. | /r/TheRedPill | 29/09/14 03:00 AM |
| 0 | Holding frame got my dick sucked.The Frame Vector: Just hold the frame while looking at her, repeating "That's what I want..." Want is a powerful force. It's like a vector...a tractor beam you can hold on the girl and you can just keep holding it on her until she gives in. Girls usually want to get through it so they can get back to talking. Try to play around with frame vectors and see what kinds of things you can get the girl to do. You can create a compliance ladder by starting out with passing things to you (eg: I want the … | /r/TheRedPill | 05/09/14 04:17 PM |
| -1 | Holding frame got my dick sucked.Just hold the frame while looking at her. "That's what I want..." Want is like an infinite vector, a tractor beam you can hold on her and you can just keep holding it on her until she gives in. | /r/TheRedPill | 05/09/14 03:46 PM |
| 2 | So, I met the "Other Man" today.You might be interested in digging deeper into the meaning of frame. Each time you rephrase it and manipulate it through slighhtly reworded examples, it gains more meaning and relates to more and more situations, and just keeps going. Example- for me just rephrasing it again triggers more: When you frame something for someone, you're packaging it for them. So in a group, one person with a strong personality will play host and package the frame for everyone who is there. The party host directing … | /r/TheRedPill | 29/08/14 03:29 AM |
| 3 | So, I met the "Other Man" today.Much appreciated! It's really exciting to figure these kinds of things out together as a group, and I really wish we could bring everyone along for the ride. But alas, as you mentioned, for a new concept to stick, it has to connect 2 things you already know, trust, and believe in. I've noticed if a proposed concept requires 2 or more new connections that connect to things you already know, but both connections are unfamiliar and go against your current beliefs, that generally requires too much f… | /r/TheRedPill | 27/08/14 07:04 PM |
| 3 | 'wedding in 6 days, and my golddigger just admitted to being with me for my money' AAAAAND SHE IS PREGNANTShe admitted to initially being attracted to his money, which is why she wanted to leave her last boyfriend and start dating him. So, the only thing she was guilty of at that point of wanting a better life and leaving her ex-boyfriend in order to get it. I don't consider that cheating because her goal wasn't sexual, or to have someone on the side, it was to move closer to him and move away from the last boyfriend, and so that might have been the only emotional route she could take to accomplish … | /r/TheRedPill | 26/08/14 06:41 PM |
| 10 | So, I met the "Other Man" today.AMOG was coined by Tyler/Owen to describe when a guy shows up and hijacks your frame in order to make a joke to manhandle/belittle you in front of the girl in order to assert his alpha-ness. The ones I typically run into at bars aren't usually after the girl, they're just asserting their dominance. Identifying them led to the development of AMOG destroyer routines, which I think are well-worth learning so you'll have a straightforward way to shut them down before they succeed in destroying your … | /r/TheRedPill | 26/08/14 07:41 AM |
| 8 | So, I met the "Other Man" today.Frame is the physical and verbal framework of everything around you that is happening. When a passenger gets into your car, you control the frame because you control what is going to happen. When an alpha male of the group (AMOG) interrupts a conversation between you and the girl you are talking with, and takes over the conversation/discussion, he is taking over your and the girl's frame. He is controlling the verbal frame by controlling the focus of the conversation, and by doing that he is als… | /r/TheRedPill | 25/08/14 06:31 PM |
| 1 | I want to reject the red pill.Red pill is not a cult. It's the realization that men and women are different and not interchangable. It the realization that each of the sexes has an evolutionary designed role to play, and stepping outside the boundaries of that role leads to relationship issues, especially loss of attraction, interest and motivation. You think you know better and can carry out your individual preferences, but if you pay attention, you'll realize that stepping outside those boundaries is nearly always to your … | /r/TheRedPill | 22/08/14 05:28 AM |
| 1 | I want to reject the red pill.You don't have a choice. You are male/alpha and women are female/beta. You can't just opt out of it, it's the law of the land. Trying to get a female to accept your being beta is like trying to ride a bicycle backward. The female gears just don't naturally bend that way. | /r/TheRedPill | 22/08/14 05:12 AM |
| 1 | wife convicted for trying to frame husband with child porn imagesThis would be a great idea for a double-reverse frame. Remember, a good frame is one that makes you think that person did it, so they'll get convicted. And it's one degree beyond most people's comprehension, so nobody would ever figure it out. | /r/MensRights | 22/08/14 04:54 AM |
| 1 | Mom jailed after letting kid play in crowded park while she worked, because "what if a man would've come and snatched her"American tyrants, who are still blindly upholding Richard Nixon's ideals, have arrested over 40 million people for their personal preferences, and adding more each year. We are making Hitler and Stalin look like amateurs. Even those guys would be shaking their heads, saying damn, that is fucked up, you really took away all personal and medicinal freedoms? They would accuse us of living in a police state, and be able to tout their system as being more respectful to the individual citizen. Because… | /r/MensRights | 16/07/14 06:10 PM |
| 1 | Mom jailed after letting kid play in crowded park while she worked, because "what if a man would've come and snatched her"3% vs Stalin only arrested 1% during the Great Purge. There's a holocaust of persecution going on right under your nose. Families being ripped apart, lives destroyed. Politicians patting themselves on the back, bragging they are tough on "crime". Yeah, "crimes" you created. Land-locking people with extra laws and limits in their freedom doesn't make you tough on crime. It just makes you an evil tyrant, with more victims. | /r/MensRights | 16/07/14 09:08 AM |
| 34 | Mom jailed after letting kid play in crowded park while she worked, because "what if a man would've come and snatched her"A man did come and snatch her. I think we've reached the point where the police commit more crimes than the criminals. With "fines "and "confiscations" they steal more money than all robbers, burglars, con artists and embezzlers combined. And they commit more kidnappings and holding people for ransom than all the kidnappers world, in fact they commit more violent arrests than Hitler and Stalin combined, numbers-wise AND percentage-wise. We worked so hard to protect ourselves from the dangers of … | /r/MensRights | 15/07/14 03:53 PM |
| 3 | If a date with a girl is not for another week, should I text to keep attraction?You could go either way. Most guys in this community try to avoid texting because they feel it's not only a waste of time, it trains the girl to waste your time, and if you don't know what you're doing, you're just going to lose your frame and either lose all your value or end up in the friendzone. But despite the risks, if you know what you're doing, you can actually strengthen your frame and get the girl really worked up and dying to see you. Here's the rule of thumb: Your texts must always be… | /r/seduction | 09/07/14 05:13 AM |
| 0 | Highly upvoted post in the EMSK subreddit - batteries included, as well as straw men, pedestaling, explaining what love is, emotional abuse, torture. But wait, there's more: "A healthy human being doesn't use sexual strategy."You mentioned people posting their "ignorant ideology". I assume you were deriding anyone who would promote their own ideology, but doesn't feel very secure about it and so they will always cut things off if any logical discussion is presented that doesn't support their case so they can safely stay inside their ideological bubble. | /r/TheRedPill | 02/07/14 07:37 PM |
| 1 | Highly upvoted post in the EMSK subreddit - batteries included, as well as straw men, pedestaling, explaining what love is, emotional abuse, torture. But wait, there's more: "A healthy human being doesn't use sexual strategy."This will be case -vs- case, not a bazillion inbox notifications of empty arguments like you received from your initial comment. Those guys have already moved on and so it's just you and me. Unless you're not quite sure of your case and don't feel confident to discuss it on any scientific level. | /r/TheRedPill | 02/07/14 05:52 PM |
| 1 | Highly upvoted post in the EMSK subreddit - batteries included, as well as straw men, pedestaling, explaining what love is, emotional abuse, torture. But wait, there's more: "A healthy human being doesn't use sexual strategy."Okay, I'm up for the challenge. For clarity, I'll give each item it's own thread so I can take the time to read and debate each citation. What might seem initially as overwhelming evidence, could be just a collection of cherry-picked dots being forcefully connected, just like some conspiracy videos I've seen, and the studies themselves can be flawed circle-jerks of misinformation between professor and student on college campuses, as they excitedly but unscientifically try to prove a popular agen… | /r/TheRedPill | 02/07/14 04:43 PM |
| 1 | Highly upvoted post in the EMSK subreddit - batteries included, as well as straw men, pedestaling, explaining what love is, emotional abuse, torture. But wait, there's more: "A healthy human being doesn't use sexual strategy.""psychological abuse" I assume you are referring to the aspect of TheRedPill members opting out of the Twentieth Century experiment of the homogenization of men and women? So it is "psychological abuse" whenever a certain culture doesn't get it's way? It is "psychological abuse" to respect gender roles, which are the result of millions of years of evolutionary fine-tuning? | /r/TheRedPill | 02/07/14 06:17 AM |
| 3 | Finding a girl at a music festivalI've thought about using that, but the problem is it puts them on the spot. What some of them might hear is: Want me to bother you for the next half-hour? The problem is, you're basically asking them to consider you as a boyfriend or date, before they have that level of comfort with you. Better to rephrase it in a more harmless form. Hey, where's your boyfriend, is your guy here? Oh, you don't have someone? Now it's sort of a shit test for her. She'll be too busy defending/justifying herself for… | /r/seduction | 26/06/14 07:27 AM |
| 3 | Girl texts me each and every day after date #1. I don't want to ruin it by my text game. What do I do?Instead of small talk, which accomplishes nothing besides emasculating and friendzoning yourself, you need to make sure you talk to her man to woman, and frame everything around that. I would bait her and tempt her like a dog on a leash by telling her about all the fun, romantic things you're going to be doing when you get together as well as all the romantic things you would be doing if she was here with you right now. Paint a scenic picture with both you and her in it. If she starts to hammer … | /r/seduction | 26/06/14 06:09 AM |
| 6 | Man accidentally "rapes" his girlfriendYeah, I was cringing at all the apologizing he's doing. Her respect for him is hemorrhaging badly with his constant beta-begging and badgering, while he is at the same time drowning her in suggestive/imposed negativity. If he doesn't STFU, it will very quickly become a self-fulfilling prophesy, which will end the relationship. And then he'll think it was because he raped her. It's the relationship version of accidentally swerving and then over-compensating by crossing into oncoming traffic. | /r/TheRedPill | 26/06/14 05:24 AM |
| 1 | 28 year old goes to TwoXChromosomes for support because The Wall is approaching. She wonders if she should have been so "relaxed" about dating and she says she's scared about "freezing eggs" to have kids. She wants to know what she has to do to make guys like her as 30 looms. Classic Wall anxiety.I'm just describing what's happening. Maybe some will get lucky? Good luck with counting on luck to fix the problem. | /r/TheRedPill | 24/06/14 07:27 AM |
| 0 | 28 year old goes to TwoXChromosomes for support because The Wall is approaching. She wonders if she should have been so "relaxed" about dating and she says she's scared about "freezing eggs" to have kids. She wants to know what she has to do to make guys like her as 30 looms. Classic Wall anxiety.It doesn't look like a woman can divide her focus and survive. (Same link as above.) | /r/TheRedPill | 24/06/14 06:59 AM |
| 31 | 28 year old goes to TwoXChromosomes for support because The Wall is approaching. She wonders if she should have been so "relaxed" about dating and she says she's scared about "freezing eggs" to have kids. She wants to know what she has to do to make guys like her as 30 looms. Classic Wall anxiety.You are absolutely right, she is already fucked. It's a race she has already lost, mostly due to her culturally-induced self-confidence and independence that allowed her to think she could afford to hold out for the perfect guy. She's had almost 15 years to date and try to find the right guy, but spent nearly all of her time and focus on school, college and career. So, what does she and her parents have to show for making those choices? Nothing. Their family line likely ends right there. Think a… | /r/TheRedPill | 24/06/14 02:51 AM |
| 2 | This is why you aren't CLOSING.Yes, that's a great point- Your value and level of attraction are a big factor in closing. To break it down even farther, a girl's attraction to you is a function of her perception of your value to others and her perception of your attractiveness to others. So, instead of showing her you play the guitar, show her all the people who enjoy listening to you play the guitar. Is Myspace still used for that? And show her girls that want to talk with you, or point out ones that look at you. "I wonder w… | /r/seduction | 16/06/14 05:21 PM |
| 1 | How does one project sexuality without coming off creepy/desperate? How do you slowly escalate it?Mindset is not going to give you something to talk about, or direct the conversation toward sex. You're taking the carefully-stitched content above for granted, as if you think anyone could just spontaneously come up with a cool joke that segue-ways things toward sex. That would be a great ability to have, but I doubt anyone here has that ability. | /r/seduction | 16/06/14 04:44 PM |
| 1 | How does one project sexuality without coming off creepy/desperate? How do you slowly escalate it?These are really valuable. Are there any more you can remember? | /r/seduction | 15/06/14 05:31 AM |
| 2 | The measure of sexual success is desireThe measure of an eloquent, vivid post worth archiving. | /r/TheRedPill | 03/06/14 09:38 PM |
| 54 | [FR] I just picked up the hottest girl in my collegeI noticed you didn't tell her she's the most beautiful girl at school, or that you even find her attractive at all, or that you even like her at all. You didn't give her any validation, or diffuse any of your own value or potential. Now she knows she'll have to earn your attraction, respect, emotion and attention, because you already showed her you don't give those things out for free. | /r/seduction | 28/04/14 10:21 PM |
| 1 | The Tender Defender, the nice asshole.You could accidently bump into her, or push her into her chair when she sits down and tickle her when she's on the phone. | /r/seduction | 22/04/14 10:27 PM |
| 1 | Downplaying features of a girl?Equalibrium: The key is to push her slightly off balance, so she will try to right herself by qualifying herself. You have to come across as a little judgemental in order to get a girl to take the bait. | /r/seduction | 22/04/14 10:20 PM |
| 1 | Ask her "What's your sexual fantasy?" and see for yourselfWow, did you screen them for that? I've never met a girl who had a fantasy of a threesome. Was that random or screened? That's like finding money. Shit, all you gotta do is take her to the nearest bar and pick out a girl together like you're picking out a bedspread at Macy's. Shall we get the platinum blonde or the beige one? Fuck it, we'll get both! | /r/seduction | 18/04/14 03:05 AM |
| 0 | Depressed and confused...I honestly have no idea how people hook up, find girlfriends, get married etc.You can try to learn game, which takes a lot of study, hard work and practice. It's sort of like learning Kung-fu, not something you can master in a day, a week, or even perhaps a month. But I think there's an easier route: Just join an online dating service and start dating several girls at a time, and just take your time to get to know them. By dating several girls, you will be outcome-independent. And more importantly, the girls will know you are outcome-independent, which makes you much, muc… | /r/seduction | 17/04/14 03:10 PM |
| 1 | What is your Iron Law?Mark Manson is the first in the PUA community to come up with the idea that the girl is "rooting for you". That was one of the most valuable breakthroughs in the field of pickup, because it resolves the biggest factors of Approach Anxiety: the fear that you're bothering the girl. By assuming she is conditionally rooting for you, you can feel like you are doing something nice for the girl by approaching her. It was a powerful breakthrough, and so whenever you repeat something like that, it is nic… | /r/seduction | 10/04/14 12:17 AM |
| 2 | Best self-improvement books?Let's compare: 4 hours of pickup -vs- 4 hours of reading. 4 hours of pickup -vs- reading Models. 4 hours of pickup -vs- reading The Game. 4 hours of pickup -vs- 4 hours watching RSD Julien videos. The ideal would probably be one hour of study followed by 1 hour of pickup. The advantage of hitting the books and videos is that each one of these guys: Mark, Mystery, Neil, Owen and Julian have already experimented with thousands of approaches and figured out the best methhods through trial and error… | /r/seduction | 09/04/14 11:36 PM |
| 1 | Ask her "What's your sexual fantasy?" and see for yourselfSo, what were some of them? And were you able to get her to feel it again while she was telling you about it? The hardest part is figuring out how to get her to open up, and egging her on. Most women are too afraid of getting categorized, so you would somehow have to make her feel safe and get her riled up into a positive feedback circle. | /r/seduction | 05/04/14 07:26 PM |
| 2 | The November man - An easier version of the October man - 15 Questions to get the girl into bedExcellent list. So, what are some questions that would draw out her feelings and allow her to re-live a sexual experience? | /r/seduction | 05/04/14 05:24 PM |
| 1 | Ask her "What's your sexual fantasy?" and see for yourselfI recently came to the realization that seduction is a series of decisions, which can be triggered by a series of questions. It sounds like you've discovered something similar, a series of questions that elicit re-telling and then re-living a past sexual experience. So, combining the two, we could ask the woman how it felt when she first decided to share that feeling with someone. Does she like sharing that feeling? Is she spontaneous? Does she like the thrill of having a man's hands on her, fee… | /r/seduction | 05/04/14 03:55 PM |
| 1 | AMA Request: RSD JulienI think a shit test is more of an indicator of a weak frame. The girl has seen a weakness and is assuming she can just take over and shut you down, which means you haven't done a good enough job asserting your dominance over her frame. | /r/seduction | 04/04/14 03:43 PM |
| 1 | Ask her "What's your sexual fantasy?" and see for yourselfsounds amazing...story? | /r/seduction | 04/04/14 03:27 PM |
| 1 | How do you move past the teasing stage in flirting?You don't ever move past it. Tell her, you're not going to take you out tomorrow night unless she stops being such a ______. | /r/seduction | 24/02/14 04:10 AM |
| 1 | Negging vs. supplication in normal everyday interactions?Saying her dress, or anything about her is pretty doesn't increase your value one bit. And if it's the first thing you say to her, it makes you sound like a chump who's never seen a dress before and is easily amazed. | /r/seduction | 24/02/14 04:04 AM |
| 1 | 3 lays in 5 days this week. bunch of shit has clicked after 2 years of doing PU, wanna write out some stuff that doesn't get talked about too often.No, I really appreciate your advice, and the outcome independence is dead-on, but seems like it would be difficult to make the moves that lead to sex while maintaining O.I. At some point you have to reach for her boobs, reach around to unhook her bra, reach down to rub her crotch, and undo her pants. How would you make yourself outcome independent of that? Make it a game about how quickly she grabs your hand, pushes it away and says no? I mean when you're trying get her to peel those tight jeans… | /r/seduction | 20/02/14 04:53 AM |
| 1 | 3 lays in 5 days this week. bunch of shit has clicked after 2 years of doing PU, wanna write out some stuff that doesn't get talked about too often.I wonder, should I have been that skeptical and disappointed...Or was I in the wrong frame of mind? The only reason I got that frustrated was because while we were making out, I could tell the girl was really horny, so I started pushing for sex and started assuming we were going to have sex. If I had just gone in with the assumption that we're just going to fool around a little, I would have just done it half-heartedly and wouldn't have tried for sex and so I wouldn't have been disapointed. The … | /r/seduction | 19/02/14 03:55 AM |
| 1 | How to qualify girls?Yeah, that's why it's so hard to do. But still, if you could remember some of them, at least they might give us some ideas to work off of. His neg ratio seems like it would require a lot of punishment: spank, spank, spank, spank, spank, spank, spank, spank, spank, kiss spank, spank, spank, spank, spank, spank, spank, spank, spank, kiss | /r/seduction | 18/02/14 06:23 PM |
| 1 | 3 lays in 5 days this week. bunch of shit has clicked after 2 years of doing PU, wanna write out some stuff that doesn't get talked about too often.Hey, thanks man! So you always their own hornieness to ram them through the barrier? Or is it more carrot and stick where you punish them for stopping you with a ratcheting series of freezeouts? I've just run into a couple women who seem to be able to take an unlimited amount of making out and dry humping, and still won't let you cross any boundaries. They have it made up in their minds that letting you will cause you to only like them for that. And so when you give up at the end of the night, y… | /r/seduction | 18/02/14 06:12 PM |
| 0 | 3 lays in 5 days this week. bunch of shit has clicked after 2 years of doing PU, wanna write out some stuff that doesn't get talked about too often.Hey, congrats on your success! So, I'm curious: What would you do if you ran into one of the perpetual get-to-know-you types, someone who is really into you and comes on really strong and passionate when you touch her, but clings very tightly to the belief that you should only have sex with someone after you realiy, really get to know them? Would you try to wait it out, going on four or five dates with them and keep trying? Would you try to weed them out with values questions? and at what point … | /r/seduction | 18/02/14 09:32 AM |
| 2 | How to qualify girls?Actually, qualifiers are questions you ask the girl in order to control the frame and to see if she is qualified/good enough to date you. Basically, you act like she's applying for a job. Asking her some hard questions is a great way to take her down a notch, or maybe just one or two if you just want to watch her squirm a little: "So, do you have much experience dating?" "Why are you single?" or "Why aren't you already with someone?" "What do you have to offer in a relationship, what do you brin… | /r/seduction | 18/02/14 07:33 AM |
| 1 | Why Nice Guys & Gals Finish Last in Love | Psychology Today (x-post from Psychology)Thanks! And that's a great example bringing up how they like guys who are "projects". I wonder if that also could be used as a technique of seduction: Framing yourself as a project. You first have to demonstrate some type of higher value to get her initial respect, but then if you can get her interested in growing you in some new direction, that will definitely get her invested. And it's doubly valuable if it's something you want to improve. "I'd like to become better at understanding people." | /r/seduction | 11/02/14 08:56 PM |
| 1 | Why Nice Guys & Gals Finish Last in Love | Psychology Today (x-post from Psychology)I think being a little cranky frames and enhances the required? male edge, causing the edge of your pedestal to rise slightly above hers, increasing her attraction. I was thinking about the Franklin effect some more. An investment can't be just any favor, it has to be one that builds or grows something. Asking a girl just to borrow her pen is a favor that doesn't build anything. But asking her how you can get involved or improve your knowledge is like asking her to water you like a plant. You be… | /r/seduction | 11/02/14 07:08 PM |
| 1 | Why Nice Guys & Gals Finish Last in Love | Psychology Today (x-post from Psychology)I agree- Getting a girl to invest seems like a really valuable aspect of seduction. I wonder if the Ben Franklin effect may not just be an option, but a requirement in some ways? But what are some types of favors we can ask a girl to do? Aside from the inevitable joke answers, which I look forward to reading, here are a few to add to the list: Drinks: I need to talk with my friend over there for a sec. (pulls money out) Wanna go to the bar and get us a couple drinks and I'll meet you back here? … | /r/seduction | 11/02/14 06:07 PM |
| 2 | Your GOAL should be to get rejected.A groundbreaking article such as this can often result in a giant "whooshhh" sound if it's a step beyond what is currently known and accepted. The paradox of learning is that one must be presented with information and points of view that one is unfamiliar with, doesn't already understand, and as such, will lean towards a tendency to reject. So an extraordinary effort must be made to tie the information to what is already known and accepted. I think everyone here agrees that seduction requires ou… | /r/seduction | 10/02/14 05:56 PM |
| 1 | My OKCupid experiment is over. FINALLY was deleted/banned. x-post /r/OKCupidThat's interesting. I've been in some heated discussions with some women over what is a reasonable amount of time to get to know each other, vs the cutoff for "sorry it doesn't seem to be working out." And with some, I've had to even force their hand by saying that to them. The problem is our culture instructs them to follow the "get to know you" rule, and then we as guys are left having to determine whether the girl is sincere about getting to know us, or just using that as a perpetual excuse. … | /r/seduction | 07/01/14 05:47 PM |
| 3 | My OKCupid experiment is over. FINALLY was deleted/banned. x-post /r/OKCupidJust curious: How many dates would you take a girl who was not working out on, before giving up on her and moving on to the next? Reminds me of the Ludacris verse: "If they ain't cuttin' then I put 'em on foot patrol". And with a pool of 100 girls, there must have been some that were pretty f-ing amazing. How did you just walk away from those ones? Seems like you'd want to keep at least some of them. | /r/seduction | 07/01/14 07:16 AM |
| 1 | [Off topic] Keeping a girlfriend once I've got oneThose are all good points, you do have to engage on a certain level and let her catch you sometimes, but I still think attraction is pursuit. So if you want to keep attraction, I think you have to give her something to look forward to, reach for or pursue. You can keep a girlfriend without using pua gaming, but I don't think you can keep her attraction without using some elements of it. For example, I think Social Proof is always going to be a requirement. If your girlfriend ever gets the idea t… | /r/seduction | 01/12/13 05:38 PM |
| 3 | One of the best guides I have found on stripper game, applicable to many hired guns as wellI'll try to sum up the article with fewer words, and add in what I've observed works: Try to go to to the club early when the the ratio of patrons per stripper is 5-1 or less. If it's more like 20-1, they'll be too busy to talk and so you won't be able to get ge a word in edgewise. Don't tip a stripper or buy a lapdance because you don't want her to associate her relationship with you with money; you want it to be personal. Don't act like you're trying to impress her, and don't pursue her or ask… | /r/seduction | 29/11/13 06:24 AM |
| 2 | One of the best guides I have found on stripper game, applicable to many hired guns as wellYes, if you ask her number, she'll associate you with all the other guys that ask for it. You gotta talk her into going on a date with you first, so the number becomes just part of the logistics. You want the girl to be so excited about going on the fun date you framed out for her, she practically jams her number into your hand. That's also someone who will definitely answer your call or text. | /r/seduction | 29/11/13 05:28 AM |
| 2 | I am a bad shit-test taker. Can someone explain to me "agree and amplify" for someone who seems to be completely clueless?You're a little younger than my last girlfriend, but I won't hold that against you. | /r/seduction | 27/11/13 04:39 PM |
| 3 | I am a bad shit-test taker. Can someone explain to me "agree and amplify" for someone who seems to be completely clueless?"That's dumb." is a pretty common one: Yeah, it's amazing I even found my way in here. Or you could flip the frame around and grab hold of the guy's leash and chide him with: "you sure took a while to figure that out. Wheels turning kind of slow tonight?" And then like a good boss, you should always follow up with some type of encouragement: "That's okay, you're trying, and you're actually catching some things.....eventually." I think it's good to practice being the frame boss. A dog can't bite … | /r/seduction | 26/11/13 06:51 PM |
| 2 | Girls I didn't notice were into me ~ May my hindsight help you!I see two things going on: You're taking too long to read their signals, and even when you do, you're never ready to act on them. One way you can catch the signals faster is to expect them. When you go into a grocery store, expect your next girlfriend to pop up. Then when she does, you're ready to talk to her because you were expecting her. And whenever you talk to a girl, you should already be thinking of her as a girlfriend, so when she gives a signal, you're ready and you've already decided w… | /r/seduction | 26/11/13 04:40 PM |
| 47 | I am a bad shit-test taker. Can someone explain to me "agree and amplify" for someone who seems to be completely clueless?Agree and amplify is about destroying a shit test by blowing it up and making a joke out of it: You look pretty young. Yeah, I'm getting my braces in next month. Are you hitting on me? Yeah, do you think we should have a big wedding, or just invite our closest friends and family? How much have you had to drink? All of it...there's no more left. | /r/seduction | 26/11/13 03:33 PM |
| 1 | IT HAS TO BE SAID: Stop wasting time on girls who say they have boyfriends.I was thinking (correct me if Im wrong) that girls who are 8 1/2 - 10 and successful generally date guys who look okay, dress okay and have a good job. Whenever I see couples like that, the guy just looks like an average guy. But they all seem to have an above average confidence level. They look like someone who has got it together, who can handle their business and stand up for themselves, so in that regard, they are 10s. That is I think where clothes can make a difference. It takes a certain l… | /r/seduction | 23/11/13 12:53 AM |
| 2 | I would appreciate some commentary on this...My guess is that females that opt for beta males would be a rarity at less than 5% of the population, just because their default setting is to be attracted to the alpha male. But there might be a larger group of females who are stuck in situations with beta males, because they might not have much of a choice in picking suitors, simply because being females, if they see a guy they want, they might not be aggressive enough to make a move. She might say she wants the alpha dude, but unless he pushe… | /r/seduction | 22/11/13 06:48 AM |
| 1 | IT HAS TO BE SAID: Stop wasting time on girls who say they have boyfriends.Hey Josh, I just got an idea after all this talk of 10s and bfs. It's so clear to me now: From now on, I think we should hit on every 10 we see, and game them like normal chicks. If you can keep your cool, and don't let them know they're blindingly beautiful to you, I think they will act and treat you the same as normal chicks do. The snag usually is that they all have boyfriends, but there's a way around that if we're patient. I think we should game them anyway and try to get their number "as a… | /r/seduction | 22/11/13 06:24 AM |
| 0 | Going out with a "10" tonight.. Help lolI don't see how you're not going to fuck it up, but here's hoping you don't. The best thing you can do is try to forget she's a 10. It's like being on a cliff- don't ever look down because you'll lose your cool. And don't ever tell her. She doesn't know and she doesn't see it, so it's best to keep it to yourself. If you tell her, she'll just think you're lame and easily amazed/amused. Now the hard part: How the hell are you going to feel/display alpha-ness, attraction, confidence and abundance, … | /r/seduction | 22/11/13 05:55 AM |
| 1 | Co-worker taught me a lesson, time for a new approachI'm going to print this lesson out and carry it with me as a reminder that whenever you see an opportunity to pick up a pretty girl, there's always going to be another guy who will come along who will be more than happy to take advantage of this opportunity to get the girl. There was a girl who set up a free sampling stand outside my store, so I spoke to her for a good 30-40 minutes straight, asking questions about work, what she enjoys and honestly tried hard to make her laugh/impress her. I go… | /r/seduction | 21/11/13 11:57 PM |
| 1 | Knowing how/when to approach girls"Dropping Hooks" - I like that, but now I'm even thinking of it as setting people off like fireworks. The goal is to trigger someone to talk, get them to react, and spark an emotion. | /r/seduction | 21/11/13 08:13 PM |
| 1 | Hey. I'm Cooper. And it's time for me to get back in the Game."[both] Girls I talk to sense that I'm in it for one night, and outside of a party/bar atmosphere, it doesn't work." You're letting two or three girls speak for the group. What you need to do is go out more so you have a large enough sample that you can sort them into categories, and then you can simply sort out the ones who are holding out for a relationship. By sorting them into categories you will no longer think of any individuals like that representing the whole group. | /r/seduction | 21/11/13 08:01 PM |
| 2 | Co-worker taught me a lesson, time for a new approachSome people want to know what phrase to use, although it is often recommended on here for people to just try to fix the words on the fly, and practice doing it that way in order to force themselves to get better at it, because once they do, pickup will become much easier for them. But, for those who like to delve into the poetry of crafting phrases for pickup, here are some he could have used to close the deal: The four steps are 1) Open/Declare your interest in the girl. 2)Talk. 3) Frame the vi… | /r/seduction | 21/11/13 07:38 PM |
| 1 | IT HAS TO BE SAID: Stop wasting time on girls who say they have boyfriends.I was thinking 2 minutes seems like a long time when you're in the middle of a pickup. Assuming each sentence is about 8 seconds, with 2 second pauses between them, that's 6 communications per minute, so 2 minutes would be about 12 communications, which seems like it would give you plenty of room to turn around an initial IOD and get the girl to warm up and give you a sense of whether she really has a bf or not. But you've probably gone through these situations more times than I have, so perhaps… | /r/seduction | 21/11/13 06:03 PM |
| 1 | Hey, it's Rich "Gambler" La Ruina, ask me (pretty much) anything :)Thank you! I want to tell you I really appreciate all your hard work and innovations you've contributed to pickup. I also want to tell you I am pretty inventive myself and have been coming up with amazing new innovations nearly every week. But if I had a bounce partner, I believe I could increase my output 10-fold by building one idea off another. Right now, each innovation I come up with just winds up being only 1 step forward and then stops because I don't have anyone to build upon it, and I s… | /r/seduction | 21/11/13 05:34 PM |
| 2 | My friend gets opened/pursued/messaged a lot by random girls he doesn't talk to.It makes them feel loved. | /r/seduction | 21/11/13 05:02 PM |
| 2 | My friend gets opened/pursued/messaged a lot by random girls he doesn't talk to.It's all in the eyes. You know that sparkling look a father has when he loves his daughter? If a guy wears that look, it makes the girls feel like he loves them like that too, and that's what makes them melt. | /r/seduction | 21/11/13 04:58 PM |
| 1 | IT HAS TO BE SAID: Stop wasting time on girls who say they have boyfriends.Interesting point, but I'm kind of on the fence. Yes it lowers the odds, but what, exactly are we protecting ourselves from...wasting 2 more minutes pursuing a longer shot? We also need to factor in the cost of discarding the approach. If she's truly unavailable, over the next two minutes she'll probably shoot down every effort you make to get to know her and give you solid IODs. But if she gives you IOIs, it seems worth a shot to ask for her number. And if she lies about having a bf, but then y… | /r/seduction | 21/11/13 08:16 AM |
| 9 | My friend gets opened/pursued/messaged a lot by random girls he doesn't talk to.It's probably in his eyes. Remember, girls always look at your eyes first. If he just goes around all day giving girls the sweet-eye look, they will just melt all over him. I once knew a guy who had it, and girls were always after him. It's kind of a dazed, happy, peaceful, loving look. The sparkling eyes of a father who loves his daughter. The sweetest, most loving eyes will knock a girl over because it makes her feel loved like that. Just practice in the mirror until you get it down, and then … | /r/seduction | 21/11/13 07:26 AM |
| 1 | How to deal with flakey women (part 2 of 2)Really intelligent techniques, especially the preemptive rejection, although it might be a bit too advanced for average comprehension. This is similar to a tease I sometimes use, telling a girl about how sorry I am she missed out on some date or event and how much fun we had or would have had. It takes advantage of the loss theory: that things you lose or fear losing are far more valuable than things that are easily available. So, any event the girl misses out on can create more attraction/antic… | /r/seduction | 20/11/13 05:06 AM |
| 1 | Hey, it's Rich "Gambler" La Ruina, ask me (pretty much) anything :)Hi Richard, I'm studying how to touch a girl when you first approach her. This is assuming a quieter venue, where one can't take advantage of your whispering touch techniques. Do you put your hand or fingers on her forearm, her upper arm, or her shoulder? When, how often and for how many seconds? Do you sometimes grab their shoulder like an old person trying to keep their balance? I want to learn how to touch a girl as I talk to her, without her noticing. | /r/seduction | 20/11/13 04:33 AM |
| 1 | What women mean when they say they want a nice guy.Good point: Some girls don't trust compliments because they usually come from supplicating guys and fake friends, while teasing insults usually only come from confident guys and real friends. | /r/seduction | 20/11/13 03:54 AM |
| 1 | Any tips on getting a girl's number at a coffee shop?I'm working on finding ways to ask strings of qualifying questions to generate their appetite for the little validation feedings you give them afterwards. | /r/seduction | 17/11/13 11:43 PM |
| 1 | Any tips on getting a girl's number at a coffee shop?What's your return rate? I'm thinking it would be 5% or less, which might not be worth the time it takes to do it. Still, a lot of guys get a 90% flake rate on girls they did talk to- anyway, so if you can get half that by not talking...maybe it's not so bad. My concern is it might only be 1-2%. | /r/seduction | 17/11/13 11:36 PM |
| 1 | Lost libido?Stay out of the hot tub. | /r/seduction | 17/11/13 07:39 PM |
| 1 | Why women flake (post 1 of 2)Interesting point: To keep a girl's sense of freedom you need to provide her with little windows and escape hatches like time constraints so she won't feel confined. | /r/seduction | 16/11/13 08:40 AM |
| 7 | How do you respond to a pity pat?I think puas sometimes give pity pats to girls to establish their alpha relationship with them. If a girl gives you one, you could neg her for giving you such a lame hug. "What are you, my grandma?" | /r/seduction | 14/11/13 03:39 AM |
| 1 | A question about the calculated take-away.Sorry to hear that. It's good to be busy. I realize this is a very narrow part of sarging. I prefer to focus on one thing and try to get good at it. | /r/seduction | 14/11/13 03:12 AM |
| 1 | A question about the calculated take-away.Hey, I noticed you're in Philadelphia also. Want to get together somewhere practice doing kino and takeaways? I need to work on learning how to troll girls by baiting them with stuff they want and then jerking it away from them in order to get them to chase or reach for it. The bait can be an interesting story, news about something, a drink, or a peacock item (Mystery loves to wear interesting bait items so he can neg girls for wanting to touch them.) It's basically treating girls like playful c… | /r/seduction | 13/11/13 05:01 PM |
| 1 | The art of losing interestGood post. Fine-tuning a girl is very seductive. | /r/seduction | 11/11/13 02:24 PM |
| 1 | Sex on a first dateSocial sniping: Does it work or does it just give people the illusion they're climbing another rung on the social ladder. | /r/seduction | 11/11/13 02:14 PM |
| 2 | Game Yourself & Girls will be drawn to you! - How to achieve real results and less flakes!I'm in the US. I think the best time to post is around 7-9AM Eastern because fewer people post in the morning and more people are reading at that time. I enjoy focusing on the differences between girls and guys. Girls have a psychic ability to judge your mood and your attitude towards life so they're not just listening to your words. They are also group-oriented so they judge you by your interaction with the people around you and then again when they talk to their girlfriends about you. | /r/seduction | 11/11/13 02:11 PM |
| 1 | Sex on a first dateHave you ever heard a girl say that a guy called her a slut for wanting sex? Or heard a guy call a girl a slut for wanting sex? I've only ever heard girls do that to each other so they can feel superior, and it started in school when some of them started having sex with boys. | /r/seduction | 11/11/13 01:49 PM |
| 1 | Opening at gym line...I see your point now. You're right: no matter what her answer is, you have a strong alpha edge over her. | /r/seduction | 11/11/13 01:35 PM |
| 1 | Opening at gym line...Or you could ask the positive side: Do you like/are you interested in meeting people at the gym? You could test her out first with hi, how are you?, how's your workout going? If she grunts a 1 syllable answer, she doesn't really feel like talking. Or she might respond cheerfully which means she's up for talking. | /r/seduction | 11/11/13 05:11 AM |
| 1 | Game Yourself & Girls will be drawn to you! - How to achieve real results and less flakes!Sorry, I missed this one. Anytime you post a thread late at night, it is at risk of dropping off the page before anyone sees it. Great point: Girls mirror ourselves emotionally so make sure to be a good mirror for them to emulate. | /r/seduction | 11/11/13 05:00 AM |
| 1 | A question about the calculated take-away.A takeaway can also be any barrier you set up to tease the girl around with something she wants, and then you wait for her to bust her way through the barrier to get it. Turning away until she turns you back or tries to get your attention is one. Another type of takeaway can be introducing an interesting story (or using one she introduced), and then introducing another topic to interrupt (oh, look at that), and then waiting for the girl to bust through the interruption and bring you back to the … | /r/seduction | 11/11/13 12:55 AM |
| 1 | There should be more analysis for the environmental reason behind our successes.Yes, that's a good point. Every girl you see could potentially be an ideal situation: Someone who recently broke up with her boyfriend and has been feeling lonely watching all her friends hooking up all around her, while no one has approached her yet, and so she's just waiting for someone like you to approach her and make her day. | /r/seduction | 10/11/13 10:42 PM |
| 1 | Real Talk: Spinning Plates vs. MonogamyI agree that you can keep the upper edge just by being a high value man, but I think it's important to focus on keeping that upper-edge to remind ourselves not to ever say or do anything that loses it. Having an upper-edge doesn't give you any special advantage other than protecting you from the downside threat that if you ever wind up with the under-edge, you automatically lose the girl. She is programmed like a machine to lose her attraction if she ever judges you as having the under-edge. Spi… | /r/seduction | 09/11/13 04:03 PM |
| 1 | Jason Treu and Brent Smith, dating coaches, join our AMA!Majority of people. But, to your point, she could be hot to a slight majority of young guys who are ethnically similar, so seeing you as one of those she might expect you to find her hot. But you can still pretend to be in the other 45% that sees her as a regular person. Any time you admit to a girl being hot, you risk losing your edge, your value and her respect. You can tell her you like her, but never, ever say she's hot compared to other girls because that has no positive value and only lowe… | /r/seduction | 08/11/13 07:56 PM |
| 1 | Real Talk: Spinning Plates vs. MonogamyYes, I didn't mean in all areas of life so I took out the statement that could have been interpreted that way. I was making the argument about how different we are, but left out the limitation that obviously, women perform very well in the workplace, and have many of the same wants as men. The focus of this discussion is on why men are required by women to have the upper edge to be attracted to us, and why men prefer/require women to have the under edge. Over millions of years it was required fo… | /r/seduction | 08/11/13 07:49 PM |
| 1 | Jason Treu and Brent Smith, dating coaches, join our AMA!I'm glad you made that point because it helped me to clarify mine. One other aspect people don't consider is that there are two scales: the national scale and your own scale. I recently picked up a girl who is around a 9 on the national scale- she's thin with large breasts, but only an 8 on my scale, so I could care less about getting her which makes her perfect as a wingwoman because she's much more valuable to me for getting girls who are 9's and 10's on my scale. So, next time you see a hot g… | /r/seduction | 08/11/13 06:27 PM |
| 2 | Jason Treu and Brent Smith, dating coaches, join our AMA!On idea that comes out of this discussion: Hot girls use their stuck up/bitch shield behavior as a defense mechanism to protect themselves from the pressure of guys who are attracted to them. So, it's a relief to them when you treat them normal, because then they can relax and not have to worry about protecting themselves. | /r/seduction | 08/11/13 05:27 PM |
| 1 | Jason Treu and Brent Smith, dating coaches, join our AMA!They know they are hot to a large audience, but they know they are not hot to the majority and that the majority leaves them alone. They separate the fan group from the "normal" group and treat each group accordingly. When your sister is around the normal group, does she still act like a prima donna? Or does she switch to normal mode? I think hot girls put on their "stuck up" mask to deal with the pressure from the fan group, but they relax when they are around people who treat them normal. | /r/seduction | 08/11/13 05:04 PM |
| 1 | Jason Treu and Brent Smith, dating coaches, join our AMA!That was just presenting the extreme, that no matter how hot a girl is, the majority, even if slight majority, will treat her normal. So, that's what she prefers and is what she is slightly more used to. The point is she doesn't know you are in awe of her beauty, so if you don't tell her, she'll assume you're one of the normal people. | /r/seduction | 08/11/13 04:53 PM |
| 1 | Jason Treu and Brent Smith, dating coaches, join our AMA!Yes, but is she treated that way by the majority? You probably just notice that 1/3 of people treat her that way, which is a lot but still outnumbered by people who treat her normal. | /r/seduction | 08/11/13 04:51 PM |
| 1 | Jason Treu and Brent Smith, dating coaches, join our AMA!What celebrity do you think is one of the most beautiful girls in the world? Odds are against my seeing her that way, or even noticing her. And vice-versa. | /r/seduction | 08/11/13 04:42 PM |
| 1 | Jason Treu and Brent Smith, dating coaches, join our AMA!Okay name one. Odds are she's not my type, so I wouldn't notice her. Kids aren't necessarily attracted. Most women aren't attracted. And old men are more interested in their next meal. That's most of society. That's the world she lives in: people who treat her normal. | /r/seduction | 08/11/13 04:34 PM |
| 2 | Jason Treu and Brent Smith, dating coaches, join our AMA!If a girl looks "out of your league" it's because she's more in your league than anyone else: she's that beautiful to you because she's exactly your type. Girls like this are actually more likely to be physically attracted to you, because type is partially an ethnic thing, so if she looks really hot, she is more likely to be ethnically similar to you. And lastly, when you see a perfect "10", she has no idea that you see her that way, and so there's no reason for you to tell her and give her that… | /r/seduction | 08/11/13 03:48 PM |
| 2 | Jason Treu and Brent Smith, dating coaches, join our AMA!I understand that sometimes seeking makes you appear needy and weak, but if it is done from a position of strength, it can be like a king seeking the girl's audience, her presence is requested in front of the throne. So, I think seeking is required but it has to be done from an obvious position of strength. If you don't do anything, then girls being the passive receivers they are, nobody will seek anybody. The man has to lead the dance, or the woman will just stand there. How do these rules jibe… | /r/seduction | 08/11/13 03:35 PM |
| 2 | Jason Treu and Brent Smith, dating coaches, join our AMA!This is a good time to do a pushaway, but I think this version is a bit too harsh and so it seems likely the girl will take the first part literally and comply. It's also a bad phrase to say subconsciously because it puts a curse on the relationship and so the phrase "relationship is over" will continue to ring in her ears over the next couple of weeks, slowly eating away at it. A better pushaway would be "You seem kind of distant. Maybe you need some time to yourself for a while?". | /r/seduction | 08/11/13 12:50 PM |
| 1 | How I set up a FWB situationIt wasn't just a bad day. I told her I needed some time to myself (without her), which was risky to begin with, but when she issued the pushaway "take several weeks" I panicked and acted desperate, pushing her to let me come over for a party. That's what sealed the deal. If I had just played it cool and gave her a chance to miss me, I think I could have called her the next week and dealt from strength. But dealing from weakness, I sacrificed my edge and didn't know at the time that that was all … | /r/seduction | 08/11/13 05:00 AM |
| 1 | How I set up a FWB situationBut it's not finicky, it's what they are. A guy losing his edge is like a girl losing her looks. It's the only thing they go on. But, to your point, we didn't have much else going on in the relationship, so it wasn't like I had lost a fun person to hang with. It was based on attraction alone, so destroying that, destroyed the relationship. | /r/seduction | 08/11/13 03:12 AM |
| 3 | How I set up a FWB situationGreat idea- convert the ones that aren't interested in being a part of your harem into friends/wingwomen, so you win either way. | /r/seduction | 08/11/13 02:42 AM |
| 1 | Real Talk: Spinning Plates vs. MonogamyI don't want anyone to blindly believe me word for word. You should always use your own mind and be ready to challenge any point or idea. And I don't even guarantee I'm always right. It's unlikely that I'll ever be wrong, but I believe in taking risks to get ahead. The careful batter never hits a home run. | /r/seduction | 08/11/13 02:07 AM |
| 1 | How I set up a FWB situationWhen do you tell them? Do you get to know them a little so they'll have something to lose if they bolt? If you wait till after the first date, they've already framed out an exclusive relationship with you in their minds, so it's sort of a bait and switch at that point, but since they already feel like they have you, they tend to not want to give you up. | /r/seduction | 08/11/13 01:38 AM |
| 1 | Real Talk: Spinning Plates vs. MonogamyWhat part do you disagree with, do you believe that men and women are interchangeable? That women have the same wants and needs as men? That women respond to the same type of seduction as men do? One of the biggest problems of seduction is men treating women the way men like to be treated: Being a supplicating nice guy. It doesn't work because they are different. | /r/seduction | 08/11/13 01:30 AM |
| 2 | How I set up a FWB situationThe first part is true, she was a lucky find. But afterward, she went from 20-30 orgasms a week down to zero for at least a month or several. She wasn't the bar-going type so there was no way for her to meet someone new. That proved that orgasms were about as valuable to her as a nice dinner, but no more than that. The other aspect is she can only have orgasms with a guy she's attracted to, so it's not like she can grab the nearest guy and start up again. If I had kept my game/edge, I bet I coul… | /r/seduction | 08/11/13 01:18 AM |
| 2 | How I set up a FWB situationWomen have a powerful evolutionary compulsion to only be attracted to men who are healthy, strong, important, busy, in demand, etc. Ones who aren't are nice guys, easy, give validation freely and put girls on a pedestal. So those aspects provide women with an easy way to sort us and is what determines their attraction. Getting 10-15 orgasms from a guy only shows that the guy is healthy and virile, but those qualities are much lower than all the others because most guys are also healthy and viral… | /r/seduction | 07/11/13 07:06 PM |
| 2 | How I set up a FWB situationI've heard the joke: What's the difference between a girl from _____ university and a urinal? A urinal doesn't follow you around after you use it. I had assumed that was true when I was younger, but in the field, other than sex being an investment that goes both ways, I've never seen an increase in leverage or influence. Girls seem to slip just as easily out of your fingers after you have sex with them as they do before. And another myth I've had busted is that rocking her world in bed matters. … | /r/seduction | 07/11/13 06:33 PM |
| 3 | How I set up a FWB situationI'm all for evolutionary references, but in my experience, I've never seen a connection between first night sex and increased influence over the girl. Having the guy stick around benefits the guy's genes just as much as the girl's genes, so I don't think it changes anything in the power struggle. But I'm always open to new arguments as I enjoy comparing the evolutionary and anthropological origins of seduction. Upvoting for attempting to make a connection. | /r/seduction | 07/11/13 03:22 AM |
| 3 | How I set up a FWB situationThanks for the thorough answer. That makes a lot of sense. | /r/seduction | 07/11/13 03:12 AM |
| 1 | Turning texting sexualIt's all about framing out details and making empty-sounding promises like "Boy, when I get my hands on you". | /r/seduction | 07/11/13 12:44 AM |
| 2 | How I set up a FWB situationInteresting post and great success, but how is telling her about a date you went on last week fulfill being upfront about your intentions and your lifestyle? At what point do you tell the girl you're having sex with other girls, and at what point is she okay with that? That seems like the impossible part. | /r/seduction | 07/11/13 12:40 AM |
| 2 | Can you change somebody's view from "just a friend" to more?Yeah, as soon as she sees you hitting on other women, she'll do a pushaway with "well, if you like her go be with her". She knows if she says that to a guy he will feel abandoned, like a kitten tossed outside in the snow, so she'll be expecting the guy to come running back in saying "no, baby, I want to be here with you." But instead, you turn to her and say "you're such a good friend, that's what I love about you", kiss her on the cheek and then go talk to the other girl. That jams her deep in … | /r/seduction | 06/11/13 07:16 PM |
| 2 | I can get the girl easily, but how do I let go of attachment and draw boundaries?Women say they want you to be emotionally attached, but when you become that way with them, they seem to treat any such neediness with disdain. You seem to need this one a little too much, and if you can't keep her from going to parties, there's not much you can do with her. Another problem might be that you're giving her value too easily, which makes her think she can do anything and still depend on your validation. | /r/seduction | 06/11/13 03:50 PM |
| 5 | Can you change somebody's view from "just a friend" to more?Here's one thing you can try: take her out with you as a wingwoman. When she sees all the girls talking to you and giving you their numbers she'll start to think of you as attractive. And if she doesn't, you'll be getting lots of girls anyway. She doesn't even have to know she's your wingwoman, just hit on girls in front of her. And don't let her slap you back into line with the typical "if that's what you want, go get her" line, call her bluff and tell her what a good friend she is. Quit pursui… | /r/seduction | 06/11/13 03:27 PM |
| 1 | This is where I always mess things up.Good point- abundance is having a fulfilling life, regardless of the girl. But still, if she's your only source of girl, that's still going to put her on a pedestal and make you lose your edge. I don't think there's a way to get around that. | /r/seduction | 06/11/13 03:00 PM |
| 1 | This is where I always mess things up.If you think that's not the only way to keep your edge, then what other way comes to mind? I can't think of any. But I do know what happens when you lose your edge: you lose the girl. She depends on your keeping your edge, no matter what it takes. | /r/seduction | 06/11/13 02:52 PM |
| 2 | This is where I always mess things up.For millions of years, women have evolved to being only attracted to men who have an edge and can give them protection and support. But now that they are independent thanks to efficient employment opportunities, government assistance and police protection, they no longer need anything from us, but they are still biologically programmed to only be attracted to a man who has an edge over them. Seems to me, the only way to keep an edge is to have abundance, which means having attractive girl friend… | /r/seduction | 06/11/13 01:25 PM |
| -1 | Real Talk: Spinning Plates vs. MonogamyNo, women are female, men are male. That's what we are and how we got here. We've never been just interchangeable "people". The biology of what men are and what women are was formed over millions of years. I think a part of that is the requirement that men have the over-edge, and women have the under-edge in a relationship. Women genetically/instinctively expect that from us and so if we don't take that role, they are not able to be attracted to us. In a world where they don't need us for suppor… | /r/seduction | 06/11/13 05:36 AM |
| 1 | How to deal with high value women ?If the "high value" ones act any different, it will be because you treat them different. Women have no idea what they look like to you, so if you don't tell them, they have no power or leverage over you. Even the most beautiful girl in the world is used to being ignored by most of society, including old men, kids, other women, and guys who don't think she's their type. So, if you don't tell her anything, she'll assume she just looks like a regular person to you, and you can enjoy her blinding be… | /r/seduction | 06/11/13 05:07 AM |
| 1 | I can get the girl easily, but how do I let go of attachment and draw boundaries?I think you have to keep some of them as friends, in order to keep the abundance mentality. That makes the logistics tougher, keeping girl friends out in the open or secretly, but I think there's no other way to keep your edge, and the guy always has to have an edge over the girl in order to retain his masculine role in the relationship. If he loses his edge, he loses his masculinity, and then that causes the girl to lose her attraction. So you need to do it for her sake as well. | /r/seduction | 06/11/13 04:41 AM |
| 1 | This is where I always mess things up."However I generally find that girls I sleep with right away I don't genuinely make a connection with." Sounds like you've already figured out that aspect. And to stop falling apart during relationships, abundance might be the only way to keep your edge. | /r/seduction | 06/11/13 04:13 AM |
| -2 | FR: Practicing kino. Touching girls while you talk to them.Your first two comments were and still are completely false. You had to search to find a link on it. What's that make you...a person who goes around making false statements, and then tries to double down to cover it up? | /r/seduction | 06/11/13 03:18 AM |
| 3 | Tips on KissingExcellent list, and very thorough. I would add one thing: A girl wants you to kiss her the way you want to kiss her, not the way you think she wants to be kissed. The man leads and gives the kiss, the woman follows and receives the kiss. The only part I would remove is "how much do you charge", because that puts her on a pedestal, lowers your value, and cheapens the kiss by monetizing it, so you're really going backwards with that phrase. If you must tell a money joke, tell her she probably can'… | /r/seduction | 06/11/13 03:10 AM |
| 1 | probably a dumb post but i tried kino today after stumbling upon it yesterdaySome girls like to touch, so when you touch them first it's like opening the floodgates. Sounds like you've got yourself a girlfriend, so you can go ahead and claim her. She's waiting... | /r/seduction | 06/11/13 02:53 AM |
| 1 | how do you become the center of attn.?I'm currently working on this myself. If you want to become the alpha of the group, you need to start building the frame around them to do it. Study each person's behavior carefully and interact with them about it. eg: "You seem tired/excited/happy/grumpy/quiet...do you need a drink?" In addition to studying their current moods and wants, and trying to be helpful, you can direct the activities accordingly and make it a fun evening for all. Jacking people's frames can be a good thing if you treat… | /r/seduction | 06/11/13 02:46 AM |
| 1 | Real Talk: Spinning Plates vs. MonogamyIt might be more than just a defense mechanism, because what it does is guarantees you having and keeping your edge. Unless you can find another way to do that, you don't have a choice. | /r/seduction | 06/11/13 02:29 AM |
| 1 | I can get the girl easily, but how do I let go of attachment and draw boundaries?Abundance is the key. If you put all your eggs in one basket, you're probably going to fuck it up...every time. I don't know if there's another way to keep your edge, and your control over your situation. | /r/seduction | 06/11/13 02:25 AM |
| -2 | FR: Practicing kino. Touching girls while you talk to them.71 uses of the word "touch" in the comments. That was very good...EIGHT MONTHS AGO!! Never to be mentioned again, I suppose? That shit should be top of mind, not something you have to dig out from eight months ago. I guarantee if they're not still talking about it then nobody's thinking about it, or doing it. But thanks for the link, anyhow. At least one person will be working on it, now. | /r/seduction | 06/11/13 01:55 AM |
| -4 | FR: Practicing kino. Touching girls while you talk to them."Correcting" but never contributing anything is not discussing, it's posing. Trying to steer information to stroke one's own ego, not out of interest in gaining knowledge or curiosity of the topic. That's the definition of a true poser. One who pretends to be an expert, but has neither the capacity nor the curiosity to ever become one. | /r/seduction | 06/11/13 01:14 AM |
| -1 | FR: Practicing kino. Touching girls while you talk to them.I have never seen a post of someone on here talking about touching a girl's arm or shoulder, because for certain clueless posers who pretend to discuss seduction, it's never crossed their mind. Not much does. But somehow they've convinced themselves that they know it all. | /r/seduction | 06/11/13 12:49 AM |
| 2 | FR: Practicing kino. Touching girls while you talk to them.For you innner-game guys, outer-game is like taking a shower. You don't think of the details and so you forget they matter. "It should come natural". No, just because it comes natural for you, doesn't mean you can gloss over it and expect everyone else to be able to do it. If you only want to focus on inner game, then we should create a subreddit for that. But don't call it seduction if you're going to skip over all the details. | /r/seduction | 05/11/13 05:03 PM |
| -1 | FR: Practicing kino. Touching girls while you talk to them.Nope. Just searched the word touch in each of the five posts, and the sixth one is fake. And I've also never seen anyone discuss it on here. For you innner-game guys, outer-game is like taking a shower. You don't think of the details and so you forget they matter. If you only want to focus on inner game, then we should create a subreddit for that. But don't call it seduction if you're going to skip over all the details. | /r/seduction | 05/11/13 05:01 PM |
| 1 | FR and question about a "shit test"Put your arm around her, look into her eyes and say "The only type of guy who should be doing those things is someone you trust, someone you care about" | /r/seduction | 05/11/13 01:49 PM |
| 1 | Are any of you guys located in South Florida?Philadelphia here. I'm not sure if a wingman is more of an asset or liability. I met a guy the other night, nice guy, but he was talking to a girl I wanted to get the number of, so I felt pressured not to. Well, a couple days later I found him at another bar, and the girl was there too (independently), so here we go again. I finally said to him look, I want her her number because I want to be friends with her. I want her as a wingwoman. Then I see him macking on the two hottest blondes in the pl… | /r/seduction | 05/11/13 03:19 AM |
| -4 | Any tips for pickup on the subway or other forms of public transportation?Buy a bulk package of Frito-Lay products and offer them to girls on the train. I got snacks on snacks...whatchyou want? | /r/seduction | 05/11/13 03:04 AM |
| 5 | Giving random compliments to girls by text?Yes, anything that promotes the girls, puts them on a pedestal or shows how much you value them, decreases your value. The only things you can do by text is check on them like a concerned parent, and offer them things in the future that they can't have yet, in order to build anticipation. That's basically teasing around a barrier (time/distance) where you fuck with them by offering all the mushy stuff they want, but can't have: kisses, wait till I get my hands on you, etc. But don't say I want o… | /r/seduction | 05/11/13 02:52 AM |
| 1 | 6 Reasons Why "Day Dates" Are Bad IdeasInteresting point. Inviting a girl to a day date risks being subconciously associated and categorized as a colleague, rather than a romantic interest. | /r/seduction | 04/11/13 08:20 PM |
| 1 | Just started amogging hot girls whenever I see them in public. Number closed the first one.Hi, I think it's time to have this conversation, because I think things are starting to go down the wrong road and people are not keeping with the spirit of reddit and the power of ideas that have the potential to come from the collective hive mind. I believe in taking risks because that's the only way the knowledgebase can move forward, and I hope you agree. If everyone is always only super careful, they're only really just churning stuff from the past, and so I think the bigger risk is missing… | /r/seduction | 04/11/13 04:35 PM |
| 1 | Just started amogging hot girls whenever I see them in public. Number closed the first one.Thanks for your eloquent response. I just believe in taking risks because that's the only way the knowledgebase can move forward, and I hope you agree. If everyone is always only super careful, they're only really just churning stuff from the past, and so I think the bigger risk is missing out on growth and finding out new angles, aspects and techniques. That's how the knowledgebase got here. If everyone had been careful, it wouldn't exist. | /r/seduction | 04/11/13 04:17 PM |
| 1 | Just started amogging hot girls whenever I see them in public. Number closed the first one.amogging is negative through the recipient's point of view, while what I'm trying to do is invasive, but not necessarily negative. So to your point, that is a difference I need to solve with words. Thanks for pointing that out, and I'll keep working on it. | /r/seduction | 04/11/13 03:46 PM |
| 1 | Just started amogging hot girls whenever I see them in public. Number closed the first one.You?? why? I think of you as being one of the only creative people here that EVER builds on ideas. Ever. I am starting to question the motivation of people who don't. If a comment doesn't try to add something or try to correct something, then by definition it is trolling. I'm going to start calling that behavior out on it whenever I see it and I hope you will do the same because that type of behavior destroys the value and the power of ideas that makes reddit what it is. | /r/seduction | 04/11/13 03:01 PM |
| 2 | Any advice on how to prevent flakes?Sounds like you didn't game her, and so you were a pushover. Just like a girl who is too easy gets no respect and gets dumped by guys, a guy who is too easy will get no respect and get dumped by girls. You can't ever let your guard down and give value freely. You always need to keep an edge over her where she never quite earns your attention and respect, so she always has something to reach for. This can also be done by teasing her by offering her things she wants around a barrier, such as dista… | /r/seduction | 04/11/13 02:55 PM |
| 1 | Leader groups and social dynamicsI prefer to just use reddit for chat. | /r/seduction | 03/11/13 08:26 PM |
| 1 | Just started amogging hot girls whenever I see them in public. Number closed the first one.amogging is negative through the recipient's point of view, while what I'm trying to do is invasive, but not necessarily negative. So to your point, that is a difference I still need to solve with words. Thanks for pointing that out, and I'll keep working on a solution. | /r/seduction | 03/11/13 02:52 AM |
| 1 | Often shit tested by platonic female friend. Stumped by this latest one.Neither one of you has ever really dated, so it's not like she's got a plan. It's the guy's job to tell the girl what's up, so you need to decide and tell her. Never ask her to decide anything, ever. That's your job. She either complies and you keep her, or she doesn't and you dump her. | /r/seduction | 03/11/13 12:40 AM |
| 1 | How to bring a girl to hotel/motel for a first time?Including the girl gets her to invest and share the responsibility, instead of it being you trying to get something from her, which puts them on guard because it feels like a predator-prey relationship. "I want to be with you" is girlspeak for sex and it's impervious to rejection, offending the girl, or making her feel used. And if she gets any LMR, you can say "I thought you wanted to be with me". | /r/seduction | 02/11/13 05:28 PM |
| -1 | My daygame openerI like this because it's a reactionary opener. By adjusting the opener to the girl's response, you ensure a much higher compliance rate. The ideal would be to make a series of tests for the girl to pass through, sort of a test ladder. | /r/seduction | 02/11/13 04:58 PM |
| 3 | How to bring a girl to hotel/motel for a first time?Just like with getting their phone number, you could present the issue to her, saying "I want to be with you" and then help her think up a solution. | /r/seduction | 02/11/13 03:45 PM |
| 2 | I've got this very handy tips from here, thank you. Is there anything to add/alter?It's a valuable list, but I would trim it up a bit by removing anything repetitive or obvious, and just keep the ones related to seduction. | /r/seduction | 02/11/13 03:35 PM |
| 1 | How do you get a BJ?People often forget that sex is communication between two people, and so they forget to communicate and interact with the girl. | /r/seduction | 02/11/13 01:51 PM |
| 2 | How do a bring up sex?It's not a subject that you need to "bring up". You either do it or you don't. Sex is like Ballroom dancing, the man leads each step and the woman follows. If he does nothing, then nothing is exactly what happens: the girl just waits. | /r/seduction | 02/11/13 07:21 AM |
| -1 | How do you get a BJ?One trick is to show her your reaction to her. BJ stories always seem to start when the girl simply becomes aware of it, so move her hand down and say see? Look what you caused. Half of them will naturally want to pull it out and touch it. For the other half, you can just ask them to. | /r/seduction | 02/11/13 07:18 AM |
| 0 | Just started amogging hot girls whenever I see them in public. Number closed the first one.Reddit doesn't allow trolls. Period. | /r/seduction | 02/11/13 01:46 AM |
| 7 | Issue: I get too invested, too fastI don't think it's possible to only have a relationship with one girl and not develop oneitis. As long as there is only one of her, you're going to have a scarcity mindset because you made her that way. At the very minimum, you need to maintain a few relationships or friendships with hot girls so you'll have an abundance mentality. | /r/seduction | 02/11/13 12:53 AM |
| 1 | Is it wrong of me to measure the ROI when going out with a girl?I can see paying for everything is starting to get to you. One problem of guys paying for everything is that money can corrupt the situation, so sometimes it's hard to tell if the girl is going out with you for your company, or if she's mainly going out for you for the validation of having money spent on her, or if she just enjoys getting free stuff. The only way to fix that is to remove money from the equation by splitting the bills. Some people trade off, but I think trading off sucks because … | /r/seduction | 01/11/13 06:49 PM |
| 1 | OVULATION STUDIES: Read the actual study, not just the abstract!The two peaks I've noticed a marked difference in female sexuality are at ovulation and right before their period. There seems to be at least a 30% difference for each, but I haven't thought of any practical use for it. It's just a part of their hormone cycle. But maybe there is a way to use it: A girl who is right before her period will often double her aggressiveness, so if you see a girl talking excessively and making overly-excessive points, and you think it's more than she usually does beca… | /r/seduction | 01/11/13 06:02 PM |
| 2 | FR Approach Anxiety and Set-surfingThat gives me an idea: push the responsibility of talking onto the girl, saying I'm here, what have you got for me? Girl: "Why are you here" Me: I'm just waiting for you to talk to me. You seem like a nice girl. What's the matter, cat got your tongue? I'm waiting. And if she doesn't talk, swat her with: Well you don't seem to be much of a talker, I'm going to find someone else. This puts her in the position of having to qualify herself as being someone who can talk. Then, for the rest of the nig… | /r/seduction | 01/11/13 05:43 PM |
| 1 | why i refuse to watch mainstream tvI don't watch TV either, but that's a good idea to use it as change bait. I wonder what are some other examples of things that tap into a girl's urge to fix things. When a girl sees bubble wrap, she wants to pop them. When she sees something peeling, she wants to peel it. What are some others? | /r/seduction | 01/11/13 12:04 AM |
| 1 | Cheap or low cost dates?Never seems to happen that way. The girl will invariably show up saying she hasn't had anything to eat all day. You? | /r/seduction | 31/10/13 11:53 AM |
| 1 | Cheap or low cost dates?The only snag is no matter what you're doing with a girl, a mealtime will always roll around and then she's going to be hungry. So you can't dodge that by doing daytime activities. | /r/seduction | 31/10/13 03:52 AM |
| 2 | Cheap or low cost dates?The way I look at it is you're getting her juiced up before the meetup. Then she'll be putty in your hands. It's worked for me, but as you said, it has to be done without investing value. Offering her things she can't have yet doesn't qualify as investing in value because it doesn't reflect your value or hers. But it does stoke her anticipation, which taps into the whole reason she wants to meet up. I'll buy you a drink, and you can buy me one. That sounds cute. | /r/seduction | 30/10/13 11:10 PM |
| 0 | Cheap or low cost dates?Hey, I want to see you again. We should get together this Saturday night. Now, that sounds pretty alpha! And buy drinks sounds a little awkward, so I'd like to find a different way to fit it in. And try out some cool drinks. And buy each other drinks. And get some drinks. What do you mean by creating too many expectations that can be later destroyed? I was thinking more expectations would be better because fleshing out future promises builds anticipation, which many people value more than actual… | /r/seduction | 30/10/13 05:42 PM |
| 2 | I need to tell someone about this and I don't really have anyone close that would really understand. I feel as if you guys could related.I guess since girls don't judge us on looks (check out the latest video from simple pickup), they hyper-analyze and judge us on everything we say. Even my own sisters do that to me. Life is always a stage and you always have to keep a firm grip on your frame, or others will be quick to reset it for you. | /r/seduction | 30/10/13 05:20 PM |
| 2 | Cheap or low cost dates?I agree with that order and that's a good idea to break it down in order to see how the pieces work together: We: subliminal togetherness Should: subliminal power word that carries legitimacy and authority. I Want: powerful vector, but might less respect because it's a unilateral individual expression. It tells a girl she is wanted and it can be alpha and demanding in a good way. I imagine a king declaring that he wants the presence of one of his subjects. Sometimes guys make the mistake of leav… | /r/seduction | 30/10/13 04:39 PM |
| 3 | Cheap or low cost dates?Another problem of guys paying for everything is that money corrupts the situation, so sometimes it's hard to tell if the girl is going out with you for the validation of having money spent on her, or if she just enjoys getting free stuff. The only way to fix that is to remove money from the equation by splitting the bills. Some people trade off, but I think trading off sucks because whoever pays gets their evening ruined by getting hit with a big bill. By splitting, everything always only costs… | /r/seduction | 30/10/13 02:52 PM |
| 2 | I need to tell someone about this and I don't really have anyone close that would really understand. I feel as if you guys could related.I wasn't finished, look again. :o) I just spent over an hour contemplating the whys of this issue because it is one of the most important issues of Seduction: Why can't we say things to make a girl feel good, like telling her she's beautiful or that we can't wait to see her? Why can't we tell a girl we want her or want to be with her? Because the implication affects our own value. She's going to wonder why you think that, why you feel that way, and try to read into your situation. Unless you can… | /r/seduction | 30/10/13 04:03 AM |
| 2 | I need to tell someone about this and I don't really have anyone close that would really understand. I feel as if you guys could related.The problem with "I am so excited to see you" or "can't wait to see you" is you're valuing her too much, which lowers your value because it makes you seem like a loser who's never gone out with a girl before. What would Elvis say? Hey babe, looking forward to seeing you. But, even that might be too much. I've found the best way to deal with a girl is to tease her around a barrier, such as distance or time. Offer her things she wants, but can't have yet, just to jerk her chain and get her juices … | /r/seduction | 30/10/13 03:32 AM |
| 0 | What happens when you meet someone who actuallyOh, I get what you were saying now. You meant don't get so caught up in the game of gaming one girl after another, not- don't get caught up in having an alpha edge. | /r/seduction | 30/10/13 02:15 AM |
| 0 | What happens when you meet someone who actuallyThat's the opposite of my advice, so I'd like to discuss: I say if you let go of your game/edge, you lose your alpha edge, and you lose the girl. Why do you think you can get away with falling in love and handing your heart/nuts over to the girl without her losing interest? | /r/seduction | 29/10/13 06:21 PM |
| 2 | What happens when you meet someone who actuallyHer attraction is more about her liking who you are, in relation/proportion to herself. So if you lower your edge/pedestal to the same level or lower than hers, your edge no longer exists. The equation: Attraction=Edge X Friendliness If Edge = 0 Then: Attraction = 0 X Friendliness Result: Attraction = 0 (It doesn't matter how friendly you were towards her because it still gets multiplied by your edge. So if your edge is zero, you're always going to be multiplying by zero.) | /r/seduction | 29/10/13 06:31 AM |
| 1 | Found my sticking point, need help!You mean it worked after you got really good at it. But what did you used to do before you got that good when you ran out of things to say? Did you use the stress and fear of looking like a retard to force yourself to think of something, and just let it crash and burn when nothing came? | /r/seduction | 29/10/13 05:37 AM |
| 1 | What happens when you meet someone who actuallyNo matter how good it seems, no matter how loving the girl is, never let your guard down and never relax or give up your attitude, or your edge over her, never treat her as an equal or give her more than a tiny amount of validation. I once met the perfect girl and she was really into me...so I thought this is cool, life is good and started treating her normal. Poof * gone A girl's attraction to you exists within the plane of the edge you have on her. But if you give up that edge by releasing you… | /r/seduction | 29/10/13 05:12 AM |
| 1 | Found my sticking point, need help!Will be interesting to see what the "Be yourself, be spontaneous, don't use prepared material" guys will say this time. Here's proof it doesn't work for everyone. | /r/seduction | 29/10/13 05:04 AM |
| 2 | How to hook her after the first date?Give her something to look forward to. | /r/seduction | 29/10/13 04:51 AM |
| 1 | Excerpts from The Game by Neil StraussYeah, it's like girls of today are culturally and genetically different now than they were way, way back in the year 2005 when the book was written. | /r/seduction | 28/10/13 07:52 PM |
| 3 | How do I tease successfully, I've read tips and tricks but it still feels like brain surgery to me.Teasing is about offering her things around a barrier, such as time, distance, or physical barriers such as people, or psychological barriers such as an ex. Psychological: "You remind me of a girl in school I had a crush on. I can't even talk to you now. " Time/future teases: "I'm going to ask you out" "I'm going to kiss you" "I'm going to take you to a movie" "Boy, when I get my hands on you" Teasing around public barrier: "If we weren't in public, I'd be kissing you right now" A physical barri… | /r/seduction | 28/10/13 03:39 PM |
| 1 | Leader groups and social dynamicsI'm all for bouncing ideas, but I think a lot of people on here are mainly interested in discussing things that are already known, not building upon new (and possibly wrong) ideas. They are very concerned about making a mistake by learning something or saying something that has any chance of being wrong, so they tend to suppress their own ideas and downvote anything new or different to protect against that, which also protects against getting any breakthroughs either. I imagine when Mystery firs… | /r/seduction | 28/10/13 02:55 PM |
| 1 | Turning a one night stand to a consistent hookupYou should plan the next date while you're with her, even before you have sex, when she is aroused. That way she'll associate her arousal with the thought of going out with you next week. | /r/seduction | 28/10/13 01:54 PM |
| 1 | Why women lose the dating gameThat's an interesting example you brought up, but it's not an exception. Yes, birth control is a flaw and it might be killing us off to an even greater extent than professionalism, although in most cases the two are combined. Both are counterbalanced to an extent by advances in nutrition and health care, which greatly increased the survival rates of humans. To the question of whether birth control use will kill itself off, that's a tough one. Usually in the past whenever one subset of a species … | /r/seduction | 27/10/13 11:07 PM |
| 1 | Why women lose the dating gameThat wasn't an insult. 99% of the population don't fully understand evolution. I'm willing to help, but only if you're curious. Most people aren't. | /r/seduction | 27/10/13 09:19 PM |
| 1 | Why women lose the dating gameIt's a simple math equation that applied over time has interesting results. Anything that pushes women away from their procreation role will reduce the result. From an evolutionary standpoint, it is a behavioral flaw that will be weeded out just like all other flaws have been over the millions of generations that brought us to the present. Perhaps you don't fully understand the facts that surround evolution. Not everyone does. | /r/seduction | 27/10/13 03:57 PM |
| 1 | Why women lose the dating gameHolocaust is an 800-year-old word, so it's still a word unless you feel The Holocaust has taken over the meaning. What do you mean by paternal influence and bloodlines? If the women aren't having kids, the men aren't either, which means there will be fewer and fewer kids from that culture. Teachers have to listen to the parents, so when all the parents are Muslim, change will take place and the teachers will stop urging girls to grow up and live like men. That is unless the Muslims fall into the… | /r/seduction | 27/10/13 01:38 PM |
| 5 | Hello fine gentlemen of seddit, Im a girl and I have some tips for all of you.She did have some valuable tips in there: Be confident and stand up straight, don't slouch. Stare girls down when you catch their eye, don't look away like a wuss. Look the girl in her eyes when talking to her. Playfully bust on the guys and the girls around you. Put girls to work buying drinks for you and holding your drink while you talk to other people. Be assertive and tell a girl to go out with you instead of asking her out. | /r/seduction | 27/10/13 01:15 PM |
| 3 | How to handle a girl who directly asks about your intentionsAre you hitting on me? Mystery would reverse and amplify: "Whoa, slow down there tiger. I just met you. I don't come that easy." She said Look, what's your game? Are you trying to put me in shame? I said Slow, slow don't go so fast. Don't you think that love can last? She said Love?? Lord above. Now you're trying to trick me in love. | /r/seduction | 27/10/13 04:04 AM |
| 1 | Why women lose the dating gameThe national culture has overrided tradition, so tradition is already gone, out the window. Every girl that goes to school is urged by her teachers to become professional. There's no inherited trait for it- that would take thousands of years to develop. I'm just saying that 20% chop every generation, combined with people having fewer kids is easily enough to kill them all off over a few generations. They won't exist, so they won't be able to carry the 20th Century professional culture forward. T… | /r/seduction | 26/10/13 09:40 PM |
| 1 | Why women lose the dating gamewhat groups of people are you talking about. The only groups in America that I know of that don't push girls into professional careers are the Amish and Muslims. | /r/seduction | 26/10/13 09:15 PM |
| 1 | Why women lose the dating gameIt's a paradigm shift of American culture so it's not something you opt into. | /r/seduction | 26/10/13 07:08 PM |
| 1 | The true value of Negging revealed: It's not about disqualifying yourself or taking the HB down a few notches.I agree, but that brings up an interesting distinction: Showing intentions doesn't count as flattery. "I want" is a powerful force vector. eg: The boss wants you in his office NOW. You can want something without putting it on a pedestal. It's not telling the girl that she's amazing or more beautiful than other girls, and that you're a chump who's never seen a girl before. That's how compliments often come across: they make the girl think you are easily amazed/amused and must not get out much. | /r/seduction | 26/10/13 06:13 PM |
| 1 | Why women lose the dating gameIt's assuming that each professional woman will naturally serve as a role model and guide her daughters into doing the same thing. Culture usually passes generation to generation. And the professional woman is naturally going to in a higher social/economic class, so that won't be an issue. Even if she went broke for some reason, a professional woman would be aggressive enough to help her daughters and granddaughters apply for college grants. | /r/seduction | 26/10/13 05:51 PM |
| 1 | Must have had at least 10 dates with her in the last 4 years. How do i break the wall?Dating between a man and a woman is not 50-50. It's more like ballroom dancing: The man leads and the woman follows. If the man doesn't take a step, the woman will just stand there and wait. | /r/seduction | 26/10/13 05:33 PM |
| 2 | I have just gotten myself into a 'friends with benefits' relationship. I have never had sex, and I'd like some advice.Sometimes girls have selective hearing: keeping the good part and ignoring the bad. She might have only heard that the two of you are moving into a relationship. | /r/seduction | 26/10/13 02:29 PM |
| 6 | Why women lose the dating gameOne other problem, which I've seen with my sisters is that a strong, independent woman is harder to get along with than a vulnerable non-professional. She can afford to be more alpha and headstrong because she can support herself. And that reduces the pool much farther because it reduces their ability to play the Robin role to the man's Batman role. I've seen it in many marriages too: Money = independence = fuck you I'm not listening to you anymore, I'm leaving your ass. That seems great on the … | /r/seduction | 26/10/13 04:37 AM |
| 2 | When a girl accepts to go out with you, does it necesarily means that she's interested?Here are three versions: Want to go out with me on Saturday night and buy dinner together? I want to take you out this Saturday night and buy dinner together. We should get together this Saturday night and buy dinner together. | /r/seduction | 26/10/13 03:47 AM |
| 2 | The sad truth about cold approach and daygameWelcome to Seddit! Stick around and you'll learn that none of the myths you stated are true and are in fact the mirror image exact opposite. I would give you some advice, but you literally just need to turn each sentence around and that would be the exact advice. Follow it and you will become a successful pua. | /r/seduction | 26/10/13 03:32 AM |
| 3 | When a girl accepts to go out with you, does it necesarily means that she's interested?That's the problem of guys paying for everything. Money corrupts the situation, so sometimes it's hard to tell if she's going out with you for the validation of having money spent on her, or if she just enjoys getting free stuff, or if she would still want to be with you without the money. The only way to fix that is to remove money from the equation by splitting the bills. Trading off sucks because whoever pays gets their evening ruined by getting hit with a big bill. By splitting, everything a… | /r/seduction | 26/10/13 03:20 AM |
| 3 | Why women lose the dating gameIn what way do you feel like you chose between dating and career? Do you think you'd be married if you had skipped the career? I'm currently researching how overprofessionalization seems to be causing many women to lose the evolutionary race. Their independence and self-sufficiency seems to interfere with the vulnerability side if their femininity, resulting in a human that is 20% less likely to mate, which is such a huge drawback, after a certain number of generations have been chopped down by … | /r/seduction | 26/10/13 02:56 AM |
| 2 | The Ben Franklin effectI thought of one: Ask the girl to go get you a drink and hand her the money for it. It's easy if she's seated at the bar, since you can't reach the counter anyway. | /r/seduction | 25/10/13 05:02 AM |
| 1 | Hey Seddit, remember the infographic I did a few days ago? Well I've just updated itNice! | /r/seduction | 23/10/13 10:36 PM |
| 1 | The true value of Negging revealed: It's not about disqualifying yourself or taking the HB down a few notches.What I'm saying is a neg is communicating (giving attention) without lowering your status. But the important part is communicating- touching the girl with words. That's the meat of it. If you think I'm wrong, then see if you can think of an example of giving her attention that doesn't lower your status, but also doesn't build attraction. I can't, and I don't think you'll be able to either. Attraction-building is any attention that comes under the flattery radar, the weirdo/creepy radar and the a… | /r/seduction | 23/10/13 07:50 PM |
| 1 | Why Beautiful Women Reject 99% Of Men | How To Be The 1% She Has Sex With! ( NEW VIDEO )Good point | /r/seduction | 23/10/13 01:40 PM |
| 1 | Bravo here and I am a mPUA- Ask Me Anything :DThat's a solid list | /r/seduction | 23/10/13 04:17 AM |
| 1 | Bravo here and I am a mPUA- Ask Me Anything :DOh, I read the description too fast and thought you meant I am (still) working for the man who wrote it. Cool, well I am even more impressed that you're this tight on your own. And the IOI's from Mystery are definitely a bonus, but after talking with you I'm not surprised. But most of all, I'm so glad to finally come across someone at this level of the game- someone who is building instead of just following. | /r/seduction | 23/10/13 04:13 AM |
| 1 | Bravo here and I am a mPUA- Ask Me Anything :DYES, Be her fantasy! I like that! Damn, I was pleasantly surprised with your answers- it really shows you're on the cutting edge of Seduction. I'm definitely going to join StyleLife. | /r/seduction | 23/10/13 03:42 AM |
| 1 | Bravo here and I am a mPUA- Ask Me Anything :DI was thinking how negs might apply to business, employment and client seduction as well. Do you guys have any materials for using in business situations? | /r/seduction | 23/10/13 03:39 AM |
| 1 | Bravo here and I am a mPUA- Ask Me Anything :DWow, thanks for the direct quote! Those are great points- especially demonstrating you're comfortable around women. But I think there's more to it: It's endearing. I wonder if you could run that by Neil and see if he agrees? I've seen some alpha guys in my life do it to other guys and it really seems to build trust and friendship with the people they do it to- they become followers. | /r/seduction | 23/10/13 03:22 AM |
| 2 | Bravo here and I am a mPUA- Ask Me Anything :DThanks for helping me compose it! I just posted a question on negging on your thread, as I have a new theory on the benefits of it and wanted to run it by someone who might understand. You seem to take a scientific view of all this. After reading The Game, I consider Neil as someone who evolved from writer to full-fledged scientist. Has anyone told hm that? That's what scientists do: They dive into research and bust out new discoveries, so he matches the definition completely. | /r/seduction | 23/10/13 03:07 AM |
| 1 | Bravo here and I am a mPUA- Ask Me Anything :DI want to discuss negging and why it is such a valuable aspect of seduction. Some people say it's to disqualify yourself. But that is of little value. I don't think HB9 gives a rat's ass whether you like her or not; she knows some dudes are attracted and some aren't. Dudes that aren't attracted are of no value to her: she walks past people like that throughout the day. Some say negging is to take the HB down a few notches, but I think that is unnecessary also. HB9 probably has no idea she's an H… | /r/seduction | 23/10/13 02:59 AM |
| 1 | Bravo here and I am a mPUA- Ask Me Anything :DWow, she looks like an Asian version of Tinkerbell- a real life pixie! So, I'll tell the 90% guys they're doing it wrong. I was thinking that's a lot of work for nothing. Thanks for the great grocery store opener- I've been searching for one, but all I came up with is "Are you interested in meeting someone?" The problem with that is it's asking a girl to choose or take a step. Girls hate steps and choices- they want us to choose for them. So my new one is "Are you available to meet someone new? … | /r/seduction | 23/10/13 02:54 AM |
| 2 | Bravo here and I am a mPUA- Ask Me Anything :DThat's a great answer: Sympathize with him and further clarify request. I was thinking of also maybe using "I need to borrow her for a sec so I can get to know her better". | /r/seduction | 23/10/13 02:38 AM |
| 1 | Bravo here and I am a mPUA- Ask Me Anything :DThanks for all your solid answers! We get a lot of guys saying that only 5-10% of phone numbers result in a date, which is a 90% failure rate. Is that normal? I was thinking of ways to improve it: kino and kiss closing, bouncing, and making lots of teasing promises to build the girl's desire to see you again. What's the usual hit rate with numbers? | /r/seduction | 23/10/13 02:32 AM |
| 1 | Bravo here and I am a mPUA- Ask Me Anything :DAh, the direct approach. That's good, but there's a way he could wiggle out from under that. He could say "Hey, we're all just enjoying talking and getting to know each other", making you seem like an ass for interfering with that. | /r/seduction | 23/10/13 02:25 AM |
| 5 | Bravo here and I am a mPUA- Ask Me Anything :DI came up with something similar to Approach Excitement. Which is more fun, meeting girls or having numbers? You probably already have a bunch of phone numbers, so would you trade them for meeting new girls? If yes, then you value meeting girls more than getting phone numbers. Boom, you no longer care about the outcome, you care about the fun. | /r/seduction | 23/10/13 02:00 AM |
| 1 | Bravo here and I am a mPUA- Ask Me Anything :DWhat are some "other guy" destroyer routines? I was working with some rope today, twisting it, and some string was nearby and got tangled in the rope. The longer I allowed the string to hang out near the rope, the more tangled it got and longer it took to untangle. Same thing with an "other guy" who starts talking to the target. The longer you let him hang around, the more tangled up he gets with the target. I came to the conclusion that just like the string, getting him away from the girl quick… | /r/seduction | 23/10/13 01:55 AM |
| 4 | Bravo here and I am a mPUA- Ask Me Anything :DHis answer is "By doing it". But he left out the crucial part: Hundreds of times. Do you have approach anxiety when reaching for your toothbrush? | /r/seduction | 23/10/13 01:46 AM |
| 1 | The true value of Negging revealed: It's not about disqualifying yourself or taking the HB down a few notches.To your point, negging is also valuable in bringing a girl with a lofty self image down to your level, so that is definitely a standalone benefit. I've also seen people use playful negs on guys to build respect and endearment, and it seems to be a very powerful tool. Ever seen a pack of guys and the lead guy is always negging his followers? They follow him because he is doing that, so it seems to be a powerful attraction tool. I know that wasn't Mystery's original intent for negging, but I think… | /r/seduction | 23/10/13 12:25 AM |
| -2 | 3 Common Dating Mistakes Many Don't Realize They MakeThat is really tight! | /r/seduction | 22/10/13 03:21 AM |
| 1 | Being charmingFlattery has a downside of putting a girl on a pedestal, which puts her in a position of looking down upon you. So it must be done without comparing the girl to the general population or giving her a rank among girls. One way around that is to add the word "enough", which switches the compliment to a qualification. | /r/seduction | 22/10/13 12:01 AM |
| 1 | 3 Common Dating Mistakes Many Don't Realize They MakeI wonder if we should drop this opener: "I thought you were cute and wanted to come over and say hi" I'm not sure if that's a pedestal or if you could use the tone of talking down to a cute little girl, or a cute little flower. Here are some other ideas: "Hi, I saw you walking and thought you might be interesting..." "Hi, I thought we might find each other interesting..." "Hi, I saw you walking and wanted to talk to you..." Adding the word "enough" changes it to a qualifier, removing the complim… | /r/seduction | 21/10/13 08:58 PM |
| 17 | 3 Common Dating Mistakes Many Don't Realize They Make"Liking a girl does NOT make her attracted to you." True. And I think you can take it farther and say complimenting a girl does not make her attracted to you either. Perhaps we should remove these two actions from the initial meeting completely and maybe just use compliments for push-pull and to soften or counter-balance negs. | /r/seduction | 21/10/13 02:13 PM |
| 1 | A Las Vegas Story: Lesbians, Middle Age Women, Booty Shorts, And Me.yeah, I wanna get me a couple of crazy ones as wingwomen. It's easier to be that way with rowdy friends egging you on. | /r/seduction | 21/10/13 04:19 AM |
| 1 | A Las Vegas Story: Lesbians, Middle Age Women, Booty Shorts, And Me.It's all in the attitude- that was a hellofa rockin' night! Reminds me of a Bill Murray quote from Stripes: "Lee Harvey, you are a madman!! When you stole that cow...? and your friend tried to make it with the cow?? I want to party with you, cowboy. If the two of us together, forget it!" Hitmeup if you're ever in Philly or AC. | /r/seduction | 21/10/13 03:50 AM |
| 2 | The most important aspects of the initial pickup: Promises, Hunger & IntrigueImagine...In a world of boredom and emptiness...One man...Much sought but never before caught...Standing before you...Ready to take you places you've never dreamed of... | /r/seduction | 21/10/13 12:22 AM |
| 3 | I've been in the game for 5 months. I've gotten many phone numbers, but only 3-4 dates and no F-close.Try bouncing the girls to a different place right then or later on that same day. Also, try a bit of kino while you're with them. Anything you do builds investment. And lastly, you can build attraction with push-pull, negs, and teasing around a barrier. A barrier is anything that keeps something she wants (attention, validation, food, drinks, hugs, or kisses) just out of her reach, with things such as time, distance, and situation. Example: "I want to give you a hug/kiss right now, but sorry, I'… | /r/seduction | 20/10/13 11:20 PM |
| 1 | Does anyone have some tips for online dating, or how you can be more successful with itSeduction is seduction, whether it's online, in person or over text. The rules are all the same, and the main one is: feed out validation slowly and wait for them to earn it. | /r/seduction | 19/10/13 02:54 AM |
| 1 | NSA - How do you do it?Well, that's a good question to ask, maybe even worth devoting to a new thread. I'm taking more of a scientific research approach- I've gathered over 100 pages of notes and so my involvement has been mostly research. I don't know what these guys are doing to continually free themselves up for new girls. One explanation is many girls are like paper cups: they fall apart so you have to keep reaching for another one. But still, every once in a while you should trip across a solid one and then what.… | /r/seduction | 17/10/13 05:18 AM |
| 1 | NSA - How do you do it?I do multiple edits also. :o) | /r/seduction | 17/10/13 04:52 AM |
| 1 | NSA - How do you do it?Well, a girlfriend could help you do those things and make it all happen. I often forget how hardworking girls can be. You want to plan your exit? That seems like a pretty hard thing to sell. Might do just as well try talking them into poly. At least then they get to keep you. | /r/seduction | 17/10/13 04:25 AM |
| 0 | NSA - How do you do it?To your point it will probably cut out 75-80% of the girls. But if you ever get sick of dating the princesses, the get-to-know-you's and the tire-kickers, it's probably worth it. Getting rid of all those massive time-killer categories of girls frees you up to be able to spend quality time with the kind you want. I agree the point needs to be worded better before it will be ready for use. How about: "I certainly wouldn't want money to interfere with our relationship." The alternative is to surpri… | /r/seduction | 17/10/13 03:49 AM |
| 0 | NSA - How do you do it?To your second point of not wanting girls to be a time or financial burden: One trick is to invite them to your house. That's a great compliance test because it weeds out the princesses who only want you to $pend money on them, the non-compliers who prefer to $pend several weeks getting to know you, and the tire-kickers who just like meeting new people, but not going home with them. And for dating, I've been working on a few methods of bringing it up beforehand: In the invitation: I'm going to t… | /r/seduction | 17/10/13 01:48 AM |
| 1 | NSA - How do you do it?His point is: How in the world are you going to change and improve without doing it? | /r/seduction | 17/10/13 01:33 AM |
| 3 | One sentence a girl told me that changed my whole perspective."One day, right after we had sex, my girlfriend said something to me I'll never forget: I'm so glad you had the balls to come up and talk to me." We should write that down on a card and keep it inside our wallets as a reminder that girls depend on us to approach them. | /r/seduction | 17/10/13 12:30 AM |
| 1 | Critique my 'first' openerYeah, what's with all those crude subliminal terms like getting the girl to say "fucked" and "too hard"? :o) Might as well run with it and add " but not in a good way" or "but not in the way I want to be". | /r/seduction | 17/10/13 12:13 AM |
| 3 | Critique my 'first' openerNo, that was perfection! Teasing a girl is basically anytime you show her something she wants, or might want, and then snatch it away. You showed her yourself, did a bit of kino, showed a little interest in her, and then snatched yourself away before she felt like she was finished with you. Every time you tease her with something, it just stokes her attraction even more. Next time you talk to her, you can tell her something really fun you're going to do, something that she would probably want to… | /r/seduction | 16/10/13 11:54 PM |
| 3 | Critique my 'first' openerYou squeeze her arm, say one thing and then say bye without talking with her about anything else? What are you trying to do, tease the poor girl so she'll be begging for more? :o) Damn right! | /r/seduction | 16/10/13 09:52 PM |
| 3 | I have become the ultimate number collector... but that's it! I need pointers from the experts to go beyond.Wow, I didn't think a 99% failure rate was even statistically possible- you could probably do just as well texting random numbers. What's your approach? How soon do you text them? And what do your text conversations look like? There is definitely something to be learned in your data, so if we dig through it, we might find a new rule, or at least reinforce one of the rules we already know. | /r/seduction | 16/10/13 09:40 PM |
| 2 | [FR] Going out alone: Awesome experience (+ Nightclub pickup)Rule #6: Be a rich guy picking up drunk rave girls in the Spanish Islands. Great field report. Someday I want to visit the party islands off the coast of Spain: Ibiza, Majorca and Menorca | /r/seduction | 16/10/13 03:47 AM |
| 1 | Totally wussed out todayWell, did you wuss out, or did you not have anything to talk about? Those are two different issues. | /r/seduction | 16/10/13 03:06 AM |
| 2 | FRx3 I need help going from heavy kino to sex once girls are back at my place.Haha, that last one is a ninja move. "We probably shouldn't" and "I don't think you're ready to take this into the bedroom". | /r/seduction | 16/10/13 02:55 AM |
| 1 | Aren't most of you here to get better with women so you can get laid?Well, you have to care about how they feel because that determines whether or not you go to jail after you get laid. Even a prostitute has to feel good afterward because you paid her, or else she will have you arrested also. In the US, girls are as powerful as police officers and they can have you arrested just as easily as ordering a pizza with a quick phone call. | /r/seduction | 16/10/13 02:37 AM |
| 1 | Stop Smiling. Women will find you more seductive.Well, there are so many different types of smiles: Cocky smile happy smile stupid smile laughing smile shit eating grin naughty smile surprise smile playful smile seductive smile approval/validation smile And the timing of a smile will either add or subtract value from your game. All I know is you have to be stingy with the approval/validation smile, because if you always give it away for free, your approval will have no value. | /r/seduction | 16/10/13 02:15 AM |
| 1 | Aren't most of you here to get better with women so you can get laid?The problem is, sex is short for sexual intercourse, which means that sex is a level of intercourse. Intercourse means communication. So, saying you want to have sexual intercourse without intercourse is like saying you want to get a touchdown without playing football. | /r/seduction | 16/10/13 01:35 AM |
| 1 | Aren't most of you here to get better with women so you can get laid?do you want to change into someone who likes talking to girls? The problem is, sex is short for sexual intercourse, which means that sex is a level of intercourse. Intercourse means communication. So, saying you want to have sexual intercourse without intercourse is like saying you want to get a touchdown without playing football. | /r/seduction | 16/10/13 01:23 AM |
| 1 | Aren't most of you here to get better with women so you can get laid?You seem more focused on talking with guys than talking with girl's . How about paying some attention to girls instead? You seem to be assuming you won't enjoy talking with them. Why do you think that? Would you enjoy talking with a hot girl, even if there was zero chance of getting laid? If the answer is no, then maybe you don't like girls as people. | /r/seduction | 16/10/13 12:54 AM |
| 2 | what do you think of this SedditGirls mostly judge a guy on their general looks, so just dress nice and you're in. They don't analyze every detail like you do in the mirror. This will probably work with about 1 out of four girls, which is the same or slightly better than number closing. The reason it might be more effective than number closing is you are sort of tricking her into thinking she likes you, which then becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy. | /r/seduction | 15/10/13 11:59 PM |
| 1 | Aren't most of you here to get better with women so you can get laid?You need to study the six guides on the sidebar and then walk down the street and practice on 10-20 girls per day. All your other problems will fix themselves. Also, just have fun with them instead of trying to get an outcome. Your outcome should be minutes spent talking to girls, and you should use some type of counting system. Each girl you talk to for five minutes, or longer counts as one of your girl friends for that day. (If any of your friends or family walks up while you're talking with o… | /r/seduction | 15/10/13 10:58 PM |
| 1 | what do you think of this SedditThis takes advantage of the biological freeze up that some girls experience when an attractive guy makes a move on them. "What would be your excuse not to kiss me right now?" makes for a plausible warning/invitation, so when he goes for it, the girl partially blames herself for not stopping him, which then makes her assume she must have in some level wanted it, and so she joins in, which then locks her wanting it into reality. This is an amazing hack and creates instant attraction with a girl. | /r/seduction | 15/10/13 08:50 PM |
| 1 | Kezia explains one of the main keys of seduction: Regulating the flow of validationIn this video, Kezia discusses some of her texting tricks, but she brings up a much more important piece of the puzzle that covers the entire spectrum of Seduction: Making a girl earn your validation. According to Kezia, one of the biggest mistakes men make is giving a girl too much value, validation and approval. What she's saying is guys need to seep it like Eminem does in Kill You: "I don't even believe in breathing I'm leaving air in your lungs just to hear you keep screaming for me to seep … | /r/seduction | 15/10/13 07:58 PM |
| 1 | Is it ever advantageous not to f-close?Anytime you make a girl work for your validation, you're being large and in charge. There's probably an advantage to making a girl earn your sexual validation, but that's more about how than when. I think it's the same as text gaming: If you have a seduction/teasing plan, then delaying is better so you can effectively carry out your strategy. If you don't have a plan, then any delay just gives her more time to lose interest and so in that case, quicker is better. | /r/seduction | 15/10/13 04:57 PM |
| 1 | 15 Day Game OpenersI like the one about picking something out for her in a clothing store: It's friendly yet still alpha, allows you to demonstrate attraction without putting her on a pedestal, and gives you an interesting activity to share with her over the next half hour. Tease her about her order. That's awesome- it combines an opener with a playful neg and makes her want to qualify herself. "What time is it?" needs a second half to be useful like "What time shall I pick you up?". Where is so and so store? coul… | /r/seduction | 15/10/13 04:07 PM |
| 1 | 5 Low-hanging fruit types of girlsThat would be an I.O.S. | /r/seduction | 14/10/13 04:58 AM |
| 3 | BASICS: 5 Low Hanging FruitsLow-hanging fruit=easiest things to do in order to get the maximum benefit with the least amount of effort, which is exactly what this list accomplishes. Maybe they were all expecting a low-hanging fruit list of the easiest types of girls to hit on. What are the easiest types of girl's to pick up? I think the keyword to look for is cheesy (Look for girls who are trying too hard.) Reasoning: When a girl overdoes getting ready to go out, she's not just going out to hang out with her friends - she … | /r/seduction | 14/10/13 03:19 AM |
| 1 | [FR] after a year sabbatical, dusting off my PUA skills (anyone can do this, don't sell yourself short)Well, since you're plowing through the bf response, maybe ask "Are you happy with everything?" I figure 1 in 4 will say no and might give you their number. For myself, I just don't feel like competing with the current bf and then always having to wonder if he's watching. | /r/seduction | 12/10/13 12:04 AM |
| 2 | The book "No more Mr. Nice" guy may have just changed meThe only thing I would add to this description is you are not responsible for where her reaction lands on the graph/bell curve for all women. The important aspect is to treat them as a huge and varied group, instead of treating each girl as if her reaction speaks for all girls. | /r/seduction | 11/10/13 11:04 PM |
| 2 | 9 Signs She Isn't Interested: Sometimes, it's time to move on or adjust your game.I know whoever downvoted this is someone who doesn't believe in articles that advance the field of seduction- someone who only likes to rehash things that are already widely known within the community, but doesn't believe in taking risks or moving forward. | /r/seduction | 11/10/13 07:17 PM |
| 1 | How I get 3 to 5 girls numbers every dayhahaha, well that's good to know, and a great comeback. | /r/seduction | 11/10/13 07:11 PM |
| 1 | How to I stop being an annoying pussy in general?I think you misunderstood his problem because of the way he worded it. He was asking how to stop people from walking all over him and fucking with him, not asking how he could become less annoying. | /r/seduction | 11/10/13 07:02 PM |
| 1 | How to I stop being an annoying pussy in general?I deleted my solution in deference to the downvotes, but your comment sort of validates my solution: It would certainly solve his problem of getting picked on, but to your point he might become more annoying in the process, which is true. | /r/seduction | 11/10/13 06:51 PM |
| 6 | How to I stop being an annoying pussy in general?Those are definitely his goals and perhaps should be his affirmations, but aren't they really just things that he already knows? If he could be this way he already would have. Why not give him some concrete actions to take instead of telling him how to feel? And you can't just tell him to stick up for himself. He already knows that also. | /r/seduction | 11/10/13 05:58 PM |
| 1 | 9 Signs She Isn't Interested: Sometimes, it's time to move on or adjust your game.Another great article. The next book will be: How to read Women | /r/seduction | 11/10/13 04:24 PM |
| 2 | Can I have some texting tips?What would you say to her if she was your friend? Just talk to her like she's your best friend as well as your f-buddy, and tell her what you're going to do with her when you get your hands on her. | /r/seduction | 11/10/13 12:53 AM |
| 1 | [FR] A New AFC Applies Techniques for the First TimeI laugh whenever I see someone try to say "The Game" is outdated. | /r/seduction | 10/10/13 10:58 PM |
| 3 | Anyone else have "success" but still no confidence?Well, so you are executing you own preferences. Girls are like paper cups: sometimes they fall apart and so you have to throw them away and go get another one. | /r/seduction | 10/10/13 02:27 AM |
| 2 | Anyone else have "success" but still no confidence?How long were your relationships after f-closing them: average, middle ones, longest ones? How many of them "got away" that you tried or wanted to keep, and how many did you lose interest in? | /r/seduction | 10/10/13 01:43 AM |
| 1 | Just read an extremely interesting article on the Science of female self-esteem. It strongly agrees with the Concept of game. Have a read and tell me your thoughts.This article boldly and aggressively tries to push the envelope on the current knowledge we have about seduction, and has a lot of heavy-hitting and divisive humor as well. I didn't exactly agree with everything, but I thoroughly enjoyed the read. Looking forward to the next one, and any other articles that have the audacity to be reckless and polarizing, because that's exactly how we need to be in order to move forward. | /r/seduction | 10/10/13 01:26 AM |
| 1 | Would this situation be worthwhile?Never ask a girl to make a move or decide anything. That's your job. | /r/seduction | 09/10/13 03:04 PM |
| 1 | Ummm help!Yes, I know you want to tell her how pretty she is and what a wonderful actress she is, and if there's anything she ever needs, you'll be happy to get it for her and if she every wants to hang out, you'll be free to spend time with her. Now that we've gotten all those natural tendencies you're feeling out of the way, if you want her to be attracted to you, then make sure you don't do ANY of those things. Ever. | /r/seduction | 09/10/13 02:55 PM |
| 76 | I've had terrible luck with women for most of my life and just yesterday, found out why. What now?Wow, she really is a true friend! | /r/seduction | 09/10/13 02:39 PM |
| 4 | How good are insults ?If you're pissing some of them off, you're doing it right | /r/seduction | 09/10/13 02:07 PM |
| 6 | When you cleverly patronize with confidence, girls want to talk to you.Your shoes are so adorable- my niece has a pair just like those. Nice jeans...they're so rodeo-ific. Cute dress, looks like you could go skipping through the puddles in it. Nice tennis shoes...that's so playful! Nice skirt! I have that same pattern in my living room curtains. The key is to pick her apart no matter what she is wearing, and be playful about it so she laughs too. | /r/seduction | 09/10/13 03:49 AM |
| 0 | 3 Reasons for a Man Not to Fall in LoveExcellent piece that actually takes a step forward, rather than just rehashing currently known. I had already come to these same conclusions myself, but assumed that it was just my own developing point of view. I look forward to reading more articles like this that seek to advance the field of social dynamics. | /r/seduction | 09/10/13 02:35 AM |
| 3 | How I get 3 to 5 girls numbers every dayI would only use "forward" with people over 50, or who have read a lot of books, because I'd be afraid younger women wouldn't even know what it means- that word dropped out of the English language somewhere between the 1970s and 1980s. I've never heard anyone ever use it in written or verbal form other than in old books. The idea behind random is it is often used in this type of situation and has a positive tilt, implying something interesting and unrelated to everything else going on. So, the o… | /r/seduction | 09/10/13 01:02 AM |
| 1 | Who pays on an insta-date?I still struggle with this issue myself. Do you bring it up beforehand by discussing money splitting in general, or attach it to the invite: "Want to treat ourselves to some lunch?" "Want to buy dinner with me at Applebee's?", or do you wait till the check comes and drop the bomb then? The issue with that is I feel like I'm taking back what many of them thought was a gift because they're so used to the guy paying. But on the oer hand, I feel like having the guy paying all the time corrupts the r… | /r/seduction | 08/10/13 01:56 PM |
| 1 | Cute vs Pretty vs BeautifulWell, you can say "Hi" and like the other guys are saying, compliment anything else about her or what she's doing, or use any sentences that start with "I like" or "I love" or "I want". Negs are popular to use with extra hot girls, but I prefer to limit it to helpful advice and or little corrections followed by a compliment, or any compliment that kids her about something or is slightly condescending: "You look so adorable with your little Mickey Mouse hair clip". Another aspect is to be in a hu… | /r/seduction | 08/10/13 01:29 PM |
| 3 | Cute vs Pretty vs BeautifulComplimenting her looks might make her feel good, but it doesn't necessarily make her feel good about you. And with some girls, complimenting their looks will actually lower your value to them, making them think you must not get out much, or talk to very many girls. With these girls, you get instantly categorized into the "supplicating loser" file. I've come to the conclusion that there are no advantages to complimenting a girl's looks, and only disadvantages so it's better not to do it. You can… | /r/seduction | 08/10/13 01:08 PM |
| 6 | I'm going to Vegas in November! Any tips?Keep betting on black, and each time you lose, double your bet. When you finally win, walk away. | /r/seduction | 08/10/13 12:46 AM |
| 1 | Kino while kissingTouch her face, her neck, reach around her waist, grab her hips, grab her ass, and if you're feeling daring, brush against her breasts and look her in the eyes to see what her reaction is. | /r/seduction | 07/10/13 10:52 PM |
| 0 | Intermediate Question: Female Pivots.I agree that girl's don't know what works on themselves. But guys seem pretty simple and uniform: a tight, short, low-cut outfit, or any outfit that enhances a girl's hourglass figure, served up with a wiggle, a jiggle, a giggle and a smile. Whenever I see a girl dressed like that, every guy she walks past either rubbernecks or reacts in some way, so it must be uniform. At least 95% of men by my count, from the few hundred I've observed. | /r/seduction | 07/10/13 10:44 PM |
| 0 | Intermediate Question: Female Pivots.I didn't know that. I was just thinking what a girl could do to get my attention, and so if a girl wore a short skirt and smiled at me and gave me a hi-five, I would definitely notice her and talk to her. I added the hi-five because it adds a little kino to drive the point home. I had a girl say hi to me in the supermarket yesterday, but she was walking fast with her friend and they were wearing Halloween masks, so I assumed she was saying it to everyone. But if she had hi-fived me, I would have… | /r/seduction | 07/10/13 10:16 PM |
| 0 | Intermediate Question: Female Pivots.How would that be interpreted as crappy advice? Guys don't talk to her because she doesn't interact with them and doesn't provide a visual. Sorry about projecting her point of view, but I've personally known a lot of women and there are certain things that uniform about them. I'll edit it out. | /r/seduction | 07/10/13 09:18 PM |
| 1 | [FR] Got a girl in my room, on my bed, with drugs in her system the first time we hung out. hug-close.I usually never say this, because thinking and planning dates and strategies is the most important part of pua, but...you are way, way overthinking it. In the situation you described, there are only two words for you to consider: Bring girl. In ballroom dancing, the guy leads and the girl follows. She waits for him and doesn't make a move or take a step until he guides her to. In dating, most girls are the same way. | /r/seduction | 07/10/13 08:40 PM |
| 1 | Can't get comfortable around girls! Any good life hacks or advice?Your dating is way too heavily invested and outcome-dependent. You need to change the types of dates you go on to fun things or things you would be doing otherwise so you don't have so much invested in them. And you need to date more than one girl at a time because part of your stress is having all your eggs in one basket. If you have a date with one girl on Friday night and another girl on Saturday night, the outcome of the Friday date doesn't matter anymore, so you can relax and have fun with … | /r/seduction | 07/10/13 07:40 PM |
| -1 | Intermediate Question: Female Pivots.Just tell her to dress sexy/slutty and smile at guys and greet them or give them hi-fives. I would definitely talk to a girl who did that. | /r/seduction | 07/10/13 06:51 PM |
| 3 | Is being emotionally unavailable a good thing?Mark Manson uses the word vulnerability for taking polarizing stands that make you vulnerable to arguments, ridicule and rejection. What he means is you should be audacious and speak to girls with reckless abandonment. The reason is it divides girls into three categories: receptive, neutral, and unreceptive. Most guys are afraid of being audacious, because it offends bottom half of the neutral girls and pushes them into the unreceptive category, but that's actually a good thing: You don't want t… | /r/seduction | 07/10/13 01:16 PM |
| 1 | Do you pay for the first date?Is that 1st date or all dates? My latest thought is I don't want the relationship to be corrupted by money, where she feels like she owes me for something, or starts doing some activities with me just because they are free, or going out with me just for the validation she gets for having money spent on her. That's a powerful thing. | /r/seduction | 07/10/13 05:28 AM |
| 1 | Chatting up girls on iphone app from nearby. Do they want to go straight to sexting? They seem promiscioushow do they seem promiscuous? Sexting is all about teasing them about doing things to them around a barrier, such as distance and time. | /r/seduction | 07/10/13 04:58 AM |
| 1 | An analysis of tonight's coffee dateSo, no assumed attraction, no flirting or iois, no kino, no escallation, and not even a hug goodbye. All I can say is: Welcome to Seddit! The only way to get a date out of her after that will be to say something racy that convinces her you won't be acting like a cold chaperone who doesn't seem attracted to her. Something like: "I really enjoyed meeting you, but next time I won't be keeping my hands to myself!" | /r/seduction | 07/10/13 04:00 AM |
| 1 | The girl that friend zoned me has been initiating contact with me and we set up a date. Not sure what to do.fuck her | /r/seduction | 07/10/13 03:45 AM |
| 3 | [FR] First success from game. Everything-but-F-close.It's interesting how a month ago, the most you would have gotten would be a smile out of her while standing in line, and then she would have been out the door, like all the others. Can you imagine if you could go back in time and date 1/5 of all the HBs you ever saw in your entire lifetime? We can, and that time is now. | /r/seduction | 07/10/13 03:41 AM |
| 2 | So what do you want them to think in the beginning? You're interested and willing to put in lots of effort? Or you don't care about them because there are so many other girls?Assume attraction, assume obedience, and assume good behavior until she does otherwise. When you think of it that way, you'll come across as large and in charge rather than needy or desperate. | /r/seduction | 06/10/13 07:20 PM |
| 48 | How I get 3 to 5 girls numbers every dayI would take out the word "strange" and change it to "random". Friend is a great subliminal word to use, but strange is too negative. A girl doesn't want to meet a strange dude, but she would want to meet someone who is a "friend". | /r/seduction | 06/10/13 03:18 AM |
| 1 | the importance of mirroring stateThat's an excellent point, and a great example to drive it home. But I would take it even a step further: Always match the state of the target, so you will be on the same wavelength as them. If I'm relaxed, a relaxed voice is very comfortable, while a quick, choppy voice would be very grating. And vice-versa. | /r/seduction | 05/10/13 12:08 PM |
| 1 | BASICS: 6 Ways to Approach WomenI like the point idea, like you're directing girl traffic. And hey, everyone here at the nightclub are friends of mine...come join us! | /r/seduction | 04/10/13 10:17 PM |
| 1 | Can I recover from this? Timeline of events included.sorry, that's wasn't the final draft- I was saying it from her point of view because girls generally watch out for guys who never listen. She seemed excited to hear from him and disappointed she couldn't make it, and really friendly towards him, so it didn't seem like the time criticize her once more instead of understanding her issues. | /r/seduction | 04/10/13 05:48 PM |
| 1 | Can I recover from this? Timeline of events included.She was obviously excited to hear from you and disappointed she couldn't go out with you, but after she gave you four reasons she can't make it, she wanted understanding, so it was the wrong time to chide her again. You're right, the frustrating disadvantage of text is that it's so absolute. Whatever words you say come down like a ton of bricks either one way or the other way. The only way to dig out of this hole is try to show her you are good at listening to her concerns and you're concerned a… | /r/seduction | 04/10/13 04:53 PM |
| 1 | Can I recover from this? Timeline of events included.She told him four reasons she didn't want to go out that night, and his response is to say I'm not listening to anything that matters to you, it must be because you must not like free alcohol. | /r/seduction | 04/10/13 04:22 PM |
| 2 | Can I recover from this? Timeline of events included.She quit talking because she was pissed that you weren't listening to her. She told you four different reasons why she didn't want to go out, and instead of respecting her, you insulted her with "But obviously you're not into that". I think you burned the bridge with her- not listening is a huge red flag for girls. | /r/seduction | 04/10/13 02:50 PM |
| 4 | My Cure to AAThat's a great idea to approach one girl per day, but there are tons of other types of interactions that girls like a lot more than beauty compliments: Just ask them how they are or compliment them on something they are doing, or part of their outfit. Show them a trick or involve them in some type of fun activity, or give them a gift or ask them a favor (Ben Franklin Effect). Disadvantages of beauty compliments: If she's hot, it's a cliche about her social rank that all the lesser people, the co… | /r/seduction | 04/10/13 02:13 PM |
| 1 | Made a Google Drive document of all my collected openers so far. Feel free to check 'em out!That's another snag- Girls want you to tell them. They hate it when guys ask them to decide something that's really up to them. All the guys on here seem to love that one but I think it could be a lot better written. Change it to "most interesting" and tell them which one you picked, and I think they would be much happier with that kind of attention. | /r/seduction | 04/10/13 01:28 AM |
| 0 | Made a Google Drive document of all my collected openers so far. Feel free to check 'em out!Okay, I'll give you #1 for the attitude, but #16 has got to go. It contains three major turnoffs for women: pedestal/loser admiration, sounds like a prank, and objectifying women in a looks competition as if who they are or what they're like doesn't even matter matter. I can't see how that would go over well. It's like a girl walking up and saying she bet her friends she would have to ask out the guy who is the tallest and makes the most money. If she is only average-looking you would probably t… | /r/seduction | 03/10/13 11:08 PM |
| -1 | Made a Google Drive document of all my collected openers so far. Feel free to check 'em out!Awesome list except for three of them: #6 is no good because telling her she's cute and gets hit on a lot is a fan move, putting her on a pedestal and yourself below her, and sounding like you're someone who's never seen or talked to a girl before, and that's the real reason you think an average person like her is so cute. #8 sitting with imaginary friends doesn't make any sense. .#16 has 4 major turnoffs for women: pedestal/loser admiration, sounds like a prank, objectifying women in a looks co… | /r/seduction | 03/10/13 10:05 PM |
| 1 | Lay Report- HBMysteriousI guess by calling it Lay report, it might sound a bit like bragging. Better to call it a field report, and let the ending be a surprise. Then it's like finding money or lost treasure. The first part is amazing: you walk up to a girl by the dance floor, tell her she's so fucking beautiful, ask her where she's from, and what kind of movies she likes, and then say she say she should come over to your house and watch some movies....and she says YES?? Either you left some parts out, or that's the fa… | /r/seduction | 03/10/13 06:16 AM |
| 1 | Texting logistics: Getting information, making commands, and keeping it playfulI would always engage her first- do an equipment check and check on her also "Hey ______ how are you? What's up, what are you up to?, or How is your day going? Then when she answers, you can give her your judgement on what she's doing or how she's handling whatever she's dealing with. Teasing a girl is all about using a barrier, such as distance, time into the future, another girl or your past relationship, or some impediment keeping you apart. The barrier is like a tree that you can reach aroun… | /r/seduction | 03/10/13 04:58 AM |
| 14 | [FR] F-closed a girl in a cornfield, my first one night standThat was some ninja witchcraft you pulled right there, staring into the guy's eyes and saying to the girl "I'm going to seduce you and we'll fuck all night." It looks like you're saying it to the guy, so she doesn't deflect the words, which allows them to sink directly into her and take root in her subconcious. | /r/seduction | 03/10/13 03:03 AM |
| 1 | [FR] F-closed a girl in a cornfield, my first one night standNot only did he diffuse the other guy, he cast a sexual spell on the girl in the process. | /r/seduction | 03/10/13 02:35 AM |
| 1 | [FR] Another fun, but frustrating failure about frame control. Old men! Motorboating!!I think op was screwed either way. Getting run into by an AMOG is like being in a car accident. Unless you can out-AMOG him, you're going to get scratched up and lose value no matter what you do, because his higher ranking is going to become apparent within the next five minutes. If you wait till that happens, even if you seem like you're buddies with him, you've already lost face. A first date is when the girl is still sizing you up, and your social rank/proof/personality is the biggest factor … | /r/seduction | 01/10/13 05:58 AM |
| 2 | How do you hug people?That was perfection...well played, sir! Would love to hear another story of you keeping her on her toes...those are priceless. I just found out about the "wait..." kiss, and so I can't wait to try it on some unsuspecting girl. But I only have time for texting at the moment, so I'll have to figure out a text equivelent. | /r/seduction | 01/10/13 04:22 AM |
| 1 | [FR] Another fun, but frustrating failure about frame control. Old men! Motorboating!!You could stay and try to fight him off with some AMOG destroyer routines, but it's going to get messy: Dancing Monkey Routine: "Look at you, such an alpha male taking over with your sto-ries...that's so cute....tell us another one!" | /r/seduction | 01/10/13 04:06 AM |
| 3 | How do you hug people?Mystery Method: Put 1 arm around her, look away and say "is she always like this?" Hold 3 seconds, then say "That's all you get'" push her away and roll off, and start wandering away like you forgot you were even talking to her. Mystery likes to do mini freeze-outs in order to train the girl to keep reaching for him and grabbing his attention. | /r/seduction | 01/10/13 03:43 AM |
| 1 | [FR] Another fun, but frustrating failure about frame control. Old men! Motorboating!!Fixed, I meant that's the result. She just sees a funny, interesting old guy. | /r/seduction | 01/10/13 03:29 AM |
| 1 | [FR] Another fun, but frustrating failure about frame control. Old men! Motorboating!!Well, to your point the girl is going to want to know why you want to bounce, just when you've met this nice, friendly old AMOG who's really funny. She's thinking we should stay and [lower your social value] with the nice old fellow for a bit. So we need an excuse to bounce. Maybe text or whisper "This guy's boring, let's go make out". Still, that's damage control. I'd rather rush her out of there before there's even a scratch. We need a quick bounce routine: "Come with me I need to tell you som… | /r/seduction | 01/10/13 03:12 AM |
| 4 | [FR] Another fun, but frustrating failure about frame control. Old men! Motorboating!!So, what's the lesson: Don't let the girl talk to anyone else while on a first date? I once took a first date to a bar and we started talking to a couple, which very quickly turned into an AMOG situation, and so I had to sit there helplessly as he took over the set, crushing my value in the process. I guess the solution is whenever anyone says something to your girl, just grab her and bounce. I guess you sort of did that, but in the wrong order. :o) I think piano dude saw what you were doing wit… | /r/seduction | 01/10/13 02:22 AM |
| 1 | I fucked up and now I'm faced with a decisionThe problem with your text was you asked her to jump through a hoop before you even engaged her. That's like stepping on the accelerator before you've even started up the engine. The first question should always simple: hi or hi_____, how are you? | /r/seduction | 01/10/13 01:58 AM |
| 1 | After the F-Close: Should you ever be the one to send the first text or propose the next meetup?I agree with you that this is an important consideration, and one I am currently researching and trying to figure out myself. The question is how to be a tease, which is half showing yourself, and half snatching yourself away. So, you can definitely check in on her anytime you like, because that's the showing yourself part. The key is to always remember to snatch your attention away, by cutting it short. So, call or text her long enough to get her attention, ask her how she is, and what she's do… | /r/seduction | 30/09/13 10:01 PM |
| 1 | txt conversationsYes, because later includes never. But if you said a little later, that would be a powerful tease. I'll talk with you a littke later. I'll give you a kiss...a little later. Would you like a cupcake? I'll give it to you a little later. | /r/seduction | 30/09/13 09:28 PM |
| 1 | keeping her interestedGetting her to pursue you requires offering and framing out things she wants, and throwing little obstacles in the way, making everything like an obstacle course or video game. It's basically being a troll. Want a kiss? Come over here and get it. I'm going to take you out to dinner....next month! Guess who I saw today? I'll tell you in a minute, but first check this out. The steps for teasing: offer her something, frame out the details, and bring it closer, and then offer it from it's new closer… | /r/seduction | 30/09/13 09:10 PM |
| 1 | Texting logistics: Getting information, making commands, and keeping it playfulThe best things to tempt a girl with are the ones with the longest descriptions: I'm going to take you to the cutest coffee shop it's on Main St. in a little brick building with a white ruffled fringe, and a white picket fence going around it, and it has cute little paths you can walk on, and little flower beds with every type of flower, and there's a little bench we can sit on outside and drink our coffee in big brown decorated mugs. Girls love shit like that, and the more drawn out it is, the … | /r/seduction | 30/09/13 04:18 AM |
| 3 | txt conversationsSorry, I don't have a transcript. Mine have been mostly checking on her and asking how she is like a concerned father. The other thing I like do is framing: Anything that refers to you and she having a relationship, like calling her Babe or Sweetheart and making jokes about you and her as a couple. Mystery says stuff like "Are you always like this?" "I guess I'll have to get used to putting up with this if I'm going to keep you around." I think the most important part is teasing and tempting her… | /r/seduction | 30/09/13 04:00 AM |
| -1 | Texting logistics: Getting information, making commands, and keeping it playfulWow, 9 out of 10 of them fall through? Here are some hints to improve that: I think the key to building attraction with a girl over texting can be accomplished by teasing and tempting her with things you can't immediately give to her: snatchaways Cat string theory: (Mystery) If you hand a feather to a cat, he will just put the feather down and look at you. He doesn't want the feather, because you just handed it to him. But if you show him the feather, and jerk it away just at the right time, the… | /r/seduction | 30/09/13 03:41 AM |
| 6 | txt conversationsI think the key to building attraction with a girl over texting can be accomplished by teasing and tempting her with snatchaways. Examples of Snatchaways- Anytime you offer something to a girl, but delay giving to her, it has the same effect as snatching it away: "I'll call you tomorrow" | /r/seduction | 30/09/13 03:05 AM |
| 0 | Texting logistics: Getting information, making commands, and keeping it playfulwhat percentage do you lose, and do you want a strategy to recover them? | /r/seduction | 30/09/13 02:50 AM |
| 2 | my flake ration is borderline insane almos 90% of my numbers are flakesFlakes are a function of how invested the girl feels and how seriously she takes you. So, if you come across as a nice guy who will understand if she flakes, she won't feel bad about flaking because you're such a sweet, understanding AFC. And if it's been a week since you've talked to her, she'll feel like she hardly remembers you and so she can feel comfortable flaking because she feels she hardly knows you anyway. So, the key is to get to know her, and let her know you're a serious person whos… | /r/seduction | 30/09/13 12:28 AM |
| 8 | How do you tease her so she wants you more?A lesson from the Gingerbread Man The Gingerbread Man is a great example of the snatchaway. The Gingerbread Man teases and baits people into chasing him by presenting himself as the prize, and then snatching the prize away by running away from them. It's the snatching himself away that makes him valuable: people value things they might lose many times more than things that are readily available. Examples of Snatchaways- Anytime you offer something to a girl, but delay giving to her, it has the s… | /r/seduction | 30/09/13 12:04 AM |
| 3 | Pushaway framing?The example that brought this up was we were talking about a tease, joking to a girl who is very loud that she should try to meet a guy who is hard of hearing. Whenever you tell a girl to go do something without you, you're pushing her away. By suggesting a type of guy for her to meet, you're framing her into meeting someone, and pushing her away by telling her to go meet someone else. Hence the term pushaway framing: the strategy of push-away framing a girl so she will rebound back towards you.… | /r/seduction | 29/09/13 10:14 PM |
| 5 | Per request: A bit on identifying DTFnessMuch appreciated! She agrees to come to your place: I like that one a lot. Being willing to come to your place shows you that she's not afraid to fuck and it also shows she doesn't have control issues, which might otherwise be an indicator of sexual hangups. It also shows her to be very trusting, which usually indicates she is very trustworthy herself. At the other end of the spectrum, if she's not trusting, she might be extra careful, extra controlling, wanting everything to be just so and perf… | /r/seduction | 29/09/13 09:26 PM |
| 1 | [META] We need some required reading here. Most of all of your problems could be answered in depth with just a few books. If you actually want a dramatic change, you need a serious foundation. Let me start:I'd say it's a must, as it teaches you how to continue any conversation. | /r/seduction | 29/09/13 08:17 PM |
| 0 | OUTER GAME: 6 Ways to Gauge Her InterestAnother top shelf article! I like the apology arm touch- that's a valuable new addition to the traditional ioi list. It's refreshing to read such a tightly-written piece. | /r/seduction | 29/09/13 07:15 PM |
| 1 | Am I being too much of a "bad boy"?That's an example of pushaway framing, sort of teasing her for not fitting into the frame by implying she's not good enough. Using a pushaway on a girl makes her feel like a kitten that's been tossed outside in the snow and told to fend for itself. She naturally wants to come back inside where it's warm and cozy and be next to you, but she won't think of it that way until after you toss her outside. It's only when you present to her the contrast, that she decides she wants to be with you. | /r/seduction | 29/09/13 05:17 PM |
| 1 | Am I being too much of a "bad boy"?That's very good, conversation-wise, but framing-wise, it seems like you're framing her as not being your type, and into someone who should meet "some guy" who is. And it's too deep to have value as a pushaway...better to use superficial things like the "loud person" part for that, such as "You should go meet some dude who is hard of hearing". I really like that "meet a guy who" pushaway, though and will start using that one myself. | /r/seduction | 29/09/13 04:03 PM |
| 1 | How to screen out the 50% of women who have sexual hangups:hehehhe, I wondered how girls themselves would react. But they as individuals, the girls themselves are innocent, it's the bad culture that shames them- that's the problem. | /r/seduction | 29/09/13 02:50 PM |
| 2 | How to screen out the 50% of women who have sexual hangups:I suppose that's after you give them a very large taste of beer.... Maybe we could use that same survey on them: "What do you think of girls who are okay with sleeping with someone they just met?" | /r/seduction | 29/09/13 02:32 PM |
| 1 | How to screen out the 50% of women who have sexual hangups:That's a lot of valuable advice. | /r/seduction | 29/09/13 01:51 PM |
| 1 | How to screen out the 50% of women who have sexual hangups:good point, edited to reflect that. | /r/seduction | 29/09/13 01:44 PM |
| 1 | How to screen out the 50% of women who have sexual hangups:That's a good idea: play the questions game. But what sexual question to ask, when women are taught by society to suppress discussion of their own needs. It would have to be something that they would feel comfortable admitting, and doesn't set them up for someone to be able to say "wow, you're such a slut", which is what they're protecting themselves from and why they are overly cautious about discussing sex. What's your favorite position? What's your craziest, most intense sexual experience? Wh… | /r/seduction | 29/09/13 01:00 PM |
| 2 | How to screen out the 50% of women who have sexual hangups:It's a large portion, but what's more important is the valuable time you lose "getting to know" the wrong type of person...someone who is "not ready" for a sexual relationship. | /r/seduction | 29/09/13 12:49 PM |
| 2 | How to screen out the 50% of women who have sexual hangups:That's very good...definitely separates out the ones who will. But another thing to consider is many girls who are DTF are still leary of guys who only want that, so we'll need to come in under that radar as well. And many girls don't like to stick their necks out and admit that they want it, so might be better to tell them what you want, and include them in it. Still, "Do you want to fuck?" is the only phrase so far that seems to clearly resolve the issue. | /r/seduction | 29/09/13 12:38 PM |
| 1 | How to screen out the 50% of women who have sexual hangups:Yes, there might be some non-verbal questions we can ask. But kissing and general touch will only explose a tiny fraction of them. Most girls know how to pass the makeout screen. Maybe a specific touch test. | /r/seduction | 29/09/13 12:25 PM |
| 3 | Lay Report- HBMysteriousI need a cigarette | /r/seduction | 29/09/13 01:46 AM |
| 1 | [xMODx] Seddit Simple Questions Thread 9/27/13You just tease her with things and wait for her to ask for them, before giving them to her. | /r/seduction | 28/09/13 10:47 PM |
| 2 | An example of how money does not matter at all.Yeah, money and looks each count for about 10%, while game and social proof count for 60%. This girl wanted to cuddle, so you should try the Mystery Method style kino and make it a game of giving her reward cuddles and then pushing her away. It's like pushing a dog away from it's toy, it only makes them more aggressive. | /r/seduction | 28/09/13 04:35 PM |
| 2 | "Why Looks Don't Matter" - For me, they doGetting the surgery could boost your attractiveness to women by about 10%. Here's the breakdown: Looks 10% Income 10% Personality 20% Game and social proof 60% | /r/seduction | 28/09/13 01:30 PM |
| 1 | [xMODx] Seddit Simple Questions Thread 9/27/13About 10% of women don't need this. But the other 90% will think you're boring if you don't do it. So, not doing it is basically swimming against the current. It can be done, but it's much easier and a lot less frustrating to just go with the flow. | /r/seduction | 28/09/13 12:29 PM |
| 1 | [FR]Online date & lesson learnedWelcome to Seduction, although you already sound like a pro. Thanks for the FR and the tips! | /r/seduction | 28/09/13 04:32 AM |
| 1 | [xMODx] Seddit Simple Questions Thread 9/27/13If you hand a feather to a cat, he will just put the feather down and look at you. He doesn't want the feather, because you just handed it to him. But if you show him the feather, and jerk it away just at the right time, the cat goes crazy, wanting that feather. But he doesn't value the feather until you snatch it away. Likewise, if you just give a girl your attention and validation, she won't want it, or you...at all. It's like sticking a plate of food in someone's face and saying "eat". | /r/seduction | 28/09/13 03:47 AM |
| 3 | [xMODx] Seddit Simple Questions Thread 9/27/13That's pretty good. One change I like to make is always change the wimpy "Can I" to the powerful "I want" or "I'm going to" or "we should". "I want your number so we can grab coffee sometime" "You should give me your number so we can grab coffee sometime" "I like you and I want to meet you for coffee sometime. What IS your number?" Aother technique is to soften the blow of the question by spreading it out, giving her a tease, and letting her savor it. The tease: "You're cute. I'm going to ask yo… | /r/seduction | 28/09/13 02:57 AM |
| 2 | OUTER GAME: Some of my favorite 'LMR' blaster linesI'm not sure what "what are you afraid of?" accomplishes. The subliminal message implies she's afraid of having sex, which is a powerful negative message that might not even be true, but on the other hand, examining what she's afraid of might make it less fearful. Maybe there's another way we can ask her, without making her think she's afraid. What's your problem? Too soon, I need to get to know you. What are you afraid of? I just need more time to get to know you, so we'll know we're right for … | /r/seduction | 28/09/13 02:11 AM |
| 1 | The super-romantic game (or) How I started being really confidentSo, your being my girlfriend is a good suggestion? But, I didn't ask you yet :o) | /r/seduction | 28/09/13 01:23 AM |
| 1 | [xMODx] Seddit Simple Questions Thread 9/27/13You're giving her your attention and validation too freely. You need to make her work for it. One way is by using snatchaways and pushaways. A snatchaway is you offer to give her something or offer to do something with her, but by moving it to the future, you're effectively snatching it away from her, making her want it more. Pushaways involve physically and verbally pushing her away. Start giving her kino more often as a reward anytime she says something you like, but always cutting it short, s… | /r/seduction | 28/09/13 01:13 AM |
| 1 | [xMODx] Seddit Simple Questions Thread 9/27/13That's an important topic. Tell you what- I'll trade ideas with you. For each idea you reply with, I'll reply with another one. I'll start One thing you can do is tempt her with offers. Things she can't have...yet. First, you start with an indicator of interest, followed by a flirt and then a negative (in any order): "You're fun to talk to" "I'm finding it hard not to kiss you" "although you're kind of low-key tonight, so I'm not sure if you have done anything to deserve a kiss" | /r/seduction | 28/09/13 12:52 AM |
| 1 | [xMODx] Seddit Simple Questions Thread 9/27/13You need to study up on Mystery Method Kino. Use your imagination. When playing cards, the winner gets some type of kino, or the loser has to remove a piece of clothing. | /r/seduction | 28/09/13 12:39 AM |
| 1 | [xMODx] Seddit Simple Questions Thread 9/27/13You need an opener line that can segway into asking for her phone number. Let's take turns making up some possible lines. For each one you come up with, I'll keep responding with another one, and anyone else is welcome to join in. I'll go first with three of my own: Are you interested in meeting someone? Do you have a boyfriend? Are you happy being single? Are you looking to meet someone new? Are you interested in meeting new people? | /r/seduction | 28/09/13 12:34 AM |
| 7 | [xMODx] Seddit Simple Questions Thread 9/27/13Most puas recommend avoiding texting except for logistics, because if you do it wrong you'll lose the girl. So the best is of course to get with her in person. But if you must text, the first thing to consider is not to treat them like a friend. A girlfriend is more like a student, an employee or subordinate, and you're her advisor. So try not to make buddy jokes- the only jokes you should make are ones framing her into a relationship. You can check on her like "how ya doing?" "what are ya doing… | /r/seduction | 28/09/13 12:14 AM |
| 1 | BASICS: 6 Common IOIs Every Man Should KnowThis article belongs in one of the major mens magazines. | /r/seduction | 27/09/13 11:35 PM |
| 2 | BASICS: 6 Common IOIs Every Man Should KnowYou need to brush up on the MM for kino. It's all about pushaways. Toss that kitten out in the snow, and she'll want to come back inside and be next to you where it's warm and cozy. | /r/seduction | 27/09/13 11:31 PM |
| 1 | The super-romantic game (or) How I started being really confidentIf I declared you as my girlfriend, then you would become my girlfriend. The words are what make it so. Marriage is different, because I can't declare you as my wife. But I can delcare you as my girlfriend. | /r/seduction | 27/09/13 10:45 PM |
| 1 | The super-romantic game (or) How I started being really confidenthow would words that create a frame be lying, when it is the words that define the frame. | /r/seduction | 27/09/13 09:57 PM |
| 6 | [FR] On the train and follow-up textsSo many categories checkmarked...using so few words. A truly masterful performance! | /r/seduction | 27/09/13 09:37 PM |
| 4 | The super-romantic game (or) How I started being really confidentThis is suggestion framing, which is a very powerful technique. You can be in the middle of talking to a girl and then suddenly declare her to be your girlfriend | /r/seduction | 27/09/13 08:54 PM |
| 1 | [META] We need some required reading here. Most of all of your problems could be answered in depth with just a few books. If you actually want a dramatic change, you need a serious foundation. Let me start:Well, I'll grant you that traditional negging might need some type of improvement, as it does suffer from that criticsm you mentioned. But it appears to be a step in the direction we need to go. Maybe the negging simply frames you as an advisor to the girl, and so the solution is to find something else that will accomplish the same thing, but is actually something that is helpful or useful to the girl. | /r/seduction | 27/09/13 08:35 PM |
| 1 | [META] We need some required reading here. Most of all of your problems could be answered in depth with just a few books. If you actually want a dramatic change, you need a serious foundation. Let me start:But you can't go in that direction without going in that direction. There's always going to be a slope, and women don't accept it it rising toward them. I don't like it either but we don't have a choice: It's their rule. | /r/seduction | 27/09/13 07:35 PM |
| 0 | [META] We need some required reading here. Most of all of your problems could be answered in depth with just a few books. If you actually want a dramatic change, you need a serious foundation. Let me start:I appreciate your effort to explain it, but I think you are just confirming what I suspect: that it's an inner game book that's just for building your self confidence and befriendzoning girls. That's important to people who need that, but I don't believe I do. My biggest problems have always been related to the "nice guy" syndrome and destroying the value of my attention and approval by always just handing it over to the girl. And it seems clear that the book doesn't address either of those issu… | /r/seduction | 27/09/13 07:27 PM |
| -6 | [META] We need some required reading here. Most of all of your problems could be answered in depth with just a few books. If you actually want a dramatic change, you need a serious foundation. Let me start:I read the first 1/5 of Mark Manson's Models that's provided for free, and he basically lost me when he started spouting a bunch of white knight bs, and contradicted the Mystery Method, saying you should never talk down to a girl. Look, if you draw a line between you and the girl, it's either going to slope up towards you, or up towards the girl, putting her on a pedestal. And we all know what happens when it slopes down towards us: Nothing Does this book contribute anything else to the field of… | /r/seduction | 27/09/13 03:38 PM |
| 1 | About CALIBRATION, one of the most important dating skills in my opinionI understand your point, but without a plan, calibration is a completely worthless exercise. Perhaps you like to plan things on the fly, but that's the same argument people who think they don't use openers make against using openers. Easy for you to say, but non-applicable for everyone else. | /r/seduction | 27/09/13 05:51 AM |
| 1 | what'd I do wrong?"Maybe" means no "Let's" means yes | /r/seduction | 27/09/13 04:37 AM |
| 6 | A Beginner's Primer to Social Proof/Value: Why you should friend zone high level HBs.I knew it! So, friendzoning a girl is another pushaway that makes a girl feel like a little kitten that was tossed outside in the snow. She wants to come back inside with you, where it's warm and cozy. But she didn't see it that way until AFTER you tossed her outside. So now it seems very warm and cozy with you -because- you tossed her outside. What are some of the movies that demonstrated this? I thought the chick flicks show everybody as feel-good best friends wearing sweaters and drinking cof… | /r/seduction | 27/09/13 12:58 AM |
| 1 | About CALIBRATION, one of the most important dating skills in my opinionGreat point and great article. After reading your article, I'm thinking we need to make a complete list of eye and face tells, and a strategic flowchart for steps to take depending on the calibration results. Here's one, I think: While you're talking to someone, they continually look you in the eye, and their face is motionless: Possibly not listening, but pretending to. Someone who is listening will sometimes smile at the edges, sometimes mouth "yeah" or open wide in amazement, or will sometime… | /r/seduction | 27/09/13 12:44 AM |
| 1 | Sticking points?What do you mean a good sticking point to have....what, you don't do negs either? | /r/seduction | 27/09/13 12:24 AM |
| 1 | A Beginner's Primer to Social Proof/Value: Why you should friend zone high level HBs.Have any stories of a girl you friendzoned becoming more attracted to you- because you friendzoned her? I'm curious if it might be an effective technique to bring a girl closer. | /r/seduction | 26/09/13 10:51 PM |
| 2 | A Beginner's Primer to Social Proof/Value: Why you should friend zone high level HBs.I wonder if friendzoning HB9-10s would be a great way to cure their AA... That way if they're shot down, it was just over a low-value friendship anyway, so not much of a loss. | /r/seduction | 26/09/13 09:06 PM |
| 3 | A Beginner's Primer to Social Proof/Value: Why you should friend zone high level HBs.was that with their own friends or with strangers? If with strangers, what did they do? | /r/seduction | 26/09/13 09:02 PM |
| 2 | A Beginner's Primer to Social Proof/Value: Why you should friend zone high level HBs.|And lastly, don't get friendzoned...friendzone them first Why...Is that in the hope that she switches back? I wonder if friendzoning a girl would have some value as a pushaway. | /r/seduction | 26/09/13 09:00 PM |
| 1 | OUTER GAME: 7 ways to isolate your target at a bar/clubGreat article! We should try to think of some more openers to say to the friends. I got one: introduction ladder: Hi, my name is ____ , nice to meet you. Hi, my name is ____ , nice to meet you. Hi, my name is ____ , nice to meet you. Then when you reach the target, she'll see that you've already met her friends. | /r/seduction | 26/09/13 04:09 PM |
| 1 | Diversify your gameYes, this is an important part of seduction, but what is even more important is focusing on the transition from when you have her highly stimulated intellectually, to transitioning the discussion to a sexual one, or introducing sexual thoughts or feelings. That's a topic that needs discussion. | /r/seduction | 26/09/13 04:02 PM |
| 1 | OUTER GAME: 7 ways to isolate your target at a bar/clubThe main issue I had with online dating was spending endless hours "getting to know" 20-30 women who were not serious about starting a relationship. If there was just some way to screen out all the "tire kickers" who are more than happy to introduce you to hundreds of details of their life, their family, their pet goldfish, and every detail of each family member's life as well. They'll bury you in details, except the part that she's just meeting guys because she's curious, and that she's not par… | /r/seduction | 26/09/13 03:53 PM |
| 1 | Sticking points?My sticking point is negging. I understand the importance of it, but just can't seem to do it. The answer is just practice it every day on strangers, but it's hard to get into the negging mindset. | /r/seduction | 26/09/13 03:23 PM |
| 5 | OUTER GAME: Some of my favorite 'LMR' blaster linesThat's good advice for the first night of LMR, but what do you do with the perpetual postponers? | /r/seduction | 26/09/13 03:07 PM |
| 1 | How To Make Love Better Than A Pornstar (How To be Her Best Partner... Ever)These are things I call "snatchaways". When you declare that you're going to do something to someone, or give them something in the near future, it produces the cat-string effect of showing them something, and then immediately snatchng it away from them. It's just out of their reach because it's in the future. This makes them want it very badly. | /r/seduction | 26/09/13 01:40 AM |
| 1 | Have you ever won a girl back after going full out wuss?I think the determining factor is whether or not you can communicate with her on a regular basis. If you can, then it's as simple as finding the right hack to win her back, and I've been working on a few routines to do that. It's like an old hacker saying I once heard: "if it's connected, it's hackable." Same goes for people. | /r/seduction | 26/09/13 01:27 AM |
| 1 | Boners around pretty girl!I've heard of ton of "got lucky" stories that all started out with some girl discovering a guy's boner. As long as you don't point it out, it's a huge plus as far as seduction goes, if she discovers it on her own. | /r/seduction | 26/09/13 01:14 AM |
| 1 | Is this something we men can use xpost from fPUAThanks for the reference, but it was the other way around: I was helping out the female side with the techniques we've been discussing here. I think the techniques pretty much work on both men and women: we all get bored with stuff that is handed to us, and we all value things we might lose more than things that are plentiful. | /r/seduction | 26/09/13 01:01 AM |
| 3 | OUTER GAME: Some of my favorite 'LMR' blaster linesI think the best way to deal with LMR is with pushaways to put her in the position of having to prove these statements are not true: "If you aren't comfortable with me, I understand" (this one is the best) "Maybe I'm not your type" "You don't seem ready for a relationship" "maybe you need more time to yourself, to get over your ex" "If you're perpetually postponing participation, maybe you're just not emotionally available/capable of having a sexual relationship. Girls who have emotional issues … | /r/seduction | 25/09/13 04:37 PM |
| 1 | [FR] Day-2 ended within 15 minutes. FailureLike Ratatagoat says she got control of the frame which was unfortunate. The counter move is to gain physical control and compliance from her. Grab her shoulders and adjust her stance in order to knock her off her balance, and lead her by the hand to the other side of the bar so she depends on you for balance. Kino: I didn't see much kino, so you need to brush up on Mystery Method kino teases like giving her hug rewards and iois whenever she says something interesting, and pushing her away with … | /r/seduction | 25/09/13 03:13 PM |
| 1 | [FR] Day-2 ended within 15 minutes. FailureWell, if she was playing hard to get, there are a number of kino moves you can make, and then if they don't work, you can do the Freeze Out, which is a sledgehammer move that you should only use when everything else fails: You just turn away and don't look at her, or even acknowlege her existance. Girls can't survive without communication, and so it's extremely effective. | /r/seduction | 25/09/13 07:16 AM |
| 1 | [FR] Day-2 ended within 15 minutes. FailureWhen things aren't going right, I don't think bouncing a girl is a good idea. "I don't know I really like this place" was her answer, and so I think you should have cut the date short right there and offered to take her home. But it seems like you skipped the entire chapter on kino, and so she might have just been bored with all that talking and no action. I think she didn't want to change venues because she knew it would just be more talking, wherever you went. In Ballroom dance, the man leads … | /r/seduction | 25/09/13 06:07 AM |
| 1 | K-closed a football players girlfriend.Nobody seems to believe you. Your level of game is way, way beyond anything these guys can even imagine. How the fuck did you even get to this level? Did you read all the books on seduction...or did you just take a shit-ton of notes and learn it all on here? | /r/seduction | 25/09/13 05:21 AM |
| 1 | K-closed a football players girlfriend.My god, we've created a monster. This high schooler wields the PUA game like he's some kind of jedi master, walking through old-school limitations like they're not even there. That was a flawless execution- you nailed nearly every technique we've been discussing over the past three weeks. That football player is history...there's no way in hell he can compete with a Seddit master. The only thing left to say is "Sorry", and maybe you could make it up to him by offering to teach the poor guy some … | /r/seduction | 25/09/13 03:33 AM |
| 7 | What do you say to "my eyes up here"?Just just take the naughty/bad boy/cute approach: Look into her eyes with a naughty, sheepish grin, saying "I'm sorry", as if you got caught stealing a cookie from the cookie jar. She'll probably soften and forgive you. | /r/seduction | 25/09/13 03:20 AM |
| 2 | Women picking up women.So, my wife and I just won the lottery, and it's been pretty fun for both of us, but the problem we keep encountering is how to spend these multi-million dollar checks that keep coming in every month. So, I guess what I'm asking is: Sexit, can you help us think of some ways we can spend the money? Just kidding- Hey, congratulations on winning the sexual lottery! To answer your question, I would imagine you could play the "better girl" routine: First, walk around a nightclub to be seen separately… | /r/seduction | 25/09/13 03:02 AM |
| 1 | Looking for material on getting girl to invest, push/pull and turning the table to get her to chase meGood one! And when she pouts you can say "come here" and offer her a hug as a consolation prize, to console her for having her hi-five snatched away. :o) (pushaway) "You're such a nice girl, you should talk to some of the guys around here" She'll be thinking: "But I'd rather stay here and talk with you" :/ (snatchaway) "I'll text you later on today" Girl: Awesome...oh you mean-later. um, okay...I'll wait till then :/ Hint: Some of these can be things to offer girls you meet in a classroom, in a … | /r/seduction | 25/09/13 02:07 AM |
| 5 | Looking for material on getting girl to invest, push/pull and turning the table to get her to chase meI think the key to building attraction with someone who isn't naturally or already attracted to you can be accomplished by tempting her with things you can't immediately give to her (snatchaways) and gently pushing her away, which generally causes a girl to gravitate closer to you, in order to retain her balance. Cat string theory: (Mystery) If you hand a feather to a cat, he will just put the feather down and look at you. He doesn't want the feather, because you just handed it to him. But if yo… | /r/seduction | 25/09/13 01:18 AM |
| 1 | Man of seddit that pretty much accomplished what you wanted with your self-improvement. What is you re life now ?Thanks! These stories are fun because when we read em, it feels like it happened to us also, so we get to enjoy the memory too! | /r/seduction | 24/09/13 09:36 PM |
| 2 | Man of seddit that pretty much accomplished what you wanted with your self-improvement. What is you re life now ?Wow, that's awesome! There's nothing more fun than reading lucky stories. Got any more? I want to know how you got on that conversation...how did you bring it up? | /r/seduction | 24/09/13 06:42 PM |
| 2 | To the guys with Approach Anxiety: Sarge/Scratch that girl!How's that? | /r/seduction | 24/09/13 02:14 PM |
| 3 | To the guys with Approach Anxiety: Sarge/Scratch that girl!Haha, yeah most of the ones I pick are: can I see your fing...yeah, thought so. | /r/seduction | 24/09/13 04:34 AM |
| 5 | Pheromones?I don't think anyone here messes with stuff like that. There are so many other aspects of the game that matter: seduction is a mental game. You'd do just as well dabbing yourself with a few drops of vanilla....and then girls will follow you around thinking you have cookies. | /r/seduction | 24/09/13 03:09 AM |
| 0 | To the guys with Approach Anxiety: Sarge/Scratch that girl!Well, that's a good way to look at it. But whenever guys on here talk about getting with HB7s, I'm always thinking...you might as well discard them and go for higher because the only difference between an HB7 and an HB8 is how you feel about them. HB7 is never going to make you shudder when she walks by, so you might as well stick with the ones that do. | /r/seduction | 24/09/13 12:39 AM |
| 2 | [FR] Started off well, but no f/k-close. Looking for advice/should I still pursue?In ballroom dancing, the man leads and the woman follows. She doesn't go right unless you move her right. She doesn't go left unless you move her left. She doesn't spin unless... well, you get the picture. Women are the same way on a date. She doesn't kiss unless you kiss her. She was just waiting for you to make your move. | /r/seduction | 23/09/13 02:05 PM |
| 1 | had a bounced two set blow up in my face, here's why[FR]So, how did you leave it with them? I wonder what would happen if you just kept on giving both attention...would they say you gotta pick one of us, or just keep on going along, not wanting to ruin it for the other one? It's hard to imagine them going from "I like you, this is fun"...to "I don't like you because you didn't ditch my friend." That wouldn't make any sense, so i wonder how it would play out? I'm thinking if they are cool to hang out again, maybe you could develop them into powerful, … | /r/seduction | 23/09/13 01:33 PM |
| 1 | How to Kill College and Earn a Kick-Ass Social Circle (Plus the under-discussed art of Bro-Game)Great job on getting lean! Another thing to consider is that women judge you half with their own eyes, and half with the people around you's eyes, especially the other women. It's sort of a group judgement, so if you stack the group with your own friends, you control the judgement. | /r/seduction | 22/09/13 05:56 PM |
| 4 | How to Kill College and Earn a Kick-Ass Social Circle (Plus the under-discussed art of Bro-Game)This forum is not a place for venting your own emotional issues. If you have criticism for a certain phrase or idea, you are invited to make your point about it, but you can't just launch empty insults at people. That kind of behavior cheapens the value of the forum, and as such it places you in violation of the terms of service. Perhaps you didn't know that, so I'll give you a 24 hour window to fix your message, or replace it with something that pertains to the discussion. Welcome to Reddit | /r/seduction | 22/09/13 02:14 PM |
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