Ethics of RSD?

Jake_STi-RA · 2013-11-01T01:50:50+00:00

It's intimidating. They give good lessons (IE, being in state, how to always have something to say, how to deal with shit tests...) on inner game, but the way some of them act is crazy.

Look at how RSD Jeffy deals with being stood up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFSBjjAu_s0 I could never do that. I'd be unpopular so quickly. Then again, it's not MY style. They are huge on emphasizing taking yourself and style and making it the best it can be. Watch more videos. Notice NONE of them say anything on WHAT to say, but rather HOW to say it.

I don't really see any 'negs' from them from all the videos I've watched. We aren't dealing with Neil Strauss or Mystery here; no straight insults other than bar banter and being a bit of an asshole.

I can relate more for people like RSD Todd or Alex because they're more chillax like I am.

For the most part, it makes me say "It's easy to condone 'don't give a fuck' so easily when your career is to sleep with women."

I like them. However, it's a bit ridiculous how their business model works. $5,000 for a boot camp? Seriously? Unless you lack serious motivation to force YOURSELF out, you don't need to pay $5,000+travel expenses to approach women at clubs and the mall.

sedditdee · 2013-11-01T00:40:46+00:00

RSD teaches guys to "neg" chicks? Isn't that "outdated" and "robotic"?

It's almost like Tyler stole his whole approach to pickup from Mystery and Style circa 2006, or that the foundations of Jeffy's game were cribbed almost entirely from Ross Jeffries.

Oh, wait...

No, it's all about self-confidence, being completely amorally true and "congruent" to your "intent", "bringing value" and "offering quality content" and maybe spontaneously lovestriking the nimbus? (Don't worry, that last "nimbus" bit was always ridiculous gibberish, regardless of who said it, or how congruent his intent was.)

Quality Deluxe, mate. RSD are the real role models in poorly regurgitated self-help, I mean blatantly plagiarized and recycled seduction techniques... I mean, "natural game" and self-improvement -- for today's world.

Anyone who is ethical enough to steal other peoples' ideas (see: negging, social circle game, frame control, AMOGing, state-pumping, push-pull, etc.) and re-brand them using "lifestyle enhancement" mumbo-jumbo deserves every dollar he can squeeze from you before your wallet (considerably lighter by that time) wakes up. Internet-based marketing at its finest; lure them in with "free" and give them what they don't realize that they can get in its original quality elsewhere. By the time they realize, they won't care because they've already "bought in" and accepted you as their one and true guru.

Don't drink the snake oil, man. You'll end up a mindless troll like the "RSD Truth Squad" roving on /r/seduction, downvoting any dissenting perspectives (watch what happens to this comment's votes) and offering RSD unearned publicity by relentlessly plugging their free videos on seddit every day or so.

"Julien and Tyler... love those two!" - Typical RSD Troll

Anytime you hear any of the RSD coaches speak, find the real source of their words, then decide to keep or discard the information for yourself. If it feels wrong, throw it away; it's probably one of Tyler's priceless "original philosophical insights", or one of the other coaches' forays into pseudoscience mixed the bizarre, reality-distorted "motivational" language of Internet Marketing and Self-Help Speak.

Ethical behavior has never been RSD's strong point. The reason for this is Tyler himself (not to mention Jeffy). And Julien's unique contribution to game is the unabashed emotional manipulation of women with as much "drama" as possible.

If you want role models, find a different group of guys.

tingerwoods · 2013-12-16T07:07:27+00:00

yeah, i think that they are being mean towards women. they don't even think what will a woman feel, all they know is to just earn money

tingerwoods · 2013-12-18T02:56:15+00:00

It's insane! Why would you insult a girl right in front of them? That mastermind program are teaching guys how to be disrespectful towards women just for the sake of picking them up. Why would someone do that and for what? I mean, there are lots of seduction techniques out there that boost your confidence but in a good way.

http://enticethem.net

ImKumarYo · 2013-11-01T02:20:50+00:00

If you find value in the material they put out then continuing watching their material and apply it to your own value/moral system.

Title	Ethics of RSD?
Author	Sanigav
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Date	November 1, 2013 12:09 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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