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IOD examples for micro-calibration

jocomoco · 2016-05-02T09:10:27+00:00

My dilemma is how to cause a feeling of uncertainty in her mind: she should ask the following questions to herself: -can I make this guy sleep with me ? -can I...

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May 2, 2016

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Title	IOD examples for micro-calibration
Author	jocomoco
Upvotes	2
Comments	4
Date	May 2, 2016 9:10 AM UTC (10 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
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[–]TheXXL 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

If this doubt in her mind cannot be induced then there is no possibility in her mind for attraction. This is paramount.

This is not the only way for a girl to feel attracted.

I think this is why Mystery's micro-calibration (IOI/IOD) works.

I am not sure what you are talking about, it's been some time since i read about the mystery method, but if you mean the classic push and pull, there is much more material out there than you think.

The problem is that mastering IOD/IOI micro-calibration without plenty examples is difficult. Google does not give many examples. Could we collect examples in this thread ?

Yeah, i guess it's mysterys way of "being a mysterious guy", by making easy things into complicated "science". My best bet is still, push/pull, and like i say, you will find plenty of material on that.

[–]jocomoco[S] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Right, let me clarify what I mean: the problem with IODs is that they don't have a clear purpose.

I have a clear purpose: I want to make her ask herself "can I get this guy ?". The purpose is to install doubt in her mind.

Most of the IODs/push-pull stuff out there is not related to this purpose/goal, or it is not clear how they are related. The problem is that they can backfire (hurting the target too much and still not installing doubt in her mind).

The goal is to find examples that minimize the collateral damage (hurting the target, therefor she disliking me, because who likes assholes?, breaking connection, etc. - this is all collateral damage caused by NEGs) and at the same time installing doubt in her mind (which is needed for attraction - most of the time - because we need the thrill of doubt if we "want" to be attracted to something/someone).

[–]TheXXL 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Right, let me clarify what I mean: the problem with IODs is that they don't have a clear purpose

Maybe I don't get what you mean, but indicators of disinterest, have a clear purpose, they are there to convey disinterest.

I have a clear purpose: I want to make her ask herself "can I get this guy ?". The purpose is to install doubt in her mind.

Well, IOD`see can work in your favor, but that's the beauty of being human, not everyone gets triggered by them...

Most of the IODs/push-pull stuff out there is not related to this purpose/goal, or it is not clear how they are related.

If you aim for the exact thought you described, then you might have a problem, since there is no way to very that it worked.

The problem is that they can backfire (hurting the target too much and still not installing doubt in her mind).

Yes, that is true, and this is also a reason why negging is high risk /reward and probably only yields decent results if you have tons of practice with women, it's a matter of reading people, to know what they can take.

The goal is to find examples that minimize the collateral damage (hurting the target, therefor she disliking me, because who likes assholes?, breaking connection, etc. - this is all collateral damage caused by NEGs) and at the same time installing doubt in her mind (which is needed for attraction - most of the time - because we need the thrill of doubt if we "want" to be attracted to something/someone).

I don't know about you, but I have met many people in my life, and one thing I am sure about is the fact that no two people are the same. Yes I knew women who were so proud and "sturdy" I could pull out the hardest negs, and they started getting physical really hard. Then there are tons of political correct weak people who trip up anything I say, since I have a strong opinion and talk about it vocally, this happens often to me.

Long story short: negging is only usable if you gave plenty of knowledge about the overall character types of people, and you can identify them very fast. I would say I can do that pretty quick, so I calibrate my response accordingly, but I would not say that I intentionally neg girls, I just speak my mind, which happens to be... Let's say pretty hard stuff sometimes.

[–]jocomoco[S] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link