Hello guys, a beta orbiter here

6mysticbull · 2016-11-01T17:43:45+00:00

Stop talking to her. Case closed

Andreas-Lubitz · 2016-11-01T18:23:36+00:00

Any ideas of making me stop being a punkassbitch and do something about the situation?

You can't change overnight, it has a lot to do how you were raised, who were your role models and of course a father figure.

She would invite me over in the morning and believe me or not, choose not to change off her clothes and make it apparent that she has no bras and wears shorts where her asscheeks hang out.

This is one of the worse lost case I've ever read here. She literally has no drop of attraction to you. You are her platonic, asexual, gay best friend, you are her personal 'emotional tampon', her gossip mate, her punching bag. You might as well castrate yourself. She sees you as a non sexual threat so much that she walks around in her underwear, she knows you are as harmless as a butterfly. You are a pathetic excuse of a man, as if you deserve to be called one.

recyclablebanthas · 2016-11-01T19:13:22+00:00

I figured that you guys could give me a solid hit to the head with a hammer because I can't shake off this stupid one-itis off me.

No problem. But make no mistake here. This is about you. Not her. Take responsibility for your side of things or history will repeat itself and you'll be friendzoned again.

-There's a girl I have been crushing on and off for a year, I was friendzoned because she chose another guy instead of me

No. This is what I'm talking about. Don't lie to yourself about it being her fault. You're better than that.

You were friendzoned because you didn't make any moves. And possibly because it wasn't in the cards. But you'll never know because clearly you never made a move.

-We are pretty good friends in terms of trust and shit like that / she talks a lot to me and trusts me with more things than she trusts her boyfriend. Sometimes it even gets annoying how much attention she craves from me -

More lying to yourself. What's annoying is that you wanted to date her and settled for "friendship" because you felt more comfortable with this safer form of relationship. I guess it makes sense though. Less risky and prone to rejection.

But you don't really want to be friends. Or aren't ready to be friends with her yet.

She's a person who would never cheat on her boyfriend, yet she teases my xmas bells like there's no tomorrow. There's some kind of tension between us and we both know that.

No. You think that. And your frustration has reached the point where you're villainizing her rather than look at yourself. Look.....

You KNOW she wouldn't cheat on her BF. She seems to have good boundaries, so you know she's not crossing any lines. But you look for any straw you can grasp at to believe that something's going on.

She would invite me over in the morning and believe me or not, choose not to change off her clothes and make it apparent that she has no bras and wears shorts where her asscheeks hang out. She would pull pillows away from me and give me signals to hug her instead.

No man, you're playing yourself again. What you're seeing is the very predictable result of YOUR actions and the tone you've set. You didn't act. You were a puppy dog. YOU built a nice friendly relationship with her. One she feels safe in because she KNOWS you would never make moves on her.

You're like a gay friend to her. Of course she's not going to care that you see her braless.

I'm tired of the game we're playing here, where she tries to get me to escalate but when I do, she pushes me back.

You're. playing. yourself. by. yourself.

You created this sexless relationship and then complain about it.

Any ideas of making me stop being a punkassbitch and do something about the situation?

Get away from her. You need rehab. Time away from this girl.

Turlast · 2016-11-01T20:26:28+00:00

Most of us have been in this situation. It's hard. I think it'd be best if you not hang with her as much. That doesn't mean you need to stop talking to her altogether.

2016-11-01T18:25:52+00:00

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parmesan_sean · 2016-11-01T21:06:33+00:00

Man you really shouldn't think about yourself like that. You need counseling more than you need a gf.

MarukoM · 2016-11-02T00:55:41+00:00

Dude I've been in your same exact spot in the past and I know-I know it feels good thinking hey at least you have a cute girl that is willing to talk to you and call you right? When you see her name and picture light up your phone as she calls you, it makes you pretend for just a second that you're boyfriend and girlfriend right?

I know. I've been through it. In the end it sucks complete ass and just accept that she will not see you as anything more than her gay best friend.

I'm no fucking Casanova and I'm still improving my own game, but I've dated several girls who also have their own best "guy friend". And I ask her if he's dating anyone-no, if he's gay-no, then I try making it obvious to her that he likes her. But she simply refuses to believe it.

I attracted her by being myself, I know it sounds cliche but I mean it. Not putting up a fake asexual "nice guy" in hopes she won't immediately reject me. Not putting up a completely fake "asshole" who pretends to see her as less than me. I just make it obvious within the first few minutes I find her attractive, but I don't place her on a pedestal like some fucking princess. Instead I compliment her on things I like about her, but then tease her about it at the same time. If I have any thoughts in my head-especially about her-I just blurt it out and try not to filter myself. If I disagree with what she's saying-I tell her. If I think the way she's playing with her hair is weird-I mention it. Always with a flirty smile, cause I'm having fun as well.

Like I said, I'm far from being like most of these guys on here. But I'm improving and getting more comfortable with this game or whatever it's called.

TheOfficialLevent · 2016-11-04T07:15:52+00:00

MAN WHAT THE FUCK... you honestly made me so mad by calling yourself a "beta-orbiter." Your whole attitude on life is probably on some bullshit, like what the fuck you just going to accept that you suck and not move on, let any dominant "alpha" dictate your life. You aren't worthy of any girl bro. You need to work on yourself and improve yourself asap. Hit the gym. Start talking to other girls. Improve your sense of style. Groom yourself properly. Your attitude is engraved in your mind, "oh I'm just a beta, so it's okay." Grow the fuck up and be a man. That's why that girl is teasing you. Who knows in the future you might somehow get married, and your wife will tease you as she sleeps with other men. Do you want that, if so, keep doing the shit that you're doing. Girls want to be with a high value man, you don't have any value in yourself, and that's why she doesn't have any value in you. Pathetic. Grow up!

2016-11-01T18:31:34+00:00

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matteojoker10 · 2016-11-01T18:07:52+00:00

Haha I'm in the same situation. Try to tell het how you feel exactly and if she responds well then you're fine if no just walk away wtf do you care

yummbeary · 2016-11-06T08:42:35+00:00

No actionable advice here, I see only complaining.

She likes you a lot ok. She would fuck you, but only if you can arouse her a lot. She is waiting for you to escalate on her, like a man. Little example, last week, my friend was out with a girl. They got along really well and were holding hands. Then they had a moment and she said, I won't kiss you now. He just grabbed her and kissed her and she said, wow she really loved that.

She is just waiting for you to escalate. However, you need to be a savage. Then you can get her. This is how you do it.

Tease her next time she wants to hug you with a little push.

You: Oh no we can't do that, not that you fantasize of me again.

Her: What do you mean

Her: Oh i know you've been fantasizing about me.

Me: Lol stop bullshitting

You: Haha, I know you've been thinking about having my big cock in your mouth, hmmm, several times. 😁

Her: 😳

Then, she might give you signals to keep talking like that and grab her on her arm and let her go again until you grab her ass.

Or, she might stop escalation right there and then you can keep behaving as if nothing happened and leave her thinking about sucking your dick everyday. Women have crazy imagination. 😉 Then, keep being sexual and fun like that and "test-escalate" like a savage. At one point she cant stand it anymore, and love it.

Title	Hello guys, a beta orbiter here
Author	Ayu_
Upvotes	10
Comments	21
Date	November 1, 2016 5:37 PM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
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