Cannot close at all anymore... any tips/ideas?!

kalolilo · 2016-11-30T23:27:03+00:00

Seems like you have decent game, but not good enough to compensate for your average/somewhat not arousing looks. Hit the gym, dress more manly, work on your voice( deeper, more pauses)

Just a guess from what I can tell from your post.

As for your game, I think you are good in the fun and playfulness department, however, make much more use of qualification, more use of good push and pull and a bit more of alpha boss. 😉

hxcschizo · 2016-12-01T06:36:55+00:00

Messing around with appearance is always worth trying, but it's probably hard to make that call without pictures (personally I don't trust other men to make fashion calls, no offense to everyone else).

One thing I would consider is, do the women you're talking to think you're talking to them for any reason besides sex? Playfulness is probably the most important dynamic, but you always run the risk of trying to entertain her. Are girls showing their unique selves to you and are you appreciating it? If not, is it because you're forcing the conversation? You can be the funnest person in the world, but if a girl can't think of a reason why you'd be interested, then you still look desperate.

ThrowawayPUA · 2016-11-30T22:57:32+00:00

Lose the beard, see if that helps. You can always grow it back.

wirelezz · 2016-12-01T01:42:01+00:00

Trim your beard. No need to lose it if it looks good on you. Try different things. Start working out a bit.

Reminder: 4 years ago you were mid 16. Game at 15-16 isn't the same as in your 20s, so you want to re-learn (especially after being in a relationship).

The fact that you have no AA is great! I think you might have to take care more of your image.

Also remember that this is a learning process. You don't deal with AA, so next thing is escalating conversation. Next thing is escalating in kino. Next thing is kissing... etc.

Do not offer drinks. For them is really awkward in the sense that they feel obligated to do something back to you, like kissing. But also the fact that they say that is because they aren't nice at all.

Your standards are not too high. Just keep going and examine yourself and be honest to what you did wrong. It happens to all of us.

greenidiot314 · 2016-12-01T05:20:28+00:00

Once women are like 18-21 they want to get in the office and work more on their careers. They will never give a shit about a man. They won't cook, clean, probably turn lesbian or bill you for sex. So just get rich. If they wanted kids they would have already had them at 16 and not be attractive enough for you to want to ask them out.

monkeyman114 · 2016-12-01T05:33:37+00:00

Beards are so 1990s, ditch it. Unless you're in ISIS or the Taleban, its time to shave that skunk off your face. One girlfriend I had told me my goatee felt like she was making out with a wig, I shaved it, never got another one again, ever.

greenidiot314 · 2016-12-01T10:17:00+00:00

Have you tried disabled women? It's harder for them to walk away without any legs.

Title	Cannot close at all anymore... any tips/ideas?!
Author	afcwtf123
Upvotes	3
Comments	13
Date	November 30, 2016 10:50 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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