Is Daygame a myth?

rmbarnes · 2017-06-12T07:24:55+00:00

I think I've responded to one of your posts before, and it was along the same lines, of trying to work out if game is effective by asking questions about it, rather than trying. You have to try it. The game is played in the field.

In terms of daygame working, nearly every guy I know socially (as in guys I know from outside of work) has gotten laid through daygame, including myself.

I'm no expert on daygame. I used to do well online (but now I'm too old and have too high standards to make this work), and well in clubs. I always wanted to get good at daygame but only ever approached till I got a lay, then didn't do it again for a year, so I've never really built the skill up. To this end I am currently doing a 1000 approach challenge. It's been a really slow start. I started Jan, and have only done 110 approaches. No I haven't got laid yet. I have had strong AA and most of my approaches have sucked, or I've prematurely ejected.

You say you're introverted and mildly autistic. I'm certainly an introvert. Very strongly so. It's well known amongst work colleagues that I really don't like socialising. I've never been diagnosed with autism, but certainly have autistic traits, and scores on online tests imply I'm borderline autistic. Despite this I have learned how to game women. I find the thought of approaching girls at volume exhausting. I approached 7 girls yesterday in the street and found it stressful. It's something that needs doing to get the results though. I don't much like going to the gym or to work. I still do these things though as they are the ways to get things I want. Approaching is the same. One thing I will say is that once you start getting laid regularly, you'll start to enjoy approaching. This happened to me in bars and clubs. When I first started out and knew I'd be going out to approach on a Friday night, and I'd already be nervous at lunch time knowing this, and look for excuses not to go. By the time I was getting laid regularly you couldn't keep me away from the club. This is because your mind will start to associate going out to approach with getting laid. Once this happens you will enjoy it.

Not going to say daygame is easy. It's hard. Very hard. Most guys will never in their life approach a girl in the street, because doing so causes such strong AA. Even fewer guys will get laid from it. This is mainly because so few put consistent effort in. I think the rewards are worth it though. When you can approach any woman at any place and time, the whole world becomes your sexual playground.

As for this woman posting about daygame, ignore her. Yes some women out there will never go on a date with a guy who approached them on the street, but many will, so who cares? Women probably do prefer to meet guys through social circle, as it gives them a chance to observe the guy over a long period of time, and observe him interacting with other men so they can determine his place in the male hierarchy. Just because women prefer this doesn't mean you should!

As someone here who cannot meet women in bars, clubs, and cannot online date (a playground for elitism, when it comes to selecting men)

Daygame is also a 'playground for elitism'. Attractive women have sexual options. She will compare you to those options when you approach during the daytime. Game is learning how to present yourself as a good social option. Become the elite.

You need to take action, not second guess whether this works or not. If I were you I would:

Drop the defeatism. You seem to be getting defeated but only in your own mind.
Commit to doing x approaches (where x is a high number, I chose 1000) within a set time period (at least many months). You can re-evaluate after doing the approaches, you'll then have real world experiences to guide your thoughts, not guesswork.
Find a daygamer online whose material you like and study it. Given your personality type, like me I think you'd benefit from something that's fairly systemised. I like both Tom Torero and KrauserPUA. They both use the same system (the London daygame model). Krauser goes into a lot of deep theory and isn't so active these days, Torero is very active and gives lots of practical advice.
You may want to at some point get a daygame coach. They will be good at pushing you into approaches in the early days, and spotting your mistakes as you progress. People who have done 1000 approaches and only got laid once (they are a minority but like you said they exist!) have probably never got good feedback on what they were doing, or haven't actioned it if they have. You have to learn and get better over time. These people have made the same mistakes in set 1000 as they did in set 1. Don't do this!

You have to know that you have nothing to lose by doing this. Even if you were to do 1000 approaches and see very few results, you'll be no worse off than you are now.

HighlanderShane · 2017-06-12T05:04:56+00:00

You can meet women in bars and online, you're just not great at it yet. Don't tell yourself it's for "elitism". You're giving yourself excuses to not even pursue it. I know both guys and women that are worse looking and have less going on than you, who do just fine online. You should re-evaluate that thought process.

Day game isn't a myth, since plenty of guys including myself have had success approaching women during the day. If it were a myth, that obviously wouldn't happen.

If a woman says she got creeped out by a guy that approached her during the day, it's because that guy is either creepy or was so nervous that he crumbled under the pressure. Are there guys that can't meet women during the day? Sure, and I'd guarantee they can't meet women online or in bars either.

Trust me, it benefits me to convince you to not even try. Less competition. However, I'm not going to lie to you. You are plenty capable.

DrVyrus · 2017-06-12T10:02:02+00:00

No, day game is not a myth, its just different. Think of it this way, why do you go out during the day? To get shit done, right? That's what women are out doing, getting life shit done. If someone approached you, and started hitting on you while you were focused on the laundry list of things you had to do that day, would you be receptive to it? Keep in mind this is occuring when you know you are going out with the girls later that evening. No, no you are not.

Time is the main boundry in day game. Men who try and practice day game get hung up on this. Day game is fast, and structured. You have 15 seconds to capture that woman's attention from the billion things she has to do that day. Looks make this much easier, and I think that's what the woman was trying to say in her own crude way. Beause looking suave captures attention. But this is also why old PUAs used to argue peacocking was key. Despite them looking goofy (lets not even begin to discuss Mystery) they caught people's eye.

My advice, work out, practice some canned lines, eat well, read a lot, and get your mood right. Best day game I ever had, I opened with talking about food at the cafe at my school. Did not know the girl, but ended up hooking up after she saw me at the bar that same evening night. I am 5' 7" blonde haired and blue eyed, average looking dude with a big nose. Trust me, I'm not tall dark and handsome.

nefosjb · 2017-06-12T05:38:12+00:00

i'm wondering about same thing just like you , lot of people here seems to really support daygame.

They say like you can get any girl you want by doing daygame if you are good at it and it follows up with some PUA, RSD advice on how to let go and be a man and you will have real connection with woman in no time .

As a community we have to realize all these people posting infield videos and guides here they are doing business and the goal is making money it doesn't matter for them whether you find your love or not RSD or any PUA companies they are all business companies a lot of people completely forget this , people think they are some gurus that is here to help us in reality they don't give a shit.

Most people form a real relationship ,connection through mutual friends and social events/circles. I'm not saying daygame is myth it could work but actually creating real connection with someone only through daygame takes some serious luck and hundreds of approach.

(i don't know about you guys but to me someone doing hundreds of approach trying to talk to strangers everyday just feels like really desperate creep to me , not to mention this act of desperation proves you are loser)

makes you think is it really worth it ?

marthdotsk · 2017-06-12T14:38:11+00:00

What you quoted was the opinion of one individual. One individual does not realistically speak for an entire gender. Given the overall tone of that quote, it's safe to say it wasn't done from a good place either.

Daygame is entirely possible. Don't expect a woman to give you good tips on dating women. That ain't gonna happen.

Title	Is Daygame a myth?
Author	Aeon199
Upvotes	1
Comments	13
Date	June 12, 2017 4:56 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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