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What does TRP think about love?

GermanG6

October 22, 2014
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Title What does TRP think about love?
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GermanG6

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Date October 22, 2014 9:05 PM UTC
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What does TRP think about romantic love?

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October 22, 2014
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[–]Goldfulgore11 points12 points13 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Men are taught to perceive love differently than a woman does. And men typically have false expectations about a woman's love. I'll quote the "Rational Male", which said:

"Women are utterly incapable of loving a man in the way that a man expects to be loved."

and

"Women are incapable of loving men in a way that a man idealizes is possible, in a way he thinks she should be capable of."

Read TRP side bar

[–]ProjectShamrock5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This is the best response in the thread. Women love in a way that is different than men, and neither is unconditional.

I would argue that love for your offspring can be unconditional.

[–]through_a_ways1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Let's not kid ourselves though, mens' love is far more "unconditional" than womens', as there are far fewer "conditions".

You love your offspring unconditionally because they're the most genetically close people to you in your life other than your parents and siblings, and unlike the former two, still need to reproduce.

[–]LeggyBlueEyes0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I see this question come up often. I've read users say women can unconditionally love their children, but men won't because they can never be 100% certain the child is theirs the way a woman can.

That being said, if a woman can love her children unconditionally, why would she be unable to translate that to a man? I love my SO even when he does things that don't make me happy, etc. When we separated I did not run out to find the next guy even though he dated other women.

How can a man love a woman unconditionally if he isn't able to love his children unconditionally?

[–]vengefully_yours11 points12 points13 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When I walk out my door in the morning, and I see her glistening in the sunlight, her curves catching the light, beckoning me to her. I walk to her, run my hand down her side, grasp firmly, open the door and sit in the bucket seat then twist the key and fire up the 455 in my GTO.

That's love.

Looking at my husky as she cuddles next to me on the couch, my lab curled at my feet.

That's love.

People don't deserve that feeling.

[–]tombreck2 40 points41 points42 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Love is the feeling you get when you don't think you can do any better

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn, I love that description!

[–]GermanG6[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Do you mean you feel love once you get the best mate you can?

[–]moiez3265 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

when you THINK you got the best you can.

[–]nesshie9110 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Its just chemical reactions in the brain.

[–]GenericallyEpic2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

dopamine and serotonin

[–]TheRealMewt2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What is love? Baby don't hurt me. Don't hurt me. No mo'.

Surprisingly fitting to TRP if you ask me.

[–]caliboo1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

And here I thought I was gonna be original but noooo.

[–]LS_D2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

I think there are different types of "love" and the way western society tends to focus on 'erotic' "love"

Even though they understand there's a difference between 'erotic' love and say the "love" you have for your mother and the "love" you have for your dog or your gf! there is no clear distinction made and I can't ever recall having anyone try and teach me this, which caused me some minor mindfuck until I found the Greek understanding of "love"

Shit people say "I love" this and "I love" that, all day long ,, yet when it comes to "romantic love" then you are supposed to know what the difference about the 'types' of "loving" IMO this is an area where TRP falls short in understanding

I like the way the Greeks think about it and I am inclined to 'separate' the way I "love" the way they do.

  • Agápe (ἀγάπη agápē means "love: esp. brotherly love, charity; the love of God for man and of man for God." Agape is used in the biblical passage known as the "love chapter," 1 Corinthians 13, and is described there and throughout the New Testament as brotherly love, affection, good will, love, and benevolence. Whether the love given is returned or not, the person continues to love (even without any self-benefit). Agape is also used in ancient texts to denote feelings for one's children and the feelings for a spouse, and it was also used to refer to a love feast. It can also be described as the feeling of being content or holding one in high regard. Agape is used by Christians to express the unconditional love of God for his children. This type of love was further explained by Thomas Aquinas as "to will the good of another."

  • Éros (ἔρως érōs) means "love, mostly of the sexual passion." The Modern Greek word "erotas" means "intimate love." It can also apply to dating relationships as well as marriage. Plato refined his own definition: Although eros is initially felt for a person, with contemplation it becomes an appreciation of the beauty within that person, or even becomes appreciation of beauty itself. Plato does not talk of physical attraction as a necessary part of love, hence the use of the word platonic to mean, "without physical attraction." In the Symposium, the most famous ancient work on the subject, Plato has Socrates argue that eros helps the soul recall knowledge of beauty, and contributes to an understanding of spiritual truth, the ideal "Form" of youthful beauty that leads us humans to feel erotic desire – thus suggesting that even that sensually based love aspires to the non-corporeal, spiritual plane of existence; that is, finding its truth, just like finding any truth, leads to transcendence. Lovers and philosophers are all inspired to seek truth through the means of eros.

  • Philia (φιλία philía) means "affectionate regard, friendship," usually "between equals." It is a dispassionate virtuous love, a concept developed by Aristotle. In his best-known work on ethics, Nicomachean Ethics, philia is expressed variously as loyalty to friends, family, and community, and requires virtue, equality, and familiarity. Furthermore, in the same text philos denotes a general type of love, used for love between family, between friends, a desire or enjoyment of an activity, as well as between lovers.

  • Storge (στοργή storgē) means "love, affection" and "especially of parents and children" It is natural affection, like that felt by parents for offspring. Rarely used in ancient works, and then almost exclusively as a descriptor of relationships within the family. It is also known to express mere acceptance or putting up with situations, as in "loving" the tyrant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_words_for_love

[–]autowikibot0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Greek words for love:


The Greek language distinguishes at least four different ways as to how the word love is used. Ancient Greek has four distinct words for love: agápe, éros, philía, and storgē. However, as with other languages, it has been historically difficult to separate the meanings of these words when used outside of their respective contexts. Nonetheless, the senses in which these words were generally used are as follows:

  • Agápe (ἀγάπη agápē ) means "love: esp. brotherly love, charity; the love of God for man and of man for God." Agape is used in the biblical passage known as the "love chapter," 1 Corinthians 13, and is described there and throughout the New Testament as brotherly love, affection, good will, love, and benevolence. Whether the love given is returned or not, the person continues to love (even without any self-benefit). Agape is also used in ancient texts to denote feelings for one's children and the feelings for a spouse, and it was also used to refer to a love feast. It can also be described as the feeling of being content or holding one in high regard. Agape is used by Christians to express the unconditional love of God for his children. This type of love was further explained by Thomas Aquinas as "to will the good of another."

  • Éros (ἔρως érōs) means "love, mostly of the sexual passion." The Modern Greek word "erotas" means "intimate love." It can also apply to dating relationships as well as marriage. Plato refined his own definition: Although eros is initially felt for a person, with contemplation it becomes an appreciation of the beauty within that person, or even becomes appreciation of beauty itself. Plato does not talk of physical attraction as a necessary part of love, hence the use of the word platonic to mean, "without physical attraction." In the Symposium, the most famous ancient work on the subject, Plato has Socrates argue that eros helps the soul recall knowledge of beauty, and contributes to an understanding of spiritual truth, the ideal "Form" of youthful beauty that leads us humans to feel erotic desire – thus suggesting that even that sensually based love aspires to the non-corporeal, spiritual plane of existence; that is, finding its truth, just like finding any truth, leads to transcendence. Lovers and philosophers are all inspired to seek truth through the means of eros.

  • Philia (φιλία philía) means "affectionate regard, friendship," usually "between equals." It is a dispassionate virtuous love, a concept developed by Aristotle. In his best-known work on ethics, Nicomachean Ethics, philia is expressed variously as loyalty to friends, family, and community, and requires virtue, equality, and familiarity. Furthermore, in the same text philos denotes a general type of love, used for love between family, between friends, a desire or enjoyment of an activity, as well as between lovers.

  • Storge (στοργή storgē) means "love, affection" and "especially of parents and children" It is natural affection, like that felt by parents for offspring. Rarely used in ancient works, and then almost exclusively as a descriptor of relationships within the family. It is also known to express mere acceptance or putting up with situations, as in "loving" the tyrant.

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[–][deleted] 7 points7 points7 points 11 years ago | Copy Link

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[–]mrbluesky2111 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You really think women are incapable of love?

[–]chippin_out0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

where can i find the trp rules?

[–]rpkarma0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Read the sidebar, hang around here and affiliated subreddits, listen and learn.

[–]dencrypt1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I will quote Seven of Nine: "An attraction based on sexual desire, one that facilitates procreation."

"Physiologically, it bears a striking similarity to disease. A series of biochemical responses that trigger an emotional cascade, impairing normal functioning."

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I love beer.

[–]1oldredder1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

define love:

women have an emotive feeling & a lot of self-contradiction. They're willing to call this love.

Men have a strong desire to make an entire situation better on top of self-improvement, wanting a relationship to improve, himself and his woman, will invest time & trust and hope for children to raise with his strong moral values and skills.

How do you define love? TRP isn't about love, it's about sexual strategy here in this /r

[–]asd1100 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's a intentionally vague umbrella term ment to coerce people into sticking with a sociatal script. Think respect in asian contries. Or honor in a lot of patriarcal societies.

Without the notion of love you can still feel affection, dedication and attachement, but those have almost nothing to do with the cultural notion that has been inflated to include both male and female affection, controlable lust, long term dedication, respect and a particularly nasty and self destructive kind of "honor".

Feel the emotion, do not associate it with any constructs, because that only comes with expectations and a "appropriate" conduct that is meant to enslave you.

[–]stealthcreeper 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Romantic Love = illusion

Unconditional Love = real (its also what makes up everything you see)

Unconditional Love Capabilities:

Man<Women<Children<Animals

[–]jacks_not_surprised3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oneitis?

[–]CalvinHobb3s0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

love complex, abstract, subjective idea we came up with to try and explain the even more complex chemical reaction we get from interacting with others.

[–]CptDefB0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What the shit, TRP...

Y'all mother fuckers need you some Esther.

OP: Love, explained.

[–]knechtigerknecht10 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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