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Why does holding frame work?

AllOrDeath

November 4, 2014
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Title Why does holding frame work?
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AllOrDeath

Upvotes 1
Comments 4
Date November 4, 2014 7:01 AM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/askTRP
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/2l8p47/why_does_holding_frame_work/
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[–]Azothlike2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Holding frame works because it is the opposite of Catering To Women.

Most men have at least an inkling of an idea as to what women like. For women, however, a guy knowing what women like and pretending to be that is not enough. Women want a guy that is naturally what women like, a guy that will be what women like tomorrow as well, not just until he's done faking it.

That is the purpose of a shit test; to rattle you, or test you, and make sure that you are of reasonable, consistent quality.

Holding Frame says I am this way regardless of who you are, what you do, or what you want.

When you combine Attractive Qualities + Frame Stability, you achieve what women want, which is, the perception of a naturally attractive man. Even if holding frame is to you, in of itself, an unnatural and learned technique.

The good part about holding frame, though, and the good part about acquiring Sexual Market Place success via imitation, is that these steps lead to the confidence and experience that manufactures the qualities you were imitating. Eventually, you don't have to silently reprimand yourself(in the levels of master, this is Conscious Mastery) to maintain frame, and instead, you will subconsciously know that holding frame is the correct thing to do, and do it out of habit(this is the level above conscious master, subconscious mastery.) This is the difference between someone that cuts a perfect carpentry piece by paying close attention, and someone that cuts a perfect carpentry piece by habit and instinct because he's done it so much that it's second nature.

TL;DR - Holding frame works because it convinces women that your desirable traits are authentic and permanent.

[–]tombreck2 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This. She shit tests you to see how you handle incoming fire under pressure

[–]deptii0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There are many articles on frame to be found in the sidebar on /r/theredpill. Suffice to say that it's been phrased many different ways.

My own version is that frame is short for "frame of mind". It's your own way of looking at the world and the people in it. Especially important is that you are the most important aspect. You know what you want and you're not afraid or ashamed to pursue it. Finally, it's important to stay in your own frame, and bring others into it, instead of straying into theirs.

[–]kingofpoplives0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Frame is about subconscious assumptions. A strong frame would be composed of positive thoughts like "I'm a cool guy", "my SMV is high", "I'm in charge of this relationship", "other women want to be with me", etc.

Strong frame is a sort of mind control. As long as your frame is stronger than hers, she will be sucked into accepting the positive assumptions that make up your frame.

If your frame is broken, then negative thoughts like "I'm not good enough for her" will enter into your mind and hers, and the situation will deteriorate from there.

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