Why clubs and bars are a bad place to meet women! (Hint: Your failure is part of the business model!)

cateater · 2018-06-07T10:21:28+00:00

How exactly are the nightclub owners preventing your success with women?

Vibez__ · 2018-06-07T13:42:31+00:00

There are definite cons to nightclubs but also pros. In a nightclub, any girl is fair game, and if they say they have a boyfriend then you know it's definitely on at that point. Girls don't go to nightclubs to hang out, they want to get fucked right in the pussy cause they're dirty sloots.

In comparison to daygame, there will be many women you approach that will genuinely be in relationships, so the concentration of single, slutty women in daygame is far lower than that in a nightclub.

To immediately counteract your argument: go out solo, and don't drink; which instantly lowers your spending and also highly increases your logistics due to you being able to drive a girl back to your place without having to pay for a cab, nor wait around for one whilst the girl ditches you.

Sure, you'll still need to pay for club entry, petrol getting to the club, possibly food if you get peckish but it'll be much cheaper. It'll also be much more difficult getting into a good state if you don't drink, but it's like anything: practise.

recyclablebanthas · 2018-06-07T14:04:25+00:00

1

We are being (ab)used to generate tons of money for the rich nightclub owners/nightclub industry.

Starting off with your conclusion, without explaining how you arrived at it, is going to undercut your whole argument.

Like it or not, a lot of people are going to be tuning out, from the moment they read your title.

I kept reading, though.

2

The business model of most clubs and bars is to show you a lot of hot women, to show you a lot of easy sex, but not actually letting you have it.

I know the owners of a few clubs and bars, including several employees.

Their "business model," is not to "show a lot of hot women and a lot of easy sex, without letting guys have it."

Their business model is to make money off of cover and drinks. They often give girls discounts because they know if they get the girls, guys will come. That's also why there's a ladies' night.

3

So that you buy some more (expensive) drinks to impress the ladies, fit in etc.,

Buying drinks for ladies is one of the easiest ways to blow yourself out of a set.

This premise is already flawed because it's not common wisdom in "seduction," to buy drinks.

4

it is extremely loud and hard to start a conversation

This highlights your ignorance of how a nightclub works.

Clubs are built around non-verbal interactions. Things like eye contact, facial expressions, gestures, dancing, etc., are powerful there. Trying to start a conversation in a club is one of the easiest ways for newbs to screw themselves.

You get somewhere by first plugging into the specific fun of the club. RSD Tyler talks about this in detail.

If you go around a club trying to "start a conversation," and you're not even trying to join in the fun of the place, then you're doing the equivalent of going to a LAN party without a computer and walking around to guys in the middle of a match and trying to get them to engage you in conversation.

5

women are put on a pedestal like nowhere else (tend to get in for free,

Nothing about girls getting in free puts them on a pedestal for you. Your choice to do that is why they end up on a pedestal. Clubs letting them in free or for cheaper doesn't stop you from getting laid.

Poor attitude leads to you not getting laid.

6

will usually get drinks bought by guys)

This doesn't bar you from getting laid.

In fact, I find it amusing with other guys buy a girl I'm working on, a drink. Sometimes she'll share one with me if she ends up with two, so they're really buying me a drink.

7

rejecting men becomes a game/competition

This isn't how people work. This is your negative self-talk warping your view of reality.

In reality, women don't reject men for fun, anymore than guys reject women for fun.

Women reject guys when they're not interested and/or the guys are awkward.

8

too many distractions, it's hard to keep her focused on you

It's a chaotic environment of fun and only an insecure person would require her to be completely focused on himself when so many things are going on.

If she's interested, she'll keep coming back to you. If you're fucking yourself, then she won't be interested and you won't keep her attention.

9

Nightclubs and bars are the worst places to meet women. It is part of the business model, that you don't get laid.

And yet, they're one of my favorite places, at least for flings.

It's your attitude or ignorance of how social interactions work in a club, that leads to you not getting laid.

masterduelistky · 2018-06-07T23:54:35+00:00

I don't think it's nearly as bad as what's written here, but I mean there is obviously nothing stopping you from getting what you want. Whether that is sleeping with girls or just going out dancing. Even though I've been fucked up recently after losing my ex-girlfriend and going to clubs, the only reason I really didn't go home with any of them was my own fault. There are definitely opportunities if you go out having fun in general and people see that.

cateater · 2018-06-07T12:47:31+00:00

[permanently deleted]

Title	Why clubs and bars are a bad place to meet women! (Hint: Your failure is part of the business model!)
Author	[deleted]
Upvotes	0
Comments	12
Date	June 7, 2018 9:57 AM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/8p921n/why_clubs_and_bars_are_a_bad_place_to_meet_women/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/seduction/why-clubs-and-bars-are-a-bad-place-to-meet-women.1447872 https://theredarchive.com/post/1447872

Comments