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[–]greenlittleman 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
In 90% cases he just don't meet enough girls and almost never attempted to fuck any. Most guys are late virgins because they don't have social circle with a lot of girls in it.
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[–]welshwelsh 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I disagree, most people who don't get laid simply don't come into contact with the opposite sex very often.
It wasn't until I was 24 that I talked to a girl my age for the first time in my life (in a social context). Lost my v-card to the same girl. There just weren't any girls in my social circles growing up.
[–]greenlittleman 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
If you don't have social circle or there only men in it then there is no way you could get laid. If you never try to fuck any woman then it is almost impossible to get any, unless you are fine with fucking fat girls who approach you first. Of course in theory if you are top 5% in looks then some decent woman could take initiative to approach you, but she wouldn't fuck you herself and would expect you take action eventually. Most guys who end up late virgins just not social. Even ugly guys could get laid in their late teens/early twenties if they are in broad social circle and can hold decent conversations.
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[–]greenlittleman 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You saying it as if it is something bad. And btw, most people don't choose their social circle at all, they just take what is available to them in 90% cases.
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[–]greenlittleman 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Most guys have problem with getting sex mostly because of your A). When you understand what you could be happy without sex then you become someone who could get it effortlessly.
There is no need to wish me luck, because I'm on this sub not to get any advices - I already have results vastly above average guy.
[–]Aeon199 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Here you say it's social circle.
In your posts to me, you say it's more about approaching.
What do you believe man?
[–]Amcolex 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Get rid of tinder. Really.
Tinder is great if you have great profile pictures, and even then I find the overall quality you’ll match on tinder is a step lower than what you can actually get in real life. And if you dont already already know your true value, it can really give you a false impression of yourself.
Instead, go out in the real world and approach girls there. Either during the day or night or both. If you’re knew to it, and have trouble doing it by yourself, surround yourself with like minded people with the same goals. (Certain Facebook groups are great for finding local wingmen).
And I second the recommendation of Models by mark Manson.
Exactly. Anxious guys who can't even talk to girls normally go to Tinder and surprise - no one needs them. So they assume what it is impossible for them to get any girls at all. But the problem is even a guy who is naturally attractive and charismatic will suck online unless he is really good looking.
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Tinder is fucked. I'm blonde, blue eyes, 6 foot 2 roughly. Someone told me yesterday I'm a solid 7. So I must land quite a lot of 7's myself right?
No, it's the same for me as it is for you. Pretty much matching with girls who I wouldn't sleep with even if they paid me. It's frankly insulting that a fat 30yo mother of 2 has near infinite choice. As you said, you(we) aren't some absolute loser, so what is the problem?
OkCupid did a study a few years ago which they actually deleted since because it basically proved for the average guy that there's no point trying online. The results said that most girls rated most guys as 'below average'. Yet basic maths and logic says that's impossible, as only half can be below average and you'd think most would actually be about average. So it seems they only register super-attractiveness, like the model guys. The Chad's, if you will.
I firmly believe there's no such thing as online game, you can put huge effort into what you write and get nowhere, or you can just be attractive and practically give 1 word answers and the girl will be inviting herself over.
I've mixed up my photos, used pictures of me in various social and leader situations, one with a girl 10 years younger than me and super hot, all the stuff that every advice says, basically show you have a life, and social proof / 'hot girls talk to me' proof. None of it matters. I got more matches, but I wouldn't rate many of them above a 5. I hate rating girls by numbers by the way but it illustrates my points.
So basically the moral of the story is most guys can't win at it, you just have to do real life game. As hard as it is, we have to grind it out.
[–]Aeon199 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
So don't believe the 5'9" autistic guy with no job, who gets decent women on Tinder? (Not me, but others I've talked to.)
Maybe it's your location. That's quite ridiculous, rarely ever seen anyone else claim it's that tough on here.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't know what to believe any more. Some people don't tick any 'boxes' and are just naturals somehow who were born a player and their lack of job or anything going for them doesn't seem to matter, other people like me get almost nowhere despite putting in as much self improvement and gym time as we can handle doing, and still spend our lives anxious about how we're going to meet anyone at all. I hear stuff from other guys I've met like 'you're a good looking guy, you should be able to pick up hot 18 year olds right?'. This exact phrase came from a guy who I went out with a few days ago who slept with 30 girls from cold approach in 1 year. He had a really messed up mouth of teeth at weird angles, so looks really don't matter much or help if he's telling the truth.
I am not blaming the location, it's Melbourne, Australia which is quite diverse and large with a near infinite pool of girls. I think it's a bit cliquey (most people associate with the groups in their suburb / that they went to school with, and I didn't because I moved here a few years ago), but if the girls are on tinder at all then they're presumably going for some guys on there. No, the problem is just me. I can't blame the town, nobody can unless it's a small town with like 100 girls there.
I've started RSDMax's Fearless program to get rid of AA. It's just so hard to approach for me. I almost literally shit myself - my body is shaking and I can only stutter out something that barely makes sense, and on the few occasions I've actually done it the girls have visibly just pitied me or wondered what's wrong with me. I'm only realising now the issues I have due to the sort of person my mother was when I was younger. Volatile - nice and supportive sometimes, then angry flipping out over nothing. I learned to just shut up, say nothing unless I absolutely had to, and be a good boy. Surprisingly (not), if you spend the first 15 years of your life barely speaking, you aren't that great holding a conversation with anyone, let alone the gender you're terrified of.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Stop using tinder. Work out. Practice spontaneously talking to strangers (women AND men). Everyone responds well to confidence. You're gonna suck for a while. Prolly, shame yourself on a number of occasions. But you'll get better. Then you'll get good. GLHF homie.
[–]Prestige333 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Read Mark Manson Models, it answers all your questions
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