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I don't know what to do

swallowthisthrowaway

April 27, 2014
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Title I don't know what to do
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swallowthisthrowaway

Upvotes 7
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Date April 27, 2014 4:36 PM UTC
(12 years ago)
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[–]Teknodruid8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

No.

If you see a girl on the street and automatically think "She's too hot for me" you are in the wrong place little bro.

You need to flip that thinking and know that she is not good enough for you - but you could teach her to be.

18 is awkward... but you are defeating yourself before you ever get in the game with that thinking.

[–]swallowthisthrowaway[S] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

So when I see a hot chick I assume she would be lucky to get me, and keep walking. Is that it?

[–]Senior ContributorSkorchZang8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

No, but you could look her in the eyes with a shit-eating grin, while thinking to yourself "ok, how can I fuck with this chick's mind & bullshit expectations tonight?"

When you're coming from a place like that internally, the women sense it and want you. Great, so now let's say you understood exactly what you need and you're ready to get there- problem is, it won't happen by just you deciding that's how it's going to be from now on.

You've got years of shit habits to overwrite with new awesome ones. What you really, really need are role models to watch, how they pick up women. In person would obviously be the best, but even videos will help you a fuck of a lot to get your ass in the game. Monkey see, monkey do, let that be your new motto dude! Resolve to see it, and then to do what you saw, over and over.

[–]Teknodruid1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This. Bravo.

[–]swallowthisthrowaway[S] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Practice makes perfect. Thanks man

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Or talk to her if you feel like it.

[–]apackofwankers1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Ask women what their passion in life is - keep a notebook where you record their answers (for your amusement, you could do this in front of them).

Think of yourself as interviewing them for a job; you want someone who is passionate about at least something, right? Something other than themselves would be good.

After you have interviewed enough women, you will see that few have any passions of note - that they are largely empty shells.

Then, when you see a hot girl, initially think of a Mercedes or a Ferrari without an engine or interior - just a good looking shell. Your job is to peek in the windows and see if there is anything inside that is of value.

[–]1TVTestPattern8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Relax young man... nobody is saying you can't have mad pussy everyday. You just can't have it right now.

We all know you want that right freakin now, believe me.

And you will, you just have some work to do first.

So take the advice you are getting here seriously, and get to work.

Lift, Learn, & Love.

  • Be fit & look attractive.
  • Learn stuff and be interesting.
  • Love your life for what it offers you.

Do these things... oh and get a club to fend off the women. Takes time... which you have... trade some of your time for being as excellent as possible.

Most of all, like I already mentioned, relax.

You're lack of chill is guaranteed to dry panties around the world.

Have you ever taught a dog to fetch?

At first they don't get it. The dog mistakenly thinks it's a game of keep away, and won't play ball. How do we get dogs to play fetch? We ignore irrelevant behaviours and praise good behaviours. Over & over till they eventually "forget" the whole "keep away" thing. The dog is buying into your frame, and that's to play fetch.

Same thing with girls... you ignore anything that isn't in your frame & encourage behaviours which are in frame. With repetition these girls will respond to your push/pull and move into your frame.

As an analogy:

I was teaching my dog fetch last year. He finally understood to come to me after retrieving the ball, but still was in "keep away" mode. Walking up to me, then turning his head away when I go to grab the ball. When this happens he is trying to assert his frame on me. (I want to play keep away) When he did that, I completely ignore him and move on to some other activity I want to do without him... no more playtime for him.

Rinse and repeat.

Pretty soon he's dropping the ball at my feet and whining to play.

Same thing girls do... Bats eyelashes, bedroom eyes, flash of smile... then BAM, NO, you can't have this! (Keep away)

Do not punish this behaviour... Move on and make sure she sees you having fun without her.

She comes back (she really wants to play) and plays keep away again.

Repeat.

And again...

If she has any assets, she already knows you and every other swinging dick she meets wants her. That's not the thing.

If you ever let a woman, (or your dog), know they get under your skin you are done guy. Stop rewarding girls for playing keep away, with your emotional reactions... they feed on that shit like vampires.

Until these girls perceive you as a quality, outcome independent guy you will continue to struggle with them.

It's all really just repetition.

How do you learn to lift? Repetition.

To play music? Repetition.

To make money? Repetition.

Social skills? Repetition.

Being awesome is mostly just a trick of forced perspective. It seems awesome to those who didn't see how you got there.

I'm a pretty awesome flute/sax player. People listen and often remark, "Wow that's great, you are so talented."

Ummm, not really.

It sounds like talent to them because they have no clue how somebody does it. My mom however, could talk about the years and years of practice while I sucked ass... talent? Pfft... Unless by talent you mean thousands of hours practicing.

We have a rule of thumb among professional performers. About the time you are sick of something you have been practicing, it's about ready for the public.

Understand?

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Great advice and so true about musical skills. Girls think music is a special gift and love is magical.

[–]1TVTestPattern5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Pfft... and everything else.

What's worse is they are not alone. Millions of Betas out there who are essentially the same way. Or even worse, the Pseudos who get skilled at something, (I'm lookin at you doctors, lawyers and athletes etc...), and just assume mastery of everything else. I can't begin to estimate the amount of money I have made professionally fixing problems caused by some smart guy who's good at his job, so thinks he's good with computers. (Actually thank god for these guys).

When I want mastery over some activity or thing, I glom on to people I find who are already displaying mastery of the subject and learn from them.

Blows me away a bit that so many people don't seem to understand what to me seems painfully obvious. I mean the barrier to entry is repetition... I don't think the bar can go any lower.

I am thankful for their ignorance though... bless their sweet little hearts.

[–]laere2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yea I tend to learn from others who have mastered things too. This guy at my moms work is like 22 and has his own house, paid for his car in cash, etc. And he's just a typical maintenance worker. She told me he invests, so I'm meeting up with him on how he's mad ass tons of cash.

[–]swallowthisthrowaway[S] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Thank you so much man. That analogy was awesome.

[–]1TVTestPattern3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You're welcome.

Try not to beat yourself up too much... just enough to keep striving for more. You are going to have many girlfriends throughout your life. There will be dry spells, and heartache... guilt and pleasure... surprises and disappointments... years of sweet, sweet time in front of you.

Believe me when I tell you that us older guys would kill to have your problems... absent the BP conditioning.

But you sir have discovered your masculinity early... and that can mean "game on" for you.

You glorious bastard.

[–]swallowthisthrowaway[S] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you kind sir.

[–]Dudeduder0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So let's say my gf is playing keep away at night by saying she is too tired to bang. What could I do at night to show her I'm having fun without her?

[–]1TVTestPattern0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Jerk off... right in front of her.

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire215 points16 points17 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

"I need sexual female contact."

No, actually, you don't. Your BODY desires it, craves it, wants it, etc. Why? To reproduce! This is all an evolutionary adaptation to increase the likelihood of reproduction. Your body literally floods you with drugs to coerce you into reproducing.

But guess what. You don't have money to support a wife and child.

If you actually had sexual contact with a girl, you run the risk of knocking her up, or getting a VD.

I'm just trying to put things into perspective for you.

While you are pining for the hot girls, they are going to the all you can eat buffet of dating whoever asks them out: guys ranging from their age to forties and fifties with money, celebrities, whoever has something to offer them. This doesn't meant you can't get a girlfriend, it just means you face stiff competition for the more attractive women.

Anyway, getting depressed about it is a waste of time. The only way you have a chance is if you focus ALL your energy on self-improvement: lift, learn, and find ways to make money ASAP, preferably without becoming a collegiate debt-slave.

Edit: Also, if you don't like how your "friend" are treating you; spend more time alone and work on self-improvement. Go out and meet new people. Life's too short to waste on people who try to drag you down with their bullshit.

[–]harkrank 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

For a guy that is OPs age it's all about game, game, game. Lifting and getting money won't help him much. And I have to say your advice to ignore sex and female contact is plain wrong. If he stays without these things until he reaches the age where he is sexually attractive to women he will have a high risk of permanent mental damage.

OP at your age attitude and social status is everything. You seem to have the attitude thing going in the right direction. The problem now is probably social status. Your friends are losers and they are dragging you down. Their friendship is worth nothing, they are snakes. Downgrade them to acquaintances at most. They will do their best to destroy any game or sexual value you build up.

It's fucking hard at your age, but try to be your own man as much as you can. And be sure to always go to the parties with the sluts, get moderately drunk. Follow advice here and you will be OK.

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire21 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It depends on what his objective is. When I was his age, I thought it was "game" too. But what does game get you? Drunken trysts with sluts that will fuck whoever panders to them the best.

Your advice is go to parties with sluts and get moderately drunk. Sorry, but that's terrible advice. First of all, you don't need to be drunk to pick up women; drunkeness works against you. The only reason people drink is because they are insecure and untrained in proper socialization. Nobody gives two shits about men his age; everywhere you go, it's rat trap after rat trap. The bars are rat traps. "Parties" where everyone acts like a drunken idiot are rat-traps.

I never said he should "ignore" sex and "female contact," I said he should work on himself so he can get ahead, and then be in a power position. Chasing short-term gratification does not lead to being in a power position. If you work on yourself, you become better, and you attract women without effort, which then makes you more attractive to the women you approach. Drunkeness does not lead to a better self, and discerning women of value avoid drunkards. Chicks that go for drunks and stoners are fool's gold.

[–]harkrank 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

OP more probably than not have some inhibitions and getting a bit buzzed is great grease for social situations. Once he's older and more experienced he won't need this grease, but until then my advice holds up, with emphasis on moderation. t a party at this age you don't want to be the guy that is too sober and too serious. Girls don't want to feel inferior to their suitor, which they are if they are drunk and he's not. But you don't want to be the guy that vomits and passes out or gets into a fight or sits all night discussing some pointless stuff with an equally drunk guy. I agree with you to avoid bars, they are not worth the money at this time.

Finding a girl for LTR is almost impossible at his age, what I took from it he's looking to get laid and for this it only matters if the girl is hot. Self-improvement is important and it is great, but game is much faster o get ahead. OP needs to get laid. If somebody is starving to death it's better that he steals some bread than plant a farm. I don't think we should underestimate the mental damage OP risks if he doesn't get female contact and sex soon.

[–]swallowthisthrowaway[S] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That last line is my great fear. I remember there was a post about natural alphas, and how they grow up surrounded by chicks and realise they aren't worth shit and everything is easy for them. For me it was not like that, I was polite and nice and kind and caring and all that shit, and it was always "oh I'm sure there is someone out there for you just not me."

I am sick of that shit, and I want to get some experience sexually. While monsieurhire2's advice is solid, which I will definitely follow, I don't want to be a 26 year old with perfect body and finances who chokes when a girl says hi and assuming I get the girl to bed I ejaculate in 5 mins.

Apologies for the rant.

[–]harkrank 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Take out negative things and people from your life and welcome positive things and people. Until you are 25 you won't have any value to girls and have to rely solely on game. A nice body will start to give you value as you become older, so lift to be ahead when the time comes and for the confidence and health boost. Money won't matter at all in your age. Even if you get some money by working hard, investing and being frugal it won't be worth jack shit for getting girls, because there is no stereotype for well-off young man except a brat that gets money from his family, so your money will be dismissed. Of course it's nice to have cash, but know that just saying you have an ambition is enough in your age. A guy going to school to possibly maybe get a job that might be well-paid is thousand times more worth than a guy busting his balls at a job and making dough.

Travel. Travel as much as you can afford. This is the easiest way for you to get laid because you are not exciting to girls from your place. Also you have a better chance with younger girls 15-16 because at least you're a couple years older.

[–]swallowthisthrowaway[S] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This is the primary message of the Red Pill. Focus on yourself and make yourself as near perfect as possible, then the chicks will come. It's just hard to not try to get chicks when guys who are poorer than me, uglier than me, and less fit than me pull chicks left right and centre.

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire21 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, but what kind of chicks are they pulling? And how many other guys are those chicks fucking at the same time?

[–]swallowthisthrowaway[S] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Chick that I find sexually attractive. And honestly at this age I don't care about being cheated on. Before the Red Pill I was all for Disney true love relationships and that crap. Now I just want to experience girls.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You're what Tyler RSD would call "not congruent". Basically, your friends can see that your behaviors are not really who you are, just something you're doing because you think it'll work.

Give it time and be more natural about it. Don't say things you wouldn't say to guys. Just be real.

[–]swallowthisthrowaway[S] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't do it to get girls though. I do it because thanks to the Red Pill I realised I don't need to take their shit anymore.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That may be the case, but to people who have known you for a while it is a jarring transition.

You might want to reconsider that though - do you tell guys to "fuck off" indiscriminately? If not, and you're only doing it to girls, then you are not being totally genuine. Try being level in how you treat guys and girls.

It is also possible you just have shitty friends who don't want to see you better yourself, which happens. Progress scares people, especially the weak, who can't (or won't) make it themselves. If you really think they're wrong, don't pay them any mind. When they see you start pulling 8's and 9's with regularity their opinions will start to change.

[–]easythrowaway123 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No. Shut the fuck up and go lift. If you've got acne or whatever either get some OTC shit or see a doctor. If your teeth are gross go to the dentist. Go buy some new clothes. If you don't have any money, get a job. If you don't read, start today.

IT ISN'T ABOUT THE GIRLS. IT ISN'T ABOUT YOUR FRIENDS. IT'S ABOUT YOU. THIS IS YOUR ISSUE AND YOU NEED TO FIX IT.

Your friends are probably right to make fun of you. You're probably a loser. Guess what? You can change. You can make yourself unstoppable. You understand what depression and desperation are, use that to fuel you in your relentless pursuit of self-improvement. Totally cut ties with everyone in your social group. Ghost on these fuckers. Go monk mode. Go MGTOW. Who cares what they think? If you do, you've already lost.

[–]swallowthisthrowaway[S] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think I needed that. Thanks.

[–]Subtletorious2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Your friend tested your Frame. You folded when he called your bluff. If your friends can teach you anything, then watch and learn. If they can't help you on your journey, then don't give two fucks what they think or do.

You do not have an Abundance Mentality. Nobody ever died from lack of fucking. The WHO does not issue a Recommended Daily Intake of pussy.

And you are only 18. Fuck me, you're a baby. I'd give my left nut to be that age and learning Red Pill.

[–]jsl2837 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

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What is this?

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You're 18. You need to focus on yourself for a while. Invest in yourself. If you're in a public university , you have access to an amazing gym most likely. Use it! You're already paying for it.

Pick up some hobbies NOW and stick to them. Pick at least one social hobby. Colleges have student groups for everything. Boom, instant way to meet people (not just women) Personally, I like salsa as it gives you a skill to just dance with the hottest chick in the room with no hesitation and the scene is just classier in general. But you can do anything as long as it involves other people.

This won't just be for women, but for more positive friends in your life. It sounds like your friend is a blue pill guy blessed with good looks.

At 18,youre competing against guys who have had time to get their shit together (early to mid 20s and on). Women are at the peak of their sexual value now so are most likely the cuntiest they'll ever be.

[–]swallowthisthrowaway[S] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for the advice sir.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, I know that feel bud, sucks eh?

[–]swallowthisthrowaway[S] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's utter shit my friend.

[–]1spicy_fries1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Get new friends. Drop the worry. Lift. Work two jobs and save up some cash for a makeover. Increase your SMV.

Then start gaming hard.

Follow the Roosh Program

http://www.rooshv.com/the-roosh-program

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

At this age and with all these hormones running through me, I need sexual female contact.

You haven't fully-embraced red pill thinking: you're thinking you need sex with a woman to survive. Yet, somehow you've survived 18 years without it.

Learn to recognise the difference between what you want and what you need to survive.

Trust me on this: sex is hyped up as the big be all and end all of male existence, which is why women think their pussies hold magic powers, but it simply isn't. I've had many peak experiences in my life that changed me as a man, cultivating deep, stoic maturity in me, and none of them were related to sex. I've stood in some of the most isolated spots on earth, alone. I've said goodbye as they turned off the ventilator keeping my oldest friend breathing. Sat quietly as the tumour growing on my mother's spine finally cut off her breathing, knowing she couldn't be saved, and had asked to not be resuscitated. Leapt into a river to save a friend's son from drowning, knowing I couldn't swim, but knowing I only had to get him back to shore, and it didn't matter if I was lost in the process.

Sex? Jesus man, I don't even remember the girl I lost my virginity with, only the potential suspects. Sex is nothing, sold as everything, to keep everyone insecure and buying shit they don't need to feel better about themselves. Hell, women think it's validation of their attractiveness, never open to the possibility that some guys will fuck anything to get off, always telling themselves that they're 'special' to the alpha studs who plow them.

Fucking is simply a pleasurable act, like eating chocolate, amplified, dependent upon the attractiveness and pleasantness of your partner, and if she has any weird hangups (too open or too guilty) about sex. The majority of women are terrible at sex, though they all think they're porn stars, which is why so much of my seduction process is training them to genuinely-respond to the sensation of their bodies at the touch of another human being, especially if they're under 28 or so, because you're most likely to get 'performed' response, based upon what they've seen in porn movies so guys will think they're 'hot', because they're narcissists, afraid of being negatively-judged.

You're 18, and you won't die if you don't have sex. You are choosing to let your fantasy of it dominate your life. Focus on improving yourself. Get new friends: your friends recognising you're changing and are reacting out of fear and jealousy that you're improving yourself. Most 'friends' people have want them to stay as mundane and lazy as they are, and will try to undercut you and make you doubt yourself. Find friends who are about challenging each other to self-improve - most likely at your gym.

Sex will happen naturally if you keep improving yourself, plan your life, and get out of your obsessive mindset about it. My advice: read up about State Control. You are choosing to be unhappy about this. Master your desires. Focus on your goals, and sex will happen, because girls hate a guy who is desperate for pussy.

You're blessed dude, you're figuring out this shit at eighteen. Most men never figure it out. The world is your oyster, but you have to take control of your life to make it happen. Put in the effort, you'll be rewarded, and have enough sex to see how unimportant it really is.

[–]swallowthisthrowaway[S] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That shit was deep sir. Thank you for sharing with me.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"I need sexual female contact."
Get rid of attitude immediately. Replace it with "I need to become a man, and then females will need my contact." Keep working on the SMV. And never forget, your friend was right about you being a failure. Embrace that truth, suffer, and overcome.

[–]swallowthisthrowaway[S] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks.

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