Kino, how to begin and continue it? Advice STRONGLY required.

Daniele_Lyon · 2019-07-24T08:26:26+00:00

PART 1

Kino. How to do it? before saying my opinion, I want to emphasize some fundamental points. Because as everythings, there are no black or white, but also gray. So starting with this, Kino is not something that will make you succeed with a girl, or fail. Kino is a part of seduction as are words, conversation, or whatever.

And like all relationships, sometimes Kino is not require to succeed with a girl. Some relationships, are based on affection, emotions, arguments, instead of physical contact. But of course, the more things you can do, the more girls will follow you. So it's always nice to know how to deal with Kino.

So. Kino means a physical contact used to improve your confidence with a girl. Like words. When you are talking with a girl about your experiences, you are sharing something with that girl. Kino work in the same way. With the difference that Kino is relatet to physical contact, which is also what you want to do with a woman in bed. This is why is very important.

By the way. I want to say something before. Sometimes people say that Kino will make you succeed with a girl since it give value to your actions. But the reallity of facts is slightly different. Kino will prevent you to be friendzoned, this is why Kino is that much important. Anyhow, you don't need Kino to avoid the friendzone, but socialskills. So we come back to my point. Kino is not needed or required sometimes. But as you may understood, is very important in some relationship, and it help to cover other weaknesses in your relationship.

1] BEHAVIOUR & KINO: This is the first and most important point about Kino. This is also a good justification to understand why sometimes, we must avoid Kino. We, as humans, are the result of different interactions. And these interactions create our behaviour. The result is that if our actions are not coherent, no woman will ever trust us enough to be seduced.

For example, if you are a shy person, Kino will not help you to seeced with a girl you like, neither seduction. The problem here, it's not about functionality or not. The problem here is that your social skill are not coherent with Kino. If you are a shy person, no girl will ever expect a hug from you. And if you try to hug a girl suddenly, you will discover a profound sense of inadequacy. By the way, i'm still talking about a shy person.

I gave this example because everyone should understand that Kino is not an object or a strategy to use when you want. Kino is part of our behaviour. And if you aren't a physical person, then is better avoid Kino. Since coherence is probably the only factor that really matters in any relationship. Not only with girls, but also with frienship, parents or whatever.

But if you want to learn kino, or if you are already a physical person, you want to integrate kino in your behaviour like any other social skill. So starting with something easy, and then trying to improve yourself. It's also quite simple. But let's start with some example. First. Sometimes Kino mean nothing. If you are on the bus, touching a woman's breast, it doesnt mean that you are doing Kino, or that you are doing anything good, at most you are just a maniac if you are thinking in this way.

Kino is important when physical contact is intentional, and the girl that you are touching is aware that you are doing it. And the more she's aware, the more you are doing it in the right way. For example, if your knees touch, not always this is Kino, is the same of the last example on the bus. But sometimes, your feet touch those of the girl; sometimes, when you're sitting, you even get to crush them. This is Kino. Becuase she is aware that you are touching her feets. And if she doesnt step back, it mean that she's enjoing it.

Probably, the most important Kino is take her hand. If you are able to take her hand, than it will give you a lot of feedback about what's happening between that two of us. And at the same time, you are enjoining the moments whit her. That is what we want. And this opens the way for the next topic.

2] ACTIONS & KINO: Physical contact is useful for two reason. First, it will give you feedback on the situation. In other words, how much you can say, how much you can open your heart. But on the other side, Kino will help you to attract her. But I want to repeat it, Kino withouth actions or words mean nothing sometimes. For example, if you suddenly take a girl under your arm, maybe you will make her heart beat faster. But you will not have other results.

Kino is useful to improve your intimacy with a girl. And Kino is not the only way to arrive on this outcome. So take this example. If you are having dinner with a girl, and you take her hand, you will have some physical contact that will improve your intimacy. Not take this other example. You are always at dinner, with the same girl, and you are listening to her family problems. Now. What would happen if while you talk you take her hand? This is Kino. Because when she is opening her heart to you, you are, at the same time, improving the intimacy by using Kino.

And the same happens on less intense occasions. For example, when you are talking freely with a girl, and at the same time, you lightly touch her arm. This will improve your intimacy. But as I want to remember, is not about actions or physical contacts. Is about who you are. If when you are talking, and you usually touch her body when talking, it mean that you have confidance, and that your behaviour is coherent with what you are doing.

So, after you're behaviour learn how to use Kino, than it will become part of you. You can no longer speak without touching. But is what you are now, not what you are trying to be. This is so important, because as I mentione before, Kino is not an object, but is a little part of our behaviour that we want to improve. We want it since it will make easier to improve intimacy and confidance. Not only with girls, even with friends.

Pokemastra · 2019-07-14T16:51:54+00:00

Girls can feel your vibe. If you don’t make it clear that you’re trying to make a move on them and pull them, they’ll think it’s weird. If you’re not confident in yourself, they can feel it. Build up fun energy when you’re around them and escalate. Here’s a post on how to escalate: http://tripfallgetuprepeat.home.blog/2019/04/19/how-to-escalate/

illgiveyouapapow · 2019-07-13T12:29:52+00:00

Take what I say with a big ol’ fuckin grain of salt cuz I’m having the same kind of issue. I just wanna put my thoughts and experiences out there. Maybe helps both of us lol.

First off, girls WANT you to touch them. Mother fucker they waaaaaaaant it!

And there is only one way to do it properly. That is with clear intent, confidently, without anxiety awkwardness or fear. Those negative emotions are what turns a good touch into a bad one. And doing it confidently with intent can turn a potentially inappropriate touch into one that turns her on.

At least, this is my understanding of it right. Clear intent, clear confidence.

See for me, I’m still battling the clear intent part. I’m so used to hiding my sexuality from women. The fact that I desire them. I honestly deep down feel like a monster. I’m a man. A strong thing with a penis that drives me to rape and abuse and hate women.

Except I do none of those things. It’s simply this belief I have deep down that I suppose has been instilled in me since I young age. I mean I still remember things from my childhood about how men are dogs and all this BS.

So deep down I have this fear of being too forward with a woman. Touching her too boldly. I’m TERRIFIED of it. Even though I do it. Even though I’m hugging and touching and even getting kisses from girls. Things are really going swimmingly to be honest. But hell, every time it’s a battle. And every time I lose my confidence and my intent, I fail with the girls. Every time I am confident with clear intent, I have some success.

Me personally, I like hugs. I still feel like a stalker rapist trying to get hugs from girls. But the way they respond and hug me so willingly feels so god damn good. Start trying to hug girls when you greet them.

I don’t think there is any sort of guide or protocol on how to touch a girl. I mean I suppose there’s basic stuff. Safe areas to touch depending on level of sexual intimacy. Obviously you don’t go straight for the pussy just cuz you’re confident and showing intent. Though in some cases that probably does work. I suppose experience would tell you when.

The ONLY guide, in my opinion, is that you are confident, cool and calm, without anxiety and fear and all that, or at least not showing it, and having clear intent. If you want to touch her, touch her. It’s OK, she’s probably going to like it. And if she doesn’t you will know, by how she reacts. You will feel whether she likes it or not. Or she will just tell you. And she will like it if you are confident with intent. She will not like it if you’re awkward and shy. Pretty clear cut IMO. In some rare cases she’s a rabid feminist who freaks out cuz your rapist fingers touched her. I mean what she thinks and feels doesn’t matter. You just drop her and get away ASAP lol.

Dlofud · 2019-07-14T15:25:21+00:00

@ illgiveyouapapow and everyone: I don't want to go against you, indeed I'm trying to help, I like your path!

Try to follow me on this. We all know that steps-by-steps guides don't work.

But I'd like to underline that they don't work _perfectly_, but they are often GREAT guidelines, to help us build the situations we'd like, and so the confidence too.

I wouldn't diluite this, so I try to be clear, hoping this will motivate other posters to help too!

Everyone has experienced this: when you, in the afterthought, realize "I COULD and SHOULD have said that!" or "...DONE that!" and such.

I know you know it. And it's a real thing: things go different if and when you do different things.

So, with kino is the same thing: let's try to find out together what are those situations where you'd end thinking "I could have touched her that way", "...hugged her that way" and such, and list them for everyone, to let it happen in reality.

To everyone: don't make the mistake of thinking that suggestions don't work. There are better lines, there are better moves, there are better demeanors we could have.

Hope to hear from contributors, guys!

Daniele_Lyon · 2019-07-24T08:26:36+00:00

PART 2

3] SUDDEN KINO: The last argument, is about making Kino the most important weapon of your behaviour. Going back to what we said, we must add that on most occasions, is the man who must lead a relationship, at least in the beginning. This is why, a good seducer, will know how to regulate his behaviour in relation to the situation.

For example, at some point, you will no longer need physical contact to know when you can say something. You no longer take her hand to understand if you can reveal your feelings. You will take her hands to take the relation to the next step. This is like cheating. And in fact, Kino work in the same way at some point. But I want to repeat, to reach this point, you have to make Kino your best weapon. In other words, your personallity have to be based on Kino, on physical interactions, instead of words or whatever. You can reach this point with experience, and is optional.

Anyway, Kino will allow you to go further. This is why I said cheating. If you, normally, need to know a girl, ask her out, and then try to reveal your feelings. Well. Kino allows you to reduce the waiting time between the various steps, and sometimes, you can also skip some step. For example, you can know a girl and with the good amount of Kino, reveal your feelings without taking her out. Or also, kiss her withouth reveal your feelings, that is what you want.

There are some invisible structures, in our society, that can be skipped with Kino. But as I said, you have to be really good at using it. And also remember, that Kino has a negative response on long term relationship. Because as you may know, the faster you build a relationship, the faster it will fall. Many times it work in this way.

I'll put some example. Imagine you know a girl, and while you're telling her about a strange situation that happened to you, you take her shoulders and show her exactly what happened. You almost squeeze it as if to embrace it. This is real Kino. And without the possibility of error, if everything is coherent with your behaviour, she will not reject you. Instead, she will be immediately attracted to you. This is why we are talking about cheating. Because what you would build in months of hard work, you built it in a single action.

But. Why does it work like this? Well, the answer is that the humanity in general builds many of its bonds through physical contact. Sex is the most obvious example. There are many explanations for this process, we could say for example, that physical contact helps to find intimacy, trust, or closeness. Or as I see it, physical contact help you to let the other person to overthink about that contact, and then be more attracted. I don't know if you know it, but in most situations, it's the fantasy that makes us fall in love with a person. The fact that we overthink about this person, what she does or whatever. This is another explanation to understand why Kino work.

Anyway. I want to say that Kino work better on males then females. Girls, usually, don't appreciate too much physical contact if you don't know it. But already after a fair exchange of words, you could be able to make your physical contact works.

Only to concluse. I want to say two more things. First. Too much Kino is cheating. Build your seduction strategy around Kino is so wrong in my opinion. Not only for moral reasons, but because it does not lead to any longterm noteworthy results. Second. Kino is useless withouth having a strong behaviour, a steady consistency in speaking. And as I always say, in the vast majority of situations, Kino is not required to succeed.

Title	Kino, how to begin and continue it? Advice STRONGLY required.
Author	Dlofud
Upvotes	3
Comments	9
Date	July 13, 2019 12:10 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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