Hi guys,

New to the field of pickup but not new to the concept. Read and used Mystery method back in 2007...then 2011-2012 ish did little bit (very little) gaming in Sydney watched and followed people like Paul Janka and few others. Was in a serious relationship for the past 5 years (2015-2019 Oct).

Now single again and trying to get back into seduction. I am trying to do a full comprehensive study so I wanted recommendations on what courses to start with (Todd V or Julian etc) which are the best in the industry which yield results. I have access to many many courses. I recently bought Todd V and Bradicus, however I am not confined to these coz I am happy to acquire any other course.

OK SO..From what I understand a lot of the courses/programs are targeted towards people who have had trauma/disturbed childhood/violent up bringing or have had psychological issues in the past. People with low self esteem or generally guys who considered themselves misfits in the society. Some of the programs are really great to 'clean the slate' and start afresh, and this is no problem at all. I am happy that people are benefiting from this, HOWEVER why is it that this is taken as a standard starting point for most people. I see a lot of recommendations where the first two to three courses suggested are to mentally fix yourself first and then there are the seduction ones. I am in no way trying to offend anyone here but this is just an observation I have made. Back in the days when Mystery started very little/none was discussed on mental well being etc but the approach was focused straight on seduction.

Could someone throw some light on the topic please. What route is the community taking in general towards learning the subject in terms of what programs etc to follow.