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This is a joke right?
/r/seduction30/10/22 02:07 PM
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Ypu won’t develop an abundance mindset until you have abundance with women. That’s the catch and why most men never get out of the situation they’re currently in. You just have to chip away at the problem and get one girl at a time until you have abundance. Getting the first few is the hardest the same way you’ll hear someone say the first million is the hardest.
/r/seduction29/10/22 03:37 AM
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What happens if the guys 6’ and taller start wearing lifts as well……..😂
/r/seduction14/08/22 10:09 PM
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You don’t unless your meet organically. Maybe online friends like pen pals. I don’t know what your play is trying to meet girls to be friends with……. If it happens organically or they’re your friends girl then you’ll be friends or friendly with them but if ypur tryna meet a girl best friend as an adult is kinda weird……… Most people don’t make new friends of any gender past a certain age. When I say friends I mean actual friends and not acquaintances
/r/seduction03/08/22 09:41 PM
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What’s the reason? If your approaching girls you don’t know they won’t believe you want anything other than dating.
/r/seduction03/08/22 09:16 PM
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It’s unattractive/ your nervousness let’s her know your not used to talking with girls. That tells her you don’t get other girls. Why don’t other girls want you? It’s creepy that no girls want you , what’s wrong with you? This plays out in the subconscious and the cycle repeats over n over. You might not be ugly but if you were the guy they wanted to fuck based on looks alone ypud know by now.
/r/seduction03/08/22 08:56 PM
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Creeping women out is side by side with just having zero sexual attraction.
/r/seduction03/08/22 08:45 PM
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It depends on looks, there’s a small percentage of men that girls find “hot” based on looks alone. Meaning she wants to have sex with him based on looks alone and is ready right away. These guys will get girls without trying. As for guys with money or status in a business if the girl meets him in his world dates will come easily to him. Confidence with women is different than confidence in other areas of life and you only get it when you’ve had success repeatedly with women. The more women the m…
/r/seduction21/02/22 01:21 AM
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Your not really challenging her or putting her on the spot to respond to something you said. Shes more the one challenging you and your tryna twist it into wit but your not pushing her back enpugh.
/r/seduction16/01/22 07:23 PM
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Check your diet and water intake as well as the other advice people are giving. It’s probably most likely psychological but your diet can make a difference in your sexual appetite and performance
/r/seduction03/01/22 12:24 AM
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This is good except I would say leaving a girl on read comes into play when she sends you a text that seeks a response. If you say a joke and she writes “lol your sooo funny (emoji)” That doesn’t necessarily require a response and is more just letting the conversation resolve itself naturally. Text game is all balance and timing. You gotta feel out when it’s good to go sexual and you gotta find the right balance of how often you exchange texts with the girl. In the beginning I personally wouldn’…
/r/seduction06/12/21 09:20 PM
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You want to put off the idea that your interested in her but not sure how interested. Being to clear and upfront with her often leads to women losing interest for many reasons but basically your predictable, not a challenge and she knows what continuing to date you will look like. Think of it like this, the girl is crazy high interest from day one and is equally as excited as you to the point she basically wants a relationship after one date and can’t spend enough time with you . So you get the …
/r/seduction03/12/21 09:22 PM
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It’s your attitude,behaviors and swagger is what is making you “cute”. Also have you ever actually felt like you were a sexy man and just knew that girls would be wanting to fuck you? First you gotta diagnose the problem and break it down to its simplest form. From there you can make changes to what you need. Many guys will never here the words hot come out of a girls mouth but if your hearing cute it could most likely be changed to hot if you can make some attitude and behavioral changes. Also …
/r/seduction15/11/21 02:36 AM
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That’s not really enough information to know if she’s into you. The eye contact is a good thing but a lot of guys make things out to be a bigger deal than they actually are. Next time you are talking with her and there’s not a line of people ask when she’s free to together. Don’t go to the store looking for her. Don’t wait around looking at her to make the perfect eye contact or for the perfect opportunity
/r/seduction27/10/21 08:35 PM
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A lot of girls would start a testing the waters by saying things like I’m keeping you, or I want to keep you. Sometimes they hug me hard and say mine. This all usually happened after sex. At some point soon after they’d bring up exclusivity.
/r/seduction27/10/21 08:32 PM
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Guys also like other guys in a non Sexual way who give eachother shit it’s just a little different and called breaking balls. It’s much more challenging of a conversation than small talk about the standard shit. It could also be tied into the fact that little boys pick on little girls when they like them.
/r/seduction27/10/21 05:55 PM
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Based on looks for the most part. They want a good personality too but ideally want an attractive girl.
/r/seduction27/10/21 01:47 PM
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It’s in Their biology. They developed the desire to seek the most valuable man as a way to keep the human race going. This is why women will chase players even though they know they’ll most likely get hurt or used. Once other women want him he’s automatically more valuable and desirable.
/r/seduction27/10/21 12:28 PM
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Women want a man who has more value than her. They don’t want to be the prize they want the prize. If a man chooses her over all the other attractive cool women then she is special. If she’s the only cool attractive girl he can get she’s not as special. The mans behaviors subconsciously tells her which category he’s in.
/r/seduction27/10/21 12:13 PM
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In this case she was probably telling the truth. Had you not kissed at all I would say she wasn’t into you when she saw you. She might have got a text from her ex when you were in the bathroom….. Or She saw a picture of him or thought about him and was like I’m about to sleep with a guy I don’t even know (I’m assuming you didn’t take her through any comfort if your meeting at her place first night)
/r/seduction27/10/21 12:10 PM
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Op should just take advantage and use the confidence boost of messing with her to get the relationship he wants. If she wants to just have sex with guys then your only gonna get yourself hurt even if you got a relationship with her.
/r/seduction27/10/21 02:40 AM
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There’s no such thing as practice with women. This is why so many men never get anywhere is that every game is a real game and most can’t handle the pressure when starting from zero so they make excuses.
/r/seduction27/10/21 02:36 AM
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Most guys can’t get a girl to hangout with them once a Week, maybe once a month and they won’t see most of those girls again.
/r/seduction26/10/21 11:23 PM
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The problem is many of the coaches sell pickup as magic but it’s only helps you get the girls who see you as at least a 5/10. If girls on average see you as a 3/10 then learning game isn’t gonna magically get you girls. It does have value but you can’t learn it in a weekend or an hour. Your looks /style will be your most valuable asset in the very beginning before you have girls your with as social proof. Ultimately it will be your game and charisma that locks in the girls attraction for you but…
/r/seduction26/10/21 12:15 AM
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Once you get past 25-30 area you probably won’t care about counting…… If you are at like 3 or less lays and you have goals to get to 100 then you gotta get on it ASAP!!! Good game can help you capitalize on opportunities with girls who see you as a maybe but if she don’t see you as at least a 5/10 then your gonna get a lot of what you’ve been getting the past however many years. You gotta reduce things to the simplest form. Can you approach a girl your attracted to for her number or a date? Can’…
/r/seduction25/10/21 05:14 PM
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I don’t know how bad it was that she broke your heart. We’re you actively dating and fucking or were you chasing her for a while and then stopped? Girls will also do this when they want to put themselves back into your life. I can’t tell you if she just wants your attention or if she wants to hangout cuz you didn’t give enough details to make an assumption. If you respond wait 3 days and write something like “Lame” if the video sucks then it’s cuz the video is lame but if it’s awesome then she’s…
/r/seduction22/10/21 01:22 PM
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Way to many people are trying to twist the having your life together part and making it like it’s subjective when realistically it’s not. Are you able to be independent on your own? You can definitely still get girls like this but the guys that do that will usually already have the skill down. If you don’t have a place to take a girl how do you plan on seducing her? You can def seduce a girl and sleep with her in her car or at her place (if she has one which many don’t) but when your first start…
/r/seduction22/10/21 02:17 AM
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You pretty much stoped pedestalizing women and stopped fantasizing about them as if meeting them would be a Disney fairytale and you have this idea of her being the answer to your life.
/r/seduction21/10/21 10:28 PM
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My point was more the many introverted types of women won’t give you much as far signals and that your more likely to keep meeting extroverts. Not that there’s anything wrong with that but it was an observation I’ve seen within my social circles.
/r/seduction21/10/21 06:54 PM
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Yeah I would say most of the time it’s just finding the right balance more than anything. You definitely don’t want to over text but ive taken many girls through comfort and began sexual escalation in text. Then when met on date the date itself was the all sexual escalation with a slight touch of comfort to keep the sexual escalation more exciting when it was happening and leading into seduction.
/r/seduction21/10/21 05:19 PM
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Yeah I’m talking about you being an introvert in social situations……. Unless your planning on meeting your girlfriend online. I don’t know many introverts that draw the attention or take the initiative to make a move on a girl within a social setting
/r/seduction21/10/21 04:51 PM
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This is possible or your not very good at carrying the conversation or starting it so you are more attracted to extroverts cuZ they’re the only girls you’ve really talked to……
/r/seduction21/10/21 10:21 AM
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She’s the one showing the red flags……..
/r/seduction20/10/21 11:14 AM
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Dude if you only want casual sex you can’t have them stay over and not have sex…… what did you think was gonna happen? Also if she was really into she would’ve taken the risk of you not wanting more than sex in the hopes she would be different and change you. Girls do this constantly. The only time they set rules on sex is when they aren’t really interested into you sexually. She’s probably medium low attraction but sees you as great on paper so she doesn’t want to completely lose you which is w…
/r/seduction20/10/21 11:10 AM
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There is no magic game secret or magic sequence that unlocks women
/r/seduction18/10/21 11:29 PM
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Tell her she’s be much more attractive if she didn’t talk so much. Or when she’s all over the place say “hang on, let me see something (like your concerned) Say stand right there, look right at me and let your mouth close. When she does this let her stay like that until she says what is this? Then say I just wanted to see what you look like when your not talking (then smile or smirk like your having fun teasing her) If you do the something like the second thing really relies on you selling it an…
/r/seduction07/10/21 02:33 PM
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Gossiping with her or listening to her gossip is feminine. You wouldn’t be doing that if you didn’t want to sleep with her. Next time she starts gossiping say “you know you would be way more attractive if you didn’t talk so much and smile so she knows your giving her shit and teasing her. Really you should just leave this one alone as far as actually sleeping with her but it would hell to practice flirting with women and talking to them in a way that attracts them sexually. If your listening to …
/r/seduction07/10/21 02:20 PM
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He doesn’t have to chase you because he’s getting what he wants and has other equally cool and attractive women as options. He won’t settle down until he’s ready, it has little to do with the woman because if all the women want him there’s gonna be more available later when he is ready to settle down. It’s the same thing women do to betas. Even if he was ready to settle down and have a relationship I doubt he’ll just start chasing you because he hasn’t ever chased a woman before and it’s worked …
/r/seduction04/10/21 10:44 PM
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College probably lol
/r/seduction03/10/21 02:29 AM
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Past 20 your gonna have to look for a seriously religious girl or a very innocent 18 year old who hasn’t had a boyfriend yet. Most women will not be virgins by 20.
/r/seduction02/10/21 10:35 PM
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You Acted needy and weak like she was the only girl in the world , that’s why she lost interest in you. Sounds like your just jealous cuz you thought you had an opportunity for a gf and now she’s not interested sexually anymore. Next girl just sleep with her and hangout with her for a month or two without caring if you get in a relationship or not. Don’t text her everyday but respond to her texts (not all day everyday and not the second she messages your very time like you were waiting by the ph…
/r/seduction30/09/21 01:07 PM
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Don’t drop your salary in conversation man…… Worst idea ever. You make great money but you don’t make yacht party money so all your doing is telling the girl you don’t feel your good enough for her but you come with long term provisions…….. This is how you get starfish sex and deAdbedroOm/ divorce papers when you thought things were going okay. Let her see for herself over the course of dating that you have financial success and she’ll be e yea hot for you.
/r/seduction29/09/21 05:10 PM
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You don’t know the girl I give you two options, one where the girls family is together and well off and one where the family is divorced and lives in the ghetto who would you rather take on a date based on only that info? Your argument is equivalent to he only saw a picture of her and is only dating her cuz she’s really hot and that will make his life easier with gaining respect from other men and women in his field.
/r/seduction27/09/21 01:37 PM
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Your wrong in this situation not op lol. He never met the daughter yet and if the girls family has money and is together it’s a huge bonus per dating a girl from a poor broken home.
/r/seduction27/09/21 01:30 PM
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Needing sex makes you needy. Don’t over text her, get upset if she doesn’t want sex the first time your making out. Don’t initiate contact for no reason,don’t text her all day even if she’s the one initiating contact, Don’t try to set the second date on the first, don’t try to make plans more than once a week (wait at least 1-3 months and let her start hinting at it or one random week invite her to hang twice and then go back to once until she starts letting you know she wants to see you more) I…
/r/seduction27/09/21 01:27 PM
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Many men don’t start to look more like a man until early - mid twenties. Girls go for the guys who look like men instead of boys. Even high school they typically want to date college guys or middle school girls want to date highschool guys. If they are dating guys in highschool they typically won’t date down in grade because of perceived status and senior will look closer to grown men. They will go for the football player or athletes who have status but are also more muscular and have probably g…
/r/seduction27/09/21 02:05 AM
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Pua stuff will help a lot but it’s not magic and won’t get a basement dweller or really fat and ugly guy with no style, job, ambition or possessions women. The girls have to want to be games by you for it to work or at the very least be open to the idea of being gamed. That’s why it’s partially a numbers game as well.
/r/seduction23/09/21 02:36 PM
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If your tryna fund anything more than sex good luck………
/r/seduction23/09/21 09:06 AM
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I’m thinking about you naked and it’s easier to concentrate when I’m not talking. (Assuming she’s a girl your interested in or dating)
/r/seduction22/09/21 12:46 AM
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You can’t appear to be following a script or pattern so switch it up. The best thing really is to actually have a full schedule so your unpredictable responses and response time is legit and just happens easily and naturally
/r/seduction20/09/21 08:19 PM
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No boring small talk, no direct compliments on looks, ask her out within a week. Don’t text all day back and forth even if she’s seeking your attention. Respond to her texts but sometimes within 5-10 min sometimes 30 and sometimes 2-3 hours. Send a few challenging/ playful/ exciting or sexually charged messages back and forth and then sometimes you tell her you gotta run, sometimes you just let the conversation end naturally. Aside from the intial conversation or maybe first 2 conversations your…
/r/seduction20/09/21 08:18 PM
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Your texting is probably like “ what did you do today? What do you like to do for fun? What did you have for dinner? Or even worse “what did you have for lunch?” “Goodnorning beautiful” Goodnight cutie” That kinda of texting makes any guy who knows what he’s doing cringe cuz it’s a one way ticket to the friendzone unless she finds you hot from the start. Not handsome, not cute, not attractive, not above average. Only hot meaning she wants to sleep with you based looks alone. The only other time …
/r/seduction20/09/21 08:00 PM
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Part of it is gonna be your looks and style as well as what you say. If you look like the attention providing text buddy she’s gonna have a hard time accepting your frame if she ever does (no matter how good your game is)
/r/seduction20/09/21 07:56 PM
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Whatever image you think your portraying I bet nobody actually sees you like that……. At best they probably see you 1/2 of what you think your putting off. If you ain’t clearly ever had any hot chicks in your lap then what’s the difference? You should just use the app, don’t be all desperate on there or on 10 of them but most guys who are even successful with women are usually on 1 app or were at some point. You care to much about what other people think of you
/r/seduction19/09/21 11:45 PM
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You were also probably over complimenting her, being to nice and showing to much interest to fast
/r/seduction04/09/21 01:07 PM
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You acted like a friend and only a friend so that’s what she sees you as. Maybe she woulda rejected a kiss when she was in bed with you but chances are she wanted you to make a move on her. At the 16 you may have not got passed making out with her but it’s more about the direction things are moving than wether you went all the way or not. Also to nice
/r/seduction04/09/21 11:32 AM
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Instead of being so passive aggressive and nihilistic you could ask….. Do you know how king it takes to type up a mock conversation that gives details? You went right for the negative when the comment I left was already full of detailed advice. I coulda wrote you out a full conversation with detailed notes and you woulda either dismissed it or looked for something else to ask about to prove your point that everyone give vague bullshit advice like just be confident…… Look up crag Ferguson flirts …
/r/seduction03/09/21 10:33 PM
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You don’t try to get them into your bed before sex …… you sleep with them on your couch and either move to the bedroom halfway if during a position change or you just enjoy sex on the couch and wait till the next time she comes over to take her to your bedroom. You also are gonna have poor results if the whole date your asking her a million questions like your interviewing her or your basically having a conversation that could just as easily be a business meeting, conversation with family member…
/r/seduction03/09/21 08:03 PM
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From what I’ve seen The average person starts having sex between 17-19 and lies about it at 16. Also don’t tell anyone else your a virgin just keep it to yourself.
/r/seduction30/08/21 08:59 PM
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The big one guys don’t do is just go for it and let her see what it would feel like to kiss him. Most relationships that started from friend groups “just sorta happened”. They just ended up hooking up one night. You can’t explain to a girl she should be internet in you and if your not good with women or flirting it’s clear as day your hitting on her (poorly) and showing her your trying to make something happen. It has to almost seem like it wasn’t intentional and the easiest way for that to be r…
/r/seduction24/08/21 12:56 AM
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Dude your in the same position as like 70-80% of guys. Many are even in a worse spot and are still virgins so they got that weight on their shoulders. You’ll be alright, just start doing shot and going for women. Your clearly not the guy they just throw themselves at or your know it by now. That don’t mean your not good looking and can’t get girls though. If your not approaching girls in anyway then your not gonna get laid often or at all. If you are approaching then and not getting anywhere the…
/r/seduction29/07/21 03:03 AM
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You could chan her the olans if it’s a day or 2 before as long as what your suggesting sounds more fun and you make it like it’s a positive thing to change plans or that she lucky you decided to do this with her instead. If the weathers supposed to be really nice is a perfect reason to want to change plans. Just make sure that any change is very decisive,direct and very clear plan that sounds better than the original. Better in the sense of no More fun or you changed because the weathers so nice…
/r/seduction12/07/21 04:51 AM
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Either find the money, borrow it,trade for it or tell her before you go on the date you had to cancel the other part…… You don’t want to ask her to spilt the bill. I would recommend if you do pay for the first date say “if we decide to go out again she can get the next one” (actually let her pay) I don’t know how old you are but splitting the check is a move that could very easily be seen as cheap and a turnoff by a lot of girls, If you pay for every other date your basically splitting The bill …
/r/seduction12/07/21 04:29 AM
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Just keep waving like you didn’t get rejected. Don’t try to talk to her for the next few weeks. If she tries to talk to you then talk with her. When you talk with her if your not exciting or challenging her in anyway is probably your problem. It’s impossible to know why she rejected you but unless she’s already married or in a relationship women do not reject men they are interested in. If your conversations are similar to the ones you would have with an aunt context and tone. Then your really r…
/r/seduction01/07/21 05:30 AM
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I’d guess you’ve wanted her the whole time but sorta compartmentalized your interest in her away because she was in a relationship. Now she’s available and your thinking about it. Is she a friend friend that you hangout with one on one, a girl in your friend group, a friend that you see once in a while? Your to vague and friend can mean a lot of things especially when true plutonic friendships rarely exist. Are you a guy who gets a lot of women himself? Do a lot of girls want you and do you slee…
/r/seduction01/07/21 04:34 AM
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I don’t know how big you are but I wouldn’t send any full dick pics if she wants them: Even if you were hung I’d make her wait. Send an outline pic at the most to get her imagination going. Entice her with words and get her hot before you See her. A word response I would just say something like come find out. Also flip things and put yourself in the dominant position. Ask her the questions and start leading the dirty talk which if she’s looking for a big dick I doubt she’s looking for missionary…
/r/seduction01/07/21 01:22 AM
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overly respectful. Like the guy who’s so overly respectful of a woman he doesn’t ever try and kiss her or sleep with a girl he’s on a date with…….. wouldn’t want to make them feel uncomfortable…….
/r/seduction29/06/21 03:54 PM
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Yeah even if a girl would allow you to “practice” seducing her it would never be real. That moment you can’t quite describe when a girl starts falling into your frame and is licking eyes with you as she’s beginning to want you more and more and your beginning to want her more and more as you escalate things would never be real. Even if you hired an escort and she played along you would have doubt in the back of your mind that it was real. That’s why it don’t really translate and you have to prac…
/r/seduction29/06/21 02:00 AM
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On a normal rejection 100% I was more pointing to the gym. Every gyms different but the girls are more talkative in the locker room. It’s important to n out get the reputation of the guy who approaches all the girls and gets rejected or you’ll be seeing a lot more boyfriends come up. I was more talking to guys in general as opposed to o.p.specifically. For the individuals mindset and confidence it’s definitely better assume it’s 100% and take it at face value
/r/seduction29/06/21 01:48 AM
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You don’t believe she would want you.
/r/seduction28/06/21 10:04 PM
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Don’t say thank you.
/r/seduction28/06/21 10:02 PM
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The approach wasn’t terrible but he did sorta wait for the right moment. I personally don’t think the approach them by the locker room or in the parking lot isn’t the best. The kind of confidence women find attractive is the competent confidence that you get from success with other women. That repeated success comes out in your body language, tone of voice, eye contact and choice of words/ general energy and vibe. If they cared about the guy who tried they would be equally as interested in the g…
/r/seduction28/06/21 10:00 PM
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I would mostly agree with this too and add you don’t want to get a reputation as the guy who gets rejected. Maybe she actually has a boyfriend but that’s the most common way women reject guys so it’s really 50/50. Better to approach than not but imo your better off playing more of a social circle game in a place where you see the same girls repeatedly.
/r/seduction28/06/21 09:45 PM
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Your problem is that your not turning the women on in any way shape or form and put off a plutonic vibe. You might as well be a desk in the room. I would say couch but they at least get sit on. If your actually talking to the women and they aren’t responding to you then your still a desk but at least your trying. It’s like the women in your family telling you that your a great catch and handsome means nothing because the women who are peers and actual options aren’t showing sharing the same opin…
/r/seduction27/06/21 03:34 PM
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I would agree but suggest doing this while finding a style that you actually feel comfortable in or matches your personality. For example there is nothing more unattractive to me than a girl with a lot of random tattoos who has a sweet or bubbly pers personality. If she’s got sleeves but they have no flow and don’t match her vibe at all is a turnoff. At the same time a sleeve on a girl who puts off sorta a “rock chick” kind of vibe is usually hot. If your personality isn’t hard you might not wan…
/r/seduction24/06/21 11:36 PM
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With any kind of gym game or whatever you will see her again so you don’t have to rush things if you don’t want to. I don’t think there’s any problems with approaching at the gym but I would recommend either waiting till your getting choosing signals like o.p. Was getting or already be good at approaching. You really don’t want to get the rep of the guy who approaches girls and gets rejected there. Girls talk even when you think they don’t. If you get the rep of the guy the girls want then it re…
/r/seduction23/06/21 08:31 PM
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There’s no one right or wrong way to do things. It depends on the overall approach. You gotta be consistent and co friend in whatever you do. If your mixing and matching a bunch of shit from different guys your probably not gonna be very successful. Every one of those guys could have a lot of success even though one kisses on the first date and one chooses not to. One may text in between dates (suavely in a fun and balanced way) someone else might text only for logistics and nothing else. Both c…
/r/seduction19/06/21 11:36 PM
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If a woman views herself as being Gods gift to man and humanity and she perceives you as not being in her league or beneath her many will literally be offended that you thought they were someone you could be with. It’s sorta the way some girls were in highschool but it carries over into adulthood. I’ve known some girls who were barely even attractive that would do this. It’s most likely an insecurity thing and that their status and self worth is based on them being considered the hot girl by the…
/r/seduction18/06/21 01:01 AM
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It was really me adding on more and bringing up one of the point o.p. Made about it being one of the bonuses of having friends who are girls. I see way too many guys read a post like o.p. And think that will solve my problems and are then realize that it didn’t help them get girls. The way the original post was written I could easily see some clueless guys who’ve never had many relationships of any kind with women draw the conclusion that this was their problem and would fix things. It won’t giv…
/r/seduction15/06/21 08:38 PM
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You misread what I was saying. I was agreeing with you that it won’t help them guys. Any new girls they introduced to your group if they ask if there’s any single guys your friends will suggest the ones who already successful with women.
/r/seduction15/06/21 05:13 PM
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The other thing is when the girls bring around any girlfriends they basically prefriendzoned them guys. The girls will almost always be asked if they have any single guy friends but the girls in your group will not promote the ones who could use the boost. They’ll put forward and try to set their girlfriends up with the guys in your group who get all the girls. I wonder if o.p. Is posting from personal Experience or just a logical idea from someone who hasn’t had success with women or friendship…
/r/seduction15/06/21 03:39 AM
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This is also if your guy in the group that they want. I wrote a comment about not having unrealistic expectations with having girls as friends because if they see you as a complete non sexual entity then your most likely gonna see the same issue with any girls they bring around. Basically you can get cock blocked both ways. Imo The best position to be In is The girls in your group have boyfriends and also see you as a sexual option on some level. They could still cock block but usually won’t and…
/r/seduction15/06/21 03:09 AM
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Imo this will help you get more coMfortable talking with women in general and being around them if your not used to it but if you’ve had some success with women and relationships (just not a lot or with the girls you really wanted) being part of their friend group won’t help you get much better with girls…… Having girls in your friend group is deffinitly a bonus but unless the girls are half or interested on some level (they’re at least curious about you enough that your a sexual option in some …
/r/seduction15/06/21 02:59 AM
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Either find one spot you do like and go there or find some other social environment to hang out in. I would ask yourself why you don’t like the before just discarding them. Is the reason you don’t like them because you typically felt uncomfortable in these environments? Is it be possible you had years of feeling like a wall flower and invisible in these places…….. Is it because you feel uncomfortable or out of your element in these places? Have you ever even been to a club? Have you been to more…
/r/seduction11/06/21 03:12 AM
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Good luck man. Get out there and get some experience. Sex is awesome but obviously you don’t feel good about yourself paying for it so your gonna have to work to get it like 98% of men do
/r/seduction01/06/21 04:27 AM
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Women don’t base sexual attraction on looks like men do. Men will sleep with a girl who’s cute, pretty, beautiful hot average and often even below average Women will sleep with men based on looks if hes hot and If your attractive or handsome or cute she will give you a shot which is why so many guys get a first date but not a second or third. She saw him as a potential sexual partner but on the date he didn’t turn her on or he turned her off and she no longer looks at him as a potential sexual p…
/r/seduction01/06/21 04:10 AM
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Because they want to weed out guys who are literally only tryna bang then with no chance of anything else. It comes down to her perceived value of you from the beginning nsa how hot she thinks you are or if she even thinks your hot. Imagine she can get laid by basically any guy she wants if all she wants is sex and nothing else. She sees potential for you as someone she might want to be with but she doesn’t see you as the guy who she wants only sex with. She isn’t even certain she wants to sleep…
/r/seduction01/06/21 03:54 AM
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This is why your losing them because your not hot enough for her to want to sleep with you without the chance of it going further. If you were brad Pitt saying that a girl will go along with it hoping that she’s the one girl who can change that. This is why women date players and a lot of guys can’t grasp it. She finds him so attractive and valuable right from the start that even knowing he’s saying he doesn’t want anything serious or he sleeps with tons of girls but doesn’t settle down, she is …
/r/seduction01/06/21 02:48 AM
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No. They usually just try to stand by you when they want you. They will typically make it known in some way but they usually want the guy to step up to them. It’s almost the first line of defense to weed out weak insecure men.
/r/seduction01/06/21 02:41 AM
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Your inexperience stops you from knowing that the many women will say they want a relationship but that doesn’t mean they want one before sex. This is why so many guys screw things up, they go on the first date looking for a relationship and then wonder why the girl was turned off. If your getting girls talking to you online then theirs no reason you shouldn’t be having some sex. At least 2 girls a year. Also sleeping with 2/3 girls most likely won’t make much of a difference to you as far as “f…
/r/seduction01/06/21 02:36 AM
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Comfort is getting a girl comfortable with your presence. It has little to do with getting. Know eachother. Her knowing a few things about you will allow her to have something to tel her girlfriends about you and learn that your not a loser or psycho but it doesn’t matter te r how much you have in common with a girl or how much you get to know about her. No amount of liking or showing interest in a girl will make her want you. That’s the bullshit you see in tv and movies the doesn’t work. You ca…
/r/seduction10/04/21 10:27 PM
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Also your value resides where you believe it does. If you believe your value to a woman is what you can give to her or do for her (beta male value mindset ) Then that’s what your value to her will be and the problem with this is women don’t need men to provide financially anymore since they have their own jobs or worst case the government so what does a man have to provide? He can provide her with relationship goals most women have. She wants the titles. Engaged, married honeymoon, husband and w…
/r/seduction05/04/21 11:35 PM
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The mindset of the person is typically what makes someone more alpha or beta. How you think manifests itself in your words tone and actions. If you’ve always been person everyone ignores you’ll do things to create that same scenario over and over even when you meet new groups of people. Many guys who have that issue take on the nice guy persona on some level. When your the nice guy your not positive or negative. Your just neutral. Everybody likes you but it’s because you go with what they want a…
/r/seduction05/04/21 11:06 PM
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Text enough how you’ve been until the text responses come to your mind right away. Then just do the same shit you do in text in real life. You’ll find most women respond to the same jokes as the others do. Don’t be afraid to use the same joke over and over again. If you had a funny joke you told to your family would you not tell it to your friends? Once the responses come to your mind fast start incorporating the same style jokes in real life. If your spending over 5-10 min to craft a text your …
/r/seduction05/04/21 12:27 AM
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It’s like a super beta trying to say it doesn’t exist to an alpha. I thought that was pretty damn ridiculous and rogan thought so too. The terms are just words really but just look at high school....... You clearly have a hierarchy and the same dynamic plays out through all of adulthood........ it’s just harder to recognize when everyone doesn’t know everyone for years and are in such a small group where everyone knows everything everyone does or did. More people become attractive and datable. F…
/r/seduction04/04/21 05:18 AM
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Arms crossed/ beer over chest almost always means they are guarded and dont feel comfortable in that positions place. The eyebrow Could have literally been a nervous auto response. Sorta like you caught them off guard when they were checking you out and that was their response. That’s not the worst auto response to have happen, a lot of guys look down at the floor or away as if they are doing something wrong checking the girl out........ this will usually ends up in him losing his chance with he…
/r/seduction04/04/21 04:33 AM
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Alphabetaare just words to describe two types of men. There’s absolutely men who are more alpha and women are more drawn to them. Alpha isn’t necessarily about being jacked or a Hardass who can a lot of people think. For example mick jagger would fall under alpha male and he’s pretty damn flamboyant in a lot of ways. From what I’ve read on him he pretty much runs the show and people follow him and his lead as opposed to him following others. There’s the men all the women want and the men who str…
/r/seduction04/04/21 12:21 AM
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Strait shave it and if you can grow some facial hair. Making it a cultivated look will do a lot better for you. The George costanza (at 18 you might not even know who that is). horseshoe cut doesn’t say sex appeal at all
/r/seduction02/04/21 08:14 PM
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How well do you know her? I can tell you girls usually don’t go out with guys they have zero interest in. Only girls who don’t get asked a lot and don’t know how to say no do that. Girls reject men for first dates all the time. They don’t see them as a potential sexual partner so there’s no reason to go out with him. When a girl goes on a first date but not a second it’s the same idea. She saw you as a potential but you did something to turn her off and now your in the same boat as the guy she d…
/r/seduction02/04/21 01:37 AM
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If you already hooked up with her and your on 4th or 5th date how would you be acting? You already know for a fact she’s into you. You aren’t nervous and can just have fun and enjoy your time hanging with her
/r/seduction02/04/21 01:31 AM
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How I do things is I basically act like I’ve already been out with her a few times, already slept with her and I already know she wants me.
/r/seduction02/04/21 01:30 AM
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A lot of guys follow the stuff they see on tv and that only works if the girl is crazy high interest from the start but even then it backfires a lot leaving a lot of men left scratching their head wondering what went wrong. Some Light Teasing and playful banter will get you a million times further than trying to show her how interested you are or trying to impress her. You want to be indifferently interested until she brings up exclusivity. What that basically means is obviously your showing int…
/r/seduction02/04/21 01:22 AM
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It’s not really about what you do it’s more about what way you communicate with her and have fun with her
/r/seduction02/04/21 01:08 AM
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People keep saying tread lightly and all that but you don’t want to be afraid to make a move. If you act plutonic you will most likely get plutonic results. It doesn’t matter how nice you are or how much interest you show in her or how much you get to know or know about her (none of this will make her want or like you) Have fun and flirt with her, create some sexual tension make the interaction man to woman. You can’t communicate to a girl why she should like you and you’ll get to know her over …
/r/seduction02/04/21 12:09 AM
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Complete Bullshit 💯 . When they really want you they are willing to take that risk. They believe they have the vagina that can lock you down and they’ll be the girl A guy changes for. When they see you as high value enough and like you enough they are willing to risk you walking away after for even a chance at getting you and keeping you. This is why so many women complain about a certain type of guy and they still line up when it’s their chance to date them. Bottom line when they like a guy and…
/r/seduction24/03/21 02:32 AM
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This line of thinking is vagina repellent.
/r/seduction23/03/21 06:56 PM
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L shape is best so a square table. It’s not weird cuz you ain’t sitting next to her on first date at a booth. You can easily make eye contact but it’s also not weird to not look at her the entire time. It’s also easy to initiate touch
/r/seduction19/02/21 02:38 AM
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Yeah it’s a like a broken map of the world. They do a lot of the covert contracts and many become jaded and bitter when they get passed up over and over and over. They put others needs above their own and are always let down when the other puts their own needs above the nice guys. They also seem to cling to this idea they’re morally superior or something. Like they won’t change because they are doing the right thing. I think it’s a message they get from tv and movies and believe that they are th…
/r/seduction08/01/21 04:14 PM
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It’s not a simple one or the other but that’s something I’ve seen a lot was a guy who simply didn’t want to go out of his way for the girl at the party was dubbed an asshole and then the nice guy was baffled why the girl was hooking. Up with the guy who said no to running her errands when the nice guy went outA his way to do them.
/r/seduction08/01/21 03:35 PM
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A lot of the time the guy who’s called a “jerk” or “asshole” is just a guy who doesn’t agree or go along with whatever the girl wants. It usually comes up more in social circles than 1 on 1 when it’s like this but the girl or girls in the group want something and the guy who says no or doesn’t give them what they want is considered an asshole or jerk by either the girls or the nice guys in the group. The nice guys are really working off the wrong instruction manual. They are operating their whol…
/r/seduction08/01/21 09:18 AM
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Waste of time
/r/seduction27/12/20 07:15 PM
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Mindset won’t guarantee you get a hot girl it will guarantee you don’t get one.. Black pulled men are a waste of time talking too. I’ve spoken to enough of them and read enough. I offered to help for free and got a whole bunch of suicide jokes and told any self improvement is a waste of time . I was projecting with the details I went into but t’s not projecting when it’s the way they are defeated. Your choosing to be a virgin. The reason I dislike the black pill is cuz it pulls teenagers into it…
/r/seduction27/12/20 08:36 AM
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If your black pilled you already lost cuZ it’s a mindset that it’s over for you. Therefore it’s over for you. The girls already aren’t making it easy for you and you accepted defeat at 19. That community is the most depressing mindset and ideas I’ve ever seen. Everyone talking about suicide. Complaining about women not wanting them. I helped a 26 year old virgin who was Indian get laid in about 4 months. I offered to help for free 2 people from that community and all I got was the most depressin…
/r/seduction27/12/20 06:16 AM
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That’s pretty bleak..... If you don’t go to the gym and take care of yourself the best you can and make active attempts to get at least decent looking girls. You mix not doing that stuff with the mindset you have then you your gonna be a virgin unless you pay. Sex really isn’t all that big a deal once you’ve had it. It feels fucking awesome but once you’ve got it a bunch it’s not as big a deal. I do know that not accomplishing getting laid for yourself while the girls are less experienced is onl…
/r/seduction27/12/20 05:54 AM
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That’s one way game works for some guys is they say the things a guy with options would say and once they get a few girls they become the guy with options. It’s sorta a fake it till you make it type thing. Again you gotta be at least a 5 to have the chance to raise her attraction. A lot of guys start at 5 and they do some weak or needy shit that bumps them down to a 4 and then they’re no longer a potential sexual partner to her anymore
/r/seduction27/12/20 05:21 AM
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Almost Equal to looks is balls. I don’t know when I got laid it was between 17-18 that’s when most guy I knew actually got laid was between 17-20. Most of the other guys were lying. They lied about not being virgins and everyone had 9 inch dicks.........lol You have to go for it with women....... If your past the “party” age where people hook up at parties then you gotta ask girls out for chill dates and if a girl goes on a date with you it means she 90% sees you as a potential sexual partner bu…
/r/seduction27/12/20 05:16 AM
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Think of it like yes, no and maybes. Most guys fall in the maybe category for most girls. If she finds you ugly then your not gonna get her. The tricky part is that different girls have different tastes and you gonna be confident and comfortable enough facing rejection from the ones who don’t want you so when you meet the one who does see you as her type you went for it and got her. Imo game is about capitalizing on any opportunity you do get. Some guys it’s effortless and some guys it seems imp…
/r/seduction27/12/20 05:04 AM
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I’m not saying ugly dudes are gonna be pulling girls like that. Game just helps you get girls that are maybes. It’s not gonna turn no’s around. Game isn’t just what you say it’s in what you do as well. How often you choose to text her or how often you set dates. There’s not one specific and only way to get girls. I’ve got girls using zero game and being clear and upfront about liking the girls. I just lost way more doing that and rarely got the girls I really wanted using that approach. Cocky fu…
/r/seduction27/12/20 04:23 AM
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Not exactly . Game works if your a maybe to her. It helps raise her attraction for you as you sub communicate that your a high value guy with options. It’s not magic. It more helps lock in attraction with a girl. If you don’t make her cut physically she won’t really give you the chance to game her. When a girl find you attractive and you act cocky she likes it and finds it funny. If you act cocky when she doesn’t find you attractive she sees you as arrogant and full of yourself. Physical attract…
/r/seduction27/12/20 03:51 AM
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Speak in if’s and maybes. If she brings up doing something like bowling or arcade when you with her don’t jump all over it like you wanna do anything she wants and are dying to take her out again Instead speak in ifs and maybes If we decide to hangout again maybe we can do that.... If after the date she says she had a great time don’t tell her I had great time too..... Instead say something more like “yeah you were aight......😂” Make sure you use emojis to set tone so she knows your teasing her …
/r/seduction27/12/20 02:47 AM
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I agree with this. Game techniques help sub communicate that your a high value guy with options. Good Game will help you get the girls who are maybe but won’t turn a no to a yes It’s sold like it’s magic but a lot of it is using social proof and pre selection to raise your number. A girl who sees a guy alone at a bar and rates him a 4 if she sees the same guy with another hot girl on his arm she might see him as a 5.5 and now he has a chance. If you read the game they basically created the illus…
/r/seduction27/12/20 02:38 AM
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Looks get your foot in the door with more women. She’s gotta at least see you as a 5 or higher to have a shot. Where you fall is based on the individual girl and her idea of what an attractive man is.
/r/seduction27/12/20 02:32 AM
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Either that or just look at her eyes lips eyes lips and if she does the same she almost definitely wants you to kiss her. I would recommend kissing her sooner than later. I don’t know to much about your interactions but I know if you act plutonic you get plutonic results. Also a kiss isn’t that big a deal and a lot of girls will kiss you at the end of a date almost outA social obligation. Like the date went pretty good and she liked you enough to kiss you but she didn’t feel enough of a spark to…
/r/seduction27/12/20 02:29 AM
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Looks definitely matter. You gotta at least make her physical cut from the start or your wasting your time. If she’s a maybe is when you can turn it around. There’s yes, maybes and no. If your looks aren’t above a 5 to her she won’t give you the chance to game her. Which girls your 5 and up with us based on the girl and her he men she’s used to getting. If she’s a model type a guy who’s like an 8 to most girls might be a 5 to her and now he’s just a maybe to her and tight game can raise his attr…
/r/seduction23/12/20 11:22 AM
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Nothing is cheating in game. Game itself is technically cheating if you wanna think of it like that. Use whatever means you can. From my experience game works but not the way it’s sold. It’s not magic and won’t get a guy who’s a 2 girls who are 10s. Most of game from mystery method was really built off social proof and pre selection. You could say using pre selection is cheating as well...... Game helps get the girls who view you as just making her cut. Pre selection and social proof opens the d…
/r/seduction22/12/20 04:53 PM
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I think they do this cuz they were never able to approach girls the way they wanted to. People would rather you stay single or maybe get an average gf. A lot of people want to keep you in this nice little box where they have you all figured out. You stepping outside your comfort zone triggers their ego and they get defensively offensive towards you because your surpassing them or potentially surpassing them. If a friend had “the hot girlfriend” in the group but she isn’t actually all that hot. S…
/r/seduction22/12/20 03:50 PM
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Just start giving people shit, men and women in a way that they know your joking. Like if a girl asks you to get her a beer and you’d usually get it. Instead of doing that give her shit for being so lazy (let her know your having fun with your tone) If you do get it for her you’ll trade for a shoulder rub. If your looking for an easy way that you can still treat people well but also be a bit of dick this will work. A little Cocky funny works well too. It’s like you don’t take yourself to serious…
/r/seduction15/12/20 01:35 AM
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This is not what you want to do if you want options with women. If you act plutonic you’ll most likely get plutonic results, If your being friends with her as a way to get her to like you and let her guard down good luck...... If your trying to prove to her that your a great guy good luck....... The only times being friends first really works is if your friendly with girl and more friends by associating so your not calling her every day or trying to hang out with her as “friends” when you secret…
/r/seduction29/11/20 08:20 PM
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Most of the time the “asshole” is just a guy who puts himself first and that’s the guy women are attracted to. The best she can be is the number one girl in his life but she’ll never be number overall cuz he’s already in that position. Since he’s number one he is gonna look out for his best Interest first and foremost. A lot of times these guys were also pretty clear in their intentions from the start and she agreed to keep sleeping with him thinking he’s change for her. your at a party and you …
/r/seduction29/11/20 08:13 PM
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Fake it till you make it works well if you do have any girls interested at start and act like you do by not texting her all day everyday and not being over eager. Act like you have options and be patient before you know it you got that first girl and a new one interested and now you are a guy with options.
/r/seduction19/11/20 01:51 AM
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Imo you shouldn’t ask cliche questions at all. No small talk or cliche shit. I feel like as soon as you open your mouth and say so you come here often? Unless she finds you really hot you automatically get subconsciously filtered in the category of guys she’s not interested in who don’t know what to say or talk with women so they say the shit they think they are supposed to say. To o.p. Point you don’t want to go into interview mode during approach or on a date. Even on a date why learn her life…
/r/seduction28/10/20 05:49 PM
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It usually goes sex first and after a month or two she’ll start looking for exclusivity if that’s what she wants. A lot of it depends on how you act too. If your acting plutonic on dates you’ll get plutonic results and won’t see her again. If you act like a boyfriend on every date and she likes you sexually as well she’ll most likely start seeing you like that after a month or two. Best thing to do is be clear about what you want. If you in no way want a relationship then let her know at some po…
/r/seduction22/10/20 05:12 PM
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You want to focus on channeling that fun energy through a more masculine frame. Probably dial your energy back to 75% if 100% has you acting goofy and not at all sexy.
/r/seduction22/10/20 02:34 AM
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I def think the definition of independent makes a difference too. In the u.s. most men want a girl who does something for work. We don’t reLly care if she’s a cashier and don’t make much but most men I know don’t want to date someone who they are signing up for taking care of her 100% she pulls have to be really really fucking hot and cool.
/r/seduction02/10/20 07:09 PM
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Well that’s what I was saying if independent means being able to take care of herself I’ve never met a guy intimidated by that and I’ve worked with thousands of guys on job sites who I got to know well enough. If independent is an I don’t need no man attitude it can be a turn off because shes more likely to bring a whole bunch of bullshit into a relationship that’s already hard enough as is. If there’s guys genuinely intimidated by her bein YB independent and living on her they probably aren’t l…
/r/seduction02/10/20 07:07 PM
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Your always gonna validate them no matter what just by asking her out is some level of validation. You just don’t wanna over validate her. Don’t validate her her with time and attention if she’s not committing to making plans
/r/seduction02/10/20 07:03 PM
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Your not playing games of who called who and shit she’s ignoring you. If she’s making plans but ignored your texts then who gives a fuck. Def still back off on texting though. You saw her 4 times in 3 weeks was potentially 1 time to many. If she makes plans with you make the plans sleep with her and then back off a bit wait a few days to call her to set new plans. I’f she reaches out to you respond to her texts. You only wanna ignore her texts when she’s not making plans or flaking on dates and …
/r/seduction02/10/20 07:40 AM
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Wait a full 3 weeks - month and hit her up again. If she messagess you before then respond to her and set plans. The reason you lost her in the first place was probably from over texting and being to available.
/r/seduction02/10/20 07:35 AM
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Assume she’s not. If she’s out in person on a date with you she’s not seeking your validation. Unless she’s on the date and keeps meeting you for dates but won’t kiss you. Most of the time men are the reasons women use them for validation. Some girls will do this but they usually won’t meet a guy in real life they’ll just text him or keep him at arms length only hanging with him in social situations. Just don’t compliment her unless she’s earned compliments. Don’t kiss her ass and don’t over com…
/r/seduction02/10/20 03:40 AM
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I’m surprised she gave you that advice because they usually give mainstream cliche shit that don’t work. The best thing I could say is be indifferently interested. So your obviously interested since your talking to her but you don’t let on how much and and only really text her with a purpose of getting her on a date. If she reaches out to you respond to her ( as long as she’s doing what she says she’s gonna and showing up for dates) Just don’t chase her. You’ll have to persue women a bit in the …
/r/seduction02/10/20 03:34 AM
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There’s an overall push pull of a conversation, relationship and you can run a push pull in a single sentence m. “Do you ever stop talking? Your lucky your cute” Would be a push pull in a sentence. It can be light and playful as if you picture it sounds like flirting. Basically most game technique is like systematic flirting for guys who don’t know where to start. A push pull could also be a pull push If your teasing her let her know. A lot of game is in the delivery more than what you say. It’s…
/r/seduction02/10/20 03:29 AM
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Take it easy lol I was just informing you the kinds of people your dealing with in this subreddit. I don’t care who you date and everybody dates the highest quality person they can. I’m just letting you know why a lot of guys are responding to your posts the way they are........ It’s like an (at least your in the game) type of thing your getting. Basically it’s on men to figure out what they need to do to get into that too 20% of men. dating is difficult for many men and women and unfortunately …
/r/seduction02/10/20 03:21 AM
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I don’t believe many men are intimidated by a girl being independent. I think that’s some bullshit women tell themselves to feel better. Many men are intimidated by a really attractive girl. Guys are def turned off by a girl preaching her independence and all that. There’s a difference between being intimidated and turned off by something. It depends how she presents it but if she’s quoting cliche shit you hear from daytime talk show women or bringing an I don’t need no man attitude it can be a …
/r/seduction02/10/20 03:13 AM
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Problem is for guys until they experience it they can’t comprehend it. I remember before I got a 10 believing getting a 10 was the most important thing in the world. It was awesome and fun and the sex was great especially with the first one but once I had it I was able to focus on other shit easier. It becomes like a mental roadblock that a lot of men just seem to be stuck on since it is a huge part of our biology and one of our bodies primary function.
/r/seduction02/10/20 03:04 AM
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I don’t know what your talking about specifically lol. Most of the men on here have had little to no success with women or went from little to none to a lot of success and are tryna help others. That’s why your catching a lot of crap for some of your posts. Probably 80% of men have little to no options so they don’t have much patience for a girl saying she loses guys too. They’re thought process is they don’t even get the chance and she’s complaining she gets ghosted by the top 10% of men. Just …
/r/seduction02/10/20 02:55 AM
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How stuff ain’t so much pickup but the general principles that maintain women’s attraction long term apply to attraction short term. The only thing I really feel differently about is first dates. I don’t like the whole ask a lot of questions thing and had much better success when I was more sexually aggressive from the start and only asked questions that came up naturally or led to sexual talk. I do ask what it’s like where they grew up, what they’re passionate about and what they do for work or…
/r/seduction02/10/20 02:34 AM
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Be playful, tease then a bit and run push pulls on them. Your gonna see them again so your probably better playing a long game with them. You can get their numbers sooner than later if you want but you don’t want to be the guy who gets rejected at work and then all the girls reject you cuz they don’t want the guy no other girls want. That being said don’t be afraid to go for something you want either cuz you definitely won’t get the girl that way but since you’ll be seeing them hen regularly you…
/r/seduction02/10/20 02:15 AM
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Read my posts I guarantee that’s what your problem was being overly respectful and coming across as plutonic. I did the same shit in my early 20s so I’ve seen a lot of this before. Good luck
/r/seduction02/10/20 02:03 AM
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It’s most likely he just acted plutonic on the date and overly respectful. Then she no longer viewed him as a potential sexual partner and moved on. So it probably was someone else but he lost her on the first date.
/r/seduction02/10/20 02:02 AM
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Yeah I don’t agree that makes a guy a dog, nobody else is gonna put his needs first or get them met. That line of thinking is straight out of tv and movie bullshit as well lol Nobodies needs should be above your own unless you have young children.
/r/seduction02/10/20 01:59 AM
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Like 1/3 messages be playful and challenging in your conversation.Don’t over text her and don’t engage in a lot of boring small talk. If you act plutonic you’ll get plutonic results. I don’t exactly understand your situation your in but I can tell you being a cocky while not taking yourself to seriously goes a long way with attracting girls. So like if you say some super cocky shit almost laugh about how ridiculous it was but you still said it so there’s some truth to it. If she tries to challen…
/r/seduction02/10/20 01:32 AM
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That’s from all the bullshit tv and movies show all the time that you can wear a girl down 😂😂
/r/seduction02/10/20 01:26 AM
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You were initially a potential sexual partner and she no longer views you like that. You probably acted plutonic on the date by being overly respectful and not making the date sexual or seductive at all. A girl will sleep with a guy they don’t want to date but will not date a guy they don’t want to sleep with. Even if you don’t sleep with her on the first date she has to want to after it’s over. You were probably also a little needy and showing to much interest in her. That worked when she was a…
/r/seduction02/10/20 01:26 AM
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Start flirting with her,Tease her, start touching her on her hand or arm a little lock eyes with her from time to time. Eyes lips are yes lips works well before a kiss.
/r/seduction02/10/20 01:15 AM
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Is this a girlfriend, girl your dating or girl you just met? She’s just making a dumb small talk joke like to late I already worked to hard. I stay away from small talk at all costs ,especially in the very beginning. In my opinion The whole I hope you didn’t work to hard text reads like a guy being way to nice and caring. Unless she’s your girlfriend I wouldn’t write texts like that anymore. Like if she’s sick don’t check in on how she’s feeling before you even had a first date. To the to late t…
/r/seduction02/10/20 01:13 AM
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Don’t explain yourself to her unless she directly asks what you were doing.
/r/seduction02/10/20 01:04 AM
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The present creates the futures past so get on it ASAP! Procrastinating is how years go by and you look back and realized everything’s the same. You gotta take action now not tomorrow and in a few years time you’ll look back and have taken action.
/r/seduction02/10/20 01:02 AM
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If she dumps her emotional baggage on you once in a while will happen. You don’t want her to dump her emotional baggage on you since your not her therapist. If she does once in a while and your in a relationship is okay just listen and don’t try to solve her problems unless she asks for your opinion on it. Chances are she just wants to vent If she’s just seeking validation from you you’ll know when she only wants to talk when she wants to talk and doesn’t ever seem to wanna meet or do anything i…
/r/seduction02/10/20 12:58 AM
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The closest thing you’ll find to what I’m saying is the book how to be a 3% man by Corey Wayne. Most of what he says is pretty damn accurate. I learned most of this stuff myself through trial and error over years of a lot of dating. The main thing I learned was you are wasting your time trying to get to know each other on a date. You’ll get to know her over the course of dating. You can’t get her as a girlfriend if she doesn’t see you as a potential sexual partner. Even if you want a girlfriend …
/r/seduction23/09/20 03:10 PM
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Just acting indifferently interested won’t just get you tens. If a ten is interested it will help keep her interested in you. Attraction isn’t something she gets to choose so you get compared to the guys she’s used to dating. If you want tens you gotta have high status, looks, confidence, style,money and good game. The less you are in looks and status the more you gotta be confident and and have great game. Ive had 9’s and 10s but I want to be clear that you have to have a lot to offer her as we…
/r/seduction23/09/20 03:00 PM
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Basically make your texts fun and. Challenging while keep the general vibe man to woman. If someone was reading your text conversations you would wAnt them to be able to tell this is a man and woman flirting. If you can’t tell that your relying on your looks to an extreme. You’d be relying on your looks to the point she’d have to have made up her mind based on your look that she definitely wants to fuck you for her to not see things as more plutonic in nature. An easy rule of thumb could be 1/3 …
/r/seduction21/09/20 11:22 PM
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Well it’s not that you can’t ask any questions at all you just don’t want to interview her. Just go have fun, flirt with her and seduce her
/r/seduction05/09/20 06:47 PM
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Which one
/r/seduction03/09/20 09:16 PM
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Another thing is you don’t have to get to know a girls life story to set a date or sleep with her. If you want to continue seeing her your probably better off getting to know a little about each other so she don’t feel like she made a mistake sleeping with you out of impulse. I’m just saying you don’t have to know what kind of music she likes or movies she likes right away. When you know your gonna see the girl again you know you’ll get to know her over the course of dating and don’t have to try…
/r/seduction03/09/20 02:30 PM
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What’s crazy is something like only 15 % of men are over 6’ tall in the u.s. In my opinion if your a guy who’s close Luke 510 and over you should just lie and say your 6’ because I’m 6’-6’1” depending on my shoes and almost every girl I’ve met online was like “wow your really tall, like taller than I expected” I don’t think most girls know what 6’ actually looks like but they think we’ll I’m 5 something and I want my guy to be taller so the next number up is 6....... yeah that’s what I want and …
/r/seduction03/09/20 02:27 PM
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any small talk is gonna come off as plutonic unless she thinks your really hot (then she might start laughing at things that aren’t even attempted Jokes) If your asking questions as your strategy to talk with a girl. Let say you reach the comfort stage wi tv a woman don’t just keep asking. Her question after question cuz it sounds like an interview and bores them to death. Maybe ask some questions and some statements about her so your switching things up. Also 1/3 questions you ask her maybe you…
/r/seduction03/09/20 02:15 PM
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Okay so that’s not much of a joke that sounds like someone who doesn’t know what to say and is tryna make a joke. You be better off saying your short and smiling
/r/seduction02/09/20 10:43 PM
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3 second ish
/r/seduction02/09/20 09:54 PM
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If she says no to hug she’s probably not interested in you as a boyfriend. Her hugging you doesn’t guarantee she interested but your def still in the game. If she says no which I doubt she will just Bellamy it cool maybe say okay no more hugs for you either and smile
/r/seduction02/09/20 09:48 PM
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Say hey and come here... verbally invite her to hug you
/r/seduction02/09/20 09:41 PM
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You could say hey at the same time or first and open your arms for a hug. It’s relative to how confident you are doing this. You’ve been talking for months so if your comfortable and confident doing it she’ll like it and follow your lead. You won’t know until you start making advances on her and see how she reacts. That’s why I’m saying act like you know she wants you I matter what. Even if she says something discouraging assume it’s a test , remain calm and centered and stand by what you said
/r/seduction02/09/20 09:13 PM
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You’ve been talking to this girls probably everyday. I’m assuming you knew eachother before this but either way it don’t matter. When I say hug I mean a real hug not an obligation hug. Give her a hug and you could even say I know you were dying to hug me I could tell I get it...... She may say you were dying to hug me.......... You say ehhhh.......... I think we both know who’s wanted to hug who......” Speak in ifs and maybes so if we get together maybe we can do this. If you want to hang out wi…
/r/seduction02/09/20 09:10 PM
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No
/r/seduction02/09/20 09:07 PM
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So if she already friendzoned you you won’t be able to raise her attraction without getting a different girl or other girls all start to like you. I would start be giving her a real hug when you see her and not an ass out friend side hug. Tell her you matched your socks off it’s your eyes and when she looks you up and down say “hey I see you checking me out. Your looking at me like a sexy snack and sorta laugh to yourself or smile” Don’t use this as a pickup line cuz they don’t work very good bu…
/r/seduction02/09/20 09:04 PM
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Well for start act like she wants you and you know it. You could Tease her about it and how when she sees you again for first time she’s gonna have to try to maintain her composure since she’s obviously dying to makeout with you😉😂 I would write something like that with them two emojis. 😂😘👨👨🤼‍♂️🤔😷💯💯😄😷 that means nothibg. Two emojis after a text max and only to set tone or th eh won’t mean anything or have value. No 😘😍or random smiley faces for no reason either. You want to remain indifferently in…
/r/seduction02/09/20 08:56 PM
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Okay at 16 things change a bit but she still has to want to kiss you at least for you to get her as a girlfriend which I’m assuming is what you want. Chasing girls is bad and always being. The one initiating means your chasing her. Don’t text her a day or two and see if she reaches out to you. If she doesn’t she’s pretty low interest but you could potentially raise it if she views you as at least. A5/10 and your not friendzoned already you’d just have to do a lot of things different than you e b…
/r/seduction02/09/20 08:38 PM
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That’s what I’m saying is if you’ve been acting like her friends or business colleagues that’s what you’ll get with her so don’t do that!
/r/seduction02/09/20 08:35 PM
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Yeah so if you act like her friend or business colleagues your gonna get them results. Unless she just finds you really hot and makes it easy for you in which case she’d probably be flirting with a lot more. Are you always the one initiating texts? Does she initiate ever? Have any of your conversations been remotely sexual at all?
/r/seduction02/09/20 08:27 PM
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Basically just act like you’ve know her a while. Are you conversations plutonic or man to woman? What I’m asking is if someone read your conversation with her would they be able to tell ypur a man and she’s a woman or that theirs some chemistry going on? Are you texting her like a business associate?
/r/seduction02/09/20 08:08 PM
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Dating apps suck but it doesn’t hurt to use them in conjunction with real life approaches. It’s better to not rely on it though, use it as a tool to meet girls you might not cross paths with otherwise. Strategy is get her number and set a date on the first night of texting. If she tries to change the date cancel it cuZ she’s gonna flake anyway. Wait a week and ask again. If she says I wanna get to know you better first wait 3 -5 days ask when she’s free for drinks again if she doesn’t set a date…
/r/seduction02/09/20 01:24 AM
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How old are you? If your past 21 wait till you’ve slept with her. Or right before your gonna sleep with her like she’s sitting in your arms on the couch and your holding one of her hands before you make a move. I wait for this because as weird as it sounds hand holding can be more intimate than kissing in a weird way. If a girls holding my hand with finger interlocked I’ve never had a single one reject sex. I have been rejected for sex by girls I’ve already kissed and they just didn’t want to go…
/r/seduction02/09/20 01:03 AM
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If I had to guess your behaviors ay communicate things you don’t want to them. If they are cheating on you they aren’t afraid to lose you and don’t totally respect you. Your probably being way to nice and eating shit from them (this can be very subtle too and wear away at them over years) You can’t tolerate any bullshit from the start. Your probably tolerating a lot of shut you shouldn’t be and when you do that they begin to lose respect for you and push harder. They’ll keep pushing your boundar…
/r/seduction02/09/20 01:02 AM
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There’s a guy who believes his value is in what he can do for the girl or give to her. And the guy who believes his value is in his presence and way he makes her feel. When women view you as the second type they won’t settle on dating you. You’ll be her top choice and she’ll be excited as fuck to spend time with you. She’ll want sex all the time and you’ll rarely if ever get the cold distant or bitchy attitude for no reason.
/r/seduction02/09/20 12:52 AM
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Game is not magic but it will help you get more girls who you’d otherwise lose. They gotta view you as at least a 510 for you to even have a shot at gaming them. Game will help get you the girls who your just making their cut but isn’t magic. If you read the book the game by Neil Strauss notice that they were renting lumps and going out like 7 nights a week while renting a mansion later. They created a status and social proof that made women who might view them as less than a 5 view them as a5 t…
/r/seduction01/09/20 02:18 AM
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Next time aside from maki big sure your cars in order and being the leader so your the one getting a ride back if necessary don’t tell a woman how you feel. You can’t explain to her that she should like you. No matter how much you like her won’t make her like you back either. Most people that were “friends” first or met through a friend group you’ll hear them say “it just kinda happened....” Your much better off just making a move and see what happens. You might still get rejected but at least s…
/r/seduction01/09/20 01:52 AM
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Don’t small talk either, small talk kills attraction. Unless she’s so physically attracted to you that you can’t fuck up if shes medium interest or your just making her cut you’ll lose her with small talk. Any cliche soooo you come here often type stuff is gonna lose a lot of girlS. If you were the guy all the really hot girls just thought you were hot and made it easy for you you’d definitely know and wouldn’t be on reddit. If you look at anyone with good game wether it’s learned or natural the…
/r/seduction01/09/20 01:39 AM
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My message is long but worth reading cuz while the ignoring thing is def the right move if the girl isn’t putting in her share of effort I know more than a few guys who took it to far when it worked they sorta misinterpreted things and tried to manipulate the girl into wanting them by ignoring her and it ended up just pissing her off over time and she ended up fucking and dating their friends or coworkers or random other guy who was giving her just the right amount of attention. You can’t contro…
/r/seduction05/08/20 11:37 PM
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Once you start seeing her again in real life, I would recommend that if she’s showing up for dates and doing what she says and putting in effort responding to her texts. Ignoring her messages when she lost interest and was flaky was def good but if she’s hot has a lot of options and a decent self esteem she’ll get pissed at be ignored at some point. If she’s not putting in effort and not meeting irl then def don’t give her your time on text. If however you like the girl and wAnna keep dating her…
/r/seduction05/08/20 11:15 PM
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Yes unless your not kissing her as a seduction tactic to keep her guessing which works for some guys you should be making a move on the first date even the guys who don’t kiss on the first date kiss and go for sex on second
/r/seduction31/07/20 08:10 PM
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Good job approaching try not doing small talk next time. You’ll probably end up asking a question at some point but any small talk doesn’t build report and doesn’t attract women unless they think your hot from the start. If your just making her cut or someone she’d consider dating small talk rarely goes anywhere. Aside from that approaching is always better than not approaching so that’s awesome!
/r/seduction26/07/20 09:55 PM
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Well I don’t think you kissing a girl in a parking lot or at a restaurant where tons of people are sitting (like if it’s not packed) but even then people aren’t paying attention to you and if you think they are it’s in your head. I’m not saying you have to makeout with the girl in the booth but if you were to kiss her at the table and show some balls you’d be boss. Also unless reputation is directly gonna affect your job like you’d get fired for it I wouldn’t worry about what others think. In 10…
/r/seduction14/07/20 04:41 PM
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It’s like you should read that book and see what happens applying it. In my experience unless they are not looking for dating or a relationship and only want a one night stand. the girls who sleep with you on first date will still typically reach out after a few days or respond when I call. Once in a while I’ll lose one but a lot of it has to do with how you present yourself on the date. You can be the seducer who she also wants to keep seeing. You can also put off the vibe of the total player w…
/r/seduction14/07/20 04:04 AM
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Do you go for kiss on first date? Do you try to take them home? Have you slept with these girls before they ended it? It sounds like your nerves get the best of you. There’s a big difference between the strong silent type and the guy who’s shy or nervous. On the date you don’t have to be the life of the party or try to impress them, that will have the opposite affect but they can tell when you want them and are trying but drawing blanks. Unless they are looking for a guy to take care of them fin…
/r/seduction13/07/20 05:29 PM
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It’s in the details of how you interact with her that says your not high value it don’t believe you are . I would have to knowledge some more details about how things started and how they ended to really tell you what to look out for but when you said girls don’t chase the guy unless he’s above her tells me you view yourself as below her which will affect your behaviors over time.
/r/seduction13/07/20 09:40 AM
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Indifferently interested is basically the idea that obviously your interested cuz you wouldn’t be talking to her , texting her or hanging out with her if you weren’t interested but your not sure how much. You speak in ifs and maybes So if we decide to go out again maybe we can go to that place your talking about. Instead if yeah we can definitely go there. If you show to much interest your not a challenge if your to indifferent to the point you don’t put in any effort and she has a lot of option…
/r/seduction10/07/20 12:05 AM
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I look at most things like a numbers game and the idea that the girls you find fit are the only ones who don’t like your personality and your not compatible with them and only them makes no sense. Not one fit girl likes a strong quiet type guy? All the decent girls you take out like you and are compatible with your personality type...... I would bet money your doing something in your words, body language and behaviors that sub communicating to these fit girls you view them as above you and putti…
/r/seduction09/07/20 04:19 AM
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I’m not a pua tbh, I’m very successful at dating and def have some pickup skills. All I’m saying is you keep saying this is how it is but without trying to make changes to your behavior and approach to dating you won’t get different results. I’m not talking about pickup, if she’s on a date with you then your already halfway there and it’s in your behaviors and attitude that tell her the kind of guy you are. If you tried the behavior changes and did exactly what I suggested I’d say okay I believe…
/r/seduction09/07/20 03:49 AM
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These are all pretty damn spot on. A few details we might disagree on but the key points themselves are all dead accurate and if you follow the behaviors sometimes there’s more than one way to look at it. So I don’t exactly believe in double texting I feel it reads as more needy but I’ve heard some people view it as you act entitled. I could see either approach working and it comes down to personal style and how much abundance you actually have. I would also add NOT SETTING DEFINITE PLANS- accep…
/r/seduction08/07/20 01:06 AM
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Do whatever you like to do. Women respond to the same shit all around the world. Maybe the stuff I tell you to do is opposite of what your culture tells you and maybe that’s why it works so damn well. I’ve said similar shit to what your saying when I was younger and if seen guys from different countries but tons in the u.s. saying the same but different shit everything and everyone else is the problem. Either the Japanese culture is literally so against saying g no that girls will go on dates wi…
/r/seduction07/07/20 08:50 AM
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Okay you’ve had seven years experience not getting the success you want. If your not willing to try something new you’ll keep getting the same results over and over again.. you don’t have to even have the nice guys personality to screw things up. If you told me you tried the behavior changes I would suggest and they don’t respond then maybe your right but ive seen guys from diffe parts of the work have success and all I initially said the same stuff your saying. You have to reach out to them Cuz…
/r/seduction07/07/20 08:13 AM
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I’m gonna say it again instead of trying g something different you keep making excuses why the fit ones don’t want you. I was with a half Japanese girl who was former beauty queen for a while. She was the kind of girl every guy and every girl looks at just walking around in sweat pants and a tank top shirt. Guys would try and buy her shit all the time and offer her fancy dates and shit and I was with her living at my parents house giving her nothin. But my time and presence. It ended cuz she mov…
/r/seduction07/07/20 06:46 AM
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I think you keep missing what I’m trying to say to you. They are definitely losing attraction for you but it’s not your personality. If it were your personality you wouldn’t get the decent ones either. Fit girls and decent girls don’tlike different personalities that varies from girl to girl. I can almost guarantee your behaving in a way that turns them off. I would bet money on it without knowing much about you or what your doing or act around girls. Fit girls have a lot more options so you don…
/r/seduction07/07/20 05:43 AM
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I know because I over cane it. I figured it out through years of trial and error but after reverse engineering the things I was doing that were working and cross referencing that with some very popular dating coaches I realized these behaviors and behavior changes I made were exactly what they were suggesting to do as well. I just learned it through years of trial and error. Small success and then failure and then stuff just started clicking. I notice a huge difference in the way the girls I dat…
/r/seduction07/07/20 05:27 AM
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Yeah so you can be nice to a girl but the why your being move makes a huge difference. If your doing something nice for her cuZ she’s being a good girlfriend and treating. You awesome and your having tons of sex and fun is different than if you being mice as a way to keep her interested. Women can tell the difference based and your behaviors and way you do things surrounding being nice to them. I personally think you may have either read the title or misread the body of post. Basically I was say…
/r/seduction07/07/20 01:05 AM
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Okay that’s sorta a what I pictured I’d do as well. I was just wondering who has had success with this and what they did.
/r/seduction07/07/20 12:55 AM
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I’ve seen plenty of hot girls more attracted to and with strong silent type guys. What makes more sense? Only decent looking girls are attracted to you and just cuz they’re hot they aren’t interested in your personality type. Or your doing something that is turning the fit ones off or doing something that’s making the fit ones lose interest when they may have had it. Girls all respond to the same behaviors. Some will want a more outgoing guy and some will like a more quiet strong guy but at the …
/r/seduction06/07/20 02:27 PM
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Pay attention to the pattern man. After having tons of different types of women I notice they all follow the lead and tone that I set unless they aren’t very interested. Have you whenever vet hooked up with any fit ones? Do they end it with you?
/r/seduction06/07/20 01:34 PM
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YeAh I get what your saying. I’ve dated a lot a lot of women and started from subpar to being really successful and dating. Became easy and fun. I learned that if she really likes you she’ll adjust to your patterns and way you interact really fast. If you start the relationship fun and playful that’s how it will be if she’s really high interest and wants it. If your chill she’ll be chill. If your very sexual she’ll be very sexual. She really has to be comfortable in her feminine energy to take y…
/r/seduction06/07/20 02:25 AM
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I’m highly successful with women I just never am single when I meet someone through social circle. Once I hit 30 I might meet one single attractive girl through social circle every 6-9 months and that don’t mean we’re both single so I never really had to opportunity to work this angle when I was single. I got good with women through trial and error and later realized all the stuff I was doing that was working everytime was stuff that guys had already labeled out. I guess it’s hard to say if it w…
/r/seduction06/07/20 02:05 AM
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Yeah I’m more wondering what people who are single and had or usually get success when they meet another girl. What’s the general approach? Typically if I was do in by cold approach I would most likely start with a false time constraint then ask a question that leads the push pull or pull push on her answer. Then go into a story where I dhv. Tease hear a bit quality and disqualify her accordingly with an overall tone of cocky funny. In a SoCial circle do you start with just acting Like it’s a co…
/r/seduction06/07/20 01:52 AM
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I do like cocky funny as an overall tone.my cocky I realized was like things that are insanely cocky and kinda laughing about it lightly like I’m aware just how ridiculous it was and I’m in on the joke.like one laughing about it but I still said it kinda thing. I sorta reverse engineered what I was doing through trial and error that was getting me success and I learned it was mainly cocky funny. That’s how I found out about seduction community was that I realized the “techniques” I was doing tha…
/r/seduction06/07/20 12:30 AM
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I guess I’m asking what people have had success with. Literally just drive hard assuming she’s wants you and see what happens or play it a little lighter by give attention and positive emotion then remove it give it remove it kinda thing. I haven’t dealt with meeting someone new I liked in a group or barbecue in years. Anyway hung one on one I do very very well and I know how I’d do things if I was stuck in the friendzone or friendly with a girl within my group. I’m more asking about your in you…
/r/seduction05/07/20 11:21 PM
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Cute
/r/seduction05/07/20 09:21 PM
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Yeah you didn’t try to impress her which is like the worst thing. You can do. When I say asshole I was more meaning a scenario I’ve seen a bunch. Girls at a party and your going for beer and coming back and she asks you to go outA your way somewhere for her and you say no cuz you wanna grab beer quick and get back. You leave she calls you an asshole. Then a nice guy offers to take her and drives her to where she wanted and maybe he wasn’t even going out at all. She then ends up fucking and datin…
/r/seduction05/07/20 08:57 PM
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You didn’t even read it 😂😂I can tell cuz you have no idea what I was saying in it. You read a title and ran with it.
/r/seduction05/07/20 08:24 PM
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Your post made absolutely no sense😂😂
/r/seduction05/07/20 04:31 AM
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Your an idiot 😂😂😂😂😂
/r/seduction05/07/20 04:30 AM
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That’s why they call it a game. In my opinion women started the game unintentionally by being extremely incongruent with what they say and do what they say they want and respond to. I don’t blame it all on them cuz they grew up seeing the same bullshit men did on tv and movies but they don’t want to admit that’s not what they actually go for and almost don’t like their bubble being broken of the idea that they want a nice sweet guy who wines dimes and buys them flowers. On some level they may wa…
/r/seduction05/07/20 01:43 AM
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The point of the post was very similar to what you said. I was trying to reach the nice guys who cling to that broken map of the world that treating a girl like a celebrity and duplicating to her will get you the girl you want. I was describing the the majority of guys girls call assholes and nice guys view as assholes are just men who don’t put her on a pedestal or do what she want or give the girl her way just cuz she’s an attractive girl. If a guy is going to a store and a girl asks if she ca…
/r/seduction05/07/20 01:18 AM
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Hahahahaha hat the hell are you talking about? This is the strangest comment I’ve seen by far. Absolutely no context or reference to anything I wrote just a bunch of words placed together with no point.
/r/seduction05/07/20 01:13 AM
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What the hell are you talking about? There’s literally a whole subreddit dedicated to nice guys. Without any terms how do you describe anything?
/r/seduction05/07/20 01:10 AM
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You def didn’t read what I wrote or you put it through your filter and got it all wrong. If your doing small talk isn’t game but it’s a loose term all men use who aren’t even in any kind of pickup community to describe the way they talk with women they want to sleep with or date. Also 9/10 and 1/10 isn’t rating people in my post. This is why I’m assuming you didn’t read it. 3/4 of the people who commented read the title some skimmed a few things and then left a comment that doesn’t even make sen…
/r/seduction05/07/20 01:10 AM
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Did you read the body of the post?
/r/seduction04/07/20 04:44 PM
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Exactly. The term asshole ive heard thrown around at so many men who treat the girl good but don’t just do whatever she says and don’t kiss her ass. I’d say 1/10 are genuinely not the best guys in the world and they often still date that guy over nice guys as well. I wrote this to try and open up the yes of any nice guys clinging to the false narrative that if they are nice and do whatever other want especially women he’ll get the things they want in life. Maybe a few will read and realize befor…
/r/seduction04/07/20 04:43 PM
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Your conveying something to her that says you don’t feel your 100% good enough so she makes it difficult for you. You believe your good enough for the decent chicks so they make it easy for you. If the girls giving you a shot then it’s not your looks it’s your behaviors. It’s also not a personality mismatch she just doesn’t feel comfortable in her feminine energy around you which is what makes her difficult
/r/seduction04/07/20 04:39 PM
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You me just one of those people who reads 3 words and jumps all over something to validate their em ideas. I did the title that way on purpose to see just how many people actually read the body.
/r/seduction03/07/20 05:49 PM
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You didn’t read the post only the title I can tell cuz the body of text is for the nice guys who think assholes are all bad guys when like 9/10 of them are just men who don’t give the girl whatever she wants or put her vice him
/r/seduction03/07/20 05:37 PM
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I’m assuming g he’s some Righteous guy who’s like nice but bad ass or something and obviously they’d choose that guy over a pedi file with a fucked up dick lol It’s generally not that extreme and 1/10 guys they call an asshole doesn’t give a fuck about them at all the other 9 just don’t give her whatever she wants
/r/seduction03/07/20 05:36 PM
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Basically that’s it I wrote this for anyone who’s clinging to that idea of treat her like a celebrity and give her anything g she wants type o fwb Nice guy. Most people who commented here read the title and missed the point. Nice guys and girls call guys assholes when all the dude is often doing is just not supplications to her or go I her her way on something and putting himself first.
/r/seduction03/07/20 05:32 PM
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I don’t know who the guy from Asians creed is
/r/seduction03/07/20 05:27 PM
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My point is an ashoke is often nice to o the girl he’s just doesn’t give the girl her way.
/r/seduction03/07/20 05:26 PM
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Maybe you realized this before my post either way awesome! Your the kinda guys I was tryna reach with this. So many guys have that broken map of the world and many know that nice guys don’t get the girl but still cling to that map no matter what. It’s like a moral superiority for being nice and everyone else is wrong. Either way they still don’t get what they want in the end and most of the time the asshole is just a guy who doesn’t cater to women, duplicate to them or put her on a pedestal.
/r/seduction03/07/20 04:45 PM
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Your like 1/100 that means if there’s 100 nice guys 1 gets you so 99 are the ones on r/nice guys and that’s assuming your actually telling the truth and dated them and they were the guys you had sexual relationships wit. Tons of girls like nice guys in theory and may even think their cute in a way but when it comes time for a romantic relationship and sex they usually don’t have any interest. I’m not just making this up either I’m tryna get the nice guys to see there’s a better way to do things.…
/r/seduction03/07/20 04:41 PM
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More like attitude or money. Looks help you get your foot in. The door but I look relatively the same as I did years ago and I in the same shape and it’s like a night and day difference in the way the girls act. You don’t get that random distant shit or a bitchy attitude randomly. I haven’t seen that stuff in years tbh and it’s like even if you do see a touch of it when you believe your bvalue is in your time and presence your not gonna waste your time arguing with her or chasing her when she’s …
/r/seduction03/07/20 04:34 PM
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I call bullshit lol you might not want the 1/10 who flakes on you and doesn’t give a fuck about you. I guarantee fucking tee your more interested than the 9/10 who just don’t give you what you want and don’t put you on a pedestal. Women are the worst people to take advice from on dating because they often aren’t honest about the guys they actually respond to and date. Logically they want a guy who puts her as number one and tests her like a celebrity but she just doesn’t respond to that guy and …
/r/seduction03/07/20 04:29 PM
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My whole point was that 9/10 assholes are just guys who don’t give a woman whatever she wants and agree with it’s her on everything. 1/10 are actually not the nicest people. I wrote that post to hopefully reach some nice guy types who are clinging to the false narrative and wondering why year after year they never get the girl or things they want in life. There’s literally a whole sub reddit dedicated to these guys and they’re just the ones who’ve grown bitter and resentful. There’s millions who…
/r/seduction03/07/20 04:16 PM
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You your always providing something and she’s providing something as well but there’s a huge difference in how she acts and treats you depending on what your providing her. Are you providing her with good feelings fun and sex?
/r/seduction03/07/20 11:08 AM
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You absolutely can. It’s in the way they view you from the start. Even within the confines of an exclusive relationship the girl wants sex all the time and doesn’t act the way she does to the guy who provides her with things. She just wants to be with him cuz he’s fun and she feels feminine and horny around him.
/r/seduction03/07/20 11:05 AM
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You obviously didn’t read my post and your totally full of shit😂😂😂women don’t say they don’t want a nice guy they all say they want one and go for an asshole. If you actually read the body of the post the point was that when women call a guy an asshole 9/10 times he’s just a guy that doesn’t supinate to her and give her whatever she wants. Basically he’s a challenge and doesn’t just give the girl her way
/r/seduction03/07/20 11:02 AM
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You’ll have trouble finding that cuz it’s not very good for a mainstream scientist, sociologist or psychologists to discuss this stuff in a way that doesn’t fit the super liberal narrative. I think they now teach physiologists that basically all the traits that make men attractive to women like assertively,stoicism , competitiveness is all toxic masculinity. I can tell you with no agenda that the stuff does work. Assume it’s cuz they all want to be with the top guy. Maybe they want the top guy a…
/r/seduction03/07/20 04:25 AM
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I had a few girls invite me over o first date. I remember inviting them over calling hone to make sure I could have the basement or whatever to myself and anytime I couldn’t get it cuZ someone was already there she was excited to keep hanging already agreed to it and offered me to to come over her place. I could see straight up inviting yourself to her place working too. In my opinion it depends how well the date went. You’ll def lose some of the girls who were medium interest but you coulda got…
/r/seduction03/07/20 03:49 AM
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Would your parents care? Most girls will be willing to go to your parents house even if they’re home obviously you have have a spot in the house where your alone and won’t be bothered. The only suggestion is to consider not bringing hone tone of random girls if your living at hone and have to stay there for the time being. You’ll wear out your welcome real fast with your parents if your bring hone a new girl every week but if you have 1 regularly coming over they might not care. At least that’s …
/r/seduction03/07/20 03:44 AM
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It’s because of your small talk. Small talk kills attraction and will not get a girl interested in you. Your relying on your looks and she might think your attractive enough to give her number to but she wasn’t hoping you’d call Also try messaging them Sunday night or Monday night as they had another weekend without meeting a guy they like and are usually free. Sunday night is the highest traffic for online dating for a reason. Also it helps if you can build just a touch of comfort via text befo…
/r/seduction03/07/20 02:27 AM
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I was just gonna say that. Don’t discuss the second date on the first date unless she bring it up and if she does your better off making a definitive plan or playing like well we’ll see in a obviously playful tone. Also next time tell her to text you when she gets home safe and let her say she had a great time and all that. It’s the first step in getting her doing initiating after the first date. You can also gauge her interest level by that. If she don’t text you at all the date probably didn’t…
/r/seduction03/07/20 02:24 AM
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The way game strategies work for men is they yield results that would take years of trial and error to learn and obtain. There’s two types of confidence the confidence to take risks and don’t mind failing cuz you know you’ll get the next one and competent confidence where the the person has succeeded before and deep down believes they can succeed again. The problem is when a guy has low confidence he can’t just obtain it without doing anything. There’s plenty of guys with the first kind of confi…
/r/seduction03/07/20 01:48 AM
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Your catching shit but this is the most accurate statements in this post. The only time I’ll share insecurity or anything like that is if it’s something I overcame and it’s a strength or maybe if I’m working on it and it came up in the conversation naturally and I almost got it handled. It’s healthy to talk to someone but don’t do it with women unless you have no romantic interest in them. When they say hey want a guy who’s open to his emotions and feels things it’s all bullshit. They want a guy…
/r/seduction03/07/20 12:53 AM
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It’s def gonna be a lower percentage because the first you match with def like your look enough to have swiped on you. You’ll have a chance with hotter girls than online dating.
/r/seduction01/07/20 09:47 PM
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So like think about condiment small talk call for date she had no reason at All to respond to you u less she thought you were super hot If it’s only been 6 months then your probably not super confident in your approaches. Your confident enough to try but not the competent confidence where you believe you have the girl.
/r/seduction01/07/20 09:45 PM
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The small talk thing only really works when the girl finds you really hot. If your making her cut but she’s not like I wanna fuck this guy right now and you start with boring small talk your blowing yourself out.
/r/seduction01/07/20 09:19 PM
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It takes about a full Year to really embody the stuff but you can see results much sooner than that. So let’s say you start out with a compliment after that I wouldn’t compliment her anymore directly. If you say your really pretty. She’s gonna say thank you and that’s the end of that thread If you say your lucky your sorta cute she’s probably gonna day oh sorta? You yeah just sorta. Problem?? In a challenging but playful she clearly knows your joking tone.
/r/seduction01/07/20 09:18 PM
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I get it you want to date at the most. But causal hooking up with a girl is cool too.
/r/seduction01/07/20 08:28 PM
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I’m referring to anyone who has successfully approached women that I know who weren’t the guy women already flocked to cuZ of his looks. I haven’t seen it work successfully for anyone. It’s tough especially in your cuz didn’t they do a whole expose thing on this? And bust some guy for it? I guess what I’m saying is at some point your gonna have to be a little ballsier and tease her or joke with her to get her. If you act plutonic you’ll get plutonic results. Like I said look up push pull and fal…
/r/seduction01/07/20 04:12 PM
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Keep i. Mind you have to work on yourself as well, especially if you want to keep sleeping with the same girls. Finding a new one every Time isn’t as exciting as you think over time and some girls are gonna be so hot your gonna wanna do it again. You have gotta be at least a 5 in her eyes to have a shot some game technique is designed to help raise your value in her eyes like using pawns and preselection and all that. I guess I’m saying if your look and style ,hair style hasn’t attracted women a…
/r/seduction01/07/20 04:06 PM
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I think the main problem with o.p. Thing for cold approach is they have to want to talk to you and your basically going right into comfort from the start so you relying on your looks alone to generate attraction I don’t like any small talk at all. And any questions I ask are leading them to a funny joke /story or directly related to what we’re talking about and it comes up naturally.
/r/seduction01/07/20 03:56 PM
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One thing I can tell you after watching a few videos is small talk kills attraction. Direct approaches are probably a little better on the street cuz you really gotta get to the point but figure out something other than small talk after. Women love challenging playful banter. Also think about losing sorry for talking to girls.you say sorry sometimes as your first line and it’s like your apologizing for talking to her as if your doing something wrong. After the whole spontaneous you caught my eye…
/r/seduction01/07/20 03:47 PM
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My point is approaching isn’t bad, I can tell why you struggle with women when you get that defensive over someone who’s trying to help make suggestions because people don’t like being videotaped without their knowledge. I get what your doing and what I’m saying is wait to upload the videos where your awkwardly walking around the girls. Let them see some positive interactions at the same time as the negative ones. Your only a creep if they don’t like you, that’s the general concc C ensue many me…
/r/seduction01/07/20 03:28 PM
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Maybe you consider waiting until your a bit better to post it?? Still post the bad ones to show your progression but if the girls want to talk with you would def come across a little better. Women only don’t want to be approached when they don’t want to be approached by a specific guy. When it’s a guy they like they are happy they’re being approached.
/r/seduction01/07/20 03:01 PM
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Well you have to believe dee down that’s where your value is. The next best thing is to learn the behaviors of the guy who believes this and emulate them as closely as you can. At the end of the day either way you can’t be afraid to lose the girl or you almost will def lose her. It will lose out into your behaviors and speech that you don’t feel your good enough for her or that your afraid to lose her and then she’ll lose interest. I would say to embody the behaviors with no experience at all wo…
/r/seduction01/07/20 05:26 AM
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A big thing I learned was that where you believe your value is to a woman is how she will view your value to her and she’ll treat you that way. If you believe your value is in what you can provide for her or do for her she’ll view that as your value and that will be what your relationships established on foundation wise. If you believe your value is in your presence then that’s how she’ll view you. She’ll treat you differently than she would if your value was in what you can do for her. Your kin…
/r/seduction01/07/20 05:22 AM
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Maybe I just recommend playing the odds. Get your first girl and now it’s over with. Decide what your overall goals are. Are you tryna get a steady girl and relationship or date multiple girls. Also things you’ve overcome in your past can be attractive in a sense but you don’t want to be having conversations like that before sex anyway in my opinion. Relationships are fun and playful, that deep stuff will strengthen a connection but scare a lot of women away if you do it before they’re really hi…
/r/seduction01/07/20 05:15 AM
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Indifferently interested High value hold frame That’s all you really have to know and follow. Learn how to behave and phrase things in high value ways never break frame ever until the frame your presenting becomes the frame you are.
/r/seduction01/07/20 04:56 AM
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Talk to em all. Treat them all the same. It’s easier to come up with funny shit interesting things in the beginning.
/r/seduction01/07/20 04:52 AM
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Practice doing a more indirect approach with the overall frame being you thought she looked good but weren’t sure about her. You thought she looked good enough to say hi and then she won you over a little so you asked her out. It should take like 10-15 min you. Wanna tell a sub or interesting story and ask her a few questions and r make a statement or two about her. The conversation has to be fun and she has to want it to keep going but you leave and end it first if you have no intention of an i…
/r/seduction01/07/20 04:51 AM
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If she sleeps with you she’s already slept with you but if you tell her and she decides she don’t wanna be your first now your still a virgin. Maybe it shouldn’t be that big a deal but it signals to her no other girls want you. Do what you want but I’m not making this up. I would say if you asked them 90% of girls would say they wouldn’t care if you were a virgin and they knew before they slept with you and maybe 10% would actually sleep with you knowing your a virgin. When I was in early 20s an…
/r/seduction01/07/20 04:45 AM
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Here’s the thing it’s not a conscious choice. She’s not deciding logically she doesn’t like it. It’s the same way women swear they want a nice guy but aren’t attracted to him. They may logically want that but can’t help that they lose attraction when a guys to nice to them. I mean in my experience i personally wouldn’t tell her. At least wait until after you’ve slept with her. If she brings it up beforehand I would just be vague and like I said, sorta like it’s been a while I’m very choosy with …
/r/seduction01/07/20 04:40 AM
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It takes years of practice man. Especially if your totally inexperienced. Just get one under your belt and go from there. Don’t think to far ahead about getting good or many women. Just get one which is gonna be the biggest one. Your gonna be a little nervous every step of the way cuz you have to be the one to risk rejection and lead things the bedroom. She will not and will be a nervous but not on the same level as you for first time cuz you have to go through everything and risk rejection and …
/r/seduction01/07/20 04:05 AM
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If your just starting and never approached before don’t give yourself unrealistic expectations cuz you won’t do it. It like someone dying I’m gonna go to th e gym everyday and eat healthy everyday instead of trying to go 2-3 days a week and eating healthy 2-3 days and building from that foundation. So I would try 30 a month if your starting new.Keep in mind you won’t be going out at all some days and some days you’ll be getting like 6 in. You can always do more and if you achieve 30 quick and yo…
/r/seduction01/07/20 03:58 AM
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Do the people complain about you talking with the women or the fact that your video taping them without them knowing? I’m curious what they’re complaining about?
/r/seduction01/07/20 03:30 AM
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I stopped counting after 25 for lays and that was years ago. Approaches would be Way more than I could count. I learned this stuff through trial and error so I wasn’t really counting like a game from scratch the first bunch were over a long span and then shit clicked and I never looked back. My personal goal wasn’t to bang as many girls as a could it was that if I see a hot girl in a store or wherever that I wanna talk to I’d go and approach successfully or at least with the best possible chance…
/r/seduction01/07/20 03:26 AM
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Atop beating yourself up first. I don’t judge people either everyone starts at a different place in life. You kinda gotta fake it till you make it. Eventually you’ll get one then one becomes two then two becomes 3. Have a desired goal of what you actually want outA all this. It’s nerve racking and you don’t know what to say I get it but just interacting with them you’ll get better and better and it will get easier. Maybe you’ll learn to like it before you get results but for most people I don’t …
/r/seduction01/07/20 03:08 AM
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Yeah I def agree it’s your school of thought I personally enjoy the process of indirect and like trying different things that throw a girloff guard and stomping all over her shit tests lol I think direct also works better once you’ve got your shit down. Like when I first started direct never worked for me. Now it will work with some girls but I prefer indirect. I think the hardest part is getting the first few 10 or so. Once you start seeing more success than rejection shit becomes easier and ea…
/r/seduction01/07/20 02:57 AM
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Lol pretty much. I’m not saying it’s the best approach but it’s def better than not approaching at all. It’s all in your tone calling. From behind. You gotta communicate fun ,non threading and confident in whatever you say. I hear black guys do it all the time in the city hey “red shoes red shoes.” They usually repeat themselves. Sometimes the girls end up talking to them sometimes not. I’d def recommend approaching the way game more commonly describes coming towards her shoulder or talking over…
/r/seduction01/07/20 02:40 AM
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So you probably haven’t had much success with women. It also won’t become fun until you start having success and seeing results. Practice flirting with every girl you meet. Young (not to young or underagelol)old, ugly ,fat.hot,cute. Treat them all the same
/r/seduction01/07/20 02:30 AM
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Agreed with you there. Indirect on street or inferior moving I don’t like cuz they rarely wanna have the conversation and wanna keep walking but if they are at a mall or outside sweating or something anywhere stationary I prefer indirect. I’ve had much more success with indirect than direct approach overall. I feel like with direct your relying at least 80% on your looks 20% on confidence for just approaching. She may like you enough to give the number but probably won’t remember you or be inter…
/r/seduction01/07/20 02:27 AM
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Get the mystery method on audio. It’s like a fucking textbook in print so it’s much easier to listen to it and you can listen while you exercise or organize stuff or drive to work. Also how to be a 3 % man by Corey Wayne is really good. It’s not as much about pickup and more about relationships and what women want in general but it will def help you with meeting women too since it gives a lot of info on what behaviors to display and avoid which is ultimately what she’s reacting to. Also it helps…
/r/seduction01/07/20 02:14 AM
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Philly is pretty cool. Not as expensive as New York. Tons of people all over the streets everyday and a lot of different areas and malls and shit within a half hour of the city.
/r/seduction01/07/20 02:08 AM
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I agree, being well rounded is most important. I feel like the reason so many guy spend so much time on women is cuz they’ve had some success in other areas of their life but none with women so it’s much more exciting for them to finally get it especially when it’s a direct biological desire. It helps with game to be well rounded as you become a more interesting guy for real. I do think for a lot of guys they have to spend a large portion of their time on women cuz they’re playing catch-up. Once…
/r/seduction01/07/20 02:07 AM
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Leave it open, wouldn’t you like to know is cool You could def get more creative with it. If she keeps pressing say don’t worry I’m here with you tonight maybe I like you better than them. It says almost nothing but makes her feel like she’s more important than the other girls which is what she logically wants without validating the shit outa her. The maybe in that phrase is key. If you’ve been dating a while and think she wants exclusivity and you want that too you can play it in that direction…
/r/seduction01/07/20 01:59 AM
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Act like you know them and call to them from behind lol it works for a lot of black guys lol It’s gonna be better than not trying anything at all or creepily speeding up to catch them from behind walking super fast is def not attractive either as it has neurotic written all over it. If you can’t do the over you shoulder talk thing without running ahead of them your better off saying fuck it by walking around in a way that you’ll coming at them on that shoulder angle or calling/ hollering at them…
/r/seduction01/07/20 01:51 AM
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I could be wrong but the way I read his post it sounded like he was confused about the wording of direct and indirect approach. It sounded like he viewed indirect as the small talk and what not. I tried to clear it up for him in my post cuz I personally prefer indirect approach for all the reasons you said. Women are used to guys doing that stuff and it’s 100% better than doing no approach at all but I feel your relying heavily on your looks doing direct approach. Also everyone I’ve seen post ab…
/r/seduction01/07/20 01:30 AM
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When you say direct approach it sounds like you mean approach with intentions of something happening between you and not just small talk. Indirect approach is not about making small talk. It’s just not waiting till she’s warmed up to you to start showing her iois Direct would be more walking up and telling her she’s cute and would like to take her out. It’s just a different style and you gotta find which works best for you. I’m a really good shit talker so I prefer indirect approach. I start wit…
/r/seduction01/07/20 01:24 AM
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Read my whole message man it’s long but I detailed it cuz I used to make the same mistakes you did and it was made the process un enjoyable. You said you were doing all the stuff someone else who posted wrote but in a slightly different order ad maybe it works for that guy cuz he looks like brad Pitt or is super confident natural whos had girls interested since he was in middle school.either that or he’s just saying some shit he thinks will work. Everything that you said you do was all low value…
/r/seduction30/06/20 06:12 PM
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If that’s what your doing it’s obvious to me why you keep getting no response. They are like I’ll give my number and maybe if I’m bored I’ll respond is probably the attitude they have. Don’t start by apologizing to a girl for wanting to talk to her. In fact don’t say sorry ever even sarcastically. Lose it from your vocabulary entirely unless you actually do something fucked up that hurts somebody. Also do not compliment women directly, she knows how pretty she is and hears that all the time. Its…
/r/seduction30/06/20 06:06 PM
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1 min is short in my opinion. Unless your in a rush you want like 15 min give it take. You can’t display any high value or show your personality at all so your basically relying 100% on your looks. Also it depends when your texting her. Are you texting them all at the same time? Like are texting within an hour or waiting a week? 3 days? Whatever your doing is t working for you.
/r/seduction30/06/20 05:20 PM
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What you’ll realize is as you practice being on you just sorta are on all the time and it’s just who you are. Your probably more reserved and quiet do to social programming that told you as a child you’ll fly under the radar and not get negative attention if your more quiet but you also won’t get positive attention. I like that kidney line is exactly what I’m talking about. practice it that kind of stuff with every woman you see even if they are older or you aren’t interested in them. That’s one…
/r/seduction30/06/20 04:18 PM
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21 is the best age to do it. Even less guys are doing it at your age so you stand out in a good way. I don’t like to much theory personally. I think it’s easy for guys to get stuck in their heads or tryna load of on fly like 20 things to do. Indifferently interested High value And hold frame is all you really have to portray and do I like false time constraint, push pull and qualify, disqualify through teasing works very well with my personality. I learned all this stuff through trial and warrio…
/r/seduction30/06/20 04:04 AM
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Practice always being in it. Always have one girl you banter with even n text once or twice a day. It’s not as good as talking to people in person but it will help you find new funny jokes to do with other girls you meet. This can be a girl your dating or just one your setting q date with you met online or haven’t got out yet. Try being playful and social with every person you meet in public guy and girl but especially girl. Practice saying something witty or funny to ever person that asks if yo…
/r/seduction30/06/20 03:44 AM
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A date is literally just a way to meet and have fun while she makes sure your the guy she thinks you are. It’s hard for women to say no to a guy who hen she’s at his place and doesn’t wanna show up and not like you. Girls def only go on the date with the idea of just seeing what happens but they wouldn’t be going on the date with you in the first place if they didn’t want or hope your the guy who they end up dating and or sleeping with. Best move in my opinion is to do whatever you wanna do as l…
/r/seduction30/06/20 03:37 AM
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Behaviors would be not being afraid to speak up, being a leader, not backing down once you’ve said something, being indifferently interested which is like your hanging out with her so you obviously like her but your not sure how much and she has to win you over as well. Saying what you want and meaning it. Sub communication that says you get girls and expect she wants you. An example would be the difference between saying what’s your number? And can I get your phone number? One assumes she’s gon…
/r/seduction29/06/20 02:17 AM
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It’s in the way you view yourself, if you believe your a guy every girl wants most of them will want you but you actually have to believe it and they have to see you as at least like a 5. That will radiate in your body language and energy and women can literally sense it. You’ll still probably have to approach the women cuz if you were so physically attractive that women just throw themselves at you you’d know and wouldn’t have any issues with women. Your also probably at least average but they …
/r/seduction29/06/20 02:05 AM
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If you didn’t hit puberty until later you might still be growing some too. Drink as much whole milk and protein powder as you possibly can as it has hormones in it from what they give the cows to make them bigger faster. This won’t guarantee anything but I grew in height till I was 20. Aside from that excercise with your body weight pushups chin-ups pull-ups a lot and follow the advice of learning to not give a fuck. Some girls automatically won’t accept you. I know short guys who’ve always had …
/r/seduction28/06/20 08:46 PM
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I guess it depends on what your view of lying is. I don’t consider trashing chevy even though I like them a little bit prefer fords lying.
/r/seduction23/06/20 05:32 AM
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Here’s the thing I do it’s like I’m cocky as fuck but i noticed I smile and laugh after I say something cocky. Like I’m aware of how full of myself I am and she’s in on the joke cuz I don’t take myself to to seriously. That’s the difference in my opinion between cocky confident and funny or arrogant. Basically I say the shit but I noticed I keep everything light and playful and laugh about the fact I just said the cockiest things she’s ever heard in her life. If I had to guess your doing thins t…
/r/seduction23/06/20 05:31 AM
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Personally it’s the full on trashing it that’s most fun for me. I never even said I honestly dislike chevy I just said I choose ford and trashed chevys cuz its funny to me and fun. I like bantering back and forth. You can do whatever you want but if your trying to not rick the boat as your reason to not disagree and trash chevy she can feel that. Women are super perceptive and can really smell that fear from a mile away.
/r/seduction23/06/20 05:24 AM
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Insecurities are different than being insecure overall too. Everyone’s got some insecurity at some point in their life but thats not necessarily their overall frame or how they view themselves as a whole.
/r/seduction23/06/20 05:17 AM
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Yeah so that’s frame control. Not letting her knock you off center. However you want and believe the conversation should go is how it goes.
/r/seduction23/06/20 05:16 AM
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Yeah it’s be honest in a sense but even if you like chevy as well it’s much more fun to tease her about it. Most people like a little bit of everything but it’s more fun to pick a side and challenge her over it. If you like chevys too and tell her that even if you genuinely like them she says cool. And you got lumped in with the guys who try to please her by liking what she likes.(even if you weren’t trying it do that it happens subconsciously) She’s not sitting there thinking he’s doing this or…
/r/seduction23/06/20 05:15 AM
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Frame is basically the idea,vibe and message you want to convey in any given interaction. Maintaining frame would be holding true to your beliefs and words no matter what. If you say your checking me out you think I’m hot. She says no I didn’t say that. You get nervous and stumble over yourself or back down and say oh I guess I read it wrong or something you just broke frame. You were trying to convey your a confident guy and you know she’s interested she said no I’m not and you panicked and she…
/r/seduction23/06/20 05:08 AM
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You’d be surprised lol unless you’ve been really successful with women stop thinking you know works and stop assuming will help you succeed faster. Most guys think a girl would want them to text the day after a date. They may logically want this cuz they go don’t want to know where they stand but what women say they want and what they actually respond to are two completely different things. The only thing I’ve heard women say they want that they actually end up going for is confidence and half o…
/r/seduction23/06/20 05:01 AM
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Okay so in my experience you don’t have to have an amazing career to get girls. Keeping them can be a bit trickier if they are looking to settle down they will be looking for a guy who can provide for them even if they make their own money. If you have a job and or are working on getting a career you’ll still be able to do well with women if you are high confidence.
/r/seduction23/06/20 04:39 AM
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Be detailed and descriptive, she most likely want more dominant porno style messages. Don’t be afraid to write or send messages and go with whatever fits the scene. Literally tell her what room she’s in what the room looks like is it a bed or a couch. What’s she wearing what are you wearing? Start by saying I press you up against the wall with your hands above your head as I bite you neck gently and rub your big tits with my free hand. Go from there and tell her how to touch herself thinking of …
/r/seduction23/06/20 04:36 AM
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Agreed it comes out in your behaviors and sub text in your words. It’s in the little things you do and say and way you act around her or when your not around her. Chasing her or initiating all the time says to her you don’t have options. Not getting back to her when she messages you at 8pm on a Friday nights suggests your on a date without saying it. If your on a date with another girl you shouldn’t be texting her in my opinion. You’ll hit her up tomorrow. Texting her all night while she’s bored…
/r/seduction23/06/20 04:06 AM
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I don’t think game had to be As complicated at as people make it and when you learn a million things you get stuck in your head and have to do thousands of approaches to work out the kinks and get it smooth. Game comes down to 1 being indifferently interested 2 being high value in your actions, words behaviors 3. Holding Frame As for techniques I like: False time constraint, push pull, dhv story telling qualify her or disqualify her and cocky funny through general conversation in my opinion is a…
/r/seduction23/06/20 03:56 AM
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Don’t lean on your job or money to get girls it becomes more about what you can do for her instead of her just wanting to be around you cuz your the man. Def get a good job as well but there’s tons of guys who have 6 figure jobs and are still mush around women. If you lead with what you can do for her that’s gonna set the tone for the relationship. There’s guys who there value is literally in there charisma and way she feels around him. You def wanna strive to be one of these guys but if it was …
/r/seduction23/06/20 03:46 AM
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Don’t brag about your money, take turns paying for the start if I pay for the first date I’ll say “if we decide to go out again you can pick up the next one” You have to learn the behaviors women find attractive in men so she’s attracted to you for your charisma and sexy appeal and not for your ability to provide. Don’t buy expensive gifts or random gifts. Don’t tell her how much you make. Theirs two types of guys the seducer type and the provider type. The guy they really want is the seducer ty…
/r/seduction16/06/20 11:55 PM
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Every date leading up to sex is just a trial period to see if she wants to sleep with you every date before exclusivity is she’s just seeing if your someone she wants to be exclusive with every date within exclusivity is someone she’s seeing if she wants to marry. You wanna be evaluating her as well but typically since guys would have sex with her right away I wrote it in the way most women date today. The guys all the girls want even when they say they don’t are the guys who have several women …
/r/seduction16/06/20 09:18 PM
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Just have fun with her. Ask 3 questions, what are you passionate about? What was it like where you grew up and what do you do for work? Emergency questions are do you have any hidden talents or have you had any funny online dates? Keep in mind she’s gonna ask you all these questions back so have good detailed and playful answer. She’s tryna get to know you too and wants you as well. You wanna remember that it’s not you tryna get her your tryna get eachother. With most women it’s better to act li…
/r/seduction16/06/20 09:15 PM
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In my opinion nice guys and girls were genuinely nice people for a while but after years of rejection they became bitter. They cling to a broken map of the world that they have which they believe if your nice and even and treat everyone amazing you’ll get all the things you want in life and people will treat you with respect and love. When it doesn’t work out for them cuz the world doesn’t work like that they get bitter and they cling to that nap as if they are morally superior and the righteous…
/r/seduction16/06/20 08:08 PM
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Don’t ask her for exclusivity she’ll let you know when she wants a relationship. She’ll let you know she wants a relationship and Tehran she says something like “what are we doing?” Don’t jump all over her and as her out like you’ve been dying to forever. Just be playful about it “we’re doing each other obviously” she might say “no you know what I mean what are we?” You say “well we’re 2 attractive people enjoying each other’s company, what would you like us to be?” She’ll be like “ well where i…
/r/seduction16/06/20 02:15 AM
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If she goes with you to a second location is usually a pretty good sign. I go for a kiss with ing 20 min of the date, debating on how how receptive she is to all my advances is a go. I almost always invite the girl back as long as she wasn’t literally ice cold all night but my dates typically always go really well since I changed my approach to the dates themselves. I don’t ask a lot of questions anymore or make statements. I go and ask 3 questions what’s something your passionate about, what wa…
/r/seduction16/06/20 01:48 AM
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If they are that different then stick with your mode 1 don’t break something that isn’t broken or change something you haven’t mastered yet. Basically it’s obvious that I’m interested in her cuz I’m kissing her and spending time with her and all but I don’t let her know much. If I want to keep seeing her I show her by doing what I say I’m going to and continuing to spend time with her or do things with her. I will respond if she reaches out to me but only really initiate if I’m making plans Or h…
/r/seduction15/06/20 06:49 AM
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How so? Your mean our appearance or the way we learned our game?
/r/seduction15/06/20 06:30 AM
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I prefer indirect within first 5 or at least until I’ve ran a push pull and a dhv then I’m pretty clear when I’m making out with her or setting a date. I just don’t ever let her know how interested. There’s a million ways to do things I find being indifferently interested is the best strategy based on my personality type and all. So I may in the moment be clear that I know she wants me and I want her but for anything in future I speak in ifs and maybes. If we decide to see each other again maybe…
/r/seduction15/06/20 06:25 AM
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I’m aware of most game techniques and learned this stuff the hard way from trial and error over years of of success and failure. I thought game was bullshit until I realized most of the stuff I was doing that worked was stuff that was labeled and named. In my opinion the hardest part about learning game with no prior knowledge of it or little experience would be learning to implement it one technique at a time cuz it’s a lot of info. I could easily see being stuck in my head learning from scratc…
/r/seduction15/06/20 06:11 AM
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What’s mode one?
/r/seduction15/06/20 05:49 AM
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What’s 60 yoc?
/r/seduction15/06/20 05:33 AM
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It’s mostly eye contact. You can communicate strong body language and all which will sub communicate your a confident relaxed guy. Aside from that it’s eye contact is how you communicate non verbally. Also facial expressions will help. You want to be able to say I want you without speaking. You don’t have to say much if your really good with your eye contact. When I say eye contact it’s not as simple as just looking at her eyes it’s a look you give her. Your almost looking into her soul and sizi…
/r/seduction15/06/20 05:22 AM
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What’s 60 yoc? Yeah that telling her to sit with you is huge. I made that mistake in my teens with first few girls. Basically wasted so much time trying to just get next to her instead of getting her naked. I liked the way you passed that shit test she threw at you. Zero fear, it’s like the “why? Cuz I said so” kind of attitude. The only thing I would suggest would be to come up with a good reason for her to come over for the girls who are a little more worried about being a slut or a little low…
/r/seduction15/06/20 05:12 AM
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Leave your number. Flirt with her every time you see her and you have to be a little ballsy. You can’t be making small talk, she has to wish your encounters lasted longer. Flirt a few times hard and once you feel she’s hooked ask her number. Or Just flat out ask her for her number but your basically relying on your looks 100% I recommend the second way and try to go at off peak hours. Your gonna have trouble no matter what if there’s a line behind you so the day your gonna ask her for her number…
/r/seduction15/06/20 05:04 AM
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How far away does she live? One thing you want to do is make sure she’s initiating more than you. Because your not having sex and been friends for a year or so if you can get it to even 60/40 her would be good. I always recommend for guys who have been just friends with a girl for a while to not have a talk, don’t confess your feelings to her and don’t ask her out on an official date. Asking her out would be better than nothing but almost every friendship that turned into more “just kinda happen…
/r/seduction15/06/20 04:54 AM
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Two things for anyone who’s unsure of shit test in my opinion a shit test is only a shit test when you let her knock off center. When o.p. Said “hit me up when your done with your friend I know wanted to be w it’s me more and she replied “ why you think that?” Then o.p. Replied “Because it’s true it’s okay I wanna see you too” Had he got nervous or backed off he woulda failed a shit test. This is a minor one cuz if he backed off it probably wouldn’t have completely ruined it for him all together…
/r/seduction15/06/20 04:24 AM
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Awesome it’s good your doing it.
/r/seduction09/06/20 05:28 PM
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Have you tried to get laid? Have you either been at a party and made out with a girl or attempted to lead her to the bedroom? Have you ever gone on a date and attempted to take her back to your place? I think I got laid at 18. 22 ain’t that old but the longer you wait you’ll build it up more and more In your head is the problem. Don’t even tell the girls just act like you’ve been there before and hope for the best then once you’ve had sexual you’ve had sex.
/r/seduction02/06/20 11:12 PM
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any kind of game isn’t magic but it will help you get started. If your idea of hero is bangin 9s and 10s all the time your gonna have to put in a lot a lot of effort and basically put all your time into learning game and going out all the time. You only really need to know 3 things and apply them, Be indifferently interested Be high value in your actions, behaviors and words Hold frame always, that means in every setting and basically you gotta become the person you want to be. Don’t try to turn…
/r/seduction01/06/20 04:02 PM
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Yeah
/r/seduction22/05/20 12:16 AM
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Yeah
/r/seduction22/04/20 02:46 PM
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Private message me
/r/seduction18/04/20 12:42 AM
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First date something simple , drinks or something. I don’t do anything more complications than bar food. 2nd date food at a different place, go somewhere for dessert and back to my place if it didn’t already happen yet. 3rd date, same thing, maybe shoot some pool or something Once a girls actively dating me for a bit or my girlfriends lol go to movies, go bowling, laser tag or go karts type thing, Dave n busters type places, road trips, wine tastings, concerts, games, hikes. I mean it pretty ope…
/r/seduction08/04/20 02:43 PM
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Yeah I’m just curious cuz most guys on this sub are very overly respectful and have this mindset that a girl has to be in love with you for her to have sex with you or the idea that sex comes after a relationship. I would say I sleep with 75% of the girls I take out on the first date and the other 24% by the third. I used to get with 1/4 or 5 girls I took out now it’s rare if I don’t have something develop with a girl I get out on a date. I just got much more sexually aggressive and let them com…
/r/seduction08/04/20 04:52 AM
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I don’t get what your saying?
/r/seduction08/04/20 04:20 AM
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Nice how’s your success rate?
/r/seduction08/04/20 04:12 AM
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What point do you kiss? What point do you make a move for sex?
/r/seduction08/04/20 04:05 AM
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All the date things are about making her happy and finding things she’ll enjoy doing with you. Your trying to impress her with your dates. If you try and impress women you will turn them off if they aren’t super high interest. If you date all the women you take out and are ending it cuz of timing, different schedules, different overall goals or values or you not as into her had you initially thought and your ending it or are you going out on a lot of dates and basically dating until you find a c…
/r/seduction08/04/20 03:57 AM
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I saw in there nothing about kids uh the girl or sleeping with her. I saw something on the first date about being talkative but no serious physical contact. I sleep with 75% of the girls I take out on the first date and everyone wants to continue to date me and are tying to get exclusivity with me. I’m curious how well you do with this style of dating? In my opinion if you aren’t getting some form or romantic/sexual relationship with 99% of the girls your taking out your not doing that great dat…
/r/seduction08/04/20 12:35 AM
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To get women in you have your basic life and finances in order. Look the best than can look and be working on your body. It’s not that hard to get what you need to get from external sources to get women. The harder part is actually getting the girls. Just getting this stuff won’t magically make all the women you meet attracted to you. If you brag about this stuff your gonna turn her off cuz it reads as I’m not good enough for you but I come with an expensive car and can buy you stuff if you pick…
/r/seduction07/04/20 10:48 PM
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Next time you have a crush on a friend who’s a girl don’t tell her you like her or discuss it cuz you can’t explain why a girl should be in a relationship with you. Things don’t work in real life like the tv and movies. Don’t plan on hanging in with her long enough and she will realize your the guys for her or try to be friends with a girl first to get her romantically. That stuff doesn’t work in real life 9.9/10 times. If you happen to develop a crush on a friend just flirt with her for a few w…
/r/seduction02/04/20 02:54 PM
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Tell her you wanna call her before the the date to make sure she can still carry a conversation and isn’t a crazy cat lady. This is a qualifying text that gives you a non needy needy reason to call her the night before the date. Don’t keep texting her before the date unless she’s reaching out to you for attention first. Call her for 10-15 min joke banter, tease her and get off the phone. If you had a good connection via text or irL will really help with stopping girls from flaking. I haven’t bee…
/r/seduction14/02/20 12:03 AM
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Start with a false time constraint and go right into conversation that works a push pull maybe a qualifier. I prefer day game over night game though. Still same routine, I start with a false time constraint and just start talking
/r/seduction05/02/20 02:11 PM
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Yeah I was half agreeing with you maybe 3/4 cuz it took me years to cultivate a system that was getting consistent results. If your under 24 it’s a little different cu you still meet girls through social circles and go out regularly with friends. Once your over 25 I was pretty much left 100% on my own and had to cold approach or online date. That’s where the whole just be the best version of yourself doesn’t help as much cuz you still gotta be able to smoothly grab a girls attention who you’ve n…
/r/seduction05/02/20 07:29 AM
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The techniques are to get you started so you can establish some inner game and just get good in general talking and flirting with women. That comes easy to some guys and not so easy to others. Game is basically systematic flirting for guys who don’t know how to interact with women to make the interactions man to woman. I learned most of the techniques from years of trial and error and didn’t even know what i was doing was referred to as a push pull but over years I figured out that saying that g…
/r/seduction05/02/20 03:19 AM
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If your vibing with a girl like you say and she says that say nothing look her in the eyes and kiss her. Then you could say does that answer your question? Or you could just leave it hanging after and wait for her to say something about it. The ballsier you are the more receptive women are. You gotta know where that line is between overstepping their boundaries is but for most guys on this sub they aren’t even close to overstepping they are way too nice and overly respectful to the point they ne…
/r/seduction05/02/20 03:07 AM
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Tons of girls can’t even achieve orgasm through sex without serious time an devotion to making it happen (I’m talking over months) I’ve slept with and dated at least 10 different girls that had never orgasmed before me and they literally had the mentality that sex was over when I came and they enjoyed it but never came. What I noticed was they got a rush off making me cum. I’ve given long detailed descriptions of how to help a girl achieve orgasm with you over the course of months.if a girl can’…
/r/seduction05/02/20 12:02 AM
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How many women have you slept with?
/r/seduction04/02/20 11:55 PM
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As someone who’s gone from struggling with women to losing count of girls I’ve been with I don’t believe you can change your worldview without experiences. You have to reprogram your subconscious with positive experiences. Telling someone to just know they are they shit doesn’t work when they honestly don’t believe it deep down. Fake it till you make it works cuz your pretending to be who you want to be while taking positive action and once you start getting results your subconscious social prog…
/r/seduction04/02/20 11:30 PM
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I’ve slept with a lot of girls, more than I can count and most of them have this mentality. I’m not even saying it’s the right mentality I’m just letting op know what the generals mentality I’ve experienced was. Ultimately the goal is to get to the point your together and sex is over. Most girls are surprised when I actually take the time to pleasure them and most of them keep telling me I don’t have to but I do it anyway and that drives them crazy. I’d say at least 10 girls I’ve slept with have…
/r/seduction04/02/20 11:19 PM
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It’s like never having played a sport your either gonna be unconfident or over confident. It’s not until you play a lot and get skill at it that you will actually be confident. Your def better off trying to appear confident in the beginning, I’ll agree with you on that even though this often leads to the appearance of over confidence and try hard behavior it’s still way better than unconfident behavior. Seeking validation is not the same thing as achieving confidence through getting women. You a…
/r/seduction04/02/20 09:57 PM
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Appearing confident and being confident are two different things.
/r/seduction04/02/20 09:48 PM
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Be indifferently interested. Like you give half compliments or sarcastic compliments. If what your doing works for you as well as your suggesting then stick with that.
/r/seduction04/02/20 02:21 PM
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I don’t think you understand what a neg is. A beg is something used to try and make her feel like she lost value and face in your eyes so it lowers her value and then you dhv to raise your value. This is to try and put you on an even playing field. It’s typically something about her looks that she can control. Fake nails or something or something like she had an eye booger or something to make her feel slightly embarrassed like she lost value in front of a guy and then she’ll chase to try and ge…
/r/seduction04/02/20 02:18 PM
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Confidence with women only comes from getting women. You have to have done it consistently to know you can do it again.
/r/seduction04/02/20 02:14 PM
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They aren’t gonna want to give your their number cuz they aren’t looking for a new male friend either. They didn’t wanna give you their number, you should just move on. I mean you could try that if you really want but if she’s a good girlfriend she’s not gonna wanna complicate her relationship with her bf for some guy who seems like he’s tryna use the friend route to get her number. Even if that’s not what your doing, that’s the first thing that came to my mind when I read what your post.
/r/seduction04/02/20 02:11 PM
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Switch it up, sometimes I lay on back and tell her to come here in my arms. Sometimes after I cum Ill play with her pussy more but most girls view sex as being over after the man cums too. Most women want to please the man and don’t even expect much pleasure In return so if you do pleasure then they are super great full. You wanna try to get to the point your giving her orgasms just from sex without having to work at pleasing her. Your just kinda pleasing eachother she comes a few times and when…
/r/seduction04/02/20 02:07 PM
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Take this advice it will help. Write down in a book the whole situation embarrassing as it may be. Write it from a place to that’s ego free like your writing all the cringy details about it as if nobody’s ever gonna read it. Write it in full detail get it off your mind and onto paper then let it go. It’s over your 20 years old and you can’t change the past. If the negative thoughts don’t go away the first time do it again a second time. Just keep doing it until you stop thinking about it. Each t…
/r/seduction04/02/20 01:42 PM
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Yeah call them to set up the date or the night before the date to just re establish a little bit of connection and remind her why she’s going out with you(especially if you didn’t have a lot of time during cold approach.
/r/seduction04/02/20 08:42 AM
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Once you get a girlfriend you know you can get another one. It really not that big a deal once you’ve got few once you lose track of how many you’ve slept with it won’t be a big deal either. You won’t care about numbers. Some guys are naturals, some guys are just safe guys on paper that a girl feels won’t hurt them so she dates them and then grows affection for. Any guy can get better with women, some men just have an easier start point. One thing you might not be taking into consideration is th…
/r/seduction04/02/20 04:49 AM
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If you carry yourself well and have confidence it really won’t matter what you wear as long as your presentable and your clothes fit you/aren’t faded out. It really won’t matter what your wearing it’s like girls have a sixth sense for confidence. The kind of confidence that you don’t think about what your wearing you just know you look and feel good wherever you are. I remember when I started noticing that I was getting checked out at stores and gym and stuff. I used to feel like I was dressed m…
/r/seduction04/02/20 04:40 AM
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I don’t know what kinda sounds home conversations you have lol I don’t call just to talk to girls for no reason but a 15 min call before or to set a date is easy and really reduces the chances of her flaking.
/r/seduction04/02/20 04:26 AM
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I agree with this guys concepts about making excuses cuz that’s what your doing. I flirt with girls all the time at the gym. If your not good with women I would recommend flirting with the girls at the gym and being friendly while not friendzoning yourself. If you’ve never successfully cold approached a woman before then your probably gonna be better off at the mall or somewhere that you won’t have to keep seeing the same girls you got blown out with. Chances are you’ll get blown out the first b…
/r/seduction30/01/20 11:14 AM
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If you make it a big deal she will too. Your gonna have to kinda pretend it’s not an issue for you. If she says your shorter than I was expecting, say something like yeah I’m also sexier than you were expecting. She may say I didn’t say that and you say I said it for ya I could tel you were thinking it. You just got off the height being an issue, communicated that you know she likes you and she’s bantering with you a little. You just passed what woulda been a shit test if you defended yourself, …
/r/seduction30/01/20 10:58 AM
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I don’t agree with this, people have different sides to themselves. If you got a girlfriend your definitely gonna act a little different with her in public than you will in private. There’s also a level of the stuff just becomes part of your personality and you become more of the person girls like and people wanna be around. The whole be yourself thing is not good advice if yourself isn’t getting you the things you want in life. Most guys on here never developed social skills when they were youn…
/r/seduction30/01/20 10:45 AM
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Yeah I was being serious and not being a dick. Now looking at it again I could see how you could read that as me being a dick on here lol. You kept saying autist, mixed with mentioning you don’t have assbergers I wasn’t sure if autist was just like slang for autistic. I had thought you meant artist but you wrote autist twice.
/r/seduction30/01/20 10:17 AM
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When you swipe right on every girl the algorithm puts you at the bottom of the app.no girls are viewing your page cuz your in with the undesirable ones. Delete your app make a new one, see what happens. Also you should cold approach and only use online dating as a practice or like a it’s not gonna hurt mentality. Don’t make it your primary means of dating.
/r/seduction30/01/20 05:09 AM
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Are you autistic?
/r/seduction30/01/20 04:38 AM
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Where would you say you are on looks outa 10, are you overweight, far , skinny, average, fit,muscular? Do you swipe right to every single girl? What’s your style like?
/r/seduction30/01/20 04:14 AM
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I could help you with text game.if you want help.
/r/seduction30/01/20 04:11 AM
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The complicated part of this is for any guy who’s never experienced a girlfriend or had a 9/10 he won’t actually be able to just follow this kinda advice. As men our desire for sex consumes us and as people our desire for what we want and can’t or never had is even stronger. Once you get a girlfriend you’ll be able to realize that it’s really not that big a deal and isn’t gonna make you happy for more than a few months. Same goes with getting a 9 or 10, it’s definitely awesome sleeping with a gi…
/r/seduction30/01/20 02:53 AM
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It sounds like your stuck in a cycle of addiction, it might not be drug or alcohol but that’s the way addicts live. It’s like you’ve had years of conditioning your brain to not be social and not speak up or try to appear calm or confident instead of being it. You probably were embarrassed easily as a kid/teen and basically went into an isolation or always being who you felt others would accept. I’m just guessing by what your saying without talking to you but it sounds like you probably hid who y…
/r/seduction30/01/20 02:46 AM
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Yeah if you take her out again kiss her like she’s someone your dating. Don’t wait till the end of the date. You def took a big step backwards but it doesn’t mean it’s over. Girls will take your lead, if you act super comfortable and kiss her like you’ve been there before she’ll go with that. You already know she likes you cuz she slept with you and went on another date with you. If you make things a little awkward she’s not gonna throw herself at you or take the lead. Women want men to be the l…
/r/seduction29/01/20 10:06 PM
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I wrote this initially for a girl who was asking about the same thing. So just convert your and you the she’s and her. Try this, if your watching porn and or using a vibrator stop, real sex won’t have the same visual stimulation and his dick don’t vibrate. Practice playing with yourself with just your hands and your imagination. Once your cumming from that practice cumming with him in the room. Have him talk dirty to you and suck your tits while feeling his hands on your body. He’s gonna have to…
/r/seduction29/01/20 10:01 PM
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Agreed, 22 is young to be taking the I lost forever mentality. I didn’t have my first real girlfriend till probably 21-22 area and I’ve dated and slept with a lot of girls even before I got into game. You should read how to be a 3% man by Corey Wayne it basically tells you all the weak needy behaviors to lose to get and maintain a ltr. While this book won’t just get the girls into yo having the knowledge most men don’t have in and of itself will make you more confident with girls. You still have…
/r/seduction29/01/20 09:54 PM
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If you do it right after about 6 months you’ll just be it and it’s not any kinda games or anything just who you are. You also gotta learn to enjoy the game and not view it as work. Once you get about 6 months-year it success it just becomes automatic and not something you think about. For good long term dating info read 3% man by Corey Wayne has a lot of good info. It doesn’t give you much on picking the girls up or getting them interested it’s more about changing behaviors that turn them off in…
/r/seduction29/01/20 09:47 PM
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I hope that was a joke and not serious lol
/r/seduction29/01/20 02:49 AM
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She wanted you and was waiting for you to take her and kiss her100%
/r/seduction29/01/20 02:25 AM
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Also don’t set the next date at the end of the date your on unless she brings it up. Tbh I hope it works out for you but I’m surprised she’s gonna go out with you again. Kiss her within the 15 min of the date.dont hesitate, don’t wait just go for it. You should’ve already slept with her by now for best chance of seeing her again. Sex comes before the relationship not the other way around so when she decides you didn’t make the cut and no longer views you as a potential sexual sexual partner she’…
/r/seduction29/01/20 02:24 AM
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You shoulda took her chin and kissed her.
/r/seduction29/01/20 02:14 AM
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This is what I would recommend too. Take advantage of bartender, checkout line girls. I don’t count these as approaches cuz the girls forced to interact with you but it’s just a good way practice getting comfortable saying things that don’t make you sound like societies robot just plutonic and neutral in every interaction. Chances are that’s how you act in every interaction you have with women.
/r/seduction29/01/20 02:11 AM
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I didn’t find this stuff till 28 I had a few girlfriends during my 20s don’t feel like you wasted anything. Just be happy you found answers I honestly think you gotta start practicing cold approach. Learn the game techniques, don’t download to much knowledge as it gets overwhelming and people have contradicting ideas. Pick one guy for night game one guy for day game and on guy for dating and what women want in general. I recommend mystery method on audio (it’s like a calculus text book on print)…
/r/seduction29/01/20 02:08 AM
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Dating is easy,fun and easy to keep her interested and chasing. Some of the op ideas are close but it makes it like a full time job to keep her. You can keep her by just challenging her, fun banter, continue to date her, don’t chase her though text but respond to hers. Keep yourself in physics shape, stay independent even if your living together. Remain the same guy you were when she met you, don’t turn into a pleasing pile of male mush. Be willing to walk away if the relationship isn’t giving y…
/r/seduction29/01/20 01:54 AM
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Hahahahahaha just helping deliver orgasms virtually😂😂😂
/r/seduction27/01/20 09:53 PM
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You mean can’t?
/r/seduction27/01/20 07:39 PM
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Don’t worry I just had off today, yeah it’s not even that you have to be mean but you can be sarcastic “your hair looks terrible” in way that she obviously knows you like it but your being different and maybe your serious. It’s being indifferently interested. Like your not sure about her and you see things youl like but she don’t get points for just being Pretty.
/r/seduction27/01/20 06:58 PM
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Practice flirting with girls at checkout line, at the gym, cold approach at mall or bar, waitresses. You wanna get in the habit of flirting with every girl you talk with. You wanna just put off that vibe naturally and not have it be something you try to turn on outa nowhere with a girl your interested in. Flirt with older women and girls your not even attracted to. Just get in the habit of flirting, watch the Todd v system on YouTube is pretty good for flirting info and had some infield stuff as…
/r/seduction27/01/20 06:02 PM
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Yes, chances are your already being overly respectful and coming off as plutonic to girls you’ve wanted up to this point in your life. Just work on having fun, making your interactions man to woman and get her in the bedroom. If you play it cool and let her come to you the relationship stuff will handle itself. You wanna kinda act as if your the captain of the football team. What I mean by that is he has a lot of options so he’s not in a rush to settle down with a girl. She has to feel like she …
/r/seduction27/01/20 05:04 PM
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It’s like you don’t have to wait for these perfect IOis or anything but picture it like your cooking something and teasing her is the heat you wanna walk away till she’s hot for you to give you the best chance.the main thing is to not tell a girl you like her it’s to show her. Not by romcom standards, no elaborate displays of affection. You wanna show her that you desire her sexually. A real comes after sex not before so really what you wanna do is seduce her and get her into bed and let the rel…
/r/seduction27/01/20 04:33 PM
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Your gonna have trouble if you keep her on a pedestal, especially if you don’t have options (that you want). If you weren’t getting these types of girls when you were younger and haven’t done any game development your not gonna get these types of girls with the age gap they are super high in demand. If you worked on your game and have got a lot of girls that looked like her you def have a chance even with the age gap but if your chasing after a fantasy you never got your most likely gonna keep c…
/r/seduction27/01/20 04:26 PM
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If she’s a girl who friends within the group you really wanna flirt with her and then leave her alone. Dont keep trying to talk to her or you’ll be like a thirsty puppy begging for attention. Flirt leave pay attention to see if she seems to be standing by you more for attention. Then isolate her from everyone else and go for it. This is if she’s a girl you see a lot if it’s a gir you see once in a while you wanna flirt and isolate her as if you cold approached her at a bar. Don’t tell girls that…
/r/seduction27/01/20 04:15 PM
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Try this, if your watching porn and or using a vibrator stop, real sex won’t have the same visual stimulation and his dick don’t vibrate. Practice playing with yourself with just your hands and your imagination. Once your cumming from that practice cumming with him in the room. Have him talk dirty to you and suck your tits while feeling his hands on your body. He’s gonna have to be very patient and tho is better to try after he’s already cum and this is just for you even if it takes an hour. Onc…
/r/seduction27/01/20 03:55 PM
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I did it when I was younger too, I lost a lot a lot of girls I think I woulda been super compatible with and ended up going with the first cute one who liked me enough on paper to make it easy for me and get her. It’s when the girl has you just making the cut or is warming up to you that showing any neediness or having boring interview style dates that she doesn’t feel a spark. Every guy I explain in detail what my dating experience used to be like. The having a ton in common, she was laughing, …
/r/seduction27/01/20 10:11 AM
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Dude don’t lie about playing guitar, that makes absolutely no sense lol you pick it up and say sit next to me (on a couch ) Say okay were Gonna play a game it’s gonna be , , this is how the games gonna work Ill play a song for you and you have 2 jobs, to enjoy and listen to the music is 1 and number 2 Is trickier, so obviously your sitting here watching an extremely attractive,sexy funny stud about to serenade you live so back to the second job is your gonna have to try your best to not become c…
/r/seduction27/01/20 07:16 AM
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It’s definitely an advantage being tall, I think we can all Agree on that. I think it’s advantage for girls who are short too. I’ve dated girls who were basically my height and her being tall didn’t affect my confidence with her at all but I was kinda turned off by her height. I’ve always liked the shortest pretty girls from kindergarten-12. I noticed a lot of the short girls all go with the tallest guys instead of the tall guys going with the tall girls and shorter guys get the short girls. Sho…
/r/seduction27/01/20 06:37 AM
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No compliments on her looks, maybe a compliment if she says something witty or does something funny. Compliments will not get her interested in you and they often have the opposite effect. She knows how pretty she is, she gets told all the time and doesn’t get value for being born pretty. Only for things she’s actually earned said or done.
/r/seduction27/01/20 06:09 AM
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Next time don’t ever tell a girl you like her the way you did. Life’s not a romcom and girls do not respond to that stuff unless they really real like you. Otherwise you just scare them off and blow potential opportunities. They don’t want someone to explain that they are good for eachother or tell them they like them in secret is really low confidence. They want a guy who shows them they’re interested and you coulda possibly been with her if you just went for it as opposed to asking her out on …
/r/seduction27/01/20 06:05 AM
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You def have an advantage being taller but just like money, muscles and even looks height won’t just deliver women to you. I know guys who are really good looking but are so timid and mushy around girls that the girls are turned off as soon as they start talking. I think it’s cuz they didn’t get good looking until post puberty and after college so they never developed confidence or skills with women.
/r/seduction27/01/20 05:56 AM
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Definitely I’m 6’-6’1” depending on my shoes but I feel I’m taller than most guys I meet of all races and I live in a big city.
/r/seduction27/01/20 05:54 AM
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There’s no magic formula, if you learn game and mix that with your natural personality you’ll be set. Game is basically systematic flirting for guys who never learned to flirt growing up. Once you get good at game and you kinda adapt it into part of your personality by finding what works best for you you’ll be able to get all the girls who agree to go on dates with you. You can’t make girls swipe right on you though, they either find you physically attractive enough or they don’t. If they respon…
/r/seduction27/01/20 05:52 AM
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Height def matters to women but it’s not the only thing. It will help if your taller than them but for the most part guys who are shorter aren’t getting girls cuz of their limiting beliefs more than their lack of height. I know a guy who’s like 5’4 maybe 5’5” and dates all bombshells, he’s not rich and has a normal job, he isn’t Tom cruise looks either but he’s super confident and knows he can get hot ones so he gets hot ones. Some girls won’t even give you a chance based on your height,especial…
/r/seduction27/01/20 05:45 AM
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I think average height for men is like 5’8”
/r/seduction27/01/20 05:34 AM
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When you get more confidence with women they will perceive you differently. When I walk into a bar or mall a lot of the girls notice me, smile, make eye contact. It used to not be like that for me but the way you carry yourself had a lot or do with it. I’m 6’ attractive face muscular defined body and have been with more girls than I can count but they still don’t just come up to me. They have to be really really physically attracted to you to get this and they may do it when they are drunk and i…
/r/seduction27/01/20 05:31 AM
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Next date you go on don’t waste your time trying to get to know her. You’ll get to know her over several dates so just have fun ,tease her,sexually escalate and take her home. I take home 80% of the girls if go out with on the first date and the other 19% within 3 dates but the fact that I was fun and attempting to get them in the bedroom was a huge difference maker for me. A girl won’t go out on a date with a guy she doesn’t view as a potential sexual partner. It’s a waste of their time and the…
/r/seduction27/01/20 05:14 AM
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I never read the book sex god but I have successfully made every girl I’ve slept with orgasm multiple times. The more dominant I am in the bedroom the easier it is to make them cum. I’ve had at least 7 girls I’ve slept with swore to me they couldn’t have orgasms during sex and or without clit stimulation but if you take the time and get her comfortable cumming with you in the room over the course of about 3 months you can get any girl to cum from internal orgasms. If she can cum by herself she c…
/r/seduction27/01/20 04:45 AM
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If you can cum by yourself you just gotta get comfortable cunning with someone else in the room. I’ve had at least 5 girlfriends who swore they could not have orgasms or not have internal orgasms with men and it takes about 2 months to get them Able to cum from being fucked. Once you cum once you’ll be able to do it easily and often with or without clit stimulation.
/r/seduction27/01/20 04:14 AM
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Honestly the shy ones act the same as the outgoing ones. They are easier to seduce and may take longer to open up fun wise but are much easier to make them feel aroused with eye contact and sexual tension/ pregnant pauses.
/r/seduction25/01/20 07:32 PM
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The date thing changes based on age too, when I say date I mean anywhere low key and inexpensive that they can meet me and not feel they already agreed to sex. I wouldn’t go out on all the dates if I didn’t know I was gonna get them back to my place or continue to see them, in that case it’s a waste of time and your better off doing it like you me saying. And just inviting them over. If they agree to come over they are basically agreeing to sex, I found I was losing a lot of opportunities with t…
/r/seduction25/01/20 07:30 PM
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Thats not what negging is, negging is saying something to diminish her value or make her feel she lost value in her eyes. Not directly complimenting her is just being playful and indifferently interested.
/r/seduction25/01/20 07:18 PM
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I may ask a question but it’s not how many siblings? What’s your job like? I ask questions I would ask her if we were dating. I asked a girl if she could be any dinosaur what would it be? Then I teased her on her answer. I ask 3 legit questions and the rest of the time I just banter with her and play fun games like I try to read her mind and shit. Whatever I feel in the moment that I think would be fun. I’m not there to amuse her, impress her or get to know her I’m there to have fun with her.
/r/seduction24/01/20 09:47 PM
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Yeah don’t try and be her friend to be her boyfriend it does not work 99.9% of the time. You can be friends with someone and not be friendzoned but the second you start calling her to hang out one on one and nothing happened your friendzoned. You can be friends and friendly within the group and get her, that happens all the time. It’s when guys try to isolate and hang with her alone under the guise of friendship that they’re def friendzoned. Girls are super perceptive and can sense this. Plus yo…
/r/seduction24/01/20 08:59 PM
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My thought process is girls won’t go out with guys they don’t view as potential sexual partners. That’s why they blow guys off in the first place it’s not worth their time, same with when they go on a first date but won’t go out on a second. They initially viewed you as a potential sexual partner and you turned them off so now they don’t. I drive hard from the second I see them and build comfort through teasing/flirting with them, I’ll get to know them over the course of several dates. The menta…
/r/seduction24/01/20 08:52 PM
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Time bridge, I often refer to it as jump, yeah the number has no value in itself but if they go on a date with me I get 99% of them. This is my personal experience and I’ve lost a lot of girls before I even got them out once cuz they weren’t all that interested to begin with and I lost them. I have a really tight text game so if I get a number I learned that despite what a lot pua info says about asking her out and if she’s not into you move on isn’t the best approach for me. If she’s responding…
/r/seduction24/01/20 08:42 PM
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I have a lot of of experience and success but wouldn’t call myself a pua, I personally prefer to have one or 2 girls I date regularly, I lost interest in tryna get numbers once I lost count. My point is I never met someone who considers themselves and advanced pua and saw them in action.
/r/seduction24/01/20 08:22 PM
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That’s what I was thinking, if I get a girl out on a time jump my success rates 99% but I imagine cold approach blowouts are extremely common unless your hot and or popular in the club in which case your running more of a social game than standard cold approach with them having no prior knowledge of you.
/r/seduction24/01/20 08:20 PM
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What would you say is the honestsuccess rate of the best pua? Percentage wise for day game and night game.
/r/seduction24/01/20 08:04 PM
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Yeah the goal is to get her initiating you. You really don’t wanna be sending texts unless it has a reason to set a date. Once she’s your girl you can occasionally send and an inside text joke randomly. Make sure to respond to her texts at all unless your actually to busy to respond, just respond when you can. This is for all stages if she’s reaching out set a date with he and respond. Keep her chasing. You don’t gotta respond instantly with her. Listen to them 2 e books 7-10 times, I listened t…
/r/seduction24/01/20 08:21 AM
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It’s just playful and she knows you miss her but there’s a tiny possibility that it’s true.
/r/seduction24/01/20 08:03 AM
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So for a lot of guys you feel you wanna text he if she hadn’t reached out. Don’t do this .
/r/seduction24/01/20 08:03 AM
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Don’t give many direct compliments other then in the bedroom until she asks you for exclusivity. Only compliment if she really put effort into looking good that night. Don’t over compliment though. And on text silence once in a while I may reach out and say I might miss you......
/r/seduction24/01/20 08:02 AM
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She may say good morning how’d you sleep, I say good morning I’m excited to see you or I missed you. She reached out first as long as you don’t get so sappy your making her sick your good.
/r/seduction24/01/20 07:58 AM
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Download audible . Com you get 2 free audiobooks, get how to be a 3 % man by Corey Wayne and the mystery method. One will help you pick girls up the other will help you keep them but listen to them while your at the gym and driving.
/r/seduction24/01/20 07:54 AM
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I should be clear that it’s not a struggle to wanna send texts. I would be happy if I didn’t hear for the weekend and we had a date set Friday. Sometimes I just randomly see a funny meme or vid that reminds me of her and I’ll message her outa the blue. They love those random texts they weren’t expecting once a week or so. It’s like they them texts get you points and they love them. You don’t wanna be reaching out first sending like: good morning,-afternoon or night texts. You want her to be init…
/r/seduction24/01/20 07:52 AM
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Yeah if I have something to actually say, I just don’t initiate texts often and don’t initiate texts that are routine texts. I probably initiate between 2-. 4 texts a week, Just randomly
/r/seduction24/01/20 07:32 AM
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Like randomly text her?
/r/seduction24/01/20 07:18 AM
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You mean in text?
/r/seduction24/01/20 07:18 AM
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You want her doing at least 70% of the initiating.
/r/seduction24/01/20 07:12 AM
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I reciprocate her texts maybe 10 -20 texts a day. She almost always initiates her he conversation. Don’t ignore your girlfriends text, you don’t have to respond instantly but don’t just ignore them, you wanna keep her chasing you. So If she knows she gets a reply when she texts she’s gonna keep texting you.
/r/seduction24/01/20 07:12 AM
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You have to know you can get other girls and be willing to move on if the relationship isn’t what you want.
/r/seduction24/01/20 07:09 AM
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Like 60% of the time you directly compliment her or reciprocate with her saying I can’t wanna see you too. 40% of the time you just kinda tease her, If she says I had so much fun and can’t wait to see you tomorrow! You say “It was okay......😝😂 hopefully your more fun than last time😂” Your just teasing her some of the times and being playful instead of constantly being all super lovey doves. You just wanna mix it up and keep her on her toes.
/r/seduction24/01/20 07:09 AM
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They are way different, it all depends where it’s coming from. If your being affectionate with a girl who brought up being exclusive, you want her but you don’t need her. You do nice things for her cuz you wanna do nice things not cuz you feel you have to do them to keep her.
/r/seduction24/01/20 07:04 AM
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When a girls says that to her friends that’s just some shit they say.... of the right guy comes along they’ll move to another country if he was persuasive enough lol I might be exaggerating a bit but if they want a guy they desire I’ll be with him in a second. All the girls I’ve known that said stuff like this used it as a defense mechanism cuz they couldn’t meet or keep a guy. Same way I’ve heard girls blame being single on guys being intimidated by them and they aren’t supermodel hot. Those ar…
/r/seduction24/01/20 06:51 AM
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Let her bring up exclusively that way it’s her idea. You can let a girl know you like her and tell her you love her and shot when she says it to you. Wait till she brings up relationship and decide if you want that with her or not. Then keep the same attitude and behaviors that got her , decisive, assertive,leader ....... still flirt with her and challenge her. When my girls tells me how much she likes me or can’t wait to see me sometimes I reciprocate and sometimes I play it more indifferently …
/r/seduction24/01/20 06:43 AM
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Did you try anything with this girl? Hey he best advice really is to get other girls, I don’t know how many girls you’ve slept with or girlfriends you had but I haven’t got hung up on any girl in a long time. The same way if you fight to not text a girl you like and once you start seeing positive results from not texting her it gets really easy to not wanna reach out mid day. If I have a date set for Friday I don’t care if I don’t hear from her all week. I used to be wanting to text all day and …
/r/seduction24/01/20 06:27 AM
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The higher pitch voice helps a little unless you have a sexy low tone. Your probably doing it naturally though. When women are interested in men their voices typically go higher and men’s voices usually go lower.
/r/seduction23/01/20 11:24 PM
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Do you know for a fact they were looking for a relationship? I’m just tryna figure out where the breaking point it. There is a point of genuine compatibility that comes into play. When I was younger I would easily wanna be with the first cute girl who was interested but once I started getting a lot of cute girls easily I became much more selective as to actual long term values and compatibility if I’m gonna be exclusive with her. Sometimes more than one girl has girlfriend potential and vibe and…
/r/seduction23/01/20 10:47 PM
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Okay so do they seem to end it with you around the same point? Are you ending it with them ever?
/r/seduction23/01/20 10:14 PM
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When Do you usually sleep with guys your interested in? How long do you wait to start dropping hints you want exclusivity? Do you ever drop hints you want that? That’s the first part to look for cuz if the guy doesn’t feel your looking for a relationship he’s gonna cross you off. Guys and girls who have options don’t value what they didn’t have to work for.
/r/seduction23/01/20 08:14 PM
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Agreed, I do find on cold approach my success rate diminishes when when I don’t talk with them for at least 15 min, if I just ask for the number I’m basically getting by on my looks which can work and is worth it if I’m busy but if I stay for like 15 to 20 set the date and talk for another 5 and get outa there works best for percentage. If you stay to long is decreased your chances though cuz unless your doing an insta date which typically your not gonna do at The supermarket cuz you gotta go ho…
/r/seduction23/01/20 08:07 PM
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Okay so age matters, the type of guy your going for matters and how you present yourself matters a lot. When it comes to guys. The girl Ive been walking through stuff seemed like she was having the same issues. No problem meeting guys but that’s one of the reasons I wish the male seduction community didn’t get such a bad name, it’s technically widening the dating pool cuz let’s be real most girls are interested in a small percentage of men. The rest have no idea how to spark attraction and do cl…
/r/seduction23/01/20 07:59 PM
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Not all though, they’ve all kissed a guy so at least go for the kiss and go from there bring them to your place. If they aren’t ready for sex then that’s okay, just let me know your in no rush you’ll probly have half her clothes off and get a blowjob then try again on the 2nd or 3rd date take 2 steps forward 1 step back. Id they are urging they may not wanna sleeep with you unless their in love with you. Not all will do this but a lot of an idea that it’s gotta be beautiful and perfect with some…
/r/seduction23/01/20 02:26 PM
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Before 21 a lot of girls are still virgins and want to lost it to a bf
/r/seduction23/01/20 02:23 PM
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Drive for whatever is the norm in highschool, I would def go for the kiss 💯
/r/seduction23/01/20 02:22 PM
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Never mind on that I got posts mixed up, you gott remember your in highschool and a lot of girls want their first time to be with a bf, in highschool relationship comes first then sex but outside of highschool it goes sex first then relationship
/r/seduction23/01/20 02:21 PM
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If slept with tinder dates on the first date from 23-35
/r/seduction23/01/20 02:18 PM
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How old?
/r/seduction23/01/20 02:18 PM
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You body type now is plenty fit, when you say 120 and you wanna get to you fighting weight. The 120 I’m sure still looks great on you, so you don’t gotta worry about that. I was just being honest cuz girlfriends of your won’t be honest about it and they’ll even pay you on the back and shit for being super heavy. I was just tryna give honest help So when you say seduce it sounds like you want a man not just sex.
/r/seduction23/01/20 02:18 PM
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I’m helping a friend I met on the sub in Europe with that. Cuz it’s the behaviors your exhibiting that make the see you as someone he wants to wife up.
/r/seduction23/01/20 02:15 PM
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I’m saying make the interaction man to woman Nd have fun, tease her , challenger. Don’t ask her a million questions, even if you want her as a girlfriend you’ll get to know her rover several dates is much better the. One date you learn her life story and unless she thought you were hot and really liked you on paper you won’t hear from her again
/r/seduction23/01/20 02:13 PM
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Well at 16 actively peruse what 16 year old are doing. But yes they wouldn’t go out with you in the first place if they didn’t like you. They blow guys off for first and second dates all the time cuz it’s a wast of their time to go out with a guy they don’t view as a potential romantic/ sexual partner.
/r/seduction23/01/20 02:10 PM
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I absolutely get into conversations with them there, 15-20 min is a conversation,it definitely increases your chance of an insta date or actually get the phone number. I don’t know what word spell check made mattering from but I do not what I’ve had success with and if you go up make a joke asks for a number and leave it’s eeealt a gamble as to wether the numbers real or she will answer or set a date. Even if I can’t do an insta date cuz we’re bringing cold food that needs to go home in fridge I…
/r/seduction23/01/20 02:08 PM
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If your a 3 with good game you can raise her attraction level to a 5, you may not get the hottest girls bu you’ll get cute ones. If yourat a 5 you can work from their and raise her interest. Also don’t watch red pill or incel. Videos and if your on the community leave. I watched a few of them and while some of what they say is true they take it to t a negative place. The videos are designed to puss you off and make you feel insecure about your looks when all that shit is bullshit. Sure it will b…
/r/seduction23/01/20 12:07 PM
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He should just walk up and tease her for whatever’s in her basket, cornflakes? Really? Your lucky your cute cuz I usually don’t talk with cronlake eaters in fact it was forbidden in my family to associate with this who is cornflakes, Something that doesn’t require much thought and gets you into a mattering conversation right away. Living in a small town is tough cuz you don’t wannabe the guy who gets the rep of hitting on every girl and getting blown out. Hitting on every girl and taking them ou…
/r/seduction23/01/20 11:59 AM
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I agree with this, so many men are what’s called “skin hungry” they haven’t had physical contact with anyone especially a woman for months (social obligations don’t count) yellow hugs and goodbyes don’t do anything for the guy cuz it’s an obligation and not something she technically wants to do. Reaching out and touching a guys arms can make difference. That’s why so many guys read into things and take it as girls like them when they don’t because they never experience that. If your going for ho…
/r/seduction23/01/20 11:50 AM
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Agreed if she’s cute or remotely cute. If she’s round I personally would rather take a shot with a more fit one I had t spioken to with a. Sure thing ,go home alone and avoid the possibility of std, pregnancy and the awkward morning possibility of her wanting more than just that one night stand.
/r/seduction23/01/20 11:43 AM
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Key word cute*. So it was a cute quirk to you and it’s sounds fun and funny but if she was round and not cute it wouldn’t have made you want her and that’s not really her seducing you just her being playful.this girl wants to seduce guys into bed.
/r/seduction23/01/20 11:40 AM
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You gotta find out if the other guys she went out with kissed her on the first date or what happens on the date with other people your age now. I would recommend going for the kiss 100% it’s only a kiss, don’t kiss for more than 15-20 seconds and be the one to end the kiss leaving her wanted more.then unless your dropping her off at her house tell her to text you when she gets home safe , this gets her reaching out fort after the date and she’ll like it. Don’t tell her how much you like her and …
/r/seduction23/01/20 11:36 AM
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Go to like a third Friday’s or Applebee’s type place somewhere to get bar food. Don’t pick a nice restaurant that appears to be trying to impress her.
/r/seduction23/01/20 11:13 AM
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Seducing guys would probably be the same as women except you don’t need to do all the dhv, negging and qualifying stuff although you could try it. if your cute you don’t have to really do anything but give a guy shit for his shirt or something and touch his arm a few times while locking eyes smiling and giving a seductive look. If your not attractive physically I suggest you do the same thing all the guys do and go to the gym. Guys can’t help who they are attracted to physically anymore than gir…
/r/seduction23/01/20 11:12 AM
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It’s not what just what your saying it’s how your saying it. You probably come off like a plutonic robot, saying things that are all neutral and you know will be socially acceptable. You say things that you know are safe and won’t rock the boat. It’s tougher in the office cuz it’s gonna be harder to read when it’s wanted and when it’s not but number 1 give up on her, you can try flirting and walking away but don’t count on ever having anything happen with her. If you are making small talk and or…
/r/seduction23/01/20 10:38 AM
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It depends how good you are with women. For most guys when they are really attracted to a gir they show to much interest to fast and come off as needy or get nervous and intimidated. It really depends on you skill level and confidence with women.
/r/seduction23/01/20 02:22 AM
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I would honestly say, “you mean you don’t wanna have sex with me right now in the bar, I get it” or “ hang on who said I wanna have sex with you? Stop objectifying me!” Something like that in a playful tone for both and just did my normal thing. Basically that became a shit test when she said don’t try and you failed when you complied with her. It’s either that or you showed up on the date and weren’t what she was expecting so she lost interest right of the bat and was legit not giving you a cha…
/r/seduction22/01/20 09:58 PM
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I’m honestly surprised she invited you to hang with friends cuz 99% of the time let’s be friends means let’s not see eachother or talk to eachother again especially with a tinder date. She responded to the jealousy factor, you sparked a fear of loss in her so I don’t think that was risky at all. She was def really physically attracted to you helped too, I know this cuz hot girls have so many options on tinder they won’t go out with a guy they aren’t physically attracted to. So when you mentioned…
/r/seduction22/01/20 01:49 PM
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8/10 are listening to the same shit they listened to every day and everyone has headphones on. You’ll know in a Minuit if she wants to go back to her headphones. Girls enjoy talking with me and most are happy I talked to them and had a fun conversation with them. If you go up all you come here often? They’ll be bored as fuck but I wouldn’t stop talking to 8 girls for the 2 that don’t wanna be bothered. Just let them go back to their music. Just pay attention and read them. Girls only don’t wanna…
/r/seduction22/01/20 02:23 AM
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I be never had a girl go past 3 dates I’d say 80% go home with me on first date and I’m over 30 dates a lot of girls over 30, your probably not seducing them and on the date tryna get to know them and see how compatible you are. Your priority of not dating a woman who can’t have kids don’t change the dating dynamic, I’m only saying this and disagreeing with you cuz some guys will read this and think I’ll get the girl or a relationship when I’m over 35 and if the girls attractive or was attractiv…
/r/seduction21/01/20 08:56 PM
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I’m over 30 and haven’t experienced that yet. Maybe the mediocre ones who don’t have a ton of options do that over 35 I could def see that. I’ve never had positive results being didd t before or after reading his book with vita who have options and I’ve dated a lot of girls. All different ages and all different types.
/r/seduction21/01/20 02:50 PM
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I don’t know if being considered a player kills your dating unless your looking for a girlfriend and even then I’m not sure. If your a super aggressive guy who just fucks them and leaves them they might be more cautious. Like the dickhead player but Every guy I knew that was a player still got girls even with a rep. The girls didn’t care they thought they’d be different or they wanted some fun. The only guys who got blacklisted were the guys who were creepy, stalkerish, overly aggressive in unwa…
/r/seduction21/01/20 01:45 AM
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I agree with this, I do it all the time even if they have headphones on. Pick girls on the treadmill cuz they aren’t going anywhere lol even if they have on headphones. If they are walking most will talk with you. If they are running is a little harder. Even if they have headphones on take yours off tap their shoulder and talk to them, you’ll know in 2 seconds if they wanna talk or not cuz they’ll either be tryna put their headphones on or not. If day 8 out of 10 talk to me, I don’t ask for numb…
/r/seduction21/01/20 01:37 AM
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Im gonna disagree with you on this. Reason being even when they are looking for something serious she still wants to feel like she won you over. We can’t help that we select girls often based on looks before we ever get to know them(especially guys who never had a really hot one before). If your interaction is still man to woman this def won’t scare them away only raise their interest. Your not saying I don’t like you your saying I’m not sure and you gotta earn it. Even if a girl wants a relatio…
/r/seduction19/01/20 09:45 PM
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The Corey Wayne stuff is solid except I find the whole asking questions to get her talking thing. To not be the best approach. The only 3 questions are really what you do for work,whats something your passionate about , where are you from? The 4th and 5th might be to try and find something you have mutually in common. She just needs a few things to be able to tell her girlfriends. I personally date to date girls consistently not for one night stands anymore to just get laid but I found asking a …
/r/seduction19/01/20 09:17 PM
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This is very good advice even if this date goes well this book will help you.
/r/seduction19/01/20 09:02 PM
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No problem I have you the light version cuz it sounds like your new to the whole thing so I’m not gonna tell you to try and bring her home on the first date. You’ll know if she’s really ready, it’s just something you gotta kinda feel out. Think about how many girls probably wouldn’t even agree to go out on a date, gave fake numbers and gohsted you in the past. Women don’t go out with guys they don’t view as potential sexual/romantic partners. You basically have to just make the interaction fun a…
/r/seduction19/01/20 09:01 PM
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Dress how you normally dress but look good. If your a T-shirt and jeans guy like I am wear a T-shirt and jeans but wear form fitting shirt. No baggy,boxy, worn out or band T-shirt’s. Where a fresh shirt smell good look clean. Bring mints for your breath. Don’t worry so much about questions to ask her. You wanna focus more on having fun and establishing a connection with her. When you interview a girl on a date and ask a million questions just to keep her talking it’s a huge gamble. Your basicall…
/r/seduction19/01/20 05:35 PM
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Read the book how to be a 3% man by Corey Wayne and apply his stuff while dating. After about a year you won’t have to think about it, you’ll just kind of be it. You gotta read or listen to the book 10 times like he says while applying it. I used the audio version so I could listen on my commute to work and at the gym. If you think about it while it would be nice if girls could just go on a date and judge a guy by that,they have to test him and watch his actions to see what kinda guy he is. If a…
/r/seduction19/01/20 12:46 PM
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Even in there 30s it still works. Girls in there 30s don’t just start tryna lock down the first guy who walks to them, I’m in my 30s and it don’t work that way. Maybe if they aren’t all that attractive but the hot ones are still looking for the best possible guy they can get. I feel like people are mis interpreting what I wrote this for. It’s to reel girls in who aren’t showing all that much interest at first. It’s not to try and play games with their head or anything like that. If you cut throu…
/r/seduction19/01/20 12:29 PM
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Yeah write a list of the mistakes your making and stop doing them. Over time you’ll get better at being comfortable with the ones you like but in the beginning just change the weak behaviors. Stop doing them make a list and stop them. You may still act a little dopey at first but if you change the behaviors directly and aren’t afraid to go for her cuz your putting her on a pedestal you’ll still get a bunch of them just from the behavior change if they are going out with you on dates. Over time y…
/r/seduction19/01/20 02:45 AM
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Yeah I typically date for more of a relationship as I already slept with a lot of girls and based on my living situation it works better for me to have one I like steady. I never really had that problem it in also not sure wether your saying the problem is the fact your dumping girls for the slightest imperfections or cuz your becoming dopy and an idiot when you like them lol?
/r/seduction19/01/20 02:31 AM
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She’s the one slowing replies lol I don’t think you read the thing correctly tbh. If a girl is texting back and forth I sex back and forth that’s he goal not to slow replies or anything what I wrote is when she’s the one slowing replies to get her to text back and forth.
/r/seduction19/01/20 01:45 AM
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I think your missing my point about they are the ones nor engaging, so the guy should just stop trying at this point? Or should he tell her how much he likes a girl who’s not really into him yet and get rejected..... a lot of girls would be missing a lot of good guys they may be very compatible with.
/r/seduction19/01/20 01:42 AM
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I feel like you might have already been really into the guy. Like you really liked your first interaction and wanted to give him a legit shot or would’ve at least texted freely back and forth. If you were really slow on replies and not showing much interest. Neutral kinda answers to questions every 3 hours or so even when I try and show you I’m interested in texting freely than that’s cool too I’m just playing the odds and recommending it for other guys as well.
/r/seduction19/01/20 01:38 AM
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Yeah your right, I don’t know if you liked him before he said that though. If you woulda been comfortable texting back and forth right away you liked him and were already interested in him. I’m 30 and it’s super common among girls my age. If they are interested they will just be talking and texting normal. This is for instance where she is choosing to wait a half hour to text back. I’m trying to get her to text freely. If, she’s not really into me 100% yet and isn’t texting back and forth giving…
/r/seduction19/01/20 01:34 AM
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I wish it didn’t exist but if I cane direct at a girl which would be much easier she’d blow me off in a second. I lost a lot of girls who I may have been super compatible with when I was younger. That strategy is also for when they aren’t willing to text back and forth so they are low interest but it gives the girl a chance to warm up with you. Your speaking like you really like the guy, are showing direct interest and he’s playing games with you for no reason lol. If you were high interest you …
/r/seduction19/01/20 01:21 AM
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Yeah, I don’t know if your a guy or a girls tbh. It does suck but that’s what women respond to. I’ve lost a lot of girls doing the direct direct approach of cutting through the bullshit and it never worked. They like the game, if you get good at the game it’s actually fun. You gotta find a way to have fun with it, if your taking it super serious it’s not gonna be fun and be more like work.
/r/seduction19/01/20 01:02 AM
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I don’t understand your comment, it sounds like your saying it’s a pain in the ass and it def is at first. I just kinda realized I was already texting like this so it wasn’t like paying attention makin sure I’m not over or under texting her but I could imagine it’s a lot for someone who’s applying this stuff at first.
/r/seduction18/01/20 11:55 PM
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To make sure they can hold a conversation or still hold a conversation and aren’t a creeper😂😂. I like flipping that creeper word on girls cuz I think it’s funny, you can use whatever you want. I’m basically saying I wanna make sure your still interesting and I’m being playful as well. You gotta use the emojis to set tone for being silly or playful or they will probly read that ending as serious and possibly creepy itself. I use a lot of different phrases but that’s my go to. You really gotta try…
/r/seduction18/01/20 11:23 PM
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Be aggressive but not too too aggressive. Be as aggressive as you can while still letting them know they are safe around you. They are all there to party and hookup.
/r/seduction18/01/20 11:13 PM
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She stops communicating all together even if your reaching out.
/r/seduction18/01/20 09:56 PM
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I agree with you but don’t. I think it depends on the idea of slow. I don’t think you should asked a girl out on first or second message not even third. Unless you talked a lot when you approached them. When I hear slow I don’t picture a day or two or even 20, I’m picturing 10-15 texts in session ask her somewhere around the 15th message. That’s typically what works for me and it’s about the same with online dating, once you have her number I’ll have about 10-15 texts (preferably back and forth)…
/r/seduction18/01/20 05:53 PM
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I sleep with almost all my dates on the first date. Honestly I found not trying makes it more of a gamble wether I’ll see her again than going for it on date 1. Some girls won’t be down but it’s not like an invite to your place means they won’t go out with you again. If they wanna see you they always see you and will find a way no matter how busy they are. If they don’t wanna see you again or once they no longer view you as a potential sexual partner they will not go out with you again cuz they …
/r/seduction17/01/20 04:56 AM
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For future don’t ever send a girl flowers ever again unless she’s your girlfriend. Just congratulate her and treat her to somewhere nice or fun as gifts or to celebrate. Girls usually don’t cancel dates and not suggest rescheduling when they are interested. It’s very possible she met someone new who lives closer. You should pulled the trigger on the second date while she was hot for you, wether in the car or I would have rented a room somewhere. You may have been showing to much interest, even w…
/r/seduction16/01/20 11:51 PM
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Sometime you can rent a room or air b n b the for the first time but if you wanna continue to see her and sleep with her it’s gonna kill your bank instead of saving up for your own spot. I found as long as I don’t bring home a Jew girl every week and it’s the same consistent girl my parents could care less. It’s just a respect thing to not treat the house like its yours when your an adult and it’s not. I leave the tv on at a good loud volume at al times so it’s like sure they know at some point …
/r/seduction16/01/20 11:41 PM
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I agree with this except loud music, cuz everytine the music goes on they know what’s happening and when it goes off it’s obvious. I leave the tv on loud always so even when we’re not having sex it’s still the same volume. Obviously they know what’s going on, they can’t expect a girls staying the night in your bed or just in your bed in general with the door shut and nothings ever going on sexually lol. You gotta give them plausible deniability though the same way I’m sure your parents have fuck…
/r/seduction16/01/20 11:23 PM
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How old?
/r/seduction16/01/20 11:19 PM
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Assume they are all flirting with you and flirt with every girl you meet. Just make it part of your personality, flirt with older women who your not tryna even be interested in sexually and they’ll love the shit outa you, some will even want to set you up with nieces and daughters. Your just wanna make it part of your personality, if you do it enough it just becomes how you interact with women and not something you gotta turn on. It’s important to treat all women the same and not let them know t…
/r/seduction16/01/20 11:19 PM
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Being caring had nothing to do with neediness, it’s about where the actions are coming from. You can absolutely act alpha through an entire relationship as once you adapt your personality for over a year while dating girls you’ll just become that way and your not putting on any kinda act at all. That’s the key to keeping them, not get the girl and act like a bitch.... that’s an easy way to have her lose sexual interest in them and most guys who don’t learn this seduction do when they get in a ne…
/r/seduction16/01/20 10:37 AM
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If they are needy then maybe they’ll get lucky and have a good relationship with sex included. It seems to me a lot of these guys may end up being in line for divorce unfortunately. I noticed a lot of girls will be with and even marry these types of guys but after they achieve all their relationship goals and all the new exiting stuff is over , wedding , house and the kids about 5 they realize they aren’t in love with the man. It’s like when the only thing left is you and their desire for you fr…
/r/seduction16/01/20 10:19 AM
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Yeah I swear it works too! This is me not tryna sell you anything, I would recommend reading the 3% man 7-10 times like he suggests makes a difference. You gotta just know what to do and know the answers off hand if you don’t seem to do the stuff naturally. I listened to it on audio, while I was at the gym, waiting on the doctors office or driving made it easy to listen 10 times cuz you can clean and do chores, kill two bits with one stone. Absorb the whole thing as best you can and don’t pick a…
/r/seduction15/01/20 06:19 PM
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Want and need are 2 different things you can want something And not need it.
/r/seduction15/01/20 02:43 PM
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You have no idea what your talking about I can tell by the way you write things, I’m all for learning different styles but your contradicting everything I’ve learned and experiences to be be true about seduction and making a Frankenstein of a nice guy with hardly any dating knowledge. Every single thing you wrote in this comment is wrong is extremely close to being wrong. This guy loses every single date what are you talking about? There’s a million ways you can lose, your boring, she meets some…
/r/seduction15/01/20 02:39 PM
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Most likely they like you enough on paper and are looking for a boyfriend at that time so they make it easy on you cuz they think your hot. The hot ones who think you decent but aren’t all about your looks never wanna see you again cuz your not aggressive enough and are doing all kinds of things wrong on the date.
/r/seduction15/01/20 02:32 PM
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In what world are you living? Hang out at my place absolutely means sex. If a girl invites you to her place are your not thinking she’s inviting you over for sex and a hangout? I know I do 100% of the time and they absolutely think the same thing. They might still come over but they are expecting to get laid and your just trying not to sleep with them on first date for your own reasons of losing interest in them sleeping on the first date.
/r/seduction15/01/20 02:28 PM
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Dude literally said it was like I was on the dates with him. I told you had this one what did we say 100 dollars on the bet?
/r/seduction15/01/20 02:23 PM
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Just make the it like it’s not big deal, give her a smile like like I know I’ll get you later no rush (I’ve even said this)to he. You seem like you know some of your problems, eye contact, telegraphing to much interest .your def not being aggressive enough on the dates and or flirty enough. Can you not bring them to your place cuz your parents won’t let you? I ask cuz I had to move back home at 32 when I had a major surgery last year and slept with all kinds of girls this year. I brought some of…
/r/seduction15/01/20 02:22 PM
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So it’s all his shit, I’m not suggesting your a cheat but we’re all human and if your s o isn’t putting out and someone new fun ,exciting and attractive comes along it’s gonna be hard to resist. I would Ask to him about it though straight up and voice your issues. If your still sexy and the same girl he was physically attracted to when he met you he’s probably down from the depression,, tryna fix it with meds and getting his sexual tension released with porn. If you don’t talk about it it’s not …
/r/seduction15/01/20 02:06 PM
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I’m curious to see when op writes some of us back who’s the closest to his problem😂😂 we should start taking bets.
/r/seduction15/01/20 04:30 AM
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Cute girls get date offers all the time so if the guy isn’t worth perusing they won’t go out with him again. They don’t honk logically at all when it comes to dating even at home if they don’t feel it that’s it. If they think logically a lot of girls would be going out with guys they friendzoned who genuinely care about them instead of fucking a bunch of guys who really don’t care about them.all them
/r/seduction15/01/20 04:29 AM
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I mean if that works for you, I did get some girls in the past with the whole slow roll thing 2nd 3rd date. I’ve only had a few girls come over via online dating even. When your saying they think the only thing you want is sex, even if you plan on not sleeping with them when they’re at your place, what do you think is going on in their heads? It doesn’t matter what you offer going over to a mans place 9.9 outa 10 times means sex. So I’m lost on your approach here as to how this works for you. If…
/r/seduction15/01/20 04:24 AM
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Being pushy is a lot different from being aggressive. It’s only pushy when they aren’t welcoming it, if they like it it’s easy as fuck. I used to always wait for the 2nd usually 3rd date to try to bring her home as I was tryna be respectful and get to know her, show her I’m legit interested in her as a person and I lost soooo many girls when I was younger. Every single girl won’t sleep with you on the first date but if they’re having a lot of fun and your turning them on most will. The rest may …
/r/seduction15/01/20 04:13 AM
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I lived this same shit this dude was doing till I was 27, he’s 30 I could literally see the same mentality I had. Having things in common does not equal connection. The whole she has no reason not to go out with him is not a good enough reason to go out with a guy. They don’t go out with guys based on logic dude. She viewed him as a potential sexual partner before the first date then after she no longer saw that and he said he sometimes gets to 2nd and 3rd and gets ghosted, the same shit keeps h…
/r/seduction15/01/20 03:57 AM
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There’s plenty of reasons not to see someone who’s not pushy after first date. Mainly they only view him as a friend. Op literally said she texted him we have no spark. I don’t think he’s sparking enough interest on his dates to getting any kind of test.
/r/seduction15/01/20 03:52 AM
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What your saying makes no sense, come over my house and hang out in my bed..... in a perfect world this would work. Maybe your early 20s, most of the time girls won’t come over and hang out once they are over age 25 especially if they don’t know you cuz you met cold approach or online. I’ve never experienced buyers remorse once, I’ve never got never got ghosted doing this once. I’ve done this with all different types of girls, beautiful, cute, good girls, wild girls, smart girls. This dudes prob…
/r/seduction15/01/20 03:49 AM
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Your not escalating, your idea of a good date is probably I line with the cliche tv or movie date and societies general idea of a good date. You probably go out do an ass out hug, compliment her, walk into a restaurant and ask a whole bunch of questions about her, her hobbies, what she likes to do for fun, your getting to know her. You crack a few jokes and she laughs, yous have a lot in common and she things your attractive physically as you do her, you may even get a kiss at the end of the nig…
/r/seduction15/01/20 02:33 AM
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This isn’t right , “they have no reason to convince themselves why they shouldn’t see you again” Girls don’t do anything they don’t wanna do and they won’t continue seeing a guy just cuz there’s no reasons not to. The reason they stop seeing a guy is they no longer view him as a potential sexual partner. It’s the same reason they won’t go out In the first place. Romantic relationships are also sexual relationships so if your not escalating at all your communicating low interest or low confidence…
/r/seduction15/01/20 01:32 AM
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Was it a guy or girl? Girl your dating? Friend? Random? It matters which sex. If it was a girl I’d just laugh and make a joke about it I’d say “you got legs and hands don’t ya?” But you say it in a way that’s like I’m not doing this for you but I’m also not to serious about the whole thing. Almost like she’s being ridiculous and silly for asking and your onto her game of trying to get you to do things for her but nice try. That attitude actually turns them on too, women like assholes even when t…
/r/seduction15/01/20 01:00 AM
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It’s probably a combination of to much porn and antidepressants. Guys typically no matter what they are going through don’t just wanna stop cumming. But the depression might make it like he doesn’t wanna muster up the energy or strength to fuck. Over master bating will make this even worse and anti depressants can lower your sex drive. I would talk with him openly about it and see what he says. Make your decisions based on that, if he’s doing to much porn he’ll probably lie about it but just bri…
/r/seduction15/01/20 12:39 AM
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I agree with you 100% and would t share emotions or weakness /vulnerability with a woman In with unless I already overcame it or it’s something that just happened and I’m working to overcome it. Sharing you emotions with a woman turns them off so fast. I honestly think it’s being more inauthentic trying to show a woman my vulnerabilities and share shit with them, trying to do what the media shows you is the right way. I agree with op that media has a huge part in the problem. It’s annoyingly wat…
/r/seduction15/01/20 12:20 AM
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Your right you gotta get skill but my point was even the most skilled guys it’s still a numbers game.they just don’t show you all the blowouts cuz it’s bad for business lol
/r/seduction14/01/20 10:09 PM
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That’s funny though I seriously thought you were high school 😂
/r/seduction14/01/20 06:07 PM
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Okay the way I read the class sounded like you were younger but you set made the right move 100% then. Don’t ever take the friend route to a girl cuz it don’t work. If she rejects you now she’ll reject you later. Sometimes they just aren’t into you or maybe she honestly had a boyfriend. It really is a numbers game.
/r/seduction14/01/20 06:06 PM
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Honestly in any normal circumstance if a girl makes up a boyfriend or won’t go out with you for any reason other than she’s in a hurry to get somewhere they usually aren’t interested and won’t be even if you tried the whole Snapchat thing. Normally if a girl wants to see you they make it happen. If she couldn’t hangout that night cuz she’s busy she’ll offer her number. I don’t think the play it safe route and try and act like a friend to get her out is a good play. I think you made the right cal…
/r/seduction14/01/20 05:11 PM
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When they say they have a boyfriend call them a liar (in a very joking tone that doesn’t make you sound serious but your still kinda calling her on it) Sometimes they are just so used to rejecting guys they automatically use the fake boyfriend when they sorta like you and aren’t sure. This also works for gauging her interest level, if she really likes your interaction she’ll usually make it a point to really explain that she has a boyfriend or I’ve had girls show me pics of their family. This is…
/r/seduction14/01/20 03:08 PM
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If they ghost you as long as you don’t blow up their phone it can be salvaged. You kinda gotta get lucky with when they read it. Sometimes like this o.p. Was probably a 5/10 after the first date and they were iffy about him but someone new and attractive started tindering them or whatever so they didn’t bother with o.p. He probably wasn’t expecting to see them again but was sending fuck it texts ,I Personally wait 5-7 days but try out different things and Sunday and Monday nights are good nights…
/r/seduction14/01/20 05:23 AM
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I like all this stuff, Also if her tattoos on her shoulder or arm don’t be afraid to touch it when asking her what it is or when she got it. Also if it’s crowded take her by the hand and lead her through the crowd. When you get to where your going let go first unless your gonna lead her into you and almost spin her into your arms for a kiss/ hold her, dont over do the kissing or holding her though, save that for your place but give her a taste and be the one to end the connection. Think of it li…
/r/seduction14/01/20 05:03 AM
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You are fine with obligation touching but have trouble touching when it’s not expected and 100% okay to do. Your waiting for her permission to touch her and she’s never gonna say it, you gotta kinda just start going for it and if she’s not into it read the situation and back off. Try reaching out and squeezing her arm when you tell a joke and your both laughing,come up with a reason to touch her face or hair. I have a story I tell about something that happened with a nerve in my face and when I …
/r/seduction14/01/20 04:55 AM
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It’s a way of of teasing her in front of the group makes it like your talking with them but about her and not directly like I want your friend.
/r/seduction13/01/20 05:22 PM
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It’s a joke.
/r/seduction13/01/20 05:21 PM
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As long as your not pushy with it I would flirt with her and neg her a little. Run standard night game on her. Ask why she ordered so and so food at a steakhouse? When she says bla bla bla just say you can’t take her anywhere. Any scenario you can come up with that you can finish with you can’t take her anywhere. Come back be a little more playful pay attention to how she looks at you, is everyone else still kinda talking when your at the table but she’s fully focusing her attention on you. Then…
/r/seduction13/01/20 03:51 PM
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There’s plenty of guys who are loaded and have to hire sugar babies to hang with them or strippers cuz they have no confidence or game. These guys might meet a gold digger but they often turn regular women off by bragging about their money cuz it literally says I’m insecure and not good enough. I make a good amount of money myself I don’t ever tell girls how much I make or hint at it they find out when they come back to my place and see all the cool shit I got.
/r/seduction13/01/20 03:30 PM
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Money doesn’t mean shit it only helps your cause, if you are saying I got a lot of money it reads low confidence and I’m not good enough alone but I come with perks. Just let her find out herself over time. Do not try and impress her or brag about your money or achievements, it’s super weak needy behavior.
/r/seduction13/01/20 03:26 PM
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On a date ask a 5-10 questions and tease her on some of her answers, don’t ask questions like how many brothers and sister she has that kinda shit cuz it’s boring and pointless finding out her life story if you don’t get a second date. You’ll find out about her over the course of several dates. Just have fun and act like you’ve known each other for years . I ask dumb questions questions I find funny and we can banter over rather than questions about what she does at work, she’s on a date to forg…
/r/seduction13/01/20 03:24 PM
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Nice cars raise social status and usually mean the person has high status or money. Money is recourses on a biological level to women and they want someone that can provide on a biological level. Even though they can and do make their own money when choosing a partner they want the comfort of knowing a guy who could take care of them and give them the lifestyle they want if they needed to rely on him for some reason. That’s why girls typically don’t date down, they date up and across, men date a…
/r/seduction13/01/20 12:37 AM
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Agreed, unless she’s chasing me for attention extra tests are a terrible idea.
/r/seduction12/01/20 10:46 PM
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If your patient with them they often come around but if you display any neediness it’s over
/r/seduction12/01/20 10:39 PM
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Read the book or listen to how to be a 3% man by Corey Wayne has a lot of really really good dating advice. Not much on pickup but it doesn’t seem like you have that much trouble with the pickup part of your getting the dates.
/r/seduction12/01/20 10:35 PM
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It’s possible you didn’t move fast enough and she moved on to someone who seduces her right away.
/r/seduction12/01/20 10:34 PM
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Absolutely, there’s no one way to do it but I do find there is a best way for me and an attitude of indifferently interested is a solid way to go. Letting them know the level at which I liked them or if I let on I was interested in a relationship before she brought it up backfired 9/10 times.
/r/seduction12/01/20 10:28 PM
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I mean if what your doing works for you then stick with it I just know I went from it being a gamble wether I’d get laid or a second date to getting laid or a second date 99% of the time Some girls tell me they think it’s loving to fast in the parking lot or say they aren’t ready, some make up excuses but I always get a second date and I just repeat the process.
/r/seduction12/01/20 10:23 PM
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Try it on a date, I would recommend doing it with one who seems interested in texting you. If you already built a little report via text before the date she already ready to go. I usually don’t text much but a lot of girls will text me a lot wanting to get to know me more pre date. I’ll answer them. And converse with them if they are initiating the conversation and then I already know I have them. The only thing that could make me lose them is screwing up the date by not making it man to woman a…
/r/seduction12/01/20 10:01 PM
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I would say I’m fairly attractive and I am fit 6’ pretty muscular but I feel like I’m at that level where most girls will give me a shot but no girls are throwing themselves at me based on my looks. I agree with you that you can be nice cuz I’m nice to them but I’m not being nice to try to get laid cuz that doesn’t work contrary to what tv, movies and media says. Even a lot of girls say they want a nice guy but are repulsed by him or give him a pat on the head when that’s all he has to offer.
/r/seduction12/01/20 09:48 PM
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That girl may have come around cuz you had the balls to go for it, even though she denied you cuz she had complications guess who she cane to as soon as they were over? If you were all nice respectful guy she most likely wouldn’t have hit you up for sex she woulda hit the guy up who went for it. I’m sure there were other guys who wanted her and took the nice guy route but she didn’t call them lol
/r/seduction12/01/20 09:34 PM
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I would say I date more like Seinfeld style lol. I currently have a steady girl after dating and sleeping with enough girls that I got over the whole tryna sleep with as many as I can thing. I would typically date 2 or 3 at a time as I’m to busy to date more than 3 girls at a time. Even 3 is tough but I would usually date them for a month or so and end it if I didn’t want to continue seeing them. My gauge for how I know I want a girl as a monogamous relationship is when I still wanna hangout wit…
/r/seduction12/01/20 09:32 PM
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It doesn’t matter what you say they have to find you physically attractive and if they do they’ll respond. I wrote hey how are you? And get probably 55% of the girls I match with and want out. Half don’t respond but no magic message will make them respond. You’d have to message them when they aren’t talking to any guys who are better looking if they’re not sure about you. The other half who do respond I go write into conversation with, no small talk no 20 questions. I’ll ask some questions but I…
/r/seduction12/01/20 09:21 PM
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This is 100% true I lived in Britain for a year and I immediately had sex like this.
/r/seduction12/01/20 09:13 PM
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I agree it can be unpredictability but I can honestly say since I’ve been going for this kiss within 10 min I’ve slept with 99% of the girls I got out on dates with me. It’s like i figured she wouldn’t be going out with me if she didn’t view me a potential sexual partner so I started going for it earlier and earlier and the results got better and better. You can’t continue making out with her and you’ll have to go on the date but pulling back after a good 5 second kiss and then being much more p…
/r/seduction12/01/20 09:12 PM
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That was actually a typo lol it was outa obligation but sure puta obligation too hahahahaha It just reminds me of when they hug you when they see you it’s like something they are expected to do that’s why if you don’t give them a real hug they give that ass out hug thing lol It sucks for a guy when he gets the kiss and thinks the date went great then he never hears from her again. In most of those instances she just kinda kissed him outa social obligation. Some will reject the kiss there but a k…
/r/seduction12/01/20 08:46 PM
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Yeah there’s no time limit necessarily but a lot of guys unintentionally lead the date in a boring plutonic direction. Going for it early eliminates all that, I wouldn’t recommend something I didn’t personally have a lot of success with. I’ve never had a girl turn me down for the kiss once if I did it early enough and I always sleep with and or see them again. Waiting till the end of the date sucks cuz it’s cliche and they’ll sometimes kiss you outa obligation not outa desire. I also personally …
/r/seduction12/01/20 08:34 PM
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I disagree I found waiting till it’s far to late is the often doesn’t ever arrive if I’m not pushing sexually. I sleep with and date 99% of the girls I get on dates and have never been rejected or blown out once. It’s only a kiss it’s not that big a deal
/r/seduction12/01/20 04:24 PM
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I get 99% of the girls I take out on dates doing this.i never get blown out if she’s on a date with me.
/r/seduction12/01/20 04:22 PM
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Who says you have to keep kissing her. You do it back off and go back in for a kiss 3/4 of the way the. At the end of the date take her home.
/r/seduction12/01/20 04:15 PM
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When she’s giving you the signal of eyes lip eyes you go for the kiss.
/r/seduction12/01/20 04:12 PM
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This is not good advice you don’t have to go on multiple dates and building investment with her. This playin g it safe method is something typical nice guys do cuz they are afraid to lose the girl. The ballsier you are the more responsive they are. I kiss every date within 10 min and the only times I don’t get second or third dates is if I hesitate and or when I was younger would wait trying to be respectful and build connection.
/r/seduction12/01/20 04:11 PM
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The girl was looking at his eyes and lips she it was going to go well. I have a 100% success rate on dates kissing within 10 min and they aren’t even giving me the sign o.p. Got
/r/seduction12/01/20 04:08 PM
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I kissed girls before I even said hi lol it’s worked 100% of the time too. I always go for the kiss within 15 min as she wouldn’t be on a date with you if she didn’t want to be kissed.
/r/seduction12/01/20 04:05 PM
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I agree with you 100% over confidence is when your being try hard. And trying to act confident. True confidence with women is when you just know you can get her cuz you’ve gotten so many other girls like her. You also won’t care if you get rejected cuz your know you’ll get the next one. Nice guys get rejected constantly for doing the same shit your saying. Going up and using any kind of small talk or telling her your nervous is a waste of time. They get approached by guys who do this constantly …
/r/seduction12/01/20 04:04 PM
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This is all good but general confidence is not the same thing as being confident with women. I know a lot of guys when are fit, have great jobs they are confident in and play sports have hobbies, house and nice car but turn to much around pretty girls and really struggle with them despite being super confident in the office being good looking and tall and fit. You really gotta do all the stuff you said but also practice you flirting in general and getting comfortable talking with women.
/r/seduction12/01/20 03:48 PM
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That’s fine if that’s what you wanna do. I wouldn’t waste a year of my life waiting for someone to decide if I’m worthy or not but I’m sure you find some suckers who will lol I avoid girls with rules like that like it’s the plague and it’s got nothing to do with not wanting a relationship cuz I’m in one. You seem to have the mentality that your the prize and he’s lucky if you allow him to sleep with you lol You should have a good sense of self worth but he should too. Any guy with a good sense o…
/r/seduction12/01/20 02:41 PM
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Yeah if your not lying your either 18 or the exception to the rule. Cuz 9/10 girls have sex writhin 3 dates. I used to date more the way your suggesting and it was just a lot of ghosting and girls telling me they didn’t feel a spark. Now it’s wether or not we’re compatible cuz I know they want me and we slept together already. I like to play the odds, 1 girl outa 100 that waits a year isn’t smart odds when every other gir is sleeping with guys they like within 3 dates.
/r/seduction12/01/20 02:33 PM
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Your silly and it’s funny. A romantic relationship of any kind starts after sex not before. It’s easy to take the stance you are as the chooser but the stuff in writing helps guys become the chooser as well. If he’s been on 15 dates with no second dates or sex and keeps getting told no spark or ghosted and then a cute girl who he’s not even comps comes along he’ll date her and seek a relationship with her despite the fact they weren’t even compatible, he may have been more compatible with the on…
/r/seduction12/01/20 02:14 PM
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I changed my attitude about dating. Still took the same girls out but realized even if they wanted a relationship or to date they won’t want a relationship or dating if they don’t want sex with you. I realized if she’s on the date she already views me as a potential and I just have to not screw it up by tryna be a “good super respectful” guy and let the date become unintentionally plutonic. I stopped asking a bunch of pointless getting to know each other questions. I won’t ask how many brothers …
/r/seduction12/01/20 01:59 PM
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I disagree if you went out with me you would absolutely sleep with me hot or not cuz I’m fun and know what I’m doing as far leading a date to the bedroom. I wouldn’t call myself a player either lol I’ve been with a lot of girls but I bet you’ve been with a lot of guys. A relationship doesn’t begin until sex happens and you have to want to sleep with a guy to want to date him or be in any sort of relationship with hm. I like the I date girls until I find one I’m compatible with. If you aren’t sle…
/r/seduction12/01/20 01:26 PM
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It’s much hotter when a girl just says something dirty to you then when you have to prompt her to say it but that’s even stronger for women as they typically don’t like being in control. They almost all have a fantasy of being dominated your just wondering what level they like it to go to. I found if I’m a certain level of confident and doninant from the beginning they will all do literally whatever I want. Not on first time having sex but I’ll start off being a little dominant and progress it f…
/r/seduction12/01/20 06:15 AM
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Most likely everything you believe about women is wrong if your on this reddit. Everything from what they want to how to behave to get and keep them interested. If you believe that you should be super respectful and wait to kiss her or sleep with her on the first date, always let a girl know you like her and ask her a bunch of questions on the first date to get to know her you’ll find every bit of that is wrong and doesn’t work(this is just the tip of the iceberg on common dating misconceptions …
/r/seduction12/01/20 06:00 AM
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He also talks about how they kissed but nowhere near the way they made out the first night. That’s what made me believe he wrote it in chronological order. One thing I figured out is even on here guys write things in a way that still tries to save face by purposely leaving out details and or they forget Importent details.
/r/seduction12/01/20 05:45 AM
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I see what your reading but I assumed since he put it after the whole I had two dates and was talking about the dates that it was post date and not post bar make out.
/r/seduction12/01/20 05:40 AM
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He didn’t say he tried to even bring her home after the bar make out. That’s where I just assumed he was playing it nice guy style and doing what he thought he should do to be respectful. He said he offered to walk her home but that’s not the same as taking her to his place as she may not want him to know what here she lives (maybe she had some nice guy stalkers).she may have been willing to go to his place for fun. He also wouldn’t have been leading her to seduction he woulda been following her…
/r/seduction12/01/20 05:34 AM
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It’s an x don’t assume it means anything. Girls do that shit with friends and use kiss face emojis and heart emojis all the time. You said don’t give me the your overthinking answer cuz you want to hear that it means something. You can’t analyze or try and read into a girls texts to gauge interest anymore than you don’t wanna analyze a girlfriends texts. It’s a waste of time if your interested in her ask her out. You just gotta risk the rejection. Waiting to see and find out for sure if she like…
/r/seduction12/01/20 05:19 AM
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I think you shoulda kept the pressure up from the Minuit you saw her in the second interaction. Once you start talking and treat her like a cliche tv or movie date the seduction goes away and she is now evaluating wether your boyfriend material or not. Next date go in strong from the beginning. Despite what many pua sites tell you not every girl will sleep with you on the first date no matter how strong the interaction. Many girls have it in their heads that they are gonna wait 2-3 dates so just…
/r/seduction12/01/20 05:11 AM
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I don’t ever agree with the whole kissing her is giving it away intent. Just approaching her shows intent and taking her on a date sure as hell shows Intent. Even if you waited till you take her home and don’t kiss her until your ready to get laid you already showed intent the whole time just by approaching her and asking her to meet for a date. I do agree with you saying he fucked up the seduction ultimately though, every date or time you see her without sleeping with her is higher probability …
/r/seduction12/01/20 04:52 AM
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I think when your over 30 you gotta do what you gotta do lol people don’t go out how they used to. The best bet it to go out alone early befriend a group and work from there. If I waited till I went out naturally with friends to go gaming for girls I’d never go out at 31 maybe once ever 4 months lol Everyone would rather drink at someone’s house as it’s cheaper and more quiet. I personally prefer day game anyway but I usually have to go out once in a while for the sole reason of approaching to k…
/r/seduction12/01/20 04:03 AM
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Yeah it’s your overly respectful behaviors also if your interviewing then in the first date turns them off. Like i learned not to ask a million questions about where they grew up how many brothers and sister all that shit cuz it’s a waste of time if you never see her again and having things in common does and her being physically attracted to you does not mean she’s gonna feel that connection. Ask a few questions tease her on some of her answers and be playful. I go for the kiss within 15 min lo…
/r/seduction12/01/20 03:59 AM
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Wait a month send write to her “I got a serious question and I want a very serious answer”,this is a text to bait her into response cuz it’s enticing. When she says what? Say do you like (insert food) whatever she says respond with okay that’s good to know, your “kinda” cute and all but if you didn’t like (insert food) I’d be ending this conversation right now. 😜😂 then write Serious question number 2 when I’m I seeing you for (insert food)? The food should be nothing fancy just like bar foods or…
/r/seduction12/01/20 03:39 AM
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You were being waaaaaay to nice and kiss ass telling her your glad and hope she has fun. You should have kissed her that night at the very least but you really shoulda took her home to the bedroom. You shouldn’t text her to let her know you had a good time with her, wait a few days u til your ready to set up another date and text her to set up the date. If she texts before then obviously answer it. Don’t ignore her texts to try and raise her interest as it often backfires but don’t chase her and…
/r/seduction12/01/20 03:16 AM
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She wanted you to fuck her that night and the kiss on the cheek said your not a co ffident alpha male. If she’s a cute waitress she gets a lot of male attention and she was into you but you turned her off. Also you text her to soon, you wanna wait a few days to text her after getting a girls number.
/r/seduction12/01/20 03:03 AM
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If you really struggle to hear work on your lip reading, like actually work on it and practice with someone ‘would I’m sure help as I had considered this for loud club environments or parties. Approach girls using day game not night game you’ll actually be able to hear her if your at a book store or mall. Also take find your date locations and take her to date locations that are more on the quiet side. I use the hearing issue to my advantage often as I tell them to come closer I’m having trouble…
/r/seduction12/01/20 03:00 AM
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The biggest issue is if your asking them what they said all the time as it takes them outa the moment. I had a brain surgery last year and it left me def in one ear. I’m not used to it so if I’m in a loud public place with ambient noise I’m constantly asking her to repeat herself and it takes her out of the moment. Takes us both outa the moment really. I make sure they sit on my good side, I’ll go places more quiet, sit at the bar so we’re side by side or in an L formation and I make jokes about…
/r/seduction12/01/20 02:54 AM
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I can’t speak for the autism part, read books on game and do your best to follow what they say about making sure to keep eye contact and all that. Practice in low pressure situations where your just getting used to talking to strangers. You can’t approach them from a place of small talk or ego like to up and brag about shit your good at as they will either be like yeah that’s cool.... or try to top your achievements with their own. When I was working on overcoming social anxiety I would talk to …
/r/seduction12/01/20 02:44 AM
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I agree with your tactics but your leaving out that guys shouldn’t do any of that stuff until the girl is their girlfriend. Ill make an exception for the arm around her thing cuz I def do that before were exclusive. Also I would add to this good advice that you shouldn’t buy her shit and romance her if she isn’t putting in her share of the relationship or reciprocating how you like. No amount of romance, love, affection or gifts will make her love you back or contribute more to the relationship.…
/r/seduction12/01/20 02:20 AM
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Being good and confident at other things is not the same as being good and confident with women. I know plenty of guys who were amazing athletes and are still deathly afraid of women and turn to mush around them. They don’t game and probly never even heard the term approach anxiety. They are afraid to approach it has nothing to do with them building up the term approach anxiety in their head. They legit build up the approach itself and never do it. I also played sports my whole life and was succ…
/r/seduction12/01/20 02:05 AM
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If you had confidence with women you wouldn’t be asking this question just being real with you. Most guys are almost in a bit of denial about it. If you were confident with women and could get any girl you wanted or flirted with you wouldn’t be on a seduction forum asking you would have either already achieved this and be tryna help other guys do the same or a natural and have no use for this stuff. I’m not tryna give you shit or anything but I had the same issue and until I accepted that I was …
/r/seduction12/01/20 01:28 AM
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Don’t get confused about the difference between general confidence and confidence with women. You still have to talk to them if you want abundance, they won’t just start throwing themselves at you cuz you workout dress better and save money or have a nice car. (Maybe a Lamborghini lol) I know plenty of guys who have all of these things including my younger self and wouldn’t just get girls. It def helps obviously and it will be easier to attract them but you’ll still have to talk to girls be soci…
/r/seduction12/01/20 12:43 AM
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Guys and girls in dating are not the same at all. Attractive girls have unlimited options so they are automatically indifferent but it’s not like that for guys. Unless the guys a captain of the football team type where he’s super popular and girls are lining up to try and date him a guys experience dating is 100% different than a girls in dating. Girls go out on first dates with the idea of let’s see what happens but a guy who doesn’t have a ton of options yet will scare her away by showing to m…
/r/seduction12/01/20 12:22 AM
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Well your gonna have to show a little interest as any approach Is showing interest but you don’t let her know how interested you are and your happy if you get or or not you don’t need her. It’s the difference between wanting a girl and needing a girl. An example would be she sends you a picture of herself which is her seeing compliments and validation or her complimenting you, instead of me telling her she’s cute too I might say “your alright” but I say it in a joking tone that she knows I’m jus…
/r/seduction11/01/20 09:44 PM
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Women like a challenge and A guy they feel doesn’t need them. They want a guy they felt they earned and wants them not needs them. Acting indifferently interested how I believe it should go and honestly works. For a lot of guys who don’t get a lot of girls or haven’t got a lot of girls they can’t help but like you a lot right off the bat and they show to much interest. Girls get turned off cuz that guy needs them, not just wants them cuz he doesn’t have other options They’ll almost always go for…
/r/seduction11/01/20 08:52 PM
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I find you wanna be indifferently interested to get girls. Just not caring about them or trying to get them one bit won’t just make them interested in you. You basically have to be happy wether you get them or you don’t but unless they find you really hot your still gonna have to flirt with them and show some level of interest. You just don’t wanna telegraph to much interest and you’ll be happy with or without them. I personally believe you have to get girls to be totally indifferent and actuall…
/r/seduction11/01/20 07:45 PM
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Don’t take it personally as there’s a million reasons they may reject you that have nothing to even do with you. Also realize the main reason you’ll get rejected is cuz you haven’t approached enough girls and come off as nervous and insecure when you do approach them. You really just gotta suck it up and approach, don’t take rejection personal. You reject tons of girls you see in your mind everyday. Most of the time it’s not your personality or looks they are rejecting you for anyway. They usual…
/r/seduction11/01/20 12:11 AM
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Having the mentality she won’t reject you is confidence. If she does and still wants to continue the date try again later. If she wants to end the date waiting till the end most likely won’t make her want you more. It’s more likely to make her want you less if your acting very plutonic on the date and asking her boring small talk questions. Some guys use apparently wait till they are gonna sleep with her as a way to heighten the sexual anticipation but that’s definitely a more advanced move and …
/r/seduction10/01/20 08:15 PM
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Maybe these girls were already semi interested based on looks and you were being a needy bitch before chasing. I’m all about doing things you love and bettering yourself but general confidence and confidence with women are not the same thing. I’ve known many confident workers and successful small business owners that were like useless mush around women and if they got them was only cuz they had money(it wouldn’t last long) The best attitude with women is being indifferently interested. Like your…
/r/seduction10/01/20 03:40 PM
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I would yeah, nobodies saying you can’t touch her more in between but just based on how you keep saying your in your head about it. You’ll have taken the high pressure part your building up in your head outa the way, You’ll just be able to have fun and will be much more confident with her on the date. I go for the kiss within 20 min on the first date, a lot of times I do it before I even say hi I just go for it. I haven’t been rejected once going for it like this. She likes you now, if you wait …
/r/seduction10/01/20 11:47 AM
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If the girls were generally into you and liked you before I don’t understand what brought you to the seduction community in the first place. Naturals wouldn’t seek game and seduction as a means to seduce cuz they don’t need it. Maybe if they had had a friend get them into it cuz their friend was getting all the hottest girls even easier. If you were getting what you wanted before I don’t think you woulda turned to game. I’m not tryna call you out but somethings not lining up here. You wouldn’t c…
/r/seduction10/01/20 07:30 AM
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Kiss her within 15 min, I would kiss her right when I saw her myself but I get that seems a little a fast to you now. Don’t wait till the end of the date, she wants you to sleep with her or she wouldn’t be going on a second date with you. Girls don’t go out with guys they have no sexual interest in, they ignore,make excuses or ghost them cuz they don’t wanna waste their time. If you wait till the end of the date it will be harder to kiss her if your already in your head. Just don’t bring up rela…
/r/seduction10/01/20 07:22 AM
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Just get the first one outa the way and see what happens. If you’d are compatible it will work out but just get in there and get the first one under your belt. Sex isn’t that big a deal but until you get it you won’t understand it. Same goes for anyone who’s never had a 10 once you get one you realize it’s not all that big a deal, def won’t make you happy if your a guy who thinks “if I could only land a girl like that”. I’ve heard that phrase from so many friends but and thought that when I was …
/r/seduction10/01/20 06:50 AM
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I missed a paragraph in your post. My stuff I wrote in the below comment still applies though. I think you should absolutely do the things that make you happy and what you want. Be the best version of yourself you can and use more of your current personality but if the behaviors you currently display haven’t attracted girls before they won’t attract them now even if your ripped and loaded. General confidence and confidence with women are 2 different things. I’m only pointing this out cuz unless …
/r/seduction10/01/20 06:32 AM
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Keep your personality but adapt your behaviors. You’ll become the changes you make of about 6 months maybe a year. Read the book how to be a 3% man by Corey Wayne and just adapt your behaviors to match what’s in the book. Once you see how much better things work and how much better results you get when you don’t text her and refrain from neediness it may have have to fight not sending texts you want for a brief period but once you see the positive results You just become relaxed about the whole …
/r/seduction10/01/20 06:24 AM
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Being generally confident in yourself is not the same as being confident with women. You won’t be confident with women if you don’t interact with them and have success with them. The stuff your doing will absolutely make you more attractive to them but they still generally expect men to be the leaders and you have to initiate the interaction. Unless it’s group think like a celebrity where the girls are just throwing themselves at you cuz your so hot or popular, 9/10 girls will not be comfortable…
/r/seduction09/01/20 08:35 PM
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I liked the photo advice but the rest isn’t very good in my opinion as man who’s successfully slept with and dated many many girls. The dating profile example was terrible, writing why something might work like that is not good cuz the word might means it hasn’t been tested. I found what works best is a few humorous details about yourself and things your looking for in a girl in a way that Makes her feel like your describing her. Ultimately your bio will never create attraction only maintain it …
/r/seduction09/01/20 08:18 PM
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They absolutely use guys they don’t see as potential dating material for sex occasionally the same way guys sleep with fat girls but don’t wanna being then around their friends. You gotta find a way to demonstrate higher value as a potential boyfriend if that’s what your looking for but you want it to be subtle and not all nice guy “see how good a guy I am” ass kidding lol.
/r/seduction09/01/20 08:02 PM
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I’m giving actual advice and agreed with that other guys questions instead of just disagreeing with everything the guys who answered o.p. Said when honestly most of it was right. Multiple locations on a date absolutely makes it a million times easier to get her into bed as it’s like goin on several dates in a row and despite whatever put channels say not every girl will sleep with you on the first date even when they want to. I believe you always have to try but a lot of times they have it in th…
/r/seduction09/01/20 07:57 PM
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Your taking what I’m saying outa context so you can stick by your j burial comment . You can not sexually escalate the whole time and go for the kiss and get it. If your wanna argue that technically kissing is sexually escalating things but it def can without proper sexual escalation prior and not very sexual even if she likes you. One of the reasons waiting for the end of the date to kiss isn’t the same is many girls will kiss you out of obligation and the kiss is literally just them non verbal…
/r/seduction09/01/20 07:22 PM
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With this I like the part about taking pressure off it cuz I do know from speaking to other a lot of girls honestly and experience there is something about agreeing to sex the way this guys suggesting not only potentially make them feel like sluts it’s a lot Harried to say no or change their mind once they verbally agreed like that. I would try this to see what happens. I bring the girls back to my place to play guitar for them, I agree what this guys saying by being direct and dominant the whol…
/r/seduction09/01/20 08:02 AM
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As long as you actually cold approach I agree with you. The reason I think a lot of books suggest doing the go out and approach all day just to approach is cuz most guys need that to even approach In the first place that way when you are out randomly it’s hard to just start doing it if you have already popped your approach cherry a bunch of time. I literally learned game for what your talking about. I just wanted to be able to approach the cute girl at the counter, waitress or girl in the mall o…
/r/seduction09/01/20 07:21 AM
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That’s one possibility but that’s a lot less likely. It’s much more likely that he was acting needy and showing to much interest. She was only semi into him and felt like she would lose her freedom if she were to continue seeing him. This is much more likely the case and if he’s been acting needy what you said that worked in your situation will only make him appear more needy and desperate. If your playing it super cool the whole time and she got nervous eat how much she liked you or whatever an…
/r/seduction09/01/20 02:55 AM
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Read the book how to be a 3% man by Corey Wayne so you avoid hearing this with the next girl. I personally would wait about a full month and throw up a Hail Mary. Don’t expect to hear from her again. She may respond positively if you give her plenty of time and space but don’t count on it. You really gotta let her come to you, the one month is kinda a Hail Mary as if she wanted to talk to you she’s reach out. If you like her and remember in a month it could be worth it to send a text as you gave…
/r/seduction09/01/20 02:46 AM
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Try talking with strangers at the mall and gym guys and girls. Just engage them in egoless conversation. Talk to people on the treadmill as they are usually bored and not going anywhere. Makes it easier to just get used to approaching sober as you’ll still have aa but it just gets you more comfortable with it all. Work on getting them to engage with you. I’ve had guys and girls open up about their whole lives to me because I literally told them I was working on overcoming social anxiety(don’t sa…
/r/seduction09/01/20 02:37 AM
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That’s def possible, it’s also possible that you over peruses post date.
/r/seduction09/01/20 02:27 AM
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There’s a million ways to do things but based on the way this guy was texting he’s too over respectful. Most guys that ask this question are. They want to kiss the girl but are afraid too. That’s a lot different than not kissing them for a reason. Also I can tell you from plenty of experience girls who are kinda into you after the first date and you don’t go for it are more likely to think low confidence. I’ve lost girls I liked that I knew were into me as now I know they were giving all the sig…
/r/seduction09/01/20 02:13 AM
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Post date if she wasn’t comfortable coming back on the first date or refuses to outa fear of social stigma I wait until I’m ready to set another date. Maybe 3 days depends what part of the week it is if the date was Thursday I’ll text Sunday or Monday when she’s more likely to be receptive as she just had another weekend alone. That’s why dating sites highest volume period is Sunday night. I attempt to sleep with them on the first date. When I was younger I waited a few dates as I thought that’s…
/r/seduction08/01/20 07:30 PM
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When you get that feeling of an epiphany is when you need to make active change , if you don’t follow through and make active change the epiphany feeling will go away.
/r/seduction08/01/20 07:14 PM
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I’m asking cuz someone reading this thread isn’t looking for friends they are looking to get laid or girlfriend. I like to try and make any advice I leave in comments direct with examples of what I did, how i did it and what the results were. That’s why I was clear about not being 100% with these girls I’ve approached I’d say the vibes there that they’re interested but I can’t know for sure at the current moment.
/r/seduction08/01/20 05:35 PM
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Have you ever got laid with that approach?
/r/seduction08/01/20 05:32 PM
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I think You should use it when your bored and in conjunction with cold approaches. Don’t rely on it as a low risk way of approach but you can def get a feel for text gameand come up with some good stories and material to use in field on their. I’ve come up with my best stories I use In field through online dating as it’s easier to make shit up when your behind a screen than it is irl especially in the very beginning. Once I got some experience under my belt irl and my initial canned story got me…
/r/seduction08/01/20 05:27 PM
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I’ve met all the hottest girls I’ve met in dating apps on bumble. Because they have to message first I think they actually pay a little more attention to it and it alerts them when a day later when the match will expire. Tinder and the others they get bombarded with other hundreds of messages a day and match with basically every guy they swipe on so it’s a lot easier for them to ignore or be overwhelmed. There’s also no bots on bumble, at least I haven’t come across one yet.
/r/seduction08/01/20 05:21 PM
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Start doing bench press while working on cardio if your not already. I don’t have a ripped or super slim stomach but my chest sticks out past it as I’m very muscular from lifting and doing physical work. Girls love my body type and guys who are slimmer than me don’t look as slim cuz they have no muscle tone or flat chests. Their stomach always looks fatter and had their girlfriends compare their bodies to mine in a way that says you should try to workout to look more like him. I just enjoy lifti…
/r/seduction08/01/20 05:17 PM
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Self improvement is awesome and will help you be more attractive to women but it won’t build your confidence with women just your general confidence. You really need to just get out there and experience some mediocre ones and work up to the hotter ones. They are all just girls and do all the same annoying shit but I can personally remember before getting a 10 thinking they were perfect and if I could just land one would be amazing. Once you get one you realize it’s not as big a deal as you thoug…
/r/seduction08/01/20 05:02 PM
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What I’ve been doings been giving me the vibe I can get a lot of these girls and I’ve had enough experience to know I’m not just projecting my own interest but I can’t know for sure as I’m not looking to go behind my girls back.
/r/seduction08/01/20 04:52 PM
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I your def not showing any man to woman interest though. Do you go into flirting right after is what I’m wondering? I have a pretty good game style that works well with my personality but if I keep things professional or plutonic they stay that way. Most people realistically aren’t interested in the exercise the girls doing they want the girl and would be using the exercise as an excuse to talk to her. If you e had success with what your talking about and pulled or had a time bridge with a numbe…
/r/seduction08/01/20 04:49 PM
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I’ve been running my normal game on them but just not trying to pull or get numbers as I’m currently with someone.
/r/seduction08/01/20 04:43 PM
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Isn’t Asking about excessive is super indirect and equivalent to asking for directions?
/r/seduction08/01/20 04:41 PM
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Be aware the longer you stay with her the more likely you are to have trouble letting go if she checks off a lot of your other boxes,
/r/seduction08/01/20 04:40 PM
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I have a few girls at the gym I believe are interested as they go outa their way to talk to me and constantly make eye contact across the gym. I have a new girl now so I’m not really tryna complicate that. I talk to and flirt with all the girls at the gym, I just don’t ask for numbers cuz I’m already with someone. I talk to them when they are on the treadmill. It’s hard to lift weights and talk unless you drop what your doing to do so. Some of the ones I’ve talked to on the treadmill stop and ta…
/r/seduction08/01/20 04:47 AM
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I agree with you 100% and I honestly believe that’s what makes guys act like that. Serial killers and kidnappers aside these guys don’t realize they are being creepy cuz they think they are taking the best route to getting a women. This is how they think they should act and they gotta get the idea somewhere, I don’t wanna be that guy that blames women for these guys behaviors but when girls post on Facebook “how they wish they met a joe Goldberg minus the murders” these guys take note of that. I…
/r/seduction07/01/20 03:10 PM
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I recommend leaning back and spreading out like you own the place,let her lean forward. I’ll lean forward if I’m interacting playing some sorta game where I gotta tough her over the table. Whoever is leaning in is showing they are more interested and invested in the interaction. I wouldn’t lean in unless she’s leaning in to and your leaning into each other to get physical.
/r/seduction07/01/20 02:53 PM
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Joe Goldberg from You😂 typical nice guy who crossed the line and became a serial killer lol I constantly see girls posting on Facebook saying how they wish a guy would be like this with them minus the killing. Same with how they love rom coms and anything where the guy fights for her no matter what even when she wasn’t interested in the beginning. I don’t know Ben think girls understand that this is just a fantasy but they don’t actually respond to it. A lot of guys think they should take this a…
/r/seduction07/01/20 02:49 PM
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Always go for the kiss no matter what, even if she rejects you is better than going home wondering if you’ll get her out again. I’ve found they think 1of 2 things when you don’t go for this kiss on the first date. You weren’t interested or low confidence when you call her and set up a second date it’s pretty clear which it was. Even if your withholding as a strategy because so many guys with low confidence did dates like this your gonna get lumped in with them. I’ve slept with a lot a lot of gir…
/r/seduction07/01/20 02:39 PM
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Agreed 100% the move where you just stand up walk over and kiss her almost randomly works very well. It’s called the gangsta. I’ve used it at least 50 times successfully.
/r/seduction07/01/20 02:26 PM
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This stuff is basically systematic flirting for guys who never learned that social skill when they were developing for whatever reason. It’s def not magic and will only harness and raise attraction not create it but a lot of guys start out at least a 5 in her eyes and she’d be willing to give it a shot until they are nervous boring and don’t know how to flirt at all. The whole be yourself advice is the worst advice in the world if your current self is not getting the things they want in life. It…
/r/seduction07/01/20 02:21 PM
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Try hitting on girls who are walking on the treadmill , at least 7/10 enjoy a conversation and engage with me. It’s kinda silly to not try cuz 3 outa 10 were slightly inconvenienced. Most people like having a conversation with a stranger if the conversation is fun and or interesting cuz they are listening to the same music and tv over and over again. If your doing weights is a little tougher but try just getting them to notice you by making them laugh without saying anything. I forget what it’s …
/r/seduction07/01/20 02:05 PM
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I would recommend not listening to this advice if what you had been doing before was not working.
/r/seduction07/01/20 01:35 PM
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I agree that game technique is basically a systematic way of flirting. It basically get the ball rolling while you build confidence. That’s why so many of the top coaches and books talk about the inner game cuz that’s ultimately what gets you a lot more options. You need the outer game stuff to feed to inner game though in the beginning. No amount of reading about being good with women or self improvement will make you confident and good with women. It will definitely help get you there faster b…
/r/seduction07/01/20 04:47 AM
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There is no 100% way to do it as people are nuanced so do whatever works for you. I’m nice to see he girls I go out with but being just nice is usually not going to get them in the bedroom or on a second date. I’ve also got girls doing the standard cliche date idea of getting to know her treat her super respectful and being nice but using this style is literally the differ for me sleeping with 1 outa 20 girls I go out with and now sleeping with 19 outa 20 I take out. It’s not fake once you start…
/r/seduction06/01/20 06:31 PM
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Girls aren’t looking for relationships on the first date. Hey hey are looking to see if your a potential for a relationship but your not looking for sex with them and not trying then they won’t want a relationship with you anyway. It’s like they don’t wanna be seen solely as sex objects but they want to be desired by men they desire and when your not making the interaction man to woman and more in person he sexual flirty nature is when you get no connection,no spark and friendzone.
/r/seduction06/01/20 06:27 PM
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So kiss her super early, I kiss girls wishin 5 min on a date. I kiss her before she gets the chance to even consider I’m only a friend. Your talking them outa liking you. I go for a kiss right away and then she’s also super relaxed, I haven’t had a girl reject this kiss yet.
/r/seduction06/01/20 03:35 PM
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Remember that women love sex too and want sex. If a girls on a date with you she views you as a potential sexual partner and is hoping that you’ll take her home and be a guy she can sleep with. Women like being viewed as sex objects sometimes. They just don’t want to be viewed as only sex objects and don’t want to be viewed that way by guys they aren’t interested in. Everyone including women wants to be desired by someone they desire. Try to embrace that mentality.
/r/seduction06/01/20 03:28 PM
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Most likely you wanna fuck now but when your on a date you get super respectful. Drop master bating could help if your super fucking horny. You probly go and get all in your head, get all super talkative trying to get her attention and talking without intent won’t sexualizing the mood. It’s like a feeling you get. I have this deep gaze I discovered that when I turn it on just seems to draw girls in. It literally feels like the same gaze I have when I’m in bed with a girl I’m comfortable with and…
/r/seduction06/01/20 03:25 PM
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Within 5 min sometimes sooner, I just go for it. To be fair these girls already built comfort and report by texting me a lot before we met. I developed a really good text game through online dating stories hen I was younger and can get a girl chasing me in about a day. So I haven’t tried this yet with any girls I met got number and just kinda took out without them texting me trying lol to get to know me but I absolutely would. I would not recommend you trying to get to know them through text but…
/r/seduction06/01/20 02:38 PM
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Another thought I had after I sent that was me remembering doing stuff similar to what your doing when I was younger but my interaction was still coming from a more nervous place and they could feel this. It’s like they would go along with things and laugh at some of my jokes but it wasn’t until I was beyond comfortable with them and they were the same with me that I was sleeping with about 90% of the girls I got on dates. Try and wrap your head around the idea that she’s there to have fun and h…
/r/seduction06/01/20 09:05 AM
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If it’s going as well as you say your probably chasing them to much or sending to many texts or texting to soon. Try going for food or drinks somewhere (nothing fancy)that you can sit in an L formation, kiss her before you do any second location. Try and get her to your place especially if it’s a weekend and your over 23. A tip I can give is if for whatever reason she can’t come over that night. When you leave tell her to text you so you know she got home safe. If and when she texts back reply w…
/r/seduction06/01/20 08:51 AM
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Make what you say count, say what you mean and mean you hat you say. Shyness is not an attractive trait to women as it is a form of social weakness. I used to be more on the shy side with strangers but super comfortable with friends and family. If that’s your case I would recommend working on bringing more of that side of your personality out by breaking boundaries and pushing your comfort zone. If you tried that and had success with it but didn’t like it then try more of a strong silent type vi…
/r/seduction06/01/20 05:19 AM
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If your approaching and your not successful then your probably not coming across as confident,showing to much intent or being boring cliche nice guy from movies type. Just go up and start talking about whatever, tease her and be playful right from the get go. Act as if she’s someone you know and already slept with. They don’t like being approached interview style or with boring lines like hey you come here often? I like to run a false time constraint, push pull, tease or neg her on her name bant…
/r/seduction06/01/20 05:13 AM
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It’s cuz your plans are basically sex. They were excited about the idea at first and if they were super horny they would still hang out but something changed and they weren’t down for basically agreeing to fuck you before hanging out cuz they weren’t 100% sure of you. Try getting a drink or anything first and then going back to your place, it’s more work but they won’t flake if your not needy and all over them in text. Girls need that plausible deniability, they know what coming over to your pla…
/r/seduction06/01/20 05:06 AM
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Second location refers to anything from going to another bar or back to your place. When you take a girl to several places it’s like multiple dates in one for them and is also a form of a compliance test. I sleep with 90% of the girls I take out on the first date. Some I have to wait till date 2 or 3 but the fact that I at least try is literally the difference between seeing them again and not seeing them again. When I was younger and learning this stuff it usually took 2-3 days but I realized I…
/r/seduction06/01/20 04:42 AM
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Use what this dude said about not projecting your own interest on them mixed with what I suggested about not interviewing them and dates and sexually escalating during the date and you’ll start having options with them. Even if they don’t sleep with you on first date trying is important. You have to make the interaction more man to woman not boy to woman trying to get to know her. You’ll get to know her over time when she wants to keep seeing you cuz she had fun and wants to fuck you so just hav…
/r/seduction06/01/20 04:33 AM
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Kissing at the end of date is not sexually escalating. Kissing mid date is but waiting for that cliche moment at the end of the date is something they expect therefore they often do it out of obligation not fun or desire.
/r/seduction06/01/20 04:27 AM
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Think about it this way, if she agrees to go on a date with you she’s already considering you as a potential sexual partner(have to be a sexual partner or your not in a romantic relationship your just friends). She wouldn’t even go out with you in the first place if she see the possibility of you and her having sex. Sex comes before a relationship not after, I can almost guarantee your not sexually escalating and are basically interviewing her on the date. I think I asked 5 questions on my first…
/r/seduction06/01/20 04:25 AM
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If you can talk for days no problem as you said just approach, don’t even ask her name, try it with and without. An easy interest test is waiting to ask her name after a push pull and some negging/dhv ask her name, don’t offer yours and if she asks what your name is you know she’s into you so you got it easy. Try it both ways though and see what works for you. I literally just go up and jump into conversation. Sometimes I’ll do the thing where I self entertain first like I’ve had girls reaching …
/r/seduction06/01/20 02:25 AM
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My take on it is relationships are supposed to fun not some super serious thing. Once your married I don’t think your whole mindset should change. I don’t think you should do anything different from what you were doing when you were in a relationship, it makes no sense. Marriage can end as easily as a regular relationship can it’s just more baggage than leaving. I see so many friends and family try and fit into this like stereotypical mold of what they think a marriage is and the only ones who a…
/r/seduction05/01/20 09:14 PM
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I like hearing different takes on this stuff so it’s nice seeing different sides but after seeing what marriages generally look like i don’t have any interest in that dynamic. 1 of my friends has the kind of relationship long term I’d like to have and he acts very similar to all the stuff I listed. The guys who do the stuff I said not to are the ones who are always saying things like you’ll see when you get married it all changes.
/r/seduction05/01/20 08:39 PM
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Yeah I’m not against opening up but i don’t think opening up if your not working on become better is a good idea. Also mental issues are a little bit of a different thing than your frustrated and struggling at work cuz your coworker found a way to pawn off some of his work on you. Ifylur coming home everyday bitching about it to your wife and opening up about how it reminds you of getting bullied in middle school or something and your not remedying the problem. She might not instantly lose attra…
/r/seduction05/01/20 08:36 PM
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It’s not like your thinking logically let me lose attraction for him. If what you said were how the world actually works then girls wouldn’t reject the nice guys and date assholes lol The best way to be is somewhere in the middle in all reality but I wrote this for the guys who are way to nice and respectful. Trying to have relationships like the way tv and daytime talk shows with girls saying they wish their man would open up tell them to act. That stuff didn’t get them the girl in the beginnin…
/r/seduction05/01/20 08:21 PM
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Are you still with the guy?
/r/seduction05/01/20 08:09 PM
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What I found is them people get into relationships but they are more of codependent relationships. I’ve found every girl responds to the same basic behaviors. Theres a reason some guys have every girl interested in them automatically and other guys who might even be more attractive and better on paper struggle like crazy. Some of it’s the preselection thing but the same guy will have girls interested in a totally new environment where he has no social proof. Codependent relationships are scary c…
/r/seduction05/01/20 08:04 PM
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You misread some of the info, most of the stuff is standard across all the dating coaches with a few things I figured out on my own. The main thing I’m saying is lose the neediness as it turns girls you just met and girlfriends off. It’s a very unattractive trait in men and women but even more so in men because we care more about their physical attractiveness than their strong personality characteristics. The whole thing about not being boring is basically not acting like a cliche on a date. I b…
/r/seduction05/01/20 07:47 PM
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This is for long term relationships lol I’ve lived on both sides of the fence and there is something. About a girl seeing a guy vulnerable that turns her off sexually. I don’t mean he can’t share N issue he’s having once like his mom does or something but if it’s an ongoing thing and he’s not actively working on fixing it,she’ll get turned off by it. It’s not like you can’t open up about anything but I wouldn’t want her open up about something I didn’t overcome and become stronger for or somethi…
/r/seduction05/01/20 07:21 PM
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No they don’t, they may say they do but they will always go for the more assertive aggressive guy. It’s not a facade after a month or 2 it just becomes part of who you are and doesn’t require effort. Is what your doing working for you and getting you the results you want? If not why would you not change. Your current personality and behaviors are the sum total of your social experiences and programming so because you weren’t considered cool popular and good with women during your developmental y…
/r/seduction04/01/20 11:32 PM
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I’ve been doing this for years, lost track of how many girls I slept with I’m not really into the whole numbers game anymore it gets old after a while.
/r/seduction04/01/20 09:08 PM
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I’ve been doing this for years, lost track of how many girls I slept with I’m not really into the whole numbers game anymore it gets old after a while.
/r/seduction04/01/20 09:08 PM
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Yes fake it till you make it100% remember to that sex is probly 80% mental and 20% physical so a trick is you find out things she like in the bedroom and then wait a few weeks and implement them.
/r/seduction04/01/20 07:02 PM
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That’s it boiled down but I telling someone don’t be needy and be confident without direct examples of how to change is like when someone says love yourself. That’s why I went into such detail cuz while your right and you may have a good baseline understanding of this stuff a lot of guys don’t and without detailed examples they all think they are confident and not needy lol Until they read direct examples of what not to do they think they got it figured out and it’s the girls fault which is why …
/r/seduction04/01/20 06:45 PM
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Truth, I like a lot of his stuff. I just started watching some his videos a week or 2 ago but he’s pretty aligned with everything I’ve come to learn through reading and trial and error.
/r/seduction04/01/20 06:40 PM
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Well their husbands are more than likely displaying enough of these behaviors that they are attracted to them still. Not every guy has this problem. Every girl responds to most of the same masculine personality traits. Obviously there’s nuances but I can personally tell you other than being older I look the same have the same job, hobby, personality but I adapted my behaviors and it went from being able to have a connection with one outa 30-50 dates I went on to 90% of the dates I go on. I curre…
/r/seduction04/01/20 06:38 PM
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Thanks I never read that book but I would like to as I’ve heard good things. Some people can’t accept the fact that they e basically been duped there whole life and either get pissed off red pill/Motow or just won’t accept that their way of thinking is not correct because then they’d feel like they lost and they can’t accept it. It almost reminds me of the way cult members who’s leader got locked up in prison for molesting kids and child sex trafficking plus embezzlement of millions and his foll…
/r/seduction04/01/20 06:30 PM
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Obviously your mom dying is different than sharing you something like you have bad social anxiety and some shit comes up and your all down for a week. Even with the mom you don’t wanna be crying for over a month to her she’ll be wondering when your gonna get over it. Different girls have different limits but if you tell a girl your frustrated cuz your dealing with an asshole coworker and your not handling it like a man. She knows you struggled with social anxiety and issues in the past, she will…
/r/seduction04/01/20 06:23 PM
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So no actual advice just don’t become the guy who actually gets the women and keeps them ..... This is the way 100% I’m always open to learning new ideas and sure I got girls when I was more in the nice guy category but it was 100% on their terms and conditions and basically it was like I’m really muscular, goodlooking, tall , have a career and an also a musician so I looked good enough on paper for some girls who were specifically looking for a bf at that time. This is a huge mistake cuz you’ll…
/r/seduction04/01/20 06:11 PM
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You don’t wanna find that support from your girlfriend or wife, get it from your friends. You can talk about shit that you overcame or are a better man for but if your acting like an emotional or sensitive man around your girl for more than a week at a time cuz something serious happened. She will start to lose respect for you as a man and lose sexual interest in you. I see a professional for my personal shit not specifically to avoid stuff with your girlfriend but you can not talk to her like s…
/r/seduction04/01/20 05:34 PM
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None of what I wrote is being a dick at all it’s treating women like people and not acting like a supplicant Weiner pussy, you can continue doing whatever you’ve been doing and good luck with that lol The main thing I’m promoting is women are not interested in the guys who act like that so change your behaviors and stop clinging to a fantasy. If you adapt and do the things I said which is literally just don’t be a needy bitch and act like more of a man than they do will be the difference between…
/r/seduction04/01/20 05:28 PM
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I saw that show you with my girl and got on a rant when I saw a bunch of girls on Facebook writing that they wish they could meet a guy like this minus the serial killing. Which is all total bullshit but while I don’t think guys go to the extremes of these tv and movies they do go with the underlying nice guy mentality. They think that’s what girls want cuz they seem to love it. They just don’t like living it and are repulsed by cute sweet sensitive behaviors, especially when they first meet a g…
/r/seduction04/01/20 04:25 PM
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When you say hooked up did ya yo have sex? I’m just assuming you mean sex cuz kissing isn’t hooking up unless your in high school. she had an idea of you and on paper as a man. you looked good to her as an idea of a man but when you started talking with her you were probably asking a lot of questions and or having boring small talk conversation and this turned her off. It was either that or you acted kinda like a nice guy pussy who’s over respectful and putting her on A pedestal. The two are oft…
/r/seduction03/01/20 09:55 PM
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I don’t know, I personally like the combination of them 3 books while putting it into practice to build inner game. There is some info on inner game if you look for it but I’m a firm believer that you can’t get inner game with girls without actually getting girls. I’ve had some guys disagree with me on this but I don’t think they knew what they were talking about it. They started going the whole I’m seeking my validation through women for my inner gam thing. The inner game is basically just a de…
/r/seduction03/01/20 03:50 AM
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I recommend listening to the mystery book multiple times not reading it. It’s too textbooky and you wanna read it multiple times. False time constraint, negging,push/pull, qualifying, disqualifying, keno, demonstrate high value. I might be forgetting a thing or 2 but that’s basically all the game techniques in a nutshell. Night game mystery also has a lot to do with jealousy plot line and running pawns and stuff. I would practice opening implementing one game technique at a time until you’ve mas…
/r/seduction03/01/20 02:19 AM
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I would recommend 3 books, mystery method on audio (which you already read)but in text it’s literally like a text book and hard to comprehend, I like the Todd v system videos series for day game and how to be a 3 % man by Corey wayne if your problems more with keeping the girls interested or if you’ve ever struggle with that. The 3% man is more about behavior hanged and hanging these behaviors automatically makes you carry yourself better and more attractive. The day game system is I personally …
/r/seduction03/01/20 02:04 AM
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Hahahaha fine reading as hustler, I get it. I agree with you that online dating sucks cuz it’s 100% based on your looks but your presence is a huge part of what girls are attracted to and they can’t feel your confidence through a computer screen. I prefer irl as well but I think online dating worth at least exploring especially if your new to this stuff as you can come up with good stories and work out your order of operations while practicing your text game. Sometimes you get laid just don’t ma…
/r/seduction02/01/20 11:43 PM
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You can learn technique all you want the core of seduction is I believe the inner game personally. The outer game just builds the inner game. I was a guy who had more than a few girlfriends but they weren’t the girls I really wanted and I was just good looking enough and had enough going for me that some girls wanted a relationship with me but at that time I wasn’t really choosing them I was being chosen by them. Ideally you wanna choose eachother but you can’t be a chooser if you don’t have cho…
/r/seduction02/01/20 11:36 PM
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Use online dating when your bored and taking a shit or whatever.swipe a few girls message if you match but don’t use that as a safe way to approach women.
/r/seduction02/01/20 09:53 PM
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When you say get physical are you sleeping with the girls? Heavy makeout or a kiss at the end of the date?
/r/seduction02/01/20 09:51 PM
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If I found out she had a really high body count and somehow was in a multiple long term relationships I probably wouldn’t want her as a girlfriend but wouldn’t care about her being a sexual playmate. I’d feel like she either was sleeping around on her boyfriends or got bored of them and went crazy fucking every cock she could until she got bored of that and it would be a cycle she’s going to continue to repeat. I wouldn’t mind having some fun with her but I’m won’t put myself at risk being someo…
/r/seduction02/01/20 06:59 PM
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The technical stuff is just to get you talking to girls. If your petrified to go up and talk to a girl and make up excuse why you shouldn’t do it then somethings wrong in your programming. The technical stuff doesn’t even work all that well, it does work but it’s your confidence that they are attracted to. Confidence comes from knowing you can get the girl if you talk with her game technique helps give you confidence if you believe it works. I’m not even putting down technique as I still use a l…
/r/seduction02/01/20 06:43 PM
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The problem with your whole thing is some people want sex or a girl whatever and their current version of themselves is not attractive to women for whatever reason. If you adapt your personality and take on different behaviors you become these behaviors and personality. Your current personality and behaviors are the sum total of all your social programming good and bad that you’ve had sooo while I do think you should decide what’s important to you and why your changing not changing and just acce…
/r/seduction02/01/20 06:30 PM
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Your over thinking it, she wants you to be ballsy enough to kiss her. She wouldn’t be going on a date with you if she didn’t wanna be kissed
/r/seduction27/12/19 10:04 PM
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How old are you? Past 20 I wouldn’t ever write a girl thanking her for the great time hoping to see her again it’s such a gamble as to wether or not it works. If she really likes you you’ll be able to get away with this but if she’s kinda into you but not sure she’ll lose interest every single time so play the odds and don’t do that with any new girls you meet. Have you kissed her yet? Slept with her yet? Just remember a relationship doesn’t start until you’ve had sex, without sex your just frie…
/r/seduction27/12/19 09:31 PM
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They didn’t sleep around for years and got married to the first or second person they met. Because a lot of them didn’t have sex before marriage they would rush into marriage ASAP so they could have sex and then divorce was taboo so they would stay married even if they lost interest in each other.
/r/seduction27/12/19 09:16 PM
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I can tell by what you said your to indecisive with her. Simple things like she asks what you wanna watch on tv and you throw it back on her her to be nice and make her happy while hen she wanted you to pick. I can tell your doing weak and needy behaviors and a little bit timid in the bedroom. Your letting her past experiences dictate what your sex lifes like. So the girls in college were more wild do you think they were just like that? Some guys got them comfortable having that kinda sex by lea…
/r/seduction27/12/19 09:02 PM
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If you desire them and can’t stop thinking about them or being with them move on. Don’t drive yourself crazy. You could use the group to your advantage just by practicing flirting and working on using them as a form of social proof when you go out. Flirt with other girls in front of them and they might start showing interest start taking other girls home and they’ll see you in a new light but don’t count on ever getting out of the friendzone with them.
/r/seduction27/12/19 03:33 PM
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I’ve met some really hot ones who had a lot going for themselves but most girls on there are really overweight with bad tattoo choices and single moms. Every hot girl I’ve met irl has been on these apps too but they get bombarded with messages and if they are meeting guys irl they will go with him and ignore the app. You really gotta get lucky to meet a good one on there. That’s why I recommend just using as something you do when your taking a shit or bored on a Monday night and not as your prim…
/r/seduction26/12/19 05:56 PM
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A shit test is more of a way they see if your congruent with saying your confident. It’s like if a girl asks a guy if he’s a strong dominant male no guys is ever gonna say no to that day they have to use shit tests to see if your really one of the masculine strong ones and your actions Match your words. I always considered the term shit test cuz they usually do it by giving you shit about something and if you react negatively you fail the test but if you are indifferent and in control when they …
/r/seduction26/12/19 05:07 PM
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Right now I’m dating someone regularly but before that I had a ton of success. If the girl went on a date with me I’d say my success rate for sex and continued dates was 90% It was when I went on dates and tried to get to know them and all that getting a second date was a 50/50 gamble. I’m not saying I don’t find out anything about her but that’s not the goal at all as I’ll learn about her over the course of dating. Basically I would establish a connection and lead the interaction in a sexual di…
/r/seduction26/12/19 04:29 PM
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It helps but I’ve tried doing non shallow dating when I was younger and it’s a waste of time. Unattractive girls still want the same level of attention and do all the same annoying things hotter girls do so it’s really not worth it. I will say finding a nice balance is ideal, I wouldn’t ever date someone I wasn’t physically attracted to no matter how good her personality is again as it doesn’t work for me. We had a lot of arguments over the fact that I only wanted to sleep with her when I was su…
/r/seduction26/12/19 02:52 PM
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Use both to build your skill, don’t bank on online dating but text the same way you would approach a girl. Just jump right into playful conversation and don’t worry about getting to know her as if you sleep with her and date her you’ll get to know her gradually. I don’t have a clue about my dates brothers and sisters and shit like that until the 3rd or 4th date and I slept with her on the first. Getting to know them is huge mistake I think a lot of guys make on a date and it’s why they go out an…
/r/seduction26/12/19 02:20 PM
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If you start being decisive and assertive around women and other people you’ll see how easy it is to change as people will start to follow and look up to you. In a way this is still getting your validation from others at first but it goes away after a few months and you just kinda become the change.
/r/seduction24/12/19 11:50 PM
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Trying to impress them is a waste of time, do things you wanna do on a first date, I guess if that’s what you really wanna do it hen go for it but I’d do them kinda dates post sex but honestly getting a few drinks is a better first date as your trying to establish connection and sleep with her. This is how you get her out on 2nd and 3rd date, I barely even ask any questions , I just flirt with and tease them the whole time while pushing for physical intimacy is when I get and keep them intereste…
/r/seduction24/12/19 11:29 PM
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If your not at least a 5/10 she won’t give you a shot. If your at least a 5 and have good game you can make it happen. I’ve hooked up with girls who seemed unreceptive at first and warmed them up.i wasn’t their type the way I am done girls who are super welcoming but I was attractive enough for her to see what else I had to offer. If she don’t view you as at least a 5 your waisting your time. The hard part is figuring out if she views you as a 5 or lower when she’s not super receptive on the app…
/r/seduction24/12/19 04:41 PM
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Yeah all the pickup and dating coaches seem to copy each other while somehow also contradicting each other and just confusing everyone who’s totally inexperienced. I’m in the process of becoming a health coach for people in addiction, I. Halfway through my certification even though you don’t technically need it I figure it will make it easier to get clients especially for people who are used to being in a field of legit doctors and physiology professionals with degrees. I’m not really looking in…
/r/seduction24/12/19 04:09 AM
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Girls don’t respond to this be friends with her first approach to dating many guys take cuz of what they see In Tv and movies. In real life girls either view you a sexual partner potential or not if your a 5 in her eyes you got a shot but you’ll have to work harder and say all the right things while raising her attraction level towards you. If your below a 4 based on first impression you didn’t make the cut as a sexual partner and are just gonna be her friend. The only way to escape this is get …
/r/seduction24/12/19 03:47 AM
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A girl knows right away if your a potential sex partner or not and building friendly chemistry on a group won’t change this. I’m not saying no guys ever hung out with a girl in a group for a while and was able to fuck her but she woulda most likely slept with him way sooner or agreed to go out with hi. Right away. It’s like if your at least a 5 in her eyes you have potential to build her attraction more but your not gonna do that in a group setting and if your at least a 5 she’ll agree to go at …
/r/seduction24/12/19 03:40 AM
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It’s weak to eat her pussy if she won’t suck your dick. Just eating her pussy isn’t weak at all though,I personally love the smell and taste, you can dominate her whole eating her pussy by pinning her arms down at her side while you eat it if your really that concerned about it but as long as your not pleasing her with everything you have while she refuses to reciprocate it’s not weak.
/r/seduction24/12/19 03:24 AM
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You gotta get her chasing right from the very beginning, once you sleep with a girl is when you hold the power and can flip it on her and get her to chase as she now invested In you. You want her to be chasing about 70% of the time if she’s chasing you she’ll always be excited to see you and hear from you. She won’t move on to a new guy for excitement if she has it with you. If your text games really tight you can get her to chase before the first date. It takes a lot of feel and you gotta know …
/r/seduction24/12/19 03:02 AM
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Girls don’t realize the reason they don’t like aot of good guys for them is because they make the men chase and it’s an in unattractive trait in men. These are the guys with good stable jobs, decent looking and interested in her but she doesn’t even feel a spark or connection with. For a relationship to last long term she really had to be doing about 70% of the initiating. If she’s got a lot of options and she knows he’s never gonna leave cuz she has him she’ll be bored and if someone new comes …
/r/seduction24/12/19 02:52 AM
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You were to friendly with her and nut fun or flirty. Women don’t care what you have I. Common with them, they don’t care if they think your attractive. They have to feel that connection and see you as a sexual partner or they have no interest in giving you their number. If your talking about video games I and where she’s from I already know you were being to much of a nice guy, trying to be respectful and get to know her. This approach doesn’t work unless she finds you really physically attracti…
/r/seduction24/12/19 02:43 AM
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Yeah that whole just man up things terrible advice, It’s funny cuz I’m pretty successful myself while I wouldn’t call myself a master pickup artist or anything I’ve lost count of girls I’ve been with and am dating someone regularly now. I give detailed advice with examples on everything from how get her to chase you to how to schedule the date so she doesn’t flake and how to act on the date so you get laid or at least get a second date as every single girl won’t sleep with you on the first date …
/r/seduction24/12/19 02:27 AM
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I can tell you I went from being able to get a girlfriend but not keep her to being the one ending the relationships, went from going with the only girl I could really get to being able to choose from several cool attractive girls. I’m kinda over the numbers thing as I lost count on girls I’ve been with I prefer more of dating the same girl for a month or 2 and if theirs a connection and I really enjoy her I don’t mind being exclusive but I also don’t agree just because it’s a pretty girl who wa…
/r/seduction23/12/19 09:46 PM
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If a girl is on a date with you she is evaluating wether your a sexual partner potential or not. She often knows on the first date, not every girl will fuck you on the first date but you gotta try to sexualizing the date for. Next time don’t wait till the end of the date to kiss her. You don’t need to learn anything about her on the date. Your their to have fun and lead her to the bedroom not learn her hobbies and how many family member she has. This approach is boring for women and she got 3 mi…
/r/seduction23/12/19 09:28 PM
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Catfish are getting better lol They now pick real photos and erase all the geo tags and stuff cuz people learned all the tricks from the show.
/r/seduction23/12/19 08:52 PM
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It will def help you be more attractive to them but will not increase your options as they won’t throw themselves at you. You still gotta be able to talk with them, flirt with them and successfully lead them to the bedroom to have them as a dating option. Gym+style will make it easier as girls often make it much easier for guys their attracted to.
/r/seduction23/12/19 08:49 PM
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First start with the gym, buy nicer clothes to have a good style, find hobbies and things to fill your life with, get. Good job. Second not only read but apply game. You can’t just better yourself and expect to be good with girls or you’ll be one of them guys who looks good on paper but is boring as fuck and always seems to hear no connection, or I see you as more of a friend. Game is basically systematic flirting, and you have to be willing to face rejection. Buy and read a few books I recommen…
/r/seduction23/12/19 04:51 PM
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It sounds like you might not have a ton of girls to choose from, I could be wrong but that was how I felt before I got good with women and had a lot of options. The main thing I think most guys regret is settling for girls they aren’t really happy with because they don’t have many options so they lock one down they feel is good enough rather than be alone.
/r/seduction23/12/19 02:41 PM
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If you have a tight text game you can get them chasing you after the second day and then you do a phone call the day before the date you use it as a qualifier and it gives you a reason to call without seeming needy as you don’t meet with just any girl if that carry a conversation over the phone. Two days after suggesting the date is ideal but if you match and get her number the first night then ask her out the second, my ideal date would be Thursday or Friday. You have to ask when she’s free so …
/r/seduction23/12/19 10:55 AM
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Well I met her last year and she was insanely hot, the hottest girl (by far the I’ve ever even swiped on IMO ). If that’s what you took from that post your focused on the wrong things. The point of it was that if you do things in the right sequence and with a little bit of luck (they have to be physically attracted enough to message you) you can get the girl who’s getting thousands of messages a day. These types of girls are going out with somebody. I don’t like online dating much personally cuz…
/r/seduction23/12/19 12:22 AM
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You gotta get her out within a week -a week and a half max from first message. Every day you go past a week your percentage of seeing her drops like crazy. Also you gotta build enough comfort to make a girl meet a stranger over the internet and at least slightly sexualize the conversation while calibrating to the individual girls comfort and way she’s texting with you. I usually use the butt to do this as it can be very sexual but is also funny so it’s easy to play off as a joke if she gets offe…
/r/seduction22/12/19 11:30 PM
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Online dating does suck but you should use it in conjunction with regular dating. I’ve met a ton of great girls on there that I’ve slept with and dated including a former beauty queen. The problem is the hotter they are they have a million options and you really do have to figure out a good text style to keep her attention. I try to get them out within a week and a half of first message or else you usually don’t see them. Also you gotta be able to build comfort and just slightly sexualize the co…
/r/seduction22/12/19 11:21 PM
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Really? I mean there is definitely a lot of stuff I skipped over after I read it once, like his whole story about growing up and stuff but a lot of it about just how despite whatever they may say they still want men and to be the leader. A lot of info on communication. It’s definitely geared toward guys who are getting the dates but they aren’t going very far or they are sleeping with a girl and want a relationship but seem to get ghosted a lot as opposed to picking up the girls in the first pla…
/r/seduction21/12/19 02:31 PM
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That might be true on some levels but for the most part it’s because they display dominant independent behaviors and don’t look at o anyone for approval. It exciting for them and they all like a challenge and a chaseas they have to feel like they won the prize not the other way around. A lot of guys treat them like they are the prize and this behavior turns them off.
/r/seduction20/12/19 09:32 PM
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“So you think I’m cute? “
/r/seduction20/12/19 09:28 PM
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It’s. Or about playing hard to get it’s more not throwing yourself at her. She has to feel like she earned you attention and affection. Girls have to feel like they won you and your the prize not the other way around. If you try to push for a relationship they often feel like they are being trapped and run at that thought of losing their freedom. Best place to be in is if she doing at least 70% of the initial contacting if you wanna keep her interested long term she has to always be chasing you …
/r/seduction20/12/19 09:18 PM
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Don’t be hung up on what you have in common as it doesn’t matter in the beginning. That stuff matters if your dating her for compatibility reasons but girls will sleep with and date guys they have nothing in common with all the time, they just aren’t compatible long term with no shred interests or similarities. Also just having things in common and similarities won’t make a girl like you. Just have fun and flirt with her a little, tease her and act like a cocky guy who’s not to full of himself. …
/r/seduction20/12/19 09:09 PM
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But and read the book how to be a 3% man by Corey Wayne. It’s basically a relationship book not a seduction book but it has a very good list of weak behaviors and thing not to do. I found almost everything in the book is 100% accurate. As for your girlfriend it will explain a lot of why she probly seems like maybe she’s not all that into you anymore or sometimes seems like she has one foot out the door. A lot of guys don’t find this kind of material until it’s to late and they are tryna get a re…
/r/seduction20/12/19 03:10 PM
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I found it doesn’t matter what I write to them and I’ve met with and slept with and dated a lot of girls off online dating. What matters more is just jumping into fun playful conversation. The initial message doesn’t really matter as if they don’t find you physically attractive enough no message will make them respond. Easy rule of thumb is tease her on 1 outa every 3 answers to questions she answers. You don’t want it to feel like an interview or they get bored. (The interview style of texting …
/r/seduction20/12/19 02:41 PM
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I literally write hey you, how’s your day going? To every single girl bio or not. I found it makes no difference what I write. It’s either they find you physical attractive enough and like your pics enough to want to respond or they don’t. No well thought message will make them message you. Sure they’d rather see that you took the time to read their profile but this will not make them message you back unless they like your pics.
/r/seduction20/12/19 02:03 PM
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At the very least practice flirting with me very girl you meet and just approaching for the sake of approaching. Just to get some experience under your belt. Try not to have any expectations, a lot of girls will be uninterested right off the bat depending how heavy you are but that’s okay. Pay attention to who you wanna approach, they are most likely all in shape and fit. If you really wanna get laid before you lose the weight and approaching hotties isn’t working try approaching less desirable …
/r/seduction20/12/19 12:38 AM
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It’s definitely not a simple one to one, I feel that guys who get good at game get much more successful in other areas is their lives faster as they go from a mindset of scarcity to one of abundance and correlate it to other aspects of their life. I know quite a few people including my younger self who were very successful in all the aspects of their life but struggled in the women department. Even if their goal was to get a girlfriend and relationship they would have a really hard time getting …
/r/seduction20/12/19 12:20 AM
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Agreed 100% when they like you it’s so easy and fun. The main thing I learned was to treat the ones I like the same as the ones I don’t like and just be playful and tease every girl I encounter even if it’s someone’s mom. Obviously there’s degrees to that where your not gonna go over the top with someone’s mom or an older woman who’s 50 and Not attractive but you’ll notice they all wanna set you up with their friends , nieces and daughters. It just makes it easier to be that way when you meet a …
/r/seduction19/12/19 05:53 PM
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Talk with other girls and let her see it. Practice flirting with her a little more (this isn’t to get her interested cuz you can’t relay on that) this is a way to try and train yourself to not give a fuck while practicing flirting. Do it like flirt then walk away and leave her alone and flirt with someone else. Basically just practice flirting with a girl that hot so you don’t do the same thing with the next one. You already know you screwed up with her and she’s not interested so use her to pra…
/r/seduction19/12/19 04:43 PM
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Maybe the title was misleading, the body of context wasn’t really about the friendzone and being stuck in it. It was more for guys who go on the dates with women so their intentions have been made clear and they never seem to get past the first date and get told lets be friends or I like you as a friend, no spork , no connection or whatever. I can also say I haven’t got stuck in the friendzone with any girl I’ve met since I’ve changed my behaviors and attitude. I agree that doing that alone won’…
/r/seduction19/12/19 10:49 AM
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It’s more like you have to lead the interaction. They will often follow your lead however you act with them when they like you, especially if yous are ya going out a lot. You gotta lead the interactions from the first approach to first date, then get them to chase but they will ultimately start to mirror a lot of things you do and will converse with you similar to how you converse with them. You’ll notice this a lot when you go from meeting a girl to sleeping in it’s her once to twice a week if …
/r/seduction19/12/19 04:24 AM
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Do not ask questions like an interview unless you wanna just be friends. The purpose of a date is get her into you sexually and romantically not get to know her like a robot. Your gonna have to ask some questions obviously but you wanna tease her n some of her answers and just have fun with her, you’ll learn about how many brothers and sisters she has and all that stuff if you hit it off over time. Asking questions like how was work and how many brothers and sisters do you have? Are boring as al…
/r/seduction18/12/19 09:00 PM
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So instead ask when she’s free to get together? This way if she’s busy she won’t say I’m busy and then you gotta be like well how about Friday she’s like I’m busy fri and sat then your like Thursday and you just let her know you have nothing else going on and will give up any night you have to hang out with her. Also tell her you wanna call her before the date and make sure she isn’t crazy and can hold a conversation. Then call her the day before the date. This will eliminate a lot of the flamin…
/r/seduction18/12/19 05:38 PM
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Okay when you ask them out how do you word it?
/r/seduction18/12/19 05:29 PM
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Most guys I wrote this for are so stuck on the respectful side they have to completely jump on the sexual side and focus purely on that and it will balance them out. Their Initlal social programming won’t ever just go away only evolve. I know the harder I push on the sexual side and connect sexually the easier it is to connect on the personal level that part comes easy to a guy who was brainwashed into that super respectful way of thinking.
/r/seduction18/12/19 03:35 PM
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Try using more emojis and slowly build to full on teasing so she gets comfortable with it. The way I talk to girls the second day is a lot different than the first and it’s about them knowing what to expect from you while being comfortable and always keeping them on their toes. I mean it sucks you lost this one but you tried something different and sometimes that happens unfortunately. I like to add new things and try new things a lot too, it’s how you get good at game both text and irl. Trial a…
/r/seduction18/12/19 03:32 PM
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Don’t apologize to her, I don’t know what you said but sometimes things get misinterpreted through text. I’ve sent things that were clearly joking and teasing and they got mad. Not every girl responds to you game and personality and is compatible wit you. If your still matched wait a full week at least preferably on a Sunday or Monday night when people are typically home. I prefer Sunday cuz I think girls are more likely to be receptive as they had off all day and just had another single weekend…
/r/seduction18/12/19 03:12 PM
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Show interest with a hint of I’m indifference.
/r/seduction18/12/19 02:55 PM
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This guys right tv and movies are a huge part of the reason many guys don’t develop game or get nice guy syndrome. That along with religion. In real life it’s never that smooth and the girl doesn’t respond perfectly to everything you say. Even the movies where the guy has a player type personality like gosling in them Emma stone movies are bad examples. These movies are written by nerdy writer types who believe that of you treat a girl nice enough she’ll see how good a guy you are (obviously 100…
/r/seduction18/12/19 02:02 PM
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You gotta ask her to hangout with just you and see what she says, this will tell you if she likes you romantically or your just a friend she likes and keeps her company so she not a 5th wheel. Don’t go anywhere fancy, kiss her during the date, tease her and be playful.
/r/seduction18/12/19 01:54 PM
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Don’t do small talk, it’s boring not clear what you want and will not spark attraction in girls even if they are physically attracted to you. If your in a supermarket and a girls next to you (any age or attractiveness this is just for practice) and she reaches for a box of cereal as she grabs it just say something like “hey you literally just took the one I was going for with a serious face” she’ll often get all in sorry and literally try and give it to you cuz they aren’t used to stuff like thi…
/r/seduction18/12/19 01:51 PM
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Your right, if you even look at game from a 3rd party perspective it’s just systematic flirting for guys who are bad at it. A lot of the stuff does work if you implement it one thing at a time until you’ve mastered it but it is literally ways to get you into conversations long enough to practice banter and build some self confidence. I would recommend practicing banter through online dating apps. It’s easier to be witty behind a screen and one you have a smart ass answer for everything they coul…
/r/seduction18/12/19 01:36 PM
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And they just stop talking?
/r/seduction18/12/19 01:20 PM
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That’s a long time to keep her interested,honestly probly better to wait till she gets back and call her. Maybe send her one text while she’s on vacation. Unless you already got her chasing you you’ll just be annoying her trying to text her while she’s on vacation. It sucks but it’s gonna be a total gamble wether or not you’ll ever get to see her, I don’t know why she cancelled the first date which is important to pay attention to and read between the lines with. I’m not saying she’s faking her …
/r/seduction18/12/19 04:53 AM
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Don’t beg leave her alone and give her space. Read the book how to be a 3% man by Corey Wayne as you will figure out a ton of little things you were doing that turn her off. Just trust that things in the book work cuz from my experience they honestly do if you apply them and read the book 7-10 times like he says you’ll just embody the stuff and know how I handle certain situations. Unfortunately If your young there is no book or attitude that will 100% work for keeping your girl interested as gi…
/r/seduction18/12/19 04:35 AM
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Online dating don’t give direct compliments. You can compliment them but do it in a way that’s different than everyone else sucking up to her. I might say “ you look decent 😜😂 “ or “eww gross😂😂” especially if they are sending me a picture. The girls send pics and every guy on the internet validates then like crazy but being indefinitely positive about her pics or obviously teasing her telling her that her pic was gross and she knows your joking. I’ll often do a direct approach with a compliment …
/r/seduction18/12/19 12:34 AM
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It’s something in your timeline that’s fucking up for you. The way it sounds your conversation is entertaining but then you lose then instantly when you switch to text but I need to know how long it is before you get the number and then are they responding at all in text? Also how long do they wait between texts when in tinder and in sms. It doesn’t matter what you invite them to if you lose them before the date.
/r/seduction18/12/19 12:16 AM
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How long before you eat there number and when are you asking for the date?
/r/seduction18/12/19 12:12 AM
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How to be a 3% man by Corey Wayne, it’s not much on pickup or getting them attracted but it makes it much easier to approach women when you know what they want and can predict their behaviors. The book focuses on getting and keeping girlfriends,wives and relationships but it makes comprehending game stuff way easier and makes it easier to have a mindset shift. You’ll still have to approach though, you have to read the book 7-10 times like he says and actively apply it. Once you see how well it w…
/r/seduction18/12/19 12:08 AM
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I can tell you first hand a lot of the stuff works but I believe a lot of the guys selling things are frauds. A lot of he techniques do work and very well but you have to approach enough and try then to find your own rhythm. If you just run a simple push pull successfully you’ll see the girl enjoys it thoroughly smiles and laughs every single time ( a lot of times with an arm squeeze) it has to seem natural though and if you think about it from 3rd party it’s really just flirting. This guy in th…
/r/seduction18/12/19 12:04 AM
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If you look at the game and picture it from a 3rd party perspective it’s basically a systematic approach to flirting for guys who don’t know how to flirt at all. I think you gotta be at least a5 or better in her eyes to have a chance but when she views you as a 5 if you have good game (doesn’t have to be all technical but are fun and smooth with girlS)you can absolutely raise her attraction level. I’ve seen guys who were told the girl liked them and thought he was so hot and he fucked it up and …
/r/seduction17/12/19 11:40 PM
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You keep ignoring my point I’m very much into the inner game as that’s what you ultimately wanna develop but I don’t know anyone who got good at talking with girls without actually talking with them was my point, just working on inner game won’t magically get you girls. You still gotta put yourself out there and learn to interact with them in the age that gets the response your looking for. We will just have to agree to disagree on this.
/r/seduction17/12/19 10:11 PM
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Do you think visualizing being good At basketball having never dribbled a ball before will make you good? That’s my argument here telling someone to just be confident and develop inner game falls on def ears, you won’t just be good at talking with girls cuz you feel better about yourself. You’ll appear slightly more attractive to them especially if your working out but you have to actively talk with women to o get good at talking to them. Why do you think puas preach inner game but start with ap…
/r/seduction17/12/19 09:17 PM
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I get that, so when your with a friend tell him your gonna go talk with that girl. Just saying that will make you wanna force yourself to do it so you don’t seem like a bitch after saying your gonna do it. Also try finding a wingman who’s into on reddit, I found one and became friends on this same reddit.
/r/seduction17/12/19 02:38 PM
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No prob try finding someone else who’s into this stuff and or can keep you accountable.
/r/seduction17/12/19 02:32 PM
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Your still not reading what I’m saying. How do you tell someone to just have inner game and be confident? Also being confident with women is different than being confident in other aspects of your life. I had looks ,was in great shape and was a very confident guitar player who played in a band. I also had a high paying career and was extremely confident in my abilities as a worker musician the way I looked but it didn’t make be better with women. You have to know you can get women to be able to …
/r/seduction17/12/19 02:25 PM
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It’s always gonna be there, just bite the bullet and do it cuz it won’t get any better. The limiting beliefs and mindset change comes after you put this stuff into practice and get positive feedback. You have to reprogram you subconscious with positive input. Just face your fears and do it, try one game technique at a time and as you get positive feedback you’ll start feeling better about it.
/r/seduction17/12/19 02:17 PM
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Yeah if you read to much theory you get stuck in your head more. Basically try implementing one game technique at a time.
/r/seduction17/12/19 02:02 PM
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That’s actually a myth but I’m not talking about just promiscuity. Even if she’s a good wife that doesn’t believe in divorce, who wants to be in a romance and sex free roommate style relationship for the rest of their life? If you go to a nursing home they are all fucking like crazy people don’t lose their sex drive or desire as they get older they just lose it for their partner. What I’m saying is be the guy they desire to be with in the first place not the guy they agreed to let sleep with the…
/r/seduction17/12/19 02:01 PM
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Your reading it wrong, your assuming this what they want and even if they do want it what I’m saying is when all the relationship stuff runs dry the only thing left is desire that doesn’t just go away so are they gonna desire to be with you or someone else?
/r/seduction17/12/19 01:57 PM
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Also I know you said you told her you want her which sometimes can be good being direct like that but since she’s got a guy she already invested more into that approach isn’t working. while she obviously knows you want her day things to her like “your okay” and “kinda cute” with a smile on your face that she knows your kidding but that verbal indifference where it’s like she knows your like her but there’s a tiny chance you might be serious when you say she’s okay or just kinda cute. This makes …
/r/seduction17/12/19 05:41 AM
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Yeah don’t text her unless she texts you again but flirt and tease her at work. Don’t respond to her text this time if she texts you again tomorrow wait till the next day if it’s after 8pm just give her what she’s giving you, Make your texts enticing so she actually wants to respond. Every 3 texts should be teasing her or joking playfully with her. If she takes an hour to respond you take an hour and every 3 texts try to break the time gap to show her it’s safe to text back and forth freely. If …
/r/seduction17/12/19 05:34 AM
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I’m not disagreed with you that inner game is what ultimately gets girls, in saying telling someone to just have it doesn’t work. Outer game feeds the inner game from getting positive feedback from what your doing and then you just sorta know that girls want you. It wasn’t till I started actively practicing outer game that my inner game really got to the point I just knew I could get the girl I wanted. Meditation and reading stuff on mindset change is def all good things but without actively app…
/r/seduction17/12/19 05:23 AM
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If she hits you up again respond to her texts but dont ask her out, be flirty and tease her. Let her chase you for attention and after about 3-5 times of her reaching out for your attention ask her when she’s free to meet up. don’t respond to pics of her with other guys or other guys, if she send a picsof her tell her she looks “decent ” or say “you looks gross😂” I get girls with online dating consistently by doing this, they send pics constantly for validation and 95% of guys are all just telli…
/r/seduction17/12/19 05:02 AM
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Inner game is more important but I don’t believe you can develop inner game without positive reinforcement from outside sources reprogramming your subconscious. Outer game feeds inner game slowly then it flips over and the inner game feeds the outer game. To just tell someone who’s never had a positive conversation where a girl flirts with him and seduces her to just be confident and have inner game doesn’t do anything. Outer game won’t get them girls at first either cuz their inner game sucks b…
/r/seduction17/12/19 03:18 AM
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Just start dating, once you realize they are just people and all have issues and behave basically the same you won’t care about it. Mindset change stuff works but it has to be in conjunction with actual change and progress. You could read about game and girls and theory all day everyday and never get good with them the same way you can read about mindset change all day and it won’t just change. You may even feel or comprehend the mindset change for a day or two while reading about it but it won’…
/r/seduction17/12/19 03:12 AM
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Don’t let women push you around or guilt you into stuff you don’t wanna do if they aren’t doing stuff they don’t want to do. Everyone has to do some things they don’t want to do in a relationship like go to certain family functions and whatnot but if you find yourself eager to go to her stuff and she won’t go to your stuff is a big red flag your doing g something wrong. Don’t be a supplicant wiener like all the tv dads and always trying to do things to please her for her approval. Don’t treat yo…
/r/seduction17/12/19 01:57 AM
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This is all good advice and especially the phone call part makes you stand out. I also found telling her to text you when she gets home safe is a good gauge of interest level and makes her feel like she’s important but don’t be all like I had a great time or anything, if she says hey I just got home simply say okay good and don’t text her again for a full day unless she texts you first(don’t ignore her text) if she says I had a great time tonight respond with something like yeah you were alright…
/r/seduction16/12/19 12:55 AM
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It’s attitude and dominance turns them on, also don’t treat them like your mom, this is where a lot guys screw up, they stop acting like independent men deep into the relationship and the wife’s maternal instincts kick in when she’s cooking, cleaning, Doing his laundry and buying clothes for him and shit. This is stuff mothers do for their sons. A father doesn’t seek his daughters approval but a son seeks his mothers and tries to please her. Guys with “high value” on paper may not demonstrate “h…
/r/seduction16/12/19 12:31 AM
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Implement one theory thing at a time until you mastered it and don’t over read. The stuff does work but if you try and do it all it’s way to overwhelming. I recommend starting with a push pull until it feels natural coming out don’t even worry about getting numbers or laid if your really bad at talking with girls just try and make them laugh and flirt with them. If you look at game technique from a 3rd party’s perspective it’s really just flirting and teasing them but it’s a more systematic way …
/r/seduction16/12/19 12:01 AM
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Read the books how to be a 3% man by Corey Wayne, it doesn’t have much on pickup but a lot of great advice on how to handle dating in general and not appearing needy. Every guy goes through what you are going through in high school and most wont see get with any girls until college, Read that book and practice flirting with them with no other goal in mind. Flirt with them and leave and know they will like you cuz all the other thirsty guys will follow them around like puppies begging for their a…
/r/seduction15/12/19 10:41 PM
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If a girl asks you this again say something like “wouldn’t you like to know? And I don’t kiss and tell” just keep it vague and give the impression you have women all the time. Even if your already friend zoned with them or they may have boyfriends. Flirting with these girls makes them still sorta like you and they will view you as potential for one of their hot girlfriends. I used to never be at all flirty with friends wives and girlfriends and while I have no interest in them and I don’t cross …
/r/seduction15/12/19 07:11 PM
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Everyone guys and girls go for the highest quality of looks status and financial stability they can get. It’s not necessarily a bad thing it’s just the way it is. I found girls go for a combination of the 3 it’s not 100 % about looks unless they are looking for strictly sex in which case why wouldn’t they pick the best looking guy? Even then though I’ve seen really good looking guys struggle to get girls cuz they had no balls and were shy and timid so they picked the next attractive man with a m…
/r/seduction15/12/19 07:03 PM
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I have a girl, you can choose to read it as a negative thing if you want but it was more to try and give motivation to someone who’s maybe new to the idea of this stuff and let them know how much greener the grass is on the other side. I’ve lived life as all 3 at different points in my life and am not really into trying to sleep with as many women as I can (I stopped caring about when i lost count)but I can tell you it’s 100% better to be the guy women desire and want to be with thank someone wh…
/r/seduction14/12/19 06:35 PM
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It’s not about the sex specifically it’s about being the guy the girls desire to have sex with. Most married couples rarely have sex or any intimate connection after a few years of marriage but that desire for sex and intimacy doesn’t go away they just don’t have it for one another. I think a big part of it is guys get married and treat the women like their moms constantly seeking. Their approval and expecting the wife to take care of them for some reason and then her maternal instincts kick in …
/r/seduction14/12/19 06:24 PM
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Yeah I disagree with this, have you had one guy who became your best friend first that you dated?
/r/seduction14/12/19 01:21 PM
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What’s your skill level? I have a friend who into getting into game as well and may be looking for a wingman. We are both 30 though, if your not very skilled you’d be better off finding someone who’s more advanced and can teach by demonstration do it’s not the blind leading the blind.
/r/seduction13/12/19 09:53 PM
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How old are you?
/r/seduction13/12/19 05:35 PM
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Also look up the system by Todd v is probably the best for day game and game in general.
/r/seduction13/12/19 10:56 AM
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Try mystery method on audio, on text it’s literally like a textbook and hard to read.the natural pickup artist, attracting women,ultimate pickup artists playbook.
/r/seduction13/12/19 10:56 AM
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Yeah it’s not very good for the initial attraction or getting her number but it’s great for everything once you got the number. I can say that reading that book 10 times like he says while I was dating different girls and 1 short relationship that I ended and applying the stuff throughout made me way more confident and therefore way more attractive in the initial approach. I’ve read a lot of good books and there’s a bunch of good ones on the initial attraction as well ,plus I have a lot of my ow…
/r/seduction13/12/19 10:37 AM
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Yeah it’s just technically hard to workout with weights and talk with someone but anyone can walk on a treadmill and talk. The wait until they leave thing can be okay but the timing. On that has to be perfect and you don’t wanna approach then in the actual parking lot if you hadn’t even made eye contact with them is just really low chances of success and you don’t wanna develop a rep of being a creep. If your every girl likes a guy who’s successful with women but they dislike a guy who isn’t or …
/r/seduction12/12/19 04:28 PM
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Mindset change and true change is 20% theory and 80% execution and practice. You gott implement things in small increments. It’s to much to do all at once, pick one thing and work that into your interactions when you don’t have trouble doing that anymore combine another thing with it and keep adding. All theory with no practice makes you freeze and leaves you stuck in your head. It’s the equivalent of watching a sport like hockey your whole life knowing everything about it but when you lace up s…
/r/seduction12/12/19 03:51 PM
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I talk to and flirt with girls at the gym all the time, they all have headphones on . I’d say 8/10 like it , I don’t do it when they are on weights cuz I’m there to workout as well and I can’t talk and lift but when I do cardio I talk to someone everytime I go 8/10 are receptive and want to have a conversation cuz most people are listening to the same songs or same tv show they watched and heard a million times.so naturally they’d rather talk with a fit attractive fun guy. You can tell when they…
/r/seduction12/12/19 03:46 PM
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Yeah don’t do a pub with her if you aren’t 100% you can get both of you in. If you know you can she’ll be turned on by it but if you get carded and booted she’ll be turned off.
/r/seduction12/12/19 03:35 PM
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Can you drink at 17 in uk?
/r/seduction12/12/19 03:33 PM
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It’s worked 100% for me since I came up with it last year. So you just got 12 years of cultivating that move at 17 lol I wish they had this stuff when I was younger. Also at 17 you wanna kiss her on 3rd date but it’s not outa the norm to go on a date or 2 before kissing I mean you def coulda kissed her on the first date but the younger you are the more weak behaviors you can get away with. It’s good your dating young cuz once your about 24 the girls dealt with so much nice guy/weak behavior they…
/r/seduction12/12/19 03:32 PM
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So if you go out to eat again go to a place where you can sit in an L shape instead of directly across from her. Or go to a pub where you can get food and has a pool table. I’m terrible at pool but I talk like I’m the greatest and then when I suck I blame it on her distracting me, it’s funny and works everytime. Even as I’m not doing good I still act like I’m a pool shark is funny. Don’t ever make real excuses for not being good at something. It looks weak, she obviously knows I’m joking when I …
/r/seduction12/12/19 03:26 PM
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I should warn you if you plan on going for the kiss that way and don’t do it your gonna be in your head the rest of the date thinking about how your gonna do it. Execute plan A butHave a plan B cuz If you don’t kiss her on this date your heading towards the friendzone. Obviously that’s not 100% and I don’t know your age (which matters) but typically at 32 if I don’t go for the kiss on the first date and I don’t sleep with a girl by the 3rd date it goes nowhere
/r/seduction12/12/19 03:21 PM
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If she acts weird make it a joke and like it’s all her fault for looking so sexy. Then kiss her again and tell her okay that one was my fault. I’ve kissed girls I’ve never even met in real life with this before I’ve said a word to them and it’s works. It’s all about reading her response if she’s shocked or taken back blame it on her (as a joke) but make sure you kiss her again and take responsibility, if she says why you kiss me this time? Say cuz I wanted to and this erases any doubt in her min…
/r/seduction12/12/19 03:18 PM
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Also Christmas shopping is not a very good date it’s Christmas shopping. Do something where you can connect a little and have fun if you go to dinner try a hibachi grill. The foods awesome there’s something in front of you and your sitting next to her instead of across from her so she won’t see you nervously fidgeting or breaking eye contact cuz it’s normal to break eye contact and look forward at the cook in this instance. The only negative is if your trying to get to know her better and get in…
/r/seduction12/12/19 03:11 PM
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Here’s what you do kiss her before the date, give her a real hug when you see her take a step back while still keeping your hands on her waist and kiss her. Either that or look up videos on the gangster and do that.its when you put your drink down in the middle of the date stand up walk over put her drink drown even if it’s in her hands and take her by the chin kiss her and sit back down. After I do this move I like to either say a “what!?” Like I’m challenging her to say something is fun or tel…
/r/seduction12/12/19 03:08 PM
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But and read the book how to be a 3% man by Corey Wayne, there’s a lot of other good books out there but this one has a good general way of acting wand being to get and keep women interested in you. I don’t know if it was a girlfriend or girl you liked and got rejected but either way the book will help and it will also help with the pain as you realize all the mistakes your making and been making it makes it much easier to feel confident you’ll do better with the next one.
/r/seduction12/12/19 01:34 PM
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I should clarify it doesn’t have to be exactly 1 outa 3 things but I’m just tryna give you some space don’t tease every single thing they say but every couple things pick on them a little and if they say your mean or stop picking on me say “ you like it” in a slightly cocky yet playful tone that says your just having fun but asserting yourself as a dominant male. If a girl says no I don’t I’ll reply with “okay We can pretend you don’t , I’ll play along” It’s like having a loophole for everything…
/r/seduction12/12/19 02:49 AM
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As simple as 1 outa every 3 things they say tease them about it. Example you ask nicki Minaj or cardi b she says cardi b you say eewwww gross (in a joking term) what’s wrong with you your lucky your cute or we’d be ending this conversation right now why did you pick her? This is a simple example and it can be about anything you like and it helps if it’s something she honestly has an opinion on as well. It still works if they have no interest in the topic but it helps and works even better if the…
/r/seduction12/12/19 02:30 AM
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I prob I get it that you want them and on some level if you wanna fuck girls you have to do some level of Pershing then in the very beginning but it sounds like you know these girls so I’m just pointing out that they liked whatever you were doing before and be aware that your more interested in them now than they are of you cuz it affects your behavior so try and act just like you were before and tease them.
/r/seduction12/12/19 02:16 AM
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Do not tell these girls you like them , do what you did to attract them in first place and then show them . It also sounds like you in approval seeking mode with them when you said “how do I win them over again” if you go into it trying to get them to like you you’ll just turn them off. Tease them a little and give them the same attention you were before. When you can feel they are coming around again go for it.
/r/seduction12/12/19 01:48 AM
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If wait till at least Sunday to call her if she don’t reach out.Call her Sunday or Monday night (most people are free Sunday night at 7) if she don’t respond wait that’s 2 ignores wait 3 full weeks - month.give her space and let her come to you. Also you already pointed out that you would catch some shit over apologizing but don’t explain yourself and don’t apologize for being being busy. Lose the word sorry from your vocabulary all together unless you honestly hurt her and she’s your girl. The …
/r/seduction12/12/19 01:31 AM
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I prefer a little structured stuff in the very beginning to get the conversation rolling and then going natural works best for me.. Getting her into what your saying and the conversation rolling is often the hardest part so I use canned routines I cane up with over my years of dating and once my Initial aa goes away and the girls answering me and conversing makes it much easier to go natural.
/r/seduction12/12/19 01:19 AM
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How old are you? I don’t ever add people on social media even if I’m dating and sleeping with them. I don’t use it and only have it cuz I like to keep up with the memes occasionally when I’m bored. Grown men are to busy to deal with social media or post shit but it may be a little different if your under 23-24 I don’t think it’s a dlv if they ask to add you tell them I only take phone numbers I don’t do social media if I get won’t give you a number do a takeaway and say okay that’s cool I’m to b…
/r/seduction12/12/19 01:15 AM
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Discomfort is different than disinterest. If she’s showing discomfort she’s in your presence and your actively doing something to fast for her at that moment but she wouldn’t be her if she didn’t wanna be she just may not be ready yet so take a step back keep doing g what you e been doing and then try 1 more time and if she denies you just keep doing it hat your doing look into her eyes and say I’m in no rush then keep doing what you’ve been doing. That was more for if your already at your place…
/r/seduction11/12/19 08:48 PM
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Of she says I have a boyfriend I say no you don’t or your a little liar in a tone that says I’m joking (with a smile) and this seems to shake them up and outa the whole auto response sometimes they give me their number and sometimes they liked my interaction but after I called them out still told me they had a boyfriend I just tell them “that’s to bad we woulda been good together” some say I know some say,thank you, some make it a point to prove they have a boyfriend cuz they liked whatever I wa…
/r/seduction11/12/19 08:42 PM
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You gotta be at least a 5/10 to her to be able to raise her attraction level but 1st impressions are insanely important n that includes looks
/r/seduction11/12/19 08:08 PM
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Also glad your not one of those girls who jumps down my throat on here for being blunt and honest. They make it out like I’m tricking them into liking a guy or a woman hater or something and write some seriously fucked up stuff but I’m just tryna aid in men and women ultimately getting what they want In relationships (I think sex is 30-50% of a relationship, otherwise you are just really good friends) and while I’m glad you want to see op get what he wants telling him to ignore parts of my advic…
/r/seduction11/12/19 06:57 PM
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So the reason your girlfriends go on all these dates with guys that look good on paper but nothing ever materializes is because these guys are the kind of guys who don’t know how to peak a woman’s interest and get her excited emotionally and sexually. If you try and cater to women Individually you are seeking their approval and working to get them to like you by changing things about yourself to fit their particular look or personality and this fails 9/10 times. There’s always exceptions to the …
/r/seduction11/12/19 06:46 PM
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Reading women’s comfort comes with time but basically it’s more about reading their discomfort cuz no girl the first time your out with her says take me back to your place and fuck me lol (maybe if your a start athlete celebrity or big shot but Ive never experienced it on the first date and I’m sure it’s very rare) So basically you have to start some keno and see if she’s comfortable being touched then you have to kiss her and see how she liked that, same with when she’s on your couch at your pl…
/r/seduction11/12/19 05:26 PM
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Yeah one of the biggest things I can tell you is tease her on some of her answers to your questions. Don’t just agree with her 100% even if you honestly agree with everything she likes and don’t disagree but then say well I see your point too and try and validate her opinion. It just turns them off. She’s aloud to like what she likes your aloud to like what you like don’t change your opinion to match hers. That’s where the advice of just be yourself comes into play, yes you wanna be yourself but…
/r/seduction11/12/19 05:19 PM
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I’ve had the nicest most innocent looking girls be the biggest freaks In The bedroom, all girls like sex and want sex. You won’t enter a romantic relationship without having sex first in today’s world(unless under 18 maybe under 20) it goes sex and fun and don’t be the one to ask for the relationship even if you want it, be patient and wait for her to start bringing it up. She has to feel like it was her idea or girls often feel like they are being trapped or will lose their freedom if they ente…
/r/seduction11/12/19 02:47 PM
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Generally rule of thumb to follow is your gonna have to ask some questions or make some statements about her to find out about her and build comfort so tease her on 1 out of 3 of her answers. Also don’t explain yourself and lose the word sorry from your vocabulary even if it’s sarcastic, it turns women off fast if they aren’t super enamored by your looks and are unsure if they are into you. If a girl is on a date with you she likes you enough to have sex with you or she wouldn’t be going on the …
/r/seduction11/12/19 02:16 PM
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Thanks without specific questions I could write a book on this stuff but the op seemed like he needed a good basic play by play. I do everything exactly like I listed but usually a little more aggressive than that even, I dialed it down a little cuz the op doesn’t seem very experienced and I don’t wanna give advice that could encroach on him overstepping her comfort if he’s not good at reading women yet.
/r/seduction11/12/19 02:07 PM
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When your doing online dating like this guy describes you have talked to the person for hours to be comfortable meeting them in person.so trust me do the real hug she will not be weirded out and will actually be more comfortable. Every girl tells me they wouldn’t like it when they hear I do this but every girl I do this with feels super comfortable with means it’s a million times easier to flirt and have fun with her. As for the gangsta move seeming super controlling girls find it sexy hot and c…
/r/seduction11/12/19 05:28 AM
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This is a lot of info and I wrote it to someone else earlier but this will help you too especially when you actually get the girl on the date.(don’t call it a date, call it getting together) date often has a very negative stigma to it as if it’s a huge deal to you and if she’s not sure if she’s interested in you or not yet you often won’t ever get her out to find out. Try when you meet her to start go for a real hug and give her a bear hug like you’ve known her forever.this will make her more co…
/r/seduction10/12/19 03:55 PM
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Start interacting and dating them.
/r/seduction10/12/19 03:52 PM
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Read it a bunch of times until you memorized it and could tell me how to do it so when you get to that point you don’t screw it up. Focus on the first half about teasing her on her answers doing the gangster and teasing her first.
/r/seduction10/12/19 03:29 PM
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Don’t wait cuz when you get whatever you think you’ll need then you’ll find something else you feel you have to have so don’t hesitate. I have all kinds of things I’m working on but don’t have yet and I still get laid all the time, Money and all that shit is good and if you aren’t bettering yourself or working on what you need to fix they will lose interesting between 3-6 months usually, if your making progress they’ll stay around if your a strong dominant assertive male cuz they are so hard to …
/r/seduction10/12/19 03:28 PM
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There really is no difference, I just don’t use the word date cuz to some girls it sounds to serious and if they or on the fence about them you won’t see em most of the time. Technically a hangout would be if they come over your place hangout and have sex you don’t take them anywhere, if you got out call it hanging out or getting together is still a date but without the negative stigma that word sometimes has around it (like this is a serious thing) girls just wanna have fun so go out have fun w…
/r/seduction10/12/19 03:14 PM
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Try when you meet her to start go for a real hug and give her a bear hug like you’ve known her forever.this will make her more comfortable right off the bat, don’t ask questions like an interview actually talk to her. An easy type of thumb you could use is if your asking questions or making statements tease her 1 out of every 3 answers and 1 outa 5 answers your give to her questions make funny. Pick a place where it’s not weird to sit next to eachother like a hibachi grill or a table with 4 chai…
/r/seduction10/12/19 03:10 PM
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Muscles won’t get you girls but they will definitely make it easier and help but won’t get her into your bedroom or relationship of any kind
/r/seduction08/12/19 02:52 PM
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If you already kissed her say “I know” but in way that’s firm and assertive and then sometimes kinda laugh like you don’t take yourself too too seriously. If you didn’t kiss her yet I would flip it and put words in her mouth”so what your really saying is you want me to kiss you.” Before she can say anything go for it.
/r/seduction07/12/19 11:29 PM
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If your good enough at seducing you can literally be as touchy geeky as you want to her arms and shoulders and stuff, I recommend asking a question or makin. A statement and teasing her about her answer every 3 questions or so.
/r/seduction07/12/19 08:53 PM
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If you read and apply that book 💯 once you start seeing positive results from backing off it becomes really easy to not text her even if your only dating one girl. the mystery method also refers to them being like cats and so does a few other books cuz it’s so on point lol If they are crazy into you it doesn’t natter and you can get away with to much attention but even that in my experience leads to them losing interest if you just keep giving yours. I had a girlfriend agree to be exclusive afte…
/r/seduction07/12/19 05:55 PM
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Both and over texting which falls under trying to hard. You have to pursue some in the very beginning cuz yous have to lead the interaction they won’t do it even for the captain of the football team. They just kinda put themselves in your world and make it obvious they like him but he still has to lead the interaction. When she starts to back off you can’t chase harder. Most guys see shit in tv and movies that say if you just try hard enough and are a nice enough guy you’ll wear her down and she…
/r/seduction05/12/19 07:03 PM
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Thanks,I’m working on becoming a recovery coach, I was contemplating doing dating coaching as well, half the guys in active addiction are their cuz they are depressed about never getting respect of girls they like,sex or relationships and they found using drugs or alcohol numbs that’s pain.
/r/seduction05/12/19 06:38 PM
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Trial and error lol Im 32 been working at it since tinder got popular. I would highly recommend the book how to be a 3% man by Corey Wayne, it doesn’t have much info on conversation tips but has really good info on how to adjust your behavior to attract women and keep them attracted to high is equally as hard. Basically a lot of guys get a girlfriend or wife and turn into a supplicant wiener or man servant cuz they are afraid they are gonna lose her and this turns her off. Women don’t wanna teac…
/r/seduction05/12/19 04:57 PM
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Think of it from a 3rd party looking in , a push pull is just you teasing her.
/r/seduction05/12/19 03:42 PM
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It’s not so much the question it’s how you reap d to the answer, if your ask her do you like rap music yes or no? She says yes You say something like okay good cuz if you didn’t like rap I don’t think we’d be very compatible 😜😂 If she says no I hate it You say “what!?! Hang on I can’t believe you don’t like rap if I didn’t like your hair (or your lips or whatever you like about her) we’d have to end this conversation right now. 😜😂 It just like playful banter on some of her answers. Not ever answ…
/r/seduction05/12/19 03:28 PM
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Lol I don’t know wether it was spell check autocorrecting or the fact that when I write these things I have to basically go into speed rant mode almost cuz it’s a lot of info to try and text out to people. Very easy to lose train of thought but ultimately you knew what I was tryna say 😂
/r/seduction05/12/19 02:33 PM
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Really your gonna grill me on a spelling error? Lol
/r/seduction05/12/19 02:20 PM
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Do you have vanilla sex or are you do I ant in the bedroom? Almost every girl has a fantasy of being dominated but they won’t tell you that because it’s not “strong or p.c. With today’s word” but it’s much easier if they enjoy your dominance and I don’t mean whips and chains even, it can be as simple as pinning her arms behinds her head and don’t ask her for things tell her, there is a reason 50 shades of grey was so huge and written by a woman. It’s gonna be harder to just turn on dominance wit…
/r/seduction05/12/19 02:15 PM
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In the beginning you want to run a little game to get you started. If your best line when you talk to girls is “hey you come here often?” You won’t even get to talk with them naturally. Learn some game even a basic push pull and as you start getting positive feedback your confidence with women will build and you’ll be able to be more comfortable being yourself in interactions then if you want you can slowly gaze out the game techniques and see how it works for you.
/r/seduction05/12/19 02:05 PM
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If you think a relationship will make you happy and your overall life isn’t happy and fulfilled a relationship won’t make you happy. I can’t tell how often your getting laid and if the girls your sleeping with are the girls you wanna be with from your post cuz that matters. Basically you wanna just sleep with them continuously until they start pushing for a relationship cuz if your the one pushing for it you’ll scare off 90% of the girls your tryna lock down. They feel like they are gonna lose t…
/r/seduction05/12/19 02:01 PM
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You gotta get and keep their attention fast, you can’t ask simple questions like what do you do for fun or work? They get hundreds of guys messaging them everyday,I’ve had a lot of success on there but don’t use that as what your counting on just a tool to possibly meet someone you wouldn’t have otherwise crossed paths with and maybe on a Monday night when your at home. You can’t bank on tinder or you’ll get frustrated but obviously you gotta build comfort for the girl to wanna come meet you irl…
/r/seduction05/12/19 01:08 PM
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Just talk to her honestly about it. Realistically it’s not probly not gonna work and you’ll both end up getting hurt when one dumps the other and is in a relationship or dating someone else wishing a week. Just say hey I wanna talk with you about us moving, then say something like I really like you and like spending time with you and I wanna keep doing that until we move but It’s gonna be hard to continue seeing eachother when we move. Something like that but in your own words, also 1 month I do…
/r/seduction05/12/19 12:46 PM
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You gotta turn up the flirting . I can’t tell if she’s not completely into you or just like a super super goody good girl 3 dates is a lot to not kiss especially if she’s willing to go to your apartment. Somethings not really lining up but go on the date and make sure you get the kiss on 3rd date. Look up the move the gangster tease her a little and I would do that but take her chin and lead it to your face. Most girls wait till 3rd date to fuck not kiss so I would def go for the kiss again , I …
/r/seduction05/12/19 06:33 AM
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As for your ex, it’s always gonna be easier for a girl after a relationship. Most girls will be dating a new guy one day after yous break up. They wait until they have someone new lined up before breaking up with you. It sucks but just prepare to experience it a lot and try not to take it so serious or to heart it’s just what they do. They are insecure about being alone so even though they lost interest in you they won’t break up with you until they know someone new is interested 100% At least s…
/r/seduction05/12/19 06:26 AM
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Practice just talking with them first and don’t have so you come here a lot conversations. Start with a false time constraint works great , then ask them a simple or stupid question and tease them on their answer.start talking be the one to leave the conversation first make sure you say hi to the girls when you see them again.
/r/seduction05/12/19 06:17 AM
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No problem I should also say you wanna make sure your not doing all the initiating you want her to be doing like 70% of it, you wanna get her to start chasing you a little more if your doing 100% of the initial contacting back off a little and see how she starts reacting to Gauge her interest level, see if she reaches out to you in the morning if you don’t reach out to her and just gauge her text on how long it takes for her to text you and what kinda text she sends. Make sure she’s putting in e…
/r/seduction05/12/19 06:09 AM
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Do not ask her to be exclusive, let her bring it up. Your in a scarcity mindset and are afraid to lose her but you want the role to be reversed. Just enjoy what your doing now and she’ll eventually come to you. Assume she’s sleeping with at least 1 other guy( she may not be but pretend or assume) if you ask her to be exclusive and she’s not 100% ready or isn’t sure between you and the other guy she’ll go with whoever she doesn’t feel like shell be losing her freedom with. She’ll start pulling aw…
/r/seduction05/12/19 03:21 AM
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If she responds to that any types of exercises she likes say “I like planking but only when Im on top of a sexy girl or tell her your a pro masseuse and if she needs a post workout massage you might be able to help😉” unfortunately you already lost her attention so these texts are like Hail Marys at this point wait at least 5 days if she doesn’t respond to your last text then message her something new bit her into responding by saying “heyy I got a serious question to ask you” she’ll respond to t…
/r/seduction05/12/19 02:30 AM
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Tease them and always make it like you might like them but your not sure “maybe she’ll get to see your car (or whatever she asked to see) if she keeps playing her cards right or if you’d decide to go out again” in the very beginning when they know you like them and they have you if they aren’t crazy into you they will lose interest 9/10 times. Be playful tease them and never let them know exactly where you stand or what your thinking. Show them what you think about them and show them you like th…
/r/seduction05/12/19 01:58 AM
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Exactly you can feel when they are really tryna get back to there headphones but like 75% of people are playin on their phone or have headphones on so your basically waiting for a perfect opportunity to approach if you wait for her to be headphone less I say go for it and if she doesn’t wanna talk she’ll let you know. It goes the same if she’s not wearing headphones sometimes they are receptive sometimes they aren’t but avoiding ones who wear headphones is not a good mindset to be going in with.
/r/seduction12/11/19 08:43 PM
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First thing I would suggest is to remember your only 19, you wanna start learning how to be good with women now but it’s normal to not be great with them. I don’t think I got laid till I was 19 maybe 20 and I can’t count how many girls I’ve had at age31. I was terrible then it sounds like you have half the problem most guys have handled which is getting the girls interested in them. If they are interested in you your gonna just have to learn to facilitate their interest. I would recommend going …
/r/seduction12/11/19 03:32 PM
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That’s possible and you can tell right away if they don’t wanna talk so you leave them alone but honestly 90% of the girl I do this with are receptive and enjoy talking with me. That mentality is like assuming every girl is to busy always (oh she’s shopping, or she’s to busy working) they only don’t want to talk to you if they don’t want to talk to you and you won’t know until you try. You gotta know how to feel out the situation and they will be trying to put their headphones back on if they ar…
/r/seduction12/11/19 03:36 AM
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I approach girls at the gym wearing headphones everyday and they usually remove them and want to talk to me, sometimes lol hey are just trying to get back to their headphones and if that’s the case you let them. I have to tap most of them on the shoulder to get their attention cuz it can be very awkward walking on a treadmill trying to talk to someone and they aren’t answering you. She may not hear you but she might also be pretending to not hear you either way it can really throw you off your g…
/r/seduction12/11/19 03:18 AM
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You gotta find out if she ever did anything in the past. If she would kiss past boyfriends or fool around with them but not you and is using religion as her reason to not have sexual be very careful cuz it’s possible she’s using that as a way to avoid getting intimate with you. You don’t wanna get married she has sex on your honeymoon cuz she feels obligated aince you married her and then closes shop. It’s possible it’s just a religious thing but find out if she kissed guys in the past made out …
/r/seduction10/11/19 01:48 PM
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If you look at things from one angle doing anything but letting a girl strip for you and fuck is needy, (it’s not really) my point is that you could look at hitting on girls as needy or being the one to call for the first date as needy but I always viewed it as if you want women you have to be the leader and take initiative. Being needy is being outdone dependent and validating yourself based on her. If you want a girl and sex you are gonna have to be the one to approach and lead, if you ask gir…
/r/seduction09/11/19 09:08 PM
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Ask whatever you want but I would tease her on any answer you can and if she asks you a question give her a funny or silly response every couple answers
/r/seduction08/11/19 12:38 PM
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You could write that but it could lead to a negative place if she’s a recovering alcoholic or something but write whatever feels right just like I said go right into conversation just consider that about asking about her vices could possibly go negative.
/r/seduction08/11/19 12:09 PM
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If she’s at the dance or on the phone talk up your dancing skills like crazy and tell her to bring her A game and that she might have trouble keeping up, shit like that. Then when you actually go dancing and your not very good she’ll tease you about it then just start teasing her back. Is one way to go about it, I don’t know your personality enough to know the best way for you to do it but this is how I would go about it. No matter how much she breaks my balls about dancing I’d just give her cra…
/r/seduction08/11/19 12:01 PM
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It sounds like she liked your profile and is teasing you about it but I can’t tell with only one message.if you do that backpedal thing you will most likely lose her, just stick by your profile and make it like it’s a little role playing game and a joke. Don’t say it directly but obviously you were just being funny.it to hard to tell if she was being serious in her reply cuZ when I reread it I thought she was being playful cuz she liked it.assume the latter and just start flirting with her.
/r/seduction08/11/19 11:52 AM
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Don’t write either of them come up with something new. The do you always take things so literally sounds like your trying to backpedal from your profile cuz you think she dont like it. Just change the subject and go into conversation.
/r/seduction08/11/19 11:49 AM
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Chances are if she wants to bring her roommates she’s tryna put a buffer between you(unless they are all super hiking enthusiasts) but even then if she really wanted to see you and get to know you by herself she wouldn’t be inviting other people. If she invited you for a hike would you bring friends along who would just make things complicated and make it harder to connect? That doesn’t mean you won’t get this girl but her interest level probly isn’t super high so your gonna have to play it supe…
/r/seduction08/11/19 11:05 AM
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If you don’t feel comfortable at all talking with strangers yet start super basic like your saying ask for directions anything just to get yourself interacting with people. If I’m at the gym I ask girl to race me on the treadmill cuz I think it’s funny and I actually do end up racing them then but it’s an endurance run to see who can last longest. Make up a silly story you can run a push pull with right off the beginning. Once your able to make a girl smile and laugh easily you’ll start to feel …
/r/seduction08/11/19 10:56 AM
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If she responds you should just start flirting with her but don’t flip flop and verbally say you and I would be compatible or anything like that or even say you were just playing. Just start talking and flirting with her if you want her and after a day 2 max ask her for her number so you can call for.a date at that point if she says I thought I wasn’t your type? Respond with something like I definitely wasn’t sure about you but your slowly growing on me or something along the lines of that. I’ve…
/r/seduction08/11/19 10:51 AM
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If she’s reaching out to you between dates through text then you don’t wanna ignore her. You just don’t wanna be chasing her for attention through text but I’ve had girlfriends I tried the text only to setup dates style with and it led to them getting pissed off and telling me they didn’t feel like I valued them every single time. Basically you gotta find a balance make sure she’s doing more of the texting than you are but from my personal experience I don’t think being robotic and only texting …
/r/seduction07/11/19 05:12 PM
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Don’t go to the movies is the worst first date idea there is u less your like 18. You can’t talk or build any kind of connection with her. If you get drinks don’t ask them interview style questions. I go on a lot of dates so I always call them before the date especially if I met her online or only talked for a min in person to make sure they can carry a conversation. Then I do an activity for date 2 if I like them. Activity dates are more fun and ultimately do what you want to do on the dates an…
/r/seduction04/11/19 03:26 PM
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I mean you can hang out with a girl everyday if that’s what you want to do and your not the one chasing her to hang everyday. You don’t get to have it both ways you can either do what you’ve been doing and keep her at arms length but she’s not gonna put in more effort than you are for very long. Or you can reciprocate her interest, remain slightly mysterious and every now and then cancel a date but what you were doing told her I don’t value you and no girl is gonna keep chasing you for attention…
/r/seduction04/11/19 02:59 PM
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So you want her to validate you with no reciprocation? Well she’s not gonna start chasing hard again if the relationships cooling down and your denying her dates when she’s asking. Firs have more respect for themselves than a lot of guys have and because they know how easy it is for them to meet someone new if they are feeling like shit cuz your declining dates and not texting her back when she’s reaching out to you she’s gonna move on. You have to find a way to see her more, if she would reach …
/r/seduction04/11/19 02:22 PM
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if a girl is texting you and you’ve slept with her don’t withhold your presence from her or she’ll stop putting herself out there and mentally pull away. You don’t want to be chasing her for attention and want to be the one ending text chains leaving her wanting more.
/r/seduction04/11/19 02:18 PM
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If she was texting you all the time and you weren’t responding to her messages she’s not gonna drive herself crazy for long. I don’t know exactly what you did but pulling back on your half shouldn’t mean ignoring her or she’ll stop chasing as hard. You just wanna be the one to end the text chains and only bereaching out to her 30% of the time. Your tryna get her to chase again like before? Does she feel like she’s just not seeking attention like crazy or does it seem like the dates themselves ar…
/r/seduction04/11/19 02:13 PM
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Ask her, if she’s busy or says no wait one full week send a few texts call her and ask her out for a date where she gets to pick when she’s free. You ask by saying “when are you free to get together?” Make it like it’s not big deal but I would go for drinks and appetizers or something like that so she knows it’s a date without having to label it, also make sure it’s after 530 pm. When you ask her when she’s free she either has to say I’m really busy this week, not interested or pick a date. If s…
/r/seduction04/11/19 12:28 PM
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Normally I would tell a guy to make sure the date isn’t a group date, I don’t know what the dynamic is at the bonfires you go to but in this case it sounds like she’s tryna get you to ask her. Even if she’s there with her friend you kinda have to either bring a friend to distract her friend so you and your girl you want can talk and establish connection or if there is a third wheel you can’t be afraid to make a move in front of her. Just sit down and tell the girl you want to sit next to you and…
/r/seduction04/11/19 12:04 PM
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With texting you wanna try to have a date setup within 3 days on tinder. If you don’t get a girl on a date within about a week and a half your drastically decreasing your chances of seeing her. Text playfully and try and get off text as soon as possible get her out irl and when you do text her make it funny playful texts that you can tease her with cuz if your asking her interview style questions in text your doing what every other guy is doin then when you don’t set the date after a few days sh…
/r/seduction03/11/19 11:28 PM
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Next time don’t worry about the doorman lol would you care about kissing her if she was your girlfriend in front of the doorman? I doubt it I don’t think you blew it though but if you don’t go for it on the second date you might (there’s always exceptions to the rule but I like to play the odds and not take the risk of losing her cuz she thought I was low interest or low confidence.
/r/seduction03/11/19 10:58 PM
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I’m from a big east coast city so I can’t relate tbh I just understand how social dynamics work. You really should I mean you only live once and life is and can be very short so you might as well experience the life you want instead of the life that was given to you.
/r/seduction03/11/19 10:51 PM
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Please Read the book how to be a 3% man by Corey Wayne will help give you a good idea on how to behave around women to keep their attention and gauge their attraction. Just knowing how to treat and talk to a girl to keep her attention which is counterintuitive to most of what you probably think. You’d be surprised just how different what they say and what they actually respond to is. Having the knowledge not many guys know will help build your confidence just knowing that your doing things 90% o…
/r/seduction03/11/19 10:49 PM
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If everyone knows everyone in your town and you never had a lot of girls interested when you were younger they know this and you and are much less likely to want to give you a shot. They probly all want like 10-15 guys all the girls want so them guys probly just move from one to another but all the girls want them cuz all the other girls want them so it’s like easy for them but if your still perceived as the same guy as in highshool and didn’t have options then it’s gonna be much harder to get t…
/r/seduction03/11/19 10:39 PM
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Well it depends, if you pass by her once and catch eachothers gaze but don’t have time to talk and go say hi to her the next time you see her and do you should be fine. If you stare at her everyday and do nothing she knows your looking and in the beginning may have even been hoping you’d come say hi to her but after a few days it becomes creepy and low confidence. It’s very all over the place with what your asking and it depends on the vibe your putting off, if a girls into you then you can get …
/r/seduction03/11/19 10:35 PM
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No problem good luck on the date remember don’t just ask her interview style questions just have fun and tease her you can ask some questions but don’t be to serious the whole time don’t agree with her or ever change your opinion to match hers and tease her on some of her answers to your questions.
/r/seduction03/11/19 10:20 PM
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I like and agree with this but For the average guy I wouldn’t recommend anyone doing this. I like the idea behind it and have had success doing this style as well but if a guys not really good at building sexual tension he’s much more likely to come off as another nice guy afraid to pull the trigger than a super confident guy who teasing her with sexual tension. I should also clarify after you kiss her you should be the one to end the kiss and walk away first don’t try to keep kissing her until …
/r/seduction03/11/19 10:14 PM
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I’ve kissed girls when I saw them for the first time and met them on dating apps and it went well every single time.
/r/seduction03/11/19 10:06 PM
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Yeah there’s no rules to this stuff, I recommend it, even if she were to reject the kiss cuz she’s not ready (which I doubt you’ll deal with) if she likes you you’ll still have come across as you like her and are confident enough to go for what you want. I think that’s the problem most guys make when they are younger they don’t go for it and think you have to wait or something to be respectful but the girls out with you cuz she wants to be kissed.
/r/seduction03/11/19 10:00 PM
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Okay if il you don’t kiss her on the first date and your over 18 she is gonna leave thinking 2 things either he wasn’t into me or isn’t very confident then when you ask her out for a second date she assumes it’s that you weren’t confident enough to pull the trigger. No amount of explaining things will change her mind. Obviously there’s exceptions to the rule but more girls will think this than not and it only a kiss it’s really not that big a deal even if you want a relationship, I feel like why…
/r/seduction03/11/19 09:35 PM
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I honestly think it sounds more like approach anxiety, if you not approaching at all its approach anxiety. Notice I said I talk to and flirt with all the girls at the gym I just don’t try to fuck them for a specific reason but I still approach someone new every time I go.
/r/seduction03/11/19 08:26 PM
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Girls at university is a little different tbh the gym thing is such a small circle and you see the same people constantly so unless you really want a girl I would recommend going to a different gym but at university you can avoid girls you hook up with that it don’t work out with or you don’t wanna continue to see easily.
/r/seduction03/11/19 08:23 PM
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I agree we 48 hours, I often wait 3-4 days depending on how I felt the conversation went and how busy I am. Pay attention to needy behaviors and try and eliminate them from your vocabulary, I can tell your still doing this stuff cuz you said you thanked her for the conversation before you left. This nonverbally comunicates I didn’t expect you to actually talk to me so thank you for gracing me with your presence and time. I don’t think it was all that bad and you’ll probly still hear from her if …
/r/seduction03/11/19 03:04 PM
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The only problem with this is he didn’t explain that 99% of the time if your deep in the friendzone your not gonna get out without moving on dating other girls and it’s possible you end up running into her later on as a new man who’s much more direct. If you’ve been in the friendzone for a long time don’t expecting anything one mysterious phone call phone call to be like a superpower and the girl will call you back and want a date. It’s better than not doing it but don’t count on seeing her agai…
/r/seduction03/11/19 02:39 PM
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Start with practicing a push pull of you have good dating attraction skills and run one of them when you first meet her you’ll get her attention more often than not. I had the same problem I’m still working on t but if I can get them to laugh or tease them withing the first min I’m able to just flow into how I acted with girls I with in the past and it’s pretty easy just remember in night game you gotta approach and get acceptance of the group most of the time. Sometimes you can dodge them and g…
/r/seduction02/11/19 10:42 PM
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Do whatever you want to do lol I would 100% flirt and talk with girls at the gym but just take the shit where you eat thing into consideration. If your looking for more of a relationship you’ll be more okay at the gym than if you just tryna fuck girls and move on and have to keep going back while they all know you and some are bitter. Even then do whatever you wanna do but I would at the very least practice flirting and talking with them. Find the ones walking one the treadmill are much more lik…
/r/seduction02/11/19 05:32 PM
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You should consider going to a different gym for asking girls out so it’s kinda like avoid shitting where you eat but it’s awesome you took action definitely a victory step in the right direction. While I don’t ask girl out at my gym I do practice flirting with them every day. If you don’t have a reputation there and just practice your conversation skills while your on treadmill or doing cardio(a little harder on weights) I’ve only had many 3 girls straight up not wanna talk at all most I end up…
/r/seduction02/11/19 02:33 PM
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I should tell your that’s now I have one of the most beautiful girls in the world as my girlfriend. She could easily be na Instagram model so if you take action things can work for you but you gotta take action for it to work.
/r/seduction02/11/19 01:04 PM
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Just a heads up I think you misread what I was tryna say. I was explaining that all that stuff means nothing if your not taking action and approaching. They aren’t just gonna throw themselves at you cuz you got that stuff. Look into creating for bulking up I don’t know if it’s still considered safe or what lol but when I was 18 I bulked up like crazy on it. It basically fills your muscles with water and you don’t wanna stay on to long term cuz you will eventually deflate a lot if you don’t kinda…
/r/seduction02/11/19 07:35 AM
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If you didn’t have a strong first interaction You could either text her for a day and or Send 3 texts like 8pm when most people are off from work then as long as she’s not working call her talk for a few min make her laugh ask when she’s free to get together? Then talk for 3-5 more min and get off the phone lol Don’t talk for days through text without asking for a date like 2 days of texting max before you ask for a date and I even think that’s to much to be honest but After an hour of report an…
/r/seduction01/11/19 10:48 PM
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If you didn’t have a strong first interaction You could either text her for a day and or Send 3 texts like 8pm when most people are off from work then as long as she’s not working call her talk for a few min make her laugh ask when she’s free to get together? Then talk for 3-5 more min and get off the phone lol Don’t talk for days through text without asking for a date like 2 days of texting max before you ask for a date and I even think that’s to much to be honest but After an hour of report an…
/r/seduction01/11/19 09:09 PM
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If you didn’t have a strong first interaction You could either text her for a day and or Send 3 texts like 8pm when most people are off from work then as long as she’s not working call her talk for a few min make her laugh ask when she’s free to get together? Then talk for 3-5 more min and get off the phone lol Don’t talk for days through text without asking for a date like 2 days of texting max before you ask for a date and I even think that’s to much to be honest but After an hour of report an…
/r/seduction01/11/19 09:07 PM
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You” I know your thinking I’m funny handsome and sexy” her “no I wasn’t” you “ don’t lie I can sense it was def there” at this point she’ll often just agree with you if she’s already into you and it was just a little shit test but if she says “no to wasn’t thinking that” you gotta feel out her tone cuz if she’s saying it like a bitch I’d just stick with my frame and change the subject or I might say “oh you know what? It musta been the girl behind you was thinking that” if she says no again in a…
/r/seduction01/11/19 08:58 PM
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Being to nice is often when your doing things to please someone who doesn’t really value your this happens in friendships and relationships all the time. These people are often very insecure and feel they need to do extra things to make other people like them. Even if you believe your doing this cuz you genuinely want to you then have to ask why do you genuinely want to and if you weren’t doing this person favors wourd they be reaching out to you ever? The answer is no more often than yes. Don’t…
/r/seduction01/11/19 08:48 PM
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Don’t compliment girls in a direct way, it just comes across as a bribe for sex.you can throw it in passing if your doing a direct approach with the attitude of your look drew me in but I’m not sure about you. If a girl says or does things fishing for compliments don’t Give them to her. If she sends a pic she wants a compliment don’t give her a direct compliment, give her like a “eww your look terrible😜😂” or” you look okay in that pic” she’ll say just okay? You say yeah now she knows when you sa…
/r/seduction01/11/19 08:40 PM
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You can’t say she pretended not to notice you when you didn’t say anything to er withering. Basically your the man you got the dick and you have to take the lead on every interaction you want to have with women. They are not just gonna throw themselves at you u less your rich, famous or they think your really hot.
/r/seduction01/11/19 08:29 PM
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I think it will help a lot but you still have to put yourself out there. I was the lead guitar player of a band for years and played venues all over the city, I didn’t get girls from it at all disputes the fact the I was following my passion and had a successful career as well. I’m also very muscular, 6, and good looking but unless your Super successful you still have to be the one to approach the girls and put yourself out there. They won’t just start throwing themselves at you. Hindsight 20/20…
/r/seduction01/11/19 08:26 PM
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Unfortunately when you are like this guy acts if he hangs with her again and doesn’t go for a kiss right off the bat he’s gonna be so far inside his head and not do it again. I kiss before the first date often and the results I get are awesome cuz it helps the gir relax and it doesn’t have to come across like last ditch effort but if he just goes for it right away he has a much better shot than it he doesn’t based on op
/r/seduction01/11/19 02:26 PM
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The next time you see her go for the kiss the second you see her. This will set a new tone for how things are gonna be, if she rejects the kiss you know she friendzoned you and move on but if she accepts it then you just kissed her and your on your way to some form of romantic relationship with her.Dont apologize ever or say sorry even if it sarcastic unless you actually did something seriously wrong to hurt her. Don’t apologize for acting like a pussy makes you more of a pussy lol. It’s okay th…
/r/seduction01/11/19 08:16 AM
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Wait to ask how they know eachother, you have to ask it in every set but you should try waiting till the sets hooked before you do it or your gonna be giving away a lot of interest. I mean you can always try it both ways too do a set or 2 like that and a set or 2 earlier in the interaction, also be aware if you get blown out depending on the layout of the bar every other girl sees you get blown out.
/r/seduction31/10/19 06:16 PM
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Don’t tell her insecurities and vulnerabilities you have unless you overcame them and became a stronger man for them. Don’t say things that will make you less attractive or weak in her eyes to be honest. You can be totally honest if you like but girls don’t actually want a man to show their emotions and be vulnerable it repulsed them when we do it. Instead be more available to receive her emotions on a more emotional level and it’s okay to cry if your parents or dog dies, that’s healthy emotions…
/r/seduction31/10/19 06:11 PM
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Okay maybe try getting the Todd v day game system for pickup advice. The Corey Wayne book will help a lot with your general attitude towards women and will help so when you do approach you know how to act with them . Ultimately your gonna have to approach and put yourself out there. There are a million books on day game. I watched the Todd v system has a lot of really good day game info you mix that and the Corey Wayne book while growing a set of nuts and approaching and you’ll meet women. You h…
/r/seduction30/10/19 10:41 PM
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Same book, it doesn’t have hardly any info on getting her interested or pickup, very little on getting numbers maybe half a chapter but a lot of info on how to handle dating her so you don’t come across as needy.
/r/seduction30/10/19 08:25 PM
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But the book how to be a 3% man by Corey Wayne, it’s all about gauging their interest levels and more about what not to do and how to avoid supplicating behavior. This book helped me out a lot with that issue, I listened to the audiobook a multiple times on my commute to work and at the gym till the stuff sank in and realizing that doing nice things for them is actually what’s turning them off helps a lot, it also talks about not texting and calling so much. It has very little info on pickup and…
/r/seduction30/10/19 04:30 PM
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Your texting. To much, your gotta text a lot in the beginning for the girl to feel comfortable meeting with a stranger off the internet but once you meet you gotta cut the text back drastically.once you sleep with her you gotta cut them back more,u less she’s seeking your attention don’t be trying to text her all day cuz it has the opposite affect of what you want. Stop talking with her hit her up with a text in one full week then if she don’t respond or doesn’t want to set a date wait a month a…
/r/seduction30/10/19 10:26 AM
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If he doesn’t like you and you want him your not gonna really be able to be friends anyway. I tell guys this all the time girls don’t owe you sex but you don’t owe them friendship and often the person who had the crush just tortures themselves pining over the other person all the time and when they see them dating someone else it hurts them every time. I say go for it 100% if he’s flirting with you and you had his hand on his and you said he looked at you like he wanted to kiss you then he most …
/r/seduction30/10/19 03:52 AM
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That’s exactly why Day game is an advantage cuz you get points just for having the balls to approach during the day when not many guys are doing that. Night game is harder cuz they are expecting to be hit on and if you get blown out they all see it plus you can barely hear eachother speak and they are often in groups and it’s so loud it’s very hard to maintain the groups attention.
/r/seduction30/10/19 03:43 AM
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Your probably still showing to much interest. Even though you slept with them already they have to feel like your a challenge for them and that they won you so if your texting them the next day or telling them how great a time you had , this is most likely your problem. It sounds ridiculous to a lot of guys that you still have to act indifferent but you do you show a little more interest but she still can’t know exactly where she stands. I typically wait 3-5 days after a date to reach out unless…
/r/seduction30/10/19 03:39 AM
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The stuff about not being a supplicant wiener and 90% of guys thinking they are supposed to act like the woman’s personal butler cuz they’ve been socially conditioned by tv and movies to think that’s normal?
/r/seduction30/10/19 01:36 AM
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So don’t over text, don’t be to excited to reply to her texts if she’s taking an hour you text right away and she takes another hour to respond don’t keep responding right away match her hour time and then try and cut the time gap again after 3 messages. They match our time often too so you have to be the leader and break the time gap but don’t be always jumping at her texts if she’s taking an hour or 20 min to respond and you respond in 39 seconds. I think the best way to get a girl out is when…
/r/seduction30/10/19 01:33 AM
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Talk to her and ask her out. If you were planning on bringing up matching with her on tinder to her as something to talk about or your way of opening her and that’s the route you really wanna go . If you matched and messaged her a month ago ,delete her on tinder before you approach so she can’t check and see that you messaged her and she didn’t respond. Best option might be right at the beginning or not at all but delete her so she can’t see that you messaged her and she ignored it cuz she will …
/r/seduction30/10/19 01:16 AM
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If your younger what you did can work but if your over 25 while I don’t think you try to get her out once and then walk away forever try wait a week try again then a month then if you remember 3 months but your throwing up hailmarys and shouldn’t expect to see her. Sometimes the first week you ask her out she’s not in the mood or may be dating someone else and doesn’t want to ruin it with the guy she invested time and energy in already. Waiting a full week and then a month doesn’t make you come …
/r/seduction30/10/19 12:46 AM
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I’d do this, if your willing to lose her set boundaries and tell her things have to change or I’m gonna leave. I don’t like this and that in our relationship and when you just walked out cuz you wanted a fling with someone else is like I don’t feel like your in this with me. If she wants to work on things and shapes up then cool but you have her the chance and if she says then go or doesn’t care you were one fitness trainer away from having her do it again cuz she’s just with you until she finds…
/r/MGTOW29/10/19 11:33 PM
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Read my post above and tell your friend to read it cuz most guys do all that shit and can’t understand why she’s getting turned off. It not them or their personality that’s turning her off but it’s their wiener supplicating behavior that makes her bored and actually makes her resent him.
/r/MGTOW29/10/19 11:06 PM
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Most guys that have these issues are supplicant wieners around their wives and don’t understand that acting like that turns her off and makes her act bitchy cold and distant. They want men to act like men but when men grow up seeing tv and movies where the husband is afraid of the wife and does everything she says he lets her walk all over home and bends over backwards for her but she gets turned off. Then he feels like a failure and not good enough cuz he felt like he did everything he could to…
/r/MGTOW29/10/19 11:02 PM
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I think it helps to read the situation and know what you want outa the interaction. If I ask a girl for a phone number and I see her as someone to date and the interactions ending I’ll often call her a liar but I’ll say it in a way that catches her off guard and calls her on her shot but I’m also smiling and she knows I’m being playful. She’ll either give me her number or she’ll say she still had a boyfriend to which I reply “okay I believe you but you and I woulda been fun together” I say somet…
/r/seduction29/10/19 10:39 PM
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I got in chewed out by some girl on here a month ago for this, I forget what it was cuz it was t even directly related to seduction but I said something about so if a guy wasn’t popular and good with women on middle school and hoghscool (when I believe naturals develop a lot of these social skills) he should remain unpopular and and girl free for his entire life unless some girl grants him the gift of her time? She went off on me and wrote the most hateful message I’ve ever read lol I just laugh…
/r/seduction29/10/19 10:28 PM
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If you are trying to date her and fuck her more than once you can show some affection but I would try and keep it within reason. Don’t kiss her forehead or cheek and shit like that if you don’t want a relationship with her or she’ll just feel led on. If it’s a girl you intend on a one. Night stand and nothing else I recommend not showing hardly any affection. I personally hang with a girl about 4 times after I sleep with her and slowly pull away if I don’t want a relationship with her. I’m not t…
/r/seduction29/10/19 10:17 PM
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Just go to the gym do half weights and half cardio. Just pay attention to what your eating try not to eat anything that isn’t a good meal. What I mean is I eat pizza, fried chicken, Stromboli and wings all the time but I don’t eat them as snacks and I don’t eat ice cream or cookies nothing that’s not a legit food and nothing that can’t be a meal. If you go to the gym for an hour or 2 every other day you’ll get in shape in about 3 Months. Lean muscular and while I don’t have abs I’m still way mor…
/r/seduction29/10/19 09:11 PM
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Take her chin and turn her head to you and kiss her. Some girls went for the hug with me after a very fun encounter or date,I did this and they will kiss you if they even want to the slightest bit . I’ve never been rejected for a kiss doing this and often they end up making out with me and were just nervous. This move works especially good if for whatever reason you have to wait for the end of the date cuz they sometimes get super nervous when your standing outside her car or door so go for the …
/r/seduction29/10/19 08:57 PM
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Just a warning once your at the one month point your basically throwing up hailmarys. Don’t expect to see them and move on but I’ve had girls respond after a month, your text game has to be tight cuz they lost likely won’t remember you. For the most part if it’s girl I ou never even got out on a date you shouldn’t expect to see her if she really wanted to see you she would cuz she’s obviously just ignoring your messages. The style works better if it’s a girl you were dating that just started fla…
/r/seduction29/10/19 08:32 PM
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If she doesn’t respond or responds and stops wait 1 full week and try again. I’ve gotten girls with this cuz it gives them time to respond while not coming across as needy. If you text again the next day after they didn’t respond it’s like they got your message and chose not to respond or were genuinely busy which is less likely but either way wait a week and try again. So if a girl responds and stops responding after 4-5 texts your saying something to turn them off or being boring and losing th…
/r/seduction29/10/19 08:20 PM
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I always viewed pickup techniques Nd all how your saying basically just a guideline to get things rolling and once you start getting some positive results from girls you start to build confidence
/r/seduction27/10/19 10:26 PM
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First time just get it done sow you can get it out of your head that it’s a big deal. The younger you are the less the girls expect skill or stamina. Best bet is to find a girl you can fuck a lot and get practice with someone you feel comfortable with cuz you’ve been there before(doesn’t have to be a girlfriend but a fwb/ fuck buddy type situation even) practice using a condom or two and opening it without it being a big deal. Have it ready when she’s back to your place so when it’s time you don…
/r/seduction27/10/19 04:39 PM
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I’m finding night game difficult in the suburbs. I’ll go to 3 bars a night at least I can’t hear anything they are saying and vice versa so my Witt is basically useless when I have to keep dying “what do you say” plus I have slight hearing damage from playing in a band for years so I’m constantly leaning in just to hear them and asking them” say that again” over and over and I’m also finding it hard to get the attention of a 3 set cuz I can barely hear the one girl and I have a loud voice and it…
/r/seduction27/10/19 04:21 PM
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So stop drinking so much if your tryna get laid, not saying be sober and try and take advantage of drunk chick who can’t walk but drink till your just buzzed and loose you’ll be able to perform better and it will dull your senses so you last a little longer if that’s your problem. Almost every girl has a fantasy of being dominated. That doesn’t mean they all wanna be choked out or whips and chains but they like when you pin their arms down and show them your stronger than them and they are yours…
/r/seduction27/10/19 04:00 PM
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Read the book how to be a 3% man by Corey Wayne, this book has almost no pickup info but a ton on gauging interest levels and understanding how to talk to them act around them and communicate while keeping them interested cuz it’s easy to meet the kind of girl your talking about and lose her after 3 months. Girls don’t care about money, they do care about financial stability if your talking relationship wise. They look for independence and financial stability. You shouldn’t even be letting a gir…
/r/seduction27/10/19 12:49 PM
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If she’s alone I give personally give her the Han Solo kinda attitude and say “I know” but I day with a smile and if I say it again or I’ll be like “yeah I think so too” but one of the times I kinda make it like I’m laughing like I don’t take myself to seriously world everytime for me. I often compliment myself when I’m talking with a girl I tell her something like “I know what your thinking” she say “what am I thinking” I say “ your thinking how did I get so lucky to have this funny handsome se…
/r/seduction27/10/19 12:39 PM
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Hppy to hear you actually took the advice and read it cuz most guys wouldn’t. Your gonna end up doing good with this. It may take a year cuz it is a learning process but if your apply your current skills approach and apply the knowledge from that book you’ll be get it. Also I highly recommend reading it or I listened to it 7-10 times he says that for a reason. The shot starts really becoming a part of your life cuz you just have it in your memory and remember what to do.
/r/seduction27/10/19 12:21 PM
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Yeah it helped me a lot when I first read it. It doesn’t have much on pickup but is just a good guideline on how to act around them in general which no pickup book seems to talk about. It really helps to gauge their interest level a lot and learn to read between the lines.
/r/seduction27/10/19 11:52 AM
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You can never trust a girl who cheats on her boyfriend with you cuz she will 100% cheat on you when she meets someone new or gets bored. I would just let it alone and honestly the only way she would break up with her boyfriend is if it’s her decision so if you back off and start contacting her less and then tell her your not interested in the current arrangement and if shes single to hit you up .walk away completely and if she likes you more she may break up with him. Still she’s 100% gonna chea…
/r/seduction26/10/19 05:13 PM
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If she comes to the party I would kiss her right when you see her, it’s very ballsy and risky but take her chin and lead her to your lips. Always do this when they go for the hug . Sometimes they want to kiss on the first date but our nervous and go for the hug but when you take their chin (gently) and lead them to your lips they end up making out with you in the parking lot so they clearly wanted to but we’re nervous or maybe not sure how into them you were. If she doesn’t show up to the party …
/r/seduction26/10/19 03:26 AM
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Yeah just go for it and always assume she’s talking to 3 other guys when you meet her. This may not be the case but your not exclusive and if she’s not just go for it cuz other guys won’t hesitate if your dating her and not exclusive yet, (many won’t even care if you are exclusive) Just ask her out and keep in mind if she’s sleeping with you both she’ll always lean more to the one who’s acting less needy and weak.
/r/seduction26/10/19 02:02 AM
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If she keeps coming up to you then you can probly hang out with her most of the night like you don’t wanna hide from her but if your always the one who has to I initiate the conversation and are following her around is a turnoff. Someone else said hot on her and walk away is probly the best answer and also talk to other girls and make sure your being show respect with other friends, that people are listening to you when you speak and that you seem to be generally having fun without her. Then whe…
/r/seduction26/10/19 01:56 AM
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If she asks if it’s a date say something like “you can call it whatever you want,let’s just have fun” something like that it doesn’t make it not a date but also leaves it up for interpretation from her also go for the kiss when your hanging with her. If your nervous asking her out and keep waiting your gonna do the same thing with going for a kiss but waiting for the kiss is worse it will almost Guarantee friendzone. For all she knows your just busy and that’s why you haven’t asked her out but w…
/r/seduction26/10/19 01:53 AM
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I’m not saying it will fix you but it will help you know how to act and treat them and gauging their interest level. You definitely don’t believe any of you interactions are gonna go good and are basically approaching just to approach which is def better than not approaching but your probly putting off a nervous unconfident vibe. This books will help especially for when you meet a girl you like so you don’t get dumped and go back to square one. Most guys try to please the girl to make her happy …
/r/seduction24/10/19 11:45 PM
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So read the whole book 7-10 times like he says it makes a difference, even if you wait till 39 to start pickup again it really does have a lot of good info on how your general attitude should be and how to present yourself to them. There’s also not much on pickup so you won’t be filling your head with to much of the same info. I find it’s best to pick one guy for dating advice one guy for day game and one guy for night game cuz a lot the guys have conflicting ideas and it’s like okay which is it…
/r/seduction24/10/19 11:29 PM
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You can def text her won’t hurt wait like 2-3 days and text her see what she says . Then if she says no or maybe (which means no 95% of the time) Wait one full week try again then move on if she’s still not down to see you.
/r/seduction24/10/19 11:26 PM
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You can’t say that stuff to a girl, when they know exactly where they stand with you and how much you like them if they aren’t invested in you sexually and time they will lose interest instantly and go for the guy who they aren’t sure how he feels. That’s why they all chase bad boy types cuz they don’t know how he feels about them cuz he doesn’t feel much about them but he does show interest physically this makes him a challenge and she can’t resist it. You were def coming on to strong I don’t k…
/r/seduction24/10/19 11:19 PM
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Okay your showing waaaaaaay to much interest.
/r/seduction24/10/19 11:16 PM
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With online dating you have to be a little aggressive right from the beginning. Unless you math and meet that day you already built a bunch of comfort with her and if your a little cocky and confident behind a screen and show up and it’s not a total continuation of the text interaction she will often not want a second date. This isn’t 100% though you really never know but in my experience they already like you enough to meet a stranger off the internet And the faster I escalate things and kiss h…
/r/seduction24/10/19 11:15 PM
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Did you kiss her?
/r/seduction24/10/19 11:07 PM
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Even if she’s your girlfriend don’t quit your job to make her happy that’s a typical nice guy mistake that while she may not like that you work there she knew you work there when you first started hanging out and quoting your job to make her happy will make her happy for about a day but she loses respect for you if she can make you do things for her.
/r/seduction24/10/19 11:02 PM
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Did you ever kiss her? It sounds like she wasn’t so much on the smoking she was just using that as an excuse to hang out with you and if you weren’t pulling the trigger she lost interest and they get mad and bitchy at you when your not stepping up and picking up their signs lol
/r/seduction24/10/19 10:59 PM
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Just so you know stuff don’t change when your 30 , I wish I woulda got into when I was younger tbh but I would def read that book or the audio version on audible it will help a lot.
/r/seduction24/10/19 10:27 PM
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Okay so your most likely being very incongruent and you need to find a hybrid between the game pua persona and your simplest self. Also learn a hobby girls thinks attractive, learn to play the guitar or something it’s not that hard and is a great way to get her to your place. Playing guitar won’t get you laid or a girlfriend only help. I would highly highly recommend that book and maybe try online dating while still making. Irl approaches. You’ll get some good routines and figures how to be your…
/r/seduction24/10/19 10:22 PM
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I don’t know what that means about your strengths not aligning with what’s considered attractive. I would buy a book how to be a 3% man and read it 7-10 times like he says, it’s not a pickup book it’s a dating book on how to handle dating women and gauging their interest level will help with the general attitude on how to act around them will help. I think a lot of people read to much pickup techniques and it’s like they are coming across as inauthentic and in their head during the interaction. …
/r/seduction24/10/19 10:13 PM
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If you weren’t nervous at all have no problem sexualizing things in shape and made hundteds of approaches you would have got one or two of them to bite. Try lowering your standards a touch get laid a few times and then when you’ve slept with some 6’s graduate to 7 and so on. It sounds like you don’t believe your gonna get these Orlando your approaching them just to approach them but that won’t work. You have to believe you can get them, that’s basically what confidence is, the guy believes he ca…
/r/seduction24/10/19 09:35 PM
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Your probly putting off that vibe even if you think your not, they can sense it instantly and if you had no problem sexualizing you would’ve gotten laid at least once.
/r/seduction24/10/19 09:31 PM
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You probly think your not nervous but your probly putting off that vibe.
/r/seduction24/10/19 09:30 PM
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Okay you are fed still coming off as nervous then. That’s 90% of the failures I have is when I’m putting off a nervous vibe not sexualizing things at all and drawing blanks on what to say cuz I’m nervous
/r/seduction24/10/19 09:28 PM
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Don’t have to be ripped or jacked but not fat or obese?
/r/seduction24/10/19 09:24 PM
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Are you in shape?
/r/seduction24/10/19 09:23 PM
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How many have you slept with or dated since you started?
/r/seduction24/10/19 09:23 PM
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I don’t know what you thinks gonna happen when you hit 30 lol it’s gonna be the same thing, every year your not in the game makes it harder cuz the girls have no choice they can’t opt out they get approached , so alls you’ll be doing is setting yourself back further socially. Also what these books and all don’t tell you is it’s total numbers game even the guys who tech the stuff have a fairly high failure rate but if you approach 100 and get 1 lay or 1 girlfriend it’s 1 more than you would have …
/r/seduction24/10/19 09:22 PM
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You should take a boot camp so someone who’s been teaching this stuff for a while can critique you
/r/seduction24/10/19 09:14 PM
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Okay what do you apply when you approach?
/r/seduction24/10/19 09:13 PM
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I didn’t get remotely good with girls till I was 26 ish I’m still not a pickup master or anything but I’ve had my fair share of girls, you’ll never not want them so instead of torturing yourself you might as well just work on it.
/r/seduction24/10/19 09:12 PM
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How old are you and how long have you been trying?
/r/seduction24/10/19 09:11 PM
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If you apply the stuff in game you’ll get positive enough results. Just running a simple push pull gets a girl to smile and laugh every single time. That little bit helps build it. It’s like baby steps but you gotta start somewhere once you can make a girl smile you’ll wanna go further and you’ll feel confident you can make her laugh then you make the interactions longer, then you just keep building until your confident you can be with her.
/r/seduction24/10/19 09:08 PM
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Yeah I mean it will come if you work on it, I recommend focusing on irl interactions and approach but it wouldn’t hurt to do some dating apps as well cuz if you can get them interested in your conversation via text then you can pretty much start bringing them stories and rhythm into irl interactions, I came up with most of my routines , style and rhythm with online dating. This wasn’t intentional and hindsight 20/20 I should have been approaching while I was doin this but I found it was like I a…
/r/seduction24/10/19 09:04 PM
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Okay I would highly Recommend buying the book how to be a 3% man by Corey Wayne it has a ton of good info on not being needy, weak and gauging her interest level. It will help out drastically cuz it sounds like you may have been coming on a little needier than you think you were (even though she was talking about boyfriend girlfriend first) skipping class to see her asking to spend the night for no real reason on a week night. If a girl has options it doesn’t take many mistakes to scare her off.…
/r/seduction24/10/19 04:38 PM
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The outer game feeds the inner game and vice verse but you kinda gotta start with the outer game. You can read all the books on game and inner game you want but until you experience positive results for yourself you won’t fully understand or live it.
/r/seduction24/10/19 04:27 PM
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Your inner game heals as you start to see positive results. Every guy that started out in game had bad inner game some worse than others but that’s kinda how it works the techniques and all that shot are for the most part to get positive feedback from girls when you have know idea how to talk to them. Once you start getting positive results your inner game starts to heal and get stronger.
/r/seduction24/10/19 04:26 PM
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So there’s a million things you can do your friends move works absolutely if you can confidently ask her to come over your place. If you go on a date and aren’t fun flirting and sexually escalating a bit and then ask her in an unconfident way it will be hard to get her over. I do agree when you get her back to your place should be between date 1-3 (sometimes it takes more than one date) but when you get her to your place dont let her sit on the other end of the couch sit first and tell her to “c…
/r/seduction24/10/19 04:23 PM
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If the guys just sitting there doing nothing, alls it takes is for one girl to say he’s hot and they all say he’s hot. They all want what every other girl wants. He probly puts off a vibe your unaware of but because he knows girls want him and probly always have he knows they want him and puts off this vibe (this is confidence) he just knows he has them even before he opens his mouth cuz it’s just always been that way for him so why would these girls be any different?) If he makes eye contact wi…
/r/seduction24/10/19 04:09 PM
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Just go into conversation, the first message I found means nothing as she either finds you attractive enough physically or she doesn’t. So just write a message that isn’t “hey” and start talking I suggest asking a question and teasing her for her answer if she asks you the same question give her a ridiculous answer and try and get her to believe it is fun. She’s already attracted to you if she’s answering you on tinder so you just have to not be boring.shes getting messaged by a new guy every ho…
/r/seduction24/10/19 03:57 PM
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Yeah the person you date in high school will generally not be the person you spend your life with. It sometimes is but don’t bank on it, there’s much more drama and backstabbing and that kind of crap than actual healthy relationships
/r/seduction24/10/19 03:45 PM
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I won’t agree to hang with her friends until after I’ve already slept with a girl multiple times. You can’t establish a connection when your with other people.
/r/seduction24/10/19 03:36 PM
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Yes that’s her making it so you won’t try to kiss her again. It’s putting a buffer between the 2 of you.
/r/seduction24/10/19 03:35 PM
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That’s rare that someone ever agrees with a counter post lol I do agree with you that it shouldn’t be the only focus though cus that’s what a lot of guys do in their 20s even and it comes across as very needy and scared the girls they meet off when they could be having otherwise healthy relationships .
/r/seduction24/10/19 03:34 PM
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The game thing is more about being good and comfortable talking with girls to give yourself the best chance of actually sparking attraction with a girl. When I was younger I’ve been around many single girls looking for a guy and even though I was muscular, goodlooking had a high paying career while everybody else was broke and in college,had a lot of friends and played in a band the girls I got were far and few between because I I didnt know how to interact with them in a way that sparked attrac…
/r/seduction24/10/19 03:32 PM
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Okay at 18 she should be ready to be kissed by 3 dates. Next time you see her you don’t have to wait till the end of the date when you hug her give her a real hug (not an ass out friend hug) grab her and give her a bear hug as if she was your girlfriend then tak a step back while keeping by your hands on her waist look into her eyes and kiss her, if she turns take her chin gently with your hand and turn her face to you if she denies this than she’s not really into you and I would move on. Also y…
/r/seduction24/10/19 03:10 PM
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Don’t listen to this lol I agree with her that you shouldn’t put all your focus on a girl and should just enjoy your life but girls don’t realize that they have no choice in being in the game and dating guys approach them but as a guy you have to approach them and go for it so every year you aren’t in the game and they are your putting yourself at a social disadvantage. Yous are all on the same level now but by the time highschoolw over the girls will all have been interacting with guys for 3-4 …
/r/seduction24/10/19 02:55 PM
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It can be sexual lol I didn’t know that more than half the girls in my high school did sexual things by 17. Even if your only able to make out with the girl that’s cool. Your young so a lot of girls aren’t gonna have sexual yet but if your making out with them and putting off a sexual vibe if you have a girlfriend she’ll want to sleep with you when she’s ready and you’ll be getting experience interacting with a girl on a romantic level (even if that means just making out with different girls) th…
/r/seduction24/10/19 02:45 PM
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Playing it cool and trying to act cool are differently things. Sure your showing interest whenever you call her for a date the key is to keep her wondering how much interest. You can be interested without knowing if you actually like her or not. It’s that indifference and uncertainty that often raises her attraction level and keeps her interested in you.
/r/seduction24/10/19 02:21 PM
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Are you going for the kiss? She’s not gonna kiss you. You have to kiss her. Is she rejecting your kiss and still seeing you or are you waiting for her to kiss you or chickening out cuz she’s not gonna kiss you.
/r/seduction24/10/19 02:17 PM
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I’d go for it, not matching with her on tinder doesn’t mean anything. That’s the problem with tinder is you can’t portray your personality at all Nd it’s 100% your looks.
/r/seduction24/10/19 01:41 AM
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Def gotta shake that vocabulary will help a lot man. Im not tryna come across like I’m mocking you for it or anything cuz your young and people use all different shit when they are younger (I’m 30 so not that old that I don’t use slang) but it really doesn’t sound intelligent or authentic. It sounds like something the kids who were acting like they were born and live in the hood would say to fit in with eachother and act tough.
/r/seduction24/10/19 01:08 AM
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Do what this guy said lol I would try and be a regular at 1 place that has maybe a hot wait staff and some hot girls usually frequent. Then go to new places once a week and there once a week at the least.
/r/seduction24/10/19 12:13 AM
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Who says they want relationships? That’s in your head, most college goes just want fun. You can date girls and not have a relationship. You might have 2 or 3 girlfriends at a time date until they start bringing up boyfriend girlfriend if your not feeling it with them then just break it off with them a week later. College is when most girls don’t want a boyfriend and just want sex lol. Once they get outa college is when they start looking to settle down and find a man and at 18-35 they start want…
/r/seduction23/10/19 11:59 PM
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Your the one asking for advice on a forum if you don’t like the answer that’s not my fault. Chemistry is important but if she has chemistry with more than one guy she will always choose the guy she has to work for and isn’t sure where she stands with.
/r/seduction22/10/19 05:40 PM
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So your putting to much investment into this one girl. They just wanna have fun and eventually after fucking her for 2-3 months they usually want to make you their boyfriend if they really like you. Girls don’t think logically so it doesn’t matter that you grew up together. They don’t care about why you have In common or how much you made them laugh they have to feel excited and turned on towards you the things in common and laughing are a bonus and add to it all for them. Humor is just a way to…
/r/seduction22/10/19 03:22 PM
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So after re reading your post I don’t think I misinterpreted anything. She hit you up , yous talked a bit , you asked her if she was free on the weekend, then she said no without saying no, you hit her hip Saturday and she didn’t reply. I did skim through the end and musta overlooked that she hit you up in that case meet her fuck her and don’t think to much about it. If she starts hinting she wants a boyfriend or really likes you then she’s probly not sleeping with anyone else anyway and is in t…
/r/seduction22/10/19 01:01 PM
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With some of these things I’m not saying you were intending on having something between the lines but there is always subtext and between the lines to every text message that isn’t “lol” or hey
/r/seduction22/10/19 12:55 PM
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Your tryna lock her into sleeping exclusively with you (non verbally) this is how she’s reading it. I don’t know if she’s responding positively or negatively to this but just fuck her with a condom on and don’t eat her pussy then. I mean she’s had sex with many other guys before you even if she was sleeping with only you.
/r/seduction22/10/19 12:40 PM
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Make plans
/r/seduction22/10/19 12:36 PM
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Okay so the when she said it feels like an errand and studying kinda weekend she was saying no. Next time take the date away just say okay well if you wanna do something next week when your free reach out and we’ll do something fun, Then you wait again lol your very low interest with her at this point. You gotta make it to her like if she reaches out to you it should only be if she wants a date but also don’t say it that direct it makes it like it a big deal, word it just how I worded it above. …
/r/seduction22/10/19 12:11 PM
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Yeah
/r/seduction22/10/19 04:27 AM
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You can pay for a coffee I wouldn’t pay for every coffee though. I wouldn’t make it like coffee for coffee but like you get a coffee date and I make it a point to tell them when I pay I say listen “I got this one if we decide to go out again you can get the next one” I often say this to them before we even go on the date and use it as a gauge on their interest cuz if most girls don’t want to see you again they will insist on splitting the check cuz they feel bad letting you pay knowing they aren…
/r/seduction22/10/19 04:26 AM
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Okay typically most girls won’t sleep with you till the 2nd or 3rd date. I’ve had many 1 st date lays but most of the girls I’ve slept with require 2-3 dates especially if your not drinking at all and the 1st dates on a weekday. So don’t go to the movies with he yet, it’s way to soon for a movie date if I did a movie date the absolute earliest would be 3rd date and I already slept with her. I would also only go to a movie date if it’s a movie I really wanna see as well. Guys make the mistake of …
/r/seduction22/10/19 04:08 AM
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I wouldn’t pay for a first date anyway tbh I do it like we are splitting the first date and if we decide to see eachother again I’ll get one and you get the next. If you pay for rent everything it’s like your trying to impress her. Don’t penny pinch is a turnoff for women but if your insisting on paying for every date cuz you want her to like you she’ll pick up on that and end up with some guy who won’t pay for anything lol It’s backwards to what you probably think your supposed to do but treati…
/r/seduction22/10/19 04:01 AM
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She asked you to go to the movies your saying? How many dates have you had? Have you slept with her yet? Kissed her?
/r/seduction22/10/19 03:55 AM
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Unless the movie date is her watching a movie at your place then don’t do a movie date until you’ve already slept with her. You can’t build a connection or any comfort with her, you really can’t seduce her in the theatre either. Instead go out take her to 2 different places on the second or 3rd date then invite her to watch a movie at your place (preferably make the date a fri or sat night so she doesn’t have to get up early the next day for work). Don’t let her sit wherever she wants or you’ll …
/r/seduction22/10/19 03:48 AM
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Honestly depends on your financial situation. Sure if you have the income it’s a little better than free tinder but it’s not really worth it if your right on money. Go get a gym membership and some nice clothes and a book or two on game instead.
/r/seduction20/10/19 09:41 PM
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Whatever’s free, rinder bumble, Plenty if fiah hnge It doesn’t really matter to be honest
/r/seduction20/10/19 09:16 PM
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I’m not saying it’s the best or right method but it worked for me (unintentionally) and i notice I always seem to have a witty response for everything she says. I also have a few canned routines I came up with from talking to so many girls online dating when I was younger. I figured I’d share it with you cuz in reality it won’t hurt to talk to more girls while your at home watching tv, even if they aren’t attractive, just talk to as many as you can, try taking them through the 3 steps (when you …
/r/seduction20/10/19 07:35 PM
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Try doing online dating not for any reason other than practicing witty shot to say. I came up with a ton of good routines(unintentionally) when I was younger and did a lot of online dating. Practice coming up with funny witty shit then start bringing it into the field. I wouldn’t rely on online dating but you may get laid a few times with it and it will help you figure out things to say. It’s much easier to come up with shit to say that’s funny and witty behind a screen than to do it in real lif…
/r/seduction20/10/19 07:18 PM
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Honestly I’m working on this myself to so I’m not gonna pretend to have all the answers but I’ve had more gfs then I can count and it’s up to you to be good conversationalist. They are only giving me hat you give, you can’t expect them to want to answer them q and a style questions unless they think your hot them questions are boring as hell for them and do nothing to build attraction so unless she’s just physically attracted to you your gonna deal with a lot of rejection from this style approac…
/r/seduction19/10/19 03:38 PM
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I’m glad someone else chimed in on this cuz if you could see that look would you continue texting her? This goes for anybody who’s reading this lining over some “friend” while she’s dating other guys guys apparently this girls a lesbian so she probably enjoys having a guy she can walk all over without having to give him anything at all. I would imagine a lot of nice guy types wouldn’t do this stuff for her cuz they don’t feel like it’s worth it seeing as they feel there is zero chance with her c…
/r/seduction18/10/19 10:54 AM
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Yeah I would get outa that ASAP it’s clear your secretly in love with her so just end it. Many women’s sexuality is somewhat fluid she may be bisexual and just told you the lesbian side to try and ice you out totally so you didn’t think there was any hope. Please do yourself a favor move on and I would recommend reading the book how to be a 3% man by Corey Wayne it will help you a lot with this whole situation and with dating the next girl you meet cuz it sounds like you’ve been brainwashed by t…
/r/seduction18/10/19 10:40 AM
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Agreed
/r/seduction18/10/19 10:27 AM
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Yes stop! Even if she shows interest I mean you can be friendly with this girl but you value her way more than she values you, so your not really friends even your only friends when she needs you or wants attention. Most guys do what your doing with a girl who likes guys, your girl is even further outa reach than theirs are. Imagine if she started fucking a new guy and told you she’s actually bi? I bet that would make you feel like shit. Move on you don’t owe her anything, find a girl to date ge…
/r/seduction18/10/19 10:21 AM
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Have you ever seen a girl out with her friends and get annoyed by text messages she’s getting? It sounds like your being that dude to her. She doesn’t like guys and only want you around when she wants something from you, then when she gets it and doesn’t need you anymore your chasing her for her attention Nd validation please end this and get some respect for yourself. Do not say the shut your writing in this forum to another girl or guy friend it makes you sounds like the walking talking defini…
/r/seduction18/10/19 09:29 AM
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I really hope you aren’t saying this stuff to other girls your friends with or have crushes on or your guy friends cuz life is not a rom com these girls will all lose respect for you.
/r/seduction18/10/19 09:19 AM
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Dude What are you buying her gifts for? Your getting validation from a girl who has no interest in you and buying her gifts.have you ever had an actual girlfriend before? Cuz your making a huge mistake staying in this thing you got going on. She doesn’t sound like she values the friendship as much as you do and your treating this friendship like a relationship the way your acting.
/r/seduction18/10/19 09:13 AM
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This was tough to read man, the stuff you see in tv and movies is all bullshit, the girl never realizes how good a guy you are and that her best friends the guy she should be with after all. You can’t be friends with girls you want to be romantic with. If you want her romantically (sex,dating,relationship) But she doesn’t want you then you can’t be friends with her. It will just be harder to move on with your life and watching her fuck other guys or girls and not you is gonna hurt everytime. Jus…
/r/seduction18/10/19 01:54 AM
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It was the first night that you blew it, she was at your apartment and ready for you but when you didn’t pull the trigger she snapped outa the emotional state she was in and didn’t value you as much as her current boyfriend. That’s why she acted like that was cuz she was pissed by her actions or almost fucking you and was turned off by your inaction and then made it like it was your fault she even almost cheated.
/r/seduction18/10/19 01:44 AM
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Don’t get stuck following her on Instagram is lame and what a million other guys are doing, be different. Especially it really seems like she’s into you based on how you say shes always sitting next to you and making eye contact. Be direct decisive and go for it, the only real failure is doing nothing
/r/seduction18/10/19 01:38 AM
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Pretend your a grown ass man direct message me .org something funny leaving your phone number and say text me, if she texts you she’s very high interests, send a few texts back and forth then tell her you’ll call her later. Call her around 8 or 9 (whenever your both more likely to be free) then talk on the phone for 10-12 min be funny and a little playful on the phone ask her for a date on the phone so you get her irl That’s probably the best way to get her if you have to wait a while to see her…
/r/seduction18/10/19 01:36 AM
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Write something like “okay that’s cool” wait one week try again then let it go by saying “okay that’s cool if you wanna hangout reach out and maybe we can do something fun” I would write something like that when and now the balls in her court she knows you want her obviously just from you calling for the date. Sometimes they reach out after a week or 2, most of them don’t but if your run into them a few months later and have a better presence and a little more game you can definitely get her att…
/r/seduction18/10/19 01:29 AM
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Don’t be eager be flirtatious though, guys are pretty dumb. When I was younger I was oblivious to girls liking me. So nobody is to busy to hang with someone they like and want to see but if he felt he was in or entering the friendzone I get why he backed off. It seems like he’s a little shy and maybe a little nervous so give him obvious signs that you like him. Flirt , touch his arms with a little squeeze when you say goodbye just be obvious I would only ask him 1 more time after that it’s up to…
/r/seduction17/10/19 10:57 PM
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When a girl says maybe or is busy,trying to set day dates but wants to text with me and wants my attention it’s typically a one way ticket to the friendzone. Even if that wasn’t your intention that’s how so many girls handle guys when they view them as “just friends” so that’s how I woulda read it.
/r/seduction17/10/19 10:46 PM
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I’m not saying to sleep with him right away to get him but if a girl was asking me for day dates and stuff and wasn’t super flirty plus you were busy in the past, I would have kinda moved on in my mind.
/r/seduction17/10/19 10:44 PM
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Did you sleep with him or no and how many dates did yous go on?
/r/seduction17/10/19 10:42 PM
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Also if your over texting don’t just stop texting wean her off your texting and slowly get to the point where she’s texting you more
/r/seduction17/10/19 02:51 PM
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I would everything g I applied works, the key is to not do it like a robot but inject the principles into your own personality.
/r/seduction17/10/19 02:50 PM
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For your position I would watch his YouTube channel. Just type in Corey Wayne He doesn’t have much info on getting the girl but listening to him read letters of other men you start seeing every guy is all doing the same shot and at some point getting the same flakey behaviors. I can listen to him answer their emails about the relationship problem they are having and know what their problem is cuz we all grew up seeing the wring shit on tv and movies. While you may not be standing outside her win…
/r/seduction17/10/19 01:56 PM
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If she’s the ones setting up all the dates and she’s te one reaching out I don’t see what issue is here then? Wait at least 3-5 days text her (is call) send a few funny texts and ask when she free to get together for coffee.if she flakes again you can try one last time but you wait a full week then go to a month and a half with no contact between, then if you still remember go 3 months. The idea is if she doesn’t wanna men or keep dates you don’t keep asking more than 2,3 times max (I normally s…
/r/seduction17/10/19 01:45 PM
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Okay good as I was writing that I’m like I hope this guy doesn’t think I’m coming across like a dick and actually wants to read this book. A lot of friends of mine that could really use it won’t read it cuz of their ego, they have all the answers. Some of it you’ll read and think I shouldn’t do that, I guess use your best judgment but if things don’t work out or she starts acting flakey or distant I would try adapting some of what the book says, reason being chasing a girl when she start acting …
/r/seduction17/10/19 01:34 PM
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No if she’s reaching out you should be replying it shows high interest if you miss one cuz you miss one that’s fine but you don’t wanna play games they can tell. You wanna get her chasing you, if you stop responding to her when she reaches out she’ll stop reaching out. Just make the texts fun and playful and make sure your not the one always seeking her attention through text and you should be fine
/r/seduction17/10/19 01:25 PM
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I agree here you already asked once and no reply. Wait a full week no texts and I personally would call her but if you text start with something to get her attention something she’ll answer then after 3-5 flirting style texts ask her when she’s to meet for coffee?” It sound alike you may have been over texting to be honest. It’s hard to know for sure but unless she’s always the one reaching out to text you when your dating a girl you should only be sending texts if you really have something to s…
/r/seduction17/10/19 06:38 AM
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