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Are suicidal thoughts normal during anger phase?

OverdoseOfRedPill

May 25, 2015
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Title Are suicidal thoughts normal during anger phase?
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OverdoseOfRedPill

Upvotes 1
Comments 33
Date May 25, 2015 7:14 AM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/askTRP
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/376g9x/are_suicidal_thoughts_normal_during_anger_phase/
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Comments

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link

Thinking about death in general and suidide in particular in an unusual amount always is a sign of depression.

Don't listen to these guys here telling you that it's OK. You want to counter them as early as possible. Go and see your family doctor and tell him about it. He will tell you which steps to take next.

[–]OverdoseOfRedPill[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link

My suicidal thoughts are not coming from depression but from a sense that there is nothing more left that I want to understand in this world. It's not for revenge or to get rid of some pain, just that there is nothing more I want to gain anymore.

[–]Endorsed Contributorbalalasaurus1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't mean to sound harsh but I think your mistake is thinking that the world exists to give you something.

You're a man

The dominant life form on this planet. Your role is to extract value from your environment, not have it given to you.

I'm in no way an expert but I think you need a change of perspective. I think your feelings right now stem from a direct conflict between your BP conditioning and your newly found RP knowledge.

Stop thinking that the world owes you something. You owe yourself. You deserve better and by that token you should have better. Don't give up because you'll be doing yourself a disservice, no matter how you feel right now.

[–]OverdoseOfRedPill[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're not harsh, you're on the point.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Doesn't matter what you believe they come from. Clinical depression is much more than just sitting behind closed curtains, sobbing into your pillow. I speak from experience.

Go see a professional.

[–]AlphaManliness0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I don't think you have learned how to become a Natural Alpha yet. A natural alpha exudes Alpha all the time. When he is present, women race themselves to him and throw open their legs and vaginas at him while flying at him. This is what is keeping me from pulling the plug on myself. I consider myself already 90% Alpha but the rest of the 10% is the hardest. At 100% I should be ready to die happy, nah fuck that .. At even 10% Alpha you shouldn't have depression or anything beta brains. If you got depression it's a result of you letting go of yourself - The only solutions to this is lifting weights and making your muscles take care of your mood. When you lift weights (exercise in general), some things are produced in your brain that causes the same effect as good food, good sex or good drugs cause. It's called FOSB. Not only that, muscles uplift your mood by increasing the glycogen stores in your body, causing you to be less fatigued overtime and hence less droopy and depressed. If you were a true Alpha like me, you wouldn't stop until you have every last piece of cute ass on this planet you could have because you will have a raging boner that will be hard to satisfy. But you are talking like a castrated male who has no desire in sexual things. Sex is the desire for/by which God created man. Without sex there wouldn't be a cosmos.

[–]Endorsed Contributortepper21 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't think you have learned how to become a Natural Alpha yet

A natural alpha exudes Alpha all the time

I consider myself already 90% Alpha but the rest of the 10% is the hardest.

If you were a true Alpha like me

Next time you feel like posting... don't.

School's out for summer, apparently.

[–]AlphaManliness0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I am not 14 and Is this is not Alpha ?

[–]OverdoseOfRedPill[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Its sufficient for me to know the difference between alpha and not. To become an alpha means something in the future, but the past is still beta. Being emasculated in childhood and staying that way all my adult life will never go away. I've discovered the answer to all my past pain, life doesn't seem to have any other major mystery I intend to solve. I'm not depressed, actually quite content. It doesn't matter if I go on or not.

[–]Endorsed Contributortepper2-3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

You've been on TRP for a month. That's not nearly enough time to understand much of anything, let alone know what there is to understand.

You want overnight success? You won't get it. It takes time, effort, determination, and a strong resolve. If you can't deal with it, then you were never really unplugged to begin with.

That being said, depression is part of the five stages of grief.

As a side note, I'm getting really fucking tired of your shit posts. Fundamental misunderstanding of RP, bad advice, and doing stupid shit with women (slapping her ass in dance class? WTF?) and not understanding that you're still the problem. We're on a serious anger phase upswing here lately and it's getting annoying.

You and your kind (newly unplugged) are best off digesting every bit of RP literature possible, repeatedly, until you start to understand it. Every single one of your posts paints the picture of a guy who found TRP, read a bunch of the literature in an afternoon, starts treating women like shit "because alpha", and expects pussy on tap. It doesn't work that way.

If you're at this stage of your awakening and "there is nothing more I want to gain anymore," then log out and don't come back. You're a weak excuse for a man and we can't help you if you can't help yourself.

[–]OverdoseOfRedPill[S] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

You're so sure of what you're saying that you're nearly dead yourself. You're not in a position to judge anyone. Go back to your fucking hole, cunt.

[–]Endorsed Contributortepper2-3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

You're so sure of what you're saying

I'm not surprised that you don't recognize confidence.

Man up or get the fuck out. Nobody here is going to hold your hand. You have the power to make your life better, and you seem perfectly content to fish for pity and complain about it.

What a waste.

[–]OverdoseOfRedPill[S] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

I'm not surprised that you don't recognize confidence

All fools are confident of their confidence. You are no different.

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[–]herpes_delivery_man 5 points5 points5 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

jesus christ dude. you need to take a chill pill.

[–]Endorsed Contributortepper2-3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Same goes for you.

Edit: the man up or get the fuck out and stepping in front of a bus, not the chill pill.

[–]herpes_delivery_man5 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

nah im good bruh

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[–]OverdoseOfRedPill[S] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Funny, it also got me endorsed by the mods in /r/TheRedPill. Those must be the fools you're referring to.

This persona is very real, I assure you.

Let's get one thing straight: I don't care about you.

You're all weak and disposable wastes of life.

Alright, we get it, you're a badass, you proved your point. Now, go back to your normal programming and make some posts that get upvoted and bask in your endorsements. Good luck.

[–]tepper2-1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

They all come around eventually.

A reality that you're not recognizing in my snark is that yes, you are disposable. Most men are. The only way to not be disposable is to provide value. That doesn't include complaining or getting depressed over it.

You may not like my delivery, but the message is sound.

[–]TRPdating2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

You may not like my delivery, but the message is sound.

If you're so concerned about the message getting across, stop lacing it with the vitriolic bull shit. It doesn't help him, it doesn't help the karma you clearly care so much about, and it doesn't help the community people are trying to build here. It just helps you get reported.

Let's get one thing straight: I don't care about you.

I personally care about all TRPers, especially ones looking for help. We could certainly use less of you here.

I don't care about anybody who can't be bothered to help themselves.

He's posting on a self-help forum... Are you really this oblivious?

Funny, it also got me endorsed by the mods in /r/TheRedPill.

I attribute my success to my attitude.

Real men measure progress in 20.4kg increments; not with upvotes, endorsements, and being in bed with mods.

This persona is very real, I assure you.

That's what makes your insecurities so laughable.

[–]tepper2-1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Real men measure progress in 20.4kg increments; not with upvotes, endorsements, and being in bed with mods.

Mods made their own choices based on the content of my posts. Deal with it.

Every TRPNewGuy should shut the fuck up and lurk more and not get assed out over "vitriolic bullshit" because they're bringing their beta tendencies to this sub and not listening to the most basic advice like "read the sidebar." The quality of questions and threads lately tells me that none of these guys are doing any of the required reading, which is step ONE.

You measure your progress as a man by your DL and squat. I'll do it by the number of zeros on my account balances and the quality of people I associate with. I think we'll both be fine.

That's what makes your insecurities so laughable.

You really got me there.

[–]TRPdating2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Mods made their own choices based on the content of my posts. Deal with it.

And you're being downvoted like shit right now. Dealt with.

Anyway, I actually replied to your post so others could see and learn from my points. I have no interest in engaging you with your trolling and argumentative female drama.

[–]tepper20 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

And you're being downvoted like shit right now. Dealt with.

Imagine that, the system is working as intended.

I have no interest in engaging you with your trolling and argumentative female drama.

Funny, doesn't seem that way.

[–]Skyking_Thundercock 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thoughts are common, and I even had them briefly during the anger phase even though I'm a very calm and happy person. They came near the end of my anger phase actually, because I was sort of in limbo between worlds and didn't really feel much of anything. Nothing left to do but get out there and kick some fucking ass, dude.

[–]OverdoseOfRedPill[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You have a point, being defeated by life is not alpha. Gotta dominate this bitch.

[–]AriMerman 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes. Research the complicated grieving model. After introduction and belief in the TRP, BB indoctrination becomes a trigger, instead of a self-reward, and the person could be left with almost nothing left that is a reward, or comfort, for coping.

[–]Yourelookingforhim0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

and the person could be left with almost nothing left that is a reward, or comfort, for coping.

I thought this was normal for TRP beginners? I can't imagine anything good happening to me for months, probably years. The only thing for me is discipline and patience, discipline and patience, forget about feelings or caring about anything, just work work work

[–]TRPdating 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Suicide is the 10th leading cause of death, just below the flu http://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/suicide/statistics/leading_causes.html

Over one million people die by suicide worldwide each year. The global suicide rate is 16 per 100,000 population. On average, one person dies by suicide every 40 seconds somewhere in the world. Global suicide rates have increased 60% in the past 45 years. http://www.suicide.org/international-suicide-statistics.html

Suicide is very normal. Nobody likes to talk about how normal it is. It isn't getting better, either.

I'm just going to leave this here, the suicide hotline number. I know you could google this, but maybe coming from one of us, an actual person, this might mean more: 1 (800) 273-8255.

[–]SnugglySadist0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

No. If you are having suicidal thought contact emergency personnel.

[–]ampwyo1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

there is a difference between an intrusive yet passive suicidal thought and the contemplation of or urge to take your own life.

I'll admit that during the my last break-up of a ltr I stayed up all night considering the act, but I realized that I didn't want to take my life, I just wanted her to feel as bad as I did, which is stupid, vindictive and weak... but more probably more normal than most people will talk about.

That was last October and I'm a lot happier now than I have ever been before because I'm doing the things I need to do for me, not for anyone else.

If you are seriously considering suicide please seek help, but don't think you're crazy for passing thoughts you have no intention of acting on.

[–]TRPdating 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thinking about suicide is very different than ideation, having intent, and the means.

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