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Title	WHEN THINGS ARE GOING WELL, SHUT UP \| How silence can be used as a power move \|
Author	[deleted]
Upvotes	165
Comments	62
Date	November 9, 2020 2:40 PM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/jqyr7j/when_things_are_going_well_shut_up_how_silence/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/seduction/when-things-are-going-well-shut-up-how-silence-can.1505381 https://theredarchive.com/post/1505381

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Why we see girls with taller guys then?

This is a western thing but generally height is masculine and implies that he's strong enough to protect her/their potential children .

"Men's traits are better designed for contest competition than for other sexual selection mechanisms; size, muscularity, strength, aggression, and the manufacture and use of weapons probably helped ancestral males win contests directly, and deep voices and facial hair signal dominance more effectively than they increase attractiveness"

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1090513810000279

Aka men are made to compete for pretty girls, by being powerful.

You have arguments with no scientific proof, and no empiric evidence.

https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=BjhdDgAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PA267&dq=info:7wfZOiwgWmcJ:scholar.google.com/&ots=cv3ECUkmZh&sig=rexa2Z1qO174hC4zQvUzritr-r8#v=onepage&q&f=false

You're giving off some major incel/fact denying vibes here by demanding evidence with such a dog shit argument as yours

Girls love to have sex, but they have more options and they see most of men as average.

Well obviously girls have more options, and yes they like sex with an attractive!!! man. Which must really piss you off or else you wouldn't be so triggered over it.

In order to choose a girl you like you need to be up to 7 or 8 out of 10.

Aaaand unrealistic standards, that's all folks this guy is too far gone

[–]This0neTime23 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah as a girl I agree with your above points 100%. Tall is good because it = strength. I want to feel safe when I'm walking down the street with a guy. Because there are other big and potentially less stable guys out there. Guys are like a mobile fortress.

Men are absolutely more looks focused than women, but what's great for guys is women are less concerned with theirs.

But all of these things are moreso wish list items, because if he's shitbag, then no amount of physical attraction/desirability can overcome that. Also there isn't a strong direct correlation between hot guys being good at sex in my experience.

Intelligence and a driven personality outweigh looks. Charisma can make feel more magnetic than being a pretty boy. I mean it's easy enough to think about this in relation to a car, the body panels may make the car look sweet - but I want horsepower and durability. What's on this inside always counts, and if someone can't make me purr then "meh".

I also bring to the table what I ask for and this guy is generalizing all women as shallow. Maybe they can sense his bitterness and hostility, why would anyone want to be with someone you think might hate you for being part of a large demographic you had no control over?

Be the best version of yourself, be realistic about your league, and stop blaming the competition. In life and always, focus on the factors within your control, and pursue what you want with optimism and determination. Thanks for being a voice of reason

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I think you’re projecting. I’m not forcing anything I personally always thought deep down that women rejected me because of my looks. However tons of scams aka pickup artists give men false hope so I just kept looking at their advice. I personally was always a very confident person, until I started getting rejected by girls, I was actually kind of popular in high school before I started cold approaching girls and getting rejected that’s when it all went to shit.

Believe me looks matter the most. Athletes are good looking they have muscles and they’re tall. Lots of them have pretty boys too. So yea it’s no surprise they get laid. And musicians well tons of them are good looking too, I know a guy that’s a musician he makes music and his a good singer but his short and ugly his getting no pussy he even told me his a virgin so yeah just cause you got status doesn’t mean you’ll get laid. Johnny Depp, Justin Bieber, John Mayer this guys got laid cause they’re pretty boys. Johnny Depp has always been a shy person his friend and everybody has said that his an introvert shy nice guy. Yet I’m 100% his gotten laid more than anybody in this sub cause of his looks and yeah maybe his status too. But if you ask him he doesn’t know shit about “game”.

Believe me it’s looks. Take the blackpill dude it will offer you freedom.

[–]BrownThunderMK 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Yet I’m 100% his gotten laid more than anybody in this sub cause of his looks and yeah maybe his status too. But if you ask him he doesn’t know shit about “game”.

That's the thing about game, game isn't about tricking women into having sex with you, Mark Manson has talked about this in 'models'. Basically what he said is that it's not about saying the perfect line or whatever other premade strategies you have to try and convince the woman to get with you, it's about being genuine and vulnerable while having something to offer. If woman have nice bodies and are pretty, are they going to go for a pretty boy who doesn't have a job and smokes weed all day, or the ok looking dude that she has lots of the same interest and hobbies as her with who lives a fun life and has money to support her?

-What I'm saying is is that looks are only one part of the puzzle, and even if you're ugly, does that mean you totally give up and embrace the blackpill?

Hell no, don't give up, you can make yourself into a desirable man, but if you believe this stupid shit about girls being superficial sluts then you're putting yourself even furthur into the unfuckable category.

Believe me it’s looks. Take the blackpill dude it will offer you freedom.

No, believing the blackpill would only make me complacent about myself. I want attractive girls, and being hateful about woman is only going to make me unhappy.

Why? Because I've been in a bad place mentally(constant suicidal thoughts) and I've thought the same things as you dude... That line of thinking only leads to self-ruin...

[–]anyJose -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Dude Mark Manson ms wife is ugly as fuck. His having sex with girls in HIS league. A man that is a 5 is only going to be able to have sex win girls in his league. An average man has sex with average woman. An ugly man has sex with ugly women. A male model will have sex with female models. Mark Manson is average and his wife is average too. Of course I could get laid if I have sexual with ugly women. But I don’t want that, my standards are too high. So I’d rather be a virgin than to lower my standards and have sex with ugly girls. The blackpill doesn’t make you hate women, again you’re projecting. Just because you hate women doesn’t mean I do. I don’t hate women at all, and I’ve never called women sluts either. You’re projecting your insecurities and your feelings of the blackpill towards me.

[–]BrownThunderMK 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Dude Mark Manson ms wife is ugly as fuck. His having sex with girls in HIS league.

Maybe he actually finds her personality amazing wow crazy woman are worth more than their body parts.

And so are men.

The blackpill doesn’t make you hate women, again you’re projecting.

It makes it really fucking easy to blame your own shortcomings on things you can't control though. And is very derogatory and sexist, although tbh considering how self unaware you sound in this next part I doubt you'd be able to see your own sexism, it's probably so ingrained in you that you have conception of what it means not to be sexist.

Just because you hate women doesn’t mean I do.

You're projecting your sexism on me because you're getting called out lol

I don’t hate women at all, and I’ve never called women sluts either. You’re projecting your insecurities and your feelings of the blackpill towards me.

This is so stupid you're just blaming others. Take some self-responsibility, oh wait, the black pill is all about being a lazy fuck who doesn't try and bitches about how ugly they are all day and how woman are 'sluts'

You're the one projecting as it's become clear to me that you can't form a coherent logical argument. Sad!

[–]anyJose1 point 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Why are you so full of projection bro? You even admitted that there was a time when you hated women and you felt bitter. And you think I’m doing the same but I’m not. How is saying that women are attracted to looks sexist?? It’s completely natural for BOTH men and women to be attracted to physical attributes😂😂 You’re super blue pill bro and you’re a huge simp😂😂 go and have sex with fat women “oh it’s what’s underneath that matters” hahahahahaha.

Again keep projecting bro, I don’t hate women at all, and I don’t complain about it either, but I want to help people who are like me instead of approaching millions of beautiful women and pay dating coaches to give them false hope. The blackpill will save people’s life. And it can safe yours if you admit that you’re ugly enough and walk away from dating. It has nothing to do with hating women, really bro you’re such a white knight simp walking away from dating has nothing to do with hating women. If a woman said that she wants to stop dating for a while does that mean she hates men then?? Really male feminist and their hypocrisy.

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So dude let’s say that what you’re saying is true. I want you to tell me that you flirt with a girl, then take her out on a date, then maybe have sex with her on the second date or the third date. But guess what a good looking male model doesn’t have to do that on tinder he just tells her to come over and boom they have sex. It’s that easy.

Secondly if you’re ugly even in person you won’t get laid. Lots of ugly guys here who keep asking “why did she flake” “why did she left me on read” blah blah blah. Well it’s cause you’re ugly, you can’t manipulate a woman into sex unless she’s drunk or on drugs. Attraction ain’t a choice most women are attracted to a specific type of man and I don’t blame them for that we men are too. But we have to accept that most of us will never be the type of man women want, because we weren’t born with the genetics and vise versa.

So instead of giving men false hope I prefer to tell them the truth. Most guys here aren’t getting laid and if they are it’s with ugly women you are lowering your standards. And if you like that then cool but I personally don’t want to lower my standards I rather pay for HB10 hookers than lower my standards and sleep with an ugly chick for free.

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