I start work at McDonalds soon, want to know how I can practice frame and other RP principles.

chadee · 2015-09-24T05:17:30+00:00

restaurant server... When people disrespect you you'll see them get angrier when you keep frame. Bullies want to see you react. That's why bullies pick someone vulnerable--like a low-level worker. You will deal with shitty people. Just keep smiling, give them a strange look and move on. See it as a test of your frame.

rurpe · 2015-09-23T17:11:39+00:00

You are gonna see a lot of people lose their shit over missing pickles or ranch. In your "real" life you will see people lose their shit over equally minor things and you will finally understand what "holding frame" means. If you do not control your emotions, your emotions will control you.

[deleted] · 2015-09-23T19:14:45+00:00

my worry is that constantly bending over backwards will affect my frame

I worked retail for a long time, unless you are necessary to the business, you have to take shit from people. Anyone who claims to have worked at a mcdonalds or whatever and not taken shit is a liar. In my 4 years of retail (worked full time there through undergrad) I had only gotten yelled at three times by customers. Sad thing is, talk back = get fired. In my last month (was starting grad school so I knew I was quitting) I talked back to some prick, it didn't matter and I didn't get fired, mostly because the guy really was a prick and my boss knew I was going to be quitting. Also helped that I was a great employee and got promoted a bunch of times.

All I would say is shoulders back, chest out, make eye contact with them, and maybe look a little mean. People usually don't mess with me as I have the male equivalent of bitch face.

Hunter2isit · 2015-09-23T23:52:29+00:00

As soon as you start working you should be looking for a position as an intern or in an office. That job sucks all kinds of ass. People will treat you like shit. You will not matter. Yes your boss is high on the job.

Honestly it is best to look for a job in an office. The experience will be far more applicable, even if it is sealing envelopes, you are exposed to a different culture. Commission sales is also a good background, you will be forced to live TRP

FG_SF · 2015-09-24T05:28:28+00:00

Thanks to the ongoing recession, your SMV will be through the roof

[deleted] · 2015-09-24T00:45:47+00:00

When I worked drive-thru, I took the opportunity to practice deepening my voice and making it sound sexier.

I hit the sweet spot with my voice when I figured out that a deeper, sexier voice has this consistent low-hum to it. It's hard to describe, but try doing an "om" like you're a Buddhist doing that "om" sound during a meditation session. Do not change the tonality of it, just a single, consistent, deep tone that is neither moving up nor down. That deep hum, but more subtle will be in your voice if you're speaking deeply and in control.

Use ample air when talking. Your voice should come from deep from within your lungs/chest. I think this is key to good singing as well.

You should not be talking erratically. Pick 1 pace with your words and 1 deep tone. Maintain it regardless of the other person's behavior or mood.

You can practice this by reading anything aloud at home. Sit down with a good book and read aloud while using a deep voice.

It only took me a few weeks to get good at this. I started getting A LOT of positive comments. I had:

girls/women making jokes about taking me home, straight up telling me I sound really sexy at the window
other men telling me I sound very professional for my age
someone asked me if our orders are taken by some central location because he couldn't believe that I was the one with that voice
2 people offered me a job on-the-spot doing phone customer service because they loved my voice
drunk gay dudes inviting me to an orgy at 2:00 AM

It was fucking awesome and really boosted my self-esteem.

Unfortunately I've lost it due to unemployment/social isolation/depression, but I recently started working again and I'm working on getting that voice back.

mustang_mike · 2015-09-23T17:10:37+00:00

I worked fast food for a few years back in high school, my suggestions:

Work hard-ish. It's amazing how little people try in fast food positions, so even a little bit of effort will make you a star employee.
Make friends with your coworkers. All the people I worked with in fast food were crazy, and I have some fun stories from those years because I made friends with them.
Don't let customers bring you down. Like /u/chadee said, practice keeping calm in situations where customers are pissed. Yeah, you are kind of their whipping boy at times, but that's life. Don't think of it as having to kiss customer ass, think of it as being given a chance to practice keeping cool in stressful situations.
Don't take it too seriously. At the end of the day it's fast food, don't get caught up in the rhetoric and don't let it affect you outside of work. That takes practice and maturity, so start practicing.

Title	I start work at McDonalds soon, want to know how I can practice frame and other RP principles.
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Date	September 23, 2015 2:46 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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