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The Male Abortion: The Putative Father 's Right to Terminate His Interests In and Obligations to the Unborn Child

Rare-Discipline3774

March 15, 2026
156 upvotes
/r/MensRights

https://brooklynworks.brooklaw.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1394&context=jlp

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Title The Male Abortion: The Putative Father 's Right to Terminate His Interests In and Obligations to the Unborn Child
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Rare-Discipline3774

Upvotes 156
Comments 17
Date March 15, 2026 9:03 PM UTC
(4 months ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1rupqtt/the_male_abortion_the_putative_father_s_right_to/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/the-male-abortion-the-putative-father-s-right-to.1575586
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[–]dreadandmalice 33 points34 points35 points 4 months ago (5 children) | Copy Link

This has been the standard for forever in the Netherlands where I live. Here you do not become the father unless you voluntarily tell the city you want to recognize the child as yours.

[–]Future-Stretch-401 13 points14 points15 points 4 months ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This is highly misleading. The father pays child support regardless of whether he recognizes the child or not. He pays child support until age 21 (unless another man adopts the child) and the child is legally his heir. Dutch law is even stricter than in the US.

What you are describing is only the man’s ability to claim parental responsibility such as spending time with the child and taking part in joint decision making with the mother.

[–]dreadandmalice -1 points0 points1 point 4 months ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Well yes and no. If the mother wants you to pay they have to drag you to court to get you mandated as being financially responsible.

However, she has to prove this. And as a man you can refuse the DNA test. The only other option is for the judge then to use other circumstancial evidence. Which might be very difficult.

Who is to say the woman did not have sex with other men?

Good luck proving that in court without DNA.

[–]ronsons1989 2 points3 points4 points 4 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A judge can mandate a DNA test.

[–]Future-Stretch-401 1 point2 points3 points 4 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The judge can not only order a DNA test, if you dont get the test he will simply take this as proof you are the father. Since DNA testing became available there is almost zero chance the father avoids paying support except if the mother refuses to ask for it.

[–]House-of-Raven 9 points10 points11 points 4 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It should be the standard, but almost no countries do it because they use men to subsidize the entire system

[–]McIntosh812 -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 months ago (4 children) | Copy Link

While there are clear positives to this concept, it would eventually become a bureaucratic mess

[–]Rare-Discipline3774[S] 15 points16 points17 points 4 months ago (3 children) | Copy Link

We're pretty good at bureaucracy.

[–]McIntosh812 -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 months ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Who’s ’we’ in this case?

[–]Rare-Discipline3774[S] 9 points10 points11 points 4 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Government

[–]McIntosh812 0 points1 point2 points 4 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In America? I think it probably ends up fine in America, I agree. It fits right into the more individual culture you guys have. In Europe, I think it becomes a different story due to different societal norms

[–]Mr_Richard_Parker 0 points1 point2 points 4 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Right because the fertility crisis is not bad enough. End hookup culture. Get people married off in early 20s. Make divorce hard.

[+]akmvb21 -7 points-6 points-5 points 4 months ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Hard disagree, but I’m pro-life so I don’t believe that women have that right either

[+]CharlieUpATree -11 points-10 points-9 points 4 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Please don't reproduce

[–]akmvb21 4 points5 points6 points 4 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Too late 😉

[–]Future-Stretch-401 -1 points0 points1 point 4 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m not sure how many people are actually going to read the whole paper rather than just respond to the title. Some good points are made, so I’ll try to summarize what seems clearly correct versus what remains questionable.

1) There is an important issue not addressed here. There is a third party to this issue, not just the parents. If the public is to incur costs in supporting the child then there is an interest in balancing the rights of not just the two parents but also the rights of the men (and women) who‘s taxes will be used. However little obligation the father might have it is in almost every case greater than that of those that are not the father. This is the justification for government involvement, to ensure that responsible parties pay child support before burdening others.

2) The concept that marriage binds the father to his parental obligations seems logical, provided his access to proof by testing is guaranteed. The issue of the husband not being the father doesn’t seem to be addressed.

3) I agree also that in cases of statutory rape the father should be able to terminate his parental rights, since he clearly could not consent. This brings up other situations in which the father is deceived into conception, which I’ll discuss in the next point.

4) I don’t think you should be able to excuse yourself from all consequences just by telling the woman you won’t be responsible for any future conception. Accidents happen and if you want to mitigate that risk you need to find an acceptable way to do that; like buying insurance. If you don’t insure yourself you have to be responsible for the consequences just as in any other area of life. Reasonable exceptions would be in the case the mother behaved in a fraudulent or reckless way (lying about birth control for example).

5) Similarly offering to pay for an abortion is not a reasonable or moral alternative to parental responsibility. This is no different than forcing a woman to have an abortion. You can’t buy your way out of responsibility at a massive discount (actually no real cost since the abortion would be free to low income women).

6). I do agree that women should be able to enter into binding agreements to accept full parental responsibility, and that judges should only have the right to nullify such an agreement if it can be proven that the woman was incapable of understanding the agreement.

The two points where I have a major disagreement with the proposal are I think ones where no US court could possibly uphold them, and there is no chance that any constitutional amendment could be passed.

[+]benevolentwalrus -9 points-8 points-7 points 4 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This only works if women have unrestricted access to abortions (which they should)

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