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[–]EthologicVestige11 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
What??? Nobody ever said catcalling is rape. This video refutes an argument that hasn't been made.
The video basically just said that a girl on tumblr said, like, when she was asked if she'd ever been raped, that, she, uh, was like, telling about all the times she's, like, been catcalled.
No dice. No credible feminist source, beyond perhaps the odd 14 year old blog commenter failing at argument, has ever seriously claimed that catcalling is rape.
[–]theskepticalidealist-6 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Yes some do say say catcalling is rape. She is addressing specific Tumblr feminists that have accused her of being a horrible person because she says her actual rape isn't the same as being verbally harassed. Its not so strange ive seen many feminists even define foreplay as rape ("coercion") and even call someone a rape victim even if the woman in question doesn't consider themselves a rape victim and enthusiastically consented to all of it (sex under influence)
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Yes some do say say catcalling is rape.
Who exactly.
[–]do_you_hate_me1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/19zzh3/catcalling_is_not_rape/c8t1qe5
[–]theskepticalidealist1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
It gets compared to rape and that it is "rape culture". The woman in the video is complaining precisely because these feminists on Tumblr she is talking to are doing this that then have a huge strop about it because she says its nothing like actual rape.
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No, catcalls are not rape. But yes, they are related. Any time you force your presence on someone, any time you try and demand attention from them that they are unwilling to give, you are violating boundaries
I see you ignored my last sentence. Can foreplay be rape if someone decides to have sex with you because of it? Can someone be raped even if they initiated everything and dont feel violated at all?
[–]do_you_hate_me-10 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Nope. I'm sorry but hardcore femanists will say it is rape. I've talked to them on multiple occasions, unfortunately.
[–]EthologicVestige7 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Oh, well that settles it then. Because evidence is for pussies.
[–]do_you_hate_me-12 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I'm sorry I don't video tape every conversation I have with a woman. Please forgive me?
[–]EthologicVestige6 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I haven't recorded every conversation I've had with men. But you have my word on it that the men I've spoken to all called for women everywhere to be raped and enslaved.
Since I didn't video it, you'll have to assume my claims are legit. right? I've talked to them on multiple cases, unfortunately.
[–]do_you_hate_me0 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
But since you're too lazy to google the problem yourself, I did it for you. Here are two posts, written by women, that suggest cat-calling is rape culture. 1 and 2.
Next time, may I recommend you google your problem before you run around claiming everyone is dumb and you're a genius?
[–]theskepticalidealist-2 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
But don't you know? Every feminist that doesn't agree with another feminist just means the other feminists can't possibly exist! Straw feministsss!
[–]do_you_hate_me-4 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Wanna hear something super shocking? Somehow while I'm posting logical responses and she's posting hateful comments, I got downvoted like crazy and she got upvoted. That's so weird. It's as though she called her sisters in.
[–]do_you_hate_me-6 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
What benefit do I get out of making that up? I will probably get no karma and I have to talk to you. Thus using basic logic, I have no incentive to lie.
Edit: But since you're too lazy to google the problem yourself, I did it for you. Here are two posts, written by women, that suggest cat-calling is rape culture. 1 and 2.
[–]cctchristensen3 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I this real life? There are really people that would accuse someone of rape for using a cat call? I am no fan of the practice and I don't cat call myself but this is basically thoughtcrime.
[–]theskepticalidealist-3 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
In France you can now go to jail for literally just looking at a women if she feels thats unacceptable to her, look up their recent sexual harassment laws
[–]Cthulusbaby-1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I hear a lot of feminists complaining about "not being able to walk down the street without being catcalled". Is this something that happens a lot in America or are they just wildly exaggerating? In my country I've never heard of anyone being catcalled, it just doesn't happen here.
[–][deleted]-11 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
It happens. My sister-in-law married a guy who catcalled her from his car. One of those Saturday-Night_cruising-the-strip deals.
What also happens is that women will parade around construction sites and the like trolling for catcalls as an affirmation of their sexuality.
In anycase: words. Get over it.
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