Uk false rape cases

empirical_accuracy · 2013-03-13T07:00:49+00:00

The key word is "prosecuted."

Most people making a false accusation are not prosecuted for doing so.

nigglereddit · 2013-03-13T09:30:49+00:00

One of the biggest things I've tuned into recently is the number of rape reports that are made that are subsequently dropped by the people making it.

I think I saw it was about ~30% of all rape reports are withdrawn by the accuser. Now, I've no doubt that some % of those are genuine rape victims too afraid to bring it to trial, but I would love to know what % of that are false accusations that woke up to what they were doing and did the right thing by withdrawing the accusation.

rightsbot · 2013-03-13T06:58:17+00:00

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undervannsjeger · 2013-03-13T08:47:17+00:00

Out of 159 suspected cases referred to the CPS, 35 ended in a prosecution.

If you have 159 suspected cases it means you have 159 false rape accusations, but they don't get prosecuted for different reasons.

PierceHarlan · 2013-03-13T11:15:26+00:00

Dianne Whitfield from Rape Crisis England & Wales said this: "There is a difference between 'false accusations' and 'not enough evidence'," said Dianne. "False accusations account for only 5% of all reported cases."

Ms. Whitfield doesn't mention the fact that most rape claims fall into that gray hole where no one can say whether it was a rape or a non-rape. She seems to suggest that the 5% is the totality of false claims. What she fails to mention is that, for all the claims that law enforcement can state definitively were either rapes or non-rapes, the wrongful claims constitute a significant percentage. That's a fact.

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2013-03-13T18:00:33+00:00

Two people a month are being prosecuted for making false allegations of rape and wasting police time, new figures show. The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) looked at a period of 17 months finding that in that time 35 people were charged.

Well their math is right. But I wonder how many actual false allegations are being made since they're only counting the ones successfully prosecuted?

Support groups for men falsely accused say the problem doesn't end when the accusation is proved untrue, as the claim remains on their criminal record until they apply to get it removed - which can take several months.

The fact that it isn't automatically expunged is ridiculous.

However, they say it would not be revealed to anyone doing a background check.

Well yeah. You wouldn't want to ruin her life over a little matter of trying to ruin someone else's life.

Men falsely accused but successfully prosecuted will naturally be on a registry for life.

Fucking Patriarchy strikes again!

Dianne Whitfield from Rape Crisis England & Wales says the number of men wrongly accused is small compared to the number of women who are actually being raped.

She believes false allegations aren't as common as people think.

All well nevermind then. Sorry guys rotting in jail or being ostracized by the community for crimes you never committed, some lady doesn't feel your plight really matters.

"There is a difference between 'false accusations' and 'not enough evidence'," said Dianne. "False accusations account for only 5% of all reported cases."

If 2 a month are being successfully prosecuted I wonder what the actual number is?

Presumably the conviction rate isn't particularly high for this crime.

Dianne says young women should feel sure their story will be believed when they come forward.

Why? Shouldn't it have to be proven? To believe person X when they claim person Y raped them isn't just a nice thing for person X, it means you've condemned person Y. Because either she's a liar or he's guilty. There aren't a lot of other options (doppleganger for an evil parallel universe?).

Title	Uk false rape cases
Author	RomeFlower
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Date	March 13, 2013 6:57 AM UTC (13 years ago)
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