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Need some intelligent perspective on cuckolding

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July 13, 2014
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Title Need some intelligent perspective on cuckolding
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Date July 13, 2014 8:09 AM UTC
(12 years ago)
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[–]Germansausage23 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Just let it go man, their are so many fetishes out there that really are hard to understand why people do it, but they do it anyways. A lot of these guys are into humiliation fetishes, and a lot of these guys are inadequate in bed, so instead of having the wife cheat, they open up the relationship where she can fuck whoever she wants. I would call these men beta, but that actually makes beta men look bad.

[–][deleted] 3 points3 points3 points 12 years ago | Copy Link

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[–]Germansausage23 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

What would you like to understand? Why men are okay with doing it? I mean from my perspective it's because he's a spineless pussy that is afraid to be alone so he gives into his wife, so she can fuck alpha guys.

But you might want to ask this question in the subreddit r/cuckold. They can probably answer that question better than us because I don't think the majority of redpillers are trying to get cuckolded. It is an interesting fetish to me, I can understand most fetishes, but this one goes over my head.

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[–]whoops_fap2 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Because it's about eroticizing betrayal and disrupting normal power dynamics, among like probably dozens of other possibilities (including being homosexual vicariously/by proxy, racism, etc.), it's different for everyone who is into it just like any other fetish.

[–]TRPCypher 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Whatever you do, don't click on this link. :p

/r/rule34

I fully expect it's a direct result of the beta-male attitude and feminism. He exists only to please her, even if he has to do it vicariously?

I'd be interesting to know where and for how long this kink has existed and then parallel it to the rise of modern feminism. Come back and let us know OP! Godspeed

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Pretty sure it is just sexualizing your inferiority-complex. Like instead of working throught it, you embrace it. You take the terrible feelings of inadquecy, fear, shame, guilt etc and sexualize them.

Find it kind of hot, in a "omg this is fucked up, guy is totally stoked that his wife is fucking 20 differnt guys, wtf, fap fap".

[–]madhax0r 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

For men who have low self-esteem, like a cuckold, it's probably really gratifying to be able to be completely honest and open about how poorly the guy thinks of himself without losing her. That's the sort of trust that is basically impossible to find. He loses exclusive sexual access, but in his mind he was unworthy of that anyway so there's no trade-off, it's all benefits for him. The rise of this sort of behavior, especially in the apparent trending of male chastity on the internet (in fairness we have no way of measuring how widespread that is) tells us something about the dismal state of manhood.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

He thinks/hopes he wont lose her, I doubt these relationships have a high success rate. No numbers or experience with it, but would imagine the woman losing all respect and attraction as time goes on, and we all know what happens when that is the case.

Being honest about it is one thing, but I am not so sure a weak man should accept, act on (re-inforcing the belief of inferiority) and sexualize it. I could get behind someone being honest about while working to resolve it somehow, but living this lifestyle is the exact opposite. It is accepting that you are inferior and embracing it.

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[–]2niczar 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's simple, really. Intense pleasure has similarities with pain. Also pain releases endorphins, i.e. natural pleasure drugs. Some people may get much more endorphins compared to the pain they experience, or past experiences may have dulled the pain while keep the pleasure part, or simply have wires crossed to begin with.

You could also compare this with hot chili peppers. If you're not used to them, it's absolutely untenable. But if you are, they're delicious, and they have a demonstrated anti-depressant effect by dulling the pain circuits, just like heroin dulls the pleasure circuits.

[–]1KyfhoMyoba 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The cuckold fetish is, IMHO, the eroticization of cortisol (the stress hormone) via humiliation, anxiety, etc. Sperm competition also plays a role. Men have larger ejaculations after being away from their partner for more than a couple of days, and the spermatic composition differs as well. Cuckolding takes advantage of these phenomena to provide pleasure to the (extremely) beta male.

[–]slcjosh 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm incredibly, incredibly agitated at the existence of this fetish, and usually I just choose to ignore things but I really, really need to understand this. I don't want to ask that subreddit because they will give me some BS explanation about the fetish aspect.

Dude, there is a fetish out there where a woman wears stilettos and steps on puppies and kills them. Dudes jerk off to this shit.

There is a lot of twisted sick shit out there. Dont bother wasting your time concerning yourself over a man who is so pethetic he gets turned on at the thought of his wife getting gorrilla fucked by men that arent him.

If it really bothers you that much, just consider yourself the bull male. Youre the guy some fucking pussy whipped dweeb would be jumping at the opportunity to set you up and let you ruthlessly fuck the living shit out of his wife.

There is no sense in worrying about silly shit like this.

[–]Endorsed ContributorCrimsonCapsule 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Having all your options for sex cut off might make you desperate enough to try any number of depressing and humiliating things.

[–]assinmygenes 1 points1 points1 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

A friend admitted to me that while I stayed at his guest room one night he really wanted to invite me into his bedroom to have sex with his wife, but that he chickened out. After he told me it was pretty much all I could think about for the next three days. As a man I didn't understand if he would get off on watching it or what, maybe he just wanted a threesome. I can understand showing a friend some pictures of your girl or something.

On the other hand there are women who get off on their man fucking other women like those at /r/cuckquean. This makes a bit more sense to me due to preselection and social proof etc. But it seems that these men will more likely have a fwb on the side rather than bang the entire town.

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[–]assinmygenes 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago [recovered] (0 children) | Copy Link

Perhaps they're proud of the fact that other men want their woman.. For what that's worth. It can't be good for the respect dynamic of the relationship. To each their own though.

[–]IamAwaken1 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I've got karma to burn why not.

To understand it would be complicated. Let's instead change perspective and see what everyone sees in this situation.

Typically the new guy is called a bull or something. Partly because he's usually a bigger guy with big muscles and a decent dick. As you can see this is an identity issue if you think about it. The man watches this bull pretending to be him. Or he sees himself as such low self value that he believes he deserves to be cuckolded.

The bull and woman basically get a good fuck. It's permission/encouragement to cheat and cheating happens a lot already.

This goes as far as the bull impregnating her, or some gay stuff I won't describe. (Sorry guys :-P) There's also an audience that likes to see it from behind the 4th wall and they have an additional fantasy. They get off on the debauchery of it all. Making it seem less desired by the man is more exciting because it shows more dominance and primal fucking.

That's a good end to this. In a way it is primal fucking with the man taking the role of omega/beta and giving his wife to an 'alpha' more or less. That might be the overall turn on you want to identify.

I suggest studying fetishes in general though. Usually the taboo seems attractive. You can see that by the role of racism in cuckold porn. Often the bull is a black guy. Makes it more dramatic for some people.

[–]Anderfail -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

These aren't really fetishes, they are men who are not even betas (that is below a beta) who have so little self worth that they see themselves as unworthy of the ground their wives walk on. Whether he or his wife brought it up doesn't matter because he's still a fucking loser.

I have zero respect for men who do this to the point where I would actively treat them as the bitch that they are because there is no way I could look them in the eyes and talk to them without bursting out laughing. That these men likely need serious help for depression is not my concern and frankly I don't really give a shit.

[–]red_count -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The guys who go for this are trying to 'own' being beta. There are lots of humans, so practically every mating strategy will be tried within the population. This is as beta as possible.

A lot of guys don't know on a fully conscious level that they are the beta bucks. They provide emotional and financial support, while their partners are off cheating on them.

The men into cuckoldry know what they are. They come out and proudly say "I am your beta bucks, and I'll lick up the cum of your alpha fucks."

The woman in the middle of this is getting a giant ego boost. She's getting both the AF and BB at the same time, and her AF are so damn alpha that her BB accepts and takes it as if he likes it. Because she is worth it!

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