Why did the machines create the matrix?

quicklogaccount · 2017-05-05T12:04:21+00:00

We designed a system long ago, which we often call "marriage 1.0" here, that worked for a few thousands of years.
This system was based on repressing both male and female sexualities with lies so these individuals could be artificially wired to, first, survive longer, and after that, fulfill social roles.
This should cover the "why people lie about sexuality" questions. Most people lie because they don't know. Take those people apart and both men and women lie because they think it is wrong (the vast majority of women that know stop here). The liars left lie because they think you'll need to focus on other stuff.

Now, many developed countries (and rich people in non developed countries) live in a bit of a "post scarcity" system, where survival is GRANTED. People that don't have to strive for shit are left with too much energy and repressing sexuality became too much of a burden, so it's making a bit of a come back.
The problem here is, some women believe the only repressed sexuality was the female and men did it because they're mean, so they're set to misguide men about masculinity. Don't hear them.

randarrow · 2017-05-05T14:05:53+00:00

In past agrarian societies, everyone had to work, everyone had to breed, everyone had to be straight, everyone had to protect themselves, everyone had to marry early. Also, laws and family structures were put in place to make sure these persisted. So, blue pill rules were correct behavior for isolated small societies, not for large or mobile societies. Red pill vs blue bill really just matches this dichotomy. We are a large mobile society now, so rules are different.

Was different in mobile hunter gatherer societies, or large ones, always fresh genes available.

Also, although monogamy was important for small societies, exogamy was also important at same time....

For example, let's say an isolated community only has 100 people. If some don't breed (social isolation, homosexuality, polygyny, plague, war, waiting too long, whatever), eventually the blood lines thin out and inbreeding starts and the whole society starts inbreeding and they die. Or, if people with slightly dangerous sexual habits (what was considered sodomy or abberent behavior until recently), they get ill and die, or become sterile; eventually contributing to inbreeding. Or, if men don't have a reason to contribute, or don't have a reason to stay, society dIes. Even people with undesirable genetic traits had to marry and breed.

This is really putting the cart before the horse though. It's not that these rules were put in place to prevent societies from dying out, it's that families and societies which didn't have these rules died out so, families and societies with these rules flourished.

Sodomy, NEETs, selective breeding, hypergamy are luxuries for a society. Might even say they help a society if the society is otherwise secure....

People are still teaching blue pill rules for at least five reasons:

Habit
Families which don't follow these rules fade out
Society still benefits from blue pill rules.
Individuals benefit from playing both sides, pretending to be blue pill while behaving red pill....
Encouraging blue pill behavior, is a manipulation tactic.

Lots of conservative/rules existed to protect people and keep families/societies together. It's simply that the logic behind them was lost or not conscious. Kosher rules for example both serve as a primitive health code and a way of keeping Jews together and isolated.

starwars765 · 2017-05-05T14:04:40+00:00

The answer to a lot of your questions is that they don't know. The answer to some of the others is that they think lying about it will keep teenage girls from getting knocked up.

That's clearly working. /s

The BP sub is just hate, and there's no logical explanation for it.

screaming_nachos · 2017-05-05T17:30:52+00:00

My parents did as well but always said, "Love isn't enough." This is true. I married my wife because our values, ethics, and character lined up. She is also hot and fucked good. I've told my kids as much. I actually think the "Love" answer is just a cop out and born of laziness. People don't want to actually question why they got married for fear finding out it was for all the wrong reasons or seeing the glaring faults in their marriage.
My wife is independent, strong, smart and stubborn. At work she is alpha-as-fuck and in charge of her department and has to lead the people that work for her, including having to challenge sometimes the higher managers. When she comes home, she wants to submit and does. Perspective matters. My kids only see her when she is here.
Idk. Religion. Social conditioning. Ignorance. Throw back from 50's culture. Maybe left over garbage from the 1800's prudish culture. I think it comes from an unquestioned ethical reasoning. I've told my kids all about sex. If they have questions I answer.
Again, I think there is some conditioned morality/religious basis here. If they describe it as fun, then they think that their kids are more likely to want to go out and do it. This would be in contradiction from their moral sanctity. The lies are just feminine sugar coating to keep you from challenging their moral core.
They lie because they are conditioned to do so. Santa Clause and other such nonsense solidifies these views. They may also lie out of ignorance. They lie because other people have told them that is the correct thing to do. Because they don't think they are lying or deceiving you and leading you down the ethical path they also followed without question. Most parents do not do things directly to harm their children. They are in fact doing it because they believe it is in your best interest. Unfortunately, it goes unquestioned until you discover the truth of the matrix.

How the fuck can people fail to acknowledge the fact of mass delusion, even if they strongly quibble (as I do) with many of RP ideology's finer points.

Like religion........ Unplug from it all.......

lead-by-example · 2017-05-05T12:21:34+00:00

Women propogate blue pill conditioning because it increases their power.

stonepimpletilists · 2017-05-05T19:57:45+00:00

Also, if you do the same things and make the same choices I do, then it gives me the comfort in knowing I did the right things, because the herd did them.

Also, if we are working from an identical framework, then I know how to interact with you, how you react to things, and can better negotiate with you for things I want.

If you act differently, you take away all these comforts.

redditer0 · 2017-05-05T20:09:26+00:00

Nobody "designed" the Matrix, it was built through evolution. Ginocentrism is an instinct.

That instinct tells you something like this: women are fragile (this is true in a savage environment but not anymore in advanced societies) so let's protect them from their real and imaginary ("opression") problems, and anything it can hurt them (even telling them the truth).

As there are not physical problems for women (like tigers and bears), now we "protect" them from opinions, the thruth, etc.

mrHappyPotatoe · 2017-05-05T17:11:36+00:00

Its result when children start to have children. Our parents didnt kniw any better.

RunawayGrain · 2017-05-05T17:35:54+00:00

My parents said they married out of love. They neglected to mention hypergamy, "Sexy Sons Hypothesis" etc. Why the misleading answer?

Because people are complicated, and your parents are trying to boil it down to a soundbite answer.

I had a dominant dad and submissive mom. But my dad played up my mom as being independent and strong. (she's not and that's ok). Why didn't my dad just explain that my mom was submissive by nature and liked it being told what to do. I think I would have been happier if I'd been told this. Instead, I just got angry that my always drove the car, made the decisions etc. even though on some level I knew my mom wanted it that way. This really screwed me up in the head.

If she's submissive, your dad may be right from a certain point of view. She has to be pretty strong to keep the reigns on her impulses. More likely dad knows that if he called her submissive she'd start trouble, though.

Why do parents wait so long to tell their kids what sex is? I'm guessing it's fear that the kids will engage too early or otherwise just mentally develop in an unusual way (?????). I honestly don't know the answer here. They can't just be honest with their kids but tell them to "hold off for 20 years"?

Because getting some girl knocked up, or getting knocked up fucks up kids lives. For better or worse, they try not to clue you in on it so you don't make that mistake. It's not a great way to handle it though.

When parents say what sex is, they falsely portray it. They neglect to mention that they personally find it fun, the frequency with which they engage (not that I want to know) etc. Why the lies?

Same as the above. They are trying to get you to wait for it until a point in your life where you can actually handle the ramifications if they crop up.

All the lies and blue pill conditioning fucks up an adolescent's mind? Do parents not realize that misleading their kids will threaten their sexual prospects, producing Betas, incels, pedestalizers etc.? Is it that society has changed enough (3rd wave feminism etc.) that coming of age got way harder? Do they on some level deep down want their kids to be virgins at 25? (serious question) Do they think simply dispute they simply dispute the notion that blue pill conditioning diminishes sexual prospects? (perhaps it's what they received so they assume it is the best strategy to maximize their children's future prospects). I honestly don't know why parents and society lie.

I can describe it as parents trying to teach you the way you should do things, vs the way things are done. It's an interesting thing with humans, that the definition of a perfect world, doesn't necessarily match what an actual perfect world might be, don't you think?

VasiliyZaitzev · 2017-05-05T19:42:56+00:00

Can someone give a really good explanation of why Blue Pill lies are told?

Because society needs Betas who are just smart enough to run the machines, and not ask to many questions.

Any time you see something and think "that's a lie" or "that's bullshit", ask yourself "Who benefits?", and you will find your answer.

In America, we adopted the "Prussian" system for childhood education. What are they teaching you? How to be good workers. They stifle the shit out of your creativity and get you used to getting up early, and behaving in an organized way.

Oh, and in case you haven't noticed, they're trying to get to kids earlier and earlier: In NYC they are now pushing "head start" for children as young as three. Three fucking years old. The only place a 3 year old child should be is with his mother and father. But if the State gets children away from mom and dad sooner then the State can teach the child to Obey the State sooner:

War is Peace

Ignorance is Strength

Freedom is Slavery

This is another reason we see the State replacing the father as the Head of the family by weaponizing divorce courts - which should be called 'misery courts' - against men and fathers.

We saw similar things in Russia after the Revolution. The Russian word for "I" ("yat") was stricken from the language and replaced by "ya" - that backwards "R" looking one - which is the last letter of the Russian alphabet and written in lower case.

How is a Russian address written?

RUSSIA

City

Street, Block-Flat

Last Name, Initials

So:

Russia

Leningrad

Nevsky Prospect, 12-1

Pushkin, A.C.

So have you got the picture who is important (the State) and who is not (the individual)?

On a lighter note, I did bring some satire, and yes there is enough for everybody: The Before Time: a TRP Origin Story

Gettingaware · 2017-05-07T06:15:39+00:00

The reason your parents lied is because they did not know any better.

The information may have been out there before, but you probably had to talk to a ghetto pimp, or a male who got burned too many times to continue to believe womens lies. neither are seen as respectable folk, to anyone.

But look at what the age of the internet has done to marriage, womens hypergamy, game, and TRP. not only that look at what is being exposed about the powers that be and how much crap the news feeds us, the things people will try to hide, and how easy it is to see just how crazy people are when they support a cause that doesnt care about them.

The internet is the reason you know better than your parents do now.

the truth is if there were people before that knew about red pill ideologies, do you think they were the type to settle down and knock up a woman. the men and women who had kids, like our parents, did so because they bought into what society told them what was right, never really questioned it, or if they did couldnt find the answers.

cirrusice · 2017-05-05T11:50:31+00:00

Because human psychology is fragile and you can make it believe anything if you make it look real enough.

Kriegsreich · 2017-05-05T13:41:00+00:00

Look up cultural marxism. Research more red pill shit. The info is out there and easy to find.

Title	Why did the machines create the matrix?
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