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Plates vs a high quality

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April 3, 2014

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I don't have much trouble attracting, getting and keeping lower quality girls and spin them like plates. I know how much interest to give them, how to treat them and to keep them spinning. But when I occasionally run across a higher quality girl I don't know how I should treat them.

Let me explain. In my experience the higher quality girls have lots of options and are easily distracted by the new shiny object. If I'm busy on a Saturday night then they can easily find another date. If I don't show too much attention they easily get caught up dating some other guy. Its happened a few too many times.

So my question for TRP is how do I deal with the girls I really want or the higher quality in demand girls. I've got my game down with the plates but I'm not sure what to do when I meet a girl that is in demand how to treat her to get her attention and keep her. In my experience treating her like the typical plate does not work but I don't want to go all beta on her offering her dinner and flowers.

Suggestions are greatly welcome as this situation has happened to me a few too many times

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Title	Plates vs a high quality
Author	[deleted]
Upvotes	12
Comments	32
Date	April 3, 2014 4:04 AM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/askTRP
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/222r24/plates_vs_a_high_quality/
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[–]Lightning143 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]Endorsed Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link

[–]redderthanpurple1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

Sorry mate, I dont agree here. Some women by nature/nurture are high quality. The reason why, is that they are not like the low quality girls who by all intents and purposes are just different vaginas with a new label slapped on them. A high quality female (in my opinion) is an RPW who is fit, attractive, has her own income and provides shit tests to see if you are/can be the alpha in her life. High quality women usually never put out on the first date. (unless you give them the tingles)

OP, if you want a high quality woman you should first gain some more experience with keeping plates and keep spinning them! They mostly respond to the same things. High quality women however need you to be their beta in some instances. You can be alpha, but remember that an alpha with slightly lower SMV cannot play dreadgame with a high quality female.

I suggest you enhance your own attraction, don´t compromise and keep playing the numbers game. Sooner or later you will find a high quality woman who will fall for you and the feelings you give her. Maintain frame, discard any and all females who do not respect your game.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

[–]redderthanpurple0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Hei man, I agree with your second paragraph. You are supposed to be alpha in every way that you can, but you cannot be alpha without recognizing that certain situations require you to be supportive, an essentially beta trait, that is what i mean by "employing beta tactics". A true alpha man does not need to vocalize anything, his plates/women KNOW that he is valuable because he CAN be an understanding, emotionally available, and supportive role model.

It may be that you and I have different end games, like i have said earlier, i am a social conservative, i do not believe women can ever be equal men. They should be treated like someone below you. Not because they are worth less ( contrary to that in fact!) but because they cannot understand your reasoning. You do not tell your kid they should not do something, you SHOW them. Likewise, when you are pleased with their behaviour you show them. When they are unsure about something, you approach the situation empathically and try to understand why they are acting the way they are.

When you reward a woman for being exactly what you want her to be ( a plate, a wife, a mother) you need to solidify this by also showing her the perks that come with it. I.e. a nice dinner out, a slow en gentle lovemaking, someone to give her sound advice when she tells you of her problems (Real problems, like death, family issues basically NO DRAMA issues)

It may also be that what works for me may not work for a guy who is purely about the pump & dump game, even though I also do that, my personal end game is to get myself a companion for life (or until I dump her)

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I am pretty sure we are on the same side but only struggle with definition. ;)

I for myself just don't regard those things as being beta.

That's what I was talking about when refering to that this is deeply misunderstood here.

Being an alpha male nowhere means being the biggest dickhead. This will work nowadays to fuck as many sluts as possible but will never make you a successful group leader.

In fact I for myself came to the conclusion that this only works today because of there are so many people in our cities.

If we were still living in smaller villages word would be around very fast of what kind of person one is and one would be disqualified for being unreliable and and not appropriate for higher tasks. While the person would have still given the ginatingles and fucked a lot he would never have become a group leader other than by applying force. Which isn't a wise choice because that is power only borrowed for a short amount of time. There aren't many really successful and longlasting dictatorships.

What we are talking about is empathy which is a significant trait. Even true psychopaths won't alway and directing attention. Even a true psyopath won't always act cold and unaffected. It's all about the balance. Also a machiavellian follower would partly use these this to reach his goals.

[–]redderthanpurple0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]Endorsed Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

[–]redderthanpurple2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

All power to you man if you know what it is you want.

Some guys here though want something a longer lasting than just a fuckhole. They should know that all women need some sort of validation. Being an alpha isn´t just about fucking sluts. it´s about taking control of your life, making sure you are the best man you can be. if that means fucking any cunt that walks past, hey you know your niche!

If some guys want a high quality LTR they need to realize that an alpha isn´t just about the negs, the dread game etc. It´s about establishing value. You are worth whatever it is she is going through to get with you. If for some high quality (not high maintenance as any bitch can be that) female the risk of calling out of work early to come see you while loosing money/prestige at work, which would she choose? She should always choose you!

You have to maintain a subtle balance between alpha as fuck and the beta to comfort her/listen to her. This is the recipe of a successful LTR.

Always be on your toes, be alpha, but realize sometimes she doesnt want the alpha, she wants just a hug or some kind words. Judge the moment appropriately as being too much of a beta WILL put her off.

[–]Endorsed Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]redderthanpurple0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My understanding of alpha is pretty much what you said. The best leadership has no whip cracking at all. I differ only in the "establishing value".

Women are emotional creatures, and crave emotional connectio just like we want physical connection. The emotional aspect of it in my opinion is the "beta act". You show yourself valuable as an understanding, well rounded man who doesn´t fear his emotions nor connecting emotionally with her.

If a woman is emotionally connected to you, she will be more sincere and by being alpha 90% of the time and showing her some beta 10% of the time. You will ensure that even if you dump her, she will still be your plate and may even recommend you to the rest of her friends because you are "such a good man!"

We may have different en games but mine is to marry an RPW who has her shit together, comes from a good stable family and whom I can further mould into the perfect woman for myself. What works for me may not work for others, I´m only saying you dont need to be hyper masculine and stoic ALL the time. Sometimes a soft touch is needed.

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[–]redderthanpurple0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Never denied that they were fuckholes. I dont mean to say that I am the only one who knows what women, high quality or not, want. What I mean by "acting beta" is the following.

Say your plate is goign through a tough time (family member dead, job lost etc) You will loose her as a plate if you dont at least show her you emphasise with her loss. You dont need to buy flowers or provide anything other than maybe at most 5-10 min showing her that you can be sensitive. I may have this wrong, but you cant succeed with dread game all the time. Keep frame but show that you care. afterwards, let her reward your attention however way you see fit.

A woman just like a dog/cat etc will respond to positive stimulation. When she does well reward her. When she is upset for a good reason (death, severe illness etc) give her some support. When she acts out, deploy the dread game.

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The plates go on and on about all my qualities so I know I've got a lot to offer.

Another thing that just struck me. So these women are basically telling you "You are great", "Any girl would be lucky to have you", "You're fine just the way you are" and so on. Does this sound familiar to you? Because it sure rings a bell to me, I literally spent half of my life time hearing these words and it led to a victim mentality and a lack of responsibility to make a change. You don't let women define for you how much you are worth, because then you find yourself deluded with the idea that there's no responsibility within you to make any changes.

"But I came here to improve my game to get higher quality plates, I am trying to make a change", but the problem here is the change you seek is external (seeking validation from the women you deem higher quality) when it should be an internal change.

There's always room for improvement in game and to be fair I'm nobody to be telling another guy how he should game so I can't help you with that, but what I can tell you is what to insist: Treat them as you treat other regular plates. Not in the sense that you do this or that to assert alpha qualities but that these "higher quality" plates are no less scarce than the less quality plates and not worry too much if you aren't getting any results with these kind of women.

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