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Married Man Sex Life's introduction to The Red Pill

ford_contour
July 26, 2014
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Title Married Man Sex Life's introduction to The Red Pill
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ford_contour
Upvotes 9
Comments 10
Date July 26, 2014 4:52 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MarriedRedPill
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/2bsfkf/married_man_sex_lifes_introduction_to_the_red_pill/
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Comments

[–]ford_contourMarried- MRP MODERATOR[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Athol has some terrific posts for how to apply the red pill to a marriage or long term relationship. I think he linked most of them from this article.

[–]ford_contourMarried- MRP MODERATOR[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In particular, Athol's thoughts on the values of Alpha and Beta traits is interesting in the context of being Red Pill in a long term relationship.

http://marriedmansexlife.com/take-the-red-pill/alpha-and-beta-male-traits/

[–]53Pirate0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I haven't read the book ... but I've done some reading on their forum and I'm skeptical. Sure seems to me they have a man jumping through a lot of hoops to try & make his wife's panties wet.

If you ask me ... if a man has a fit body; dresses well; has good hygiene; is personable; brings home the bacon; takes care of business (financial, fixes things, etc); steps up to deal with the kids & other things when necessary; engages in some man-pursuits; is competent & attentive in bed; ... that should be enough when they are already married.

If it's not, she's just no longer sexually attracted to him & all this scheming & planning how to make her "want" him physically is just jumping through hoops a man shouldn't have to jump through - a form of begging/pleading (buying?) sex if you ask me.

That's just how I see it .... others may disagree.

[–]UEMcGillMarried- MRP MODERATOR0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

I've read the book, it's part of what brought me here. He pretty much advocates your whole second paragraph.

He advocates a very redpill attitude including dread, no oneitis, captain and first officer and game. He does add some beta, helping with the house, fixing shit. But the grand scheme of things, it's definitely redpill, maintain frame, fix your shit, and the rest will fall in place.

I think a lot of guys when they first discover it, think its some magic elixir, just like "vacuum the house, and your wife will fuck you more" bullshit. They think if they do a couple things she'll magically drop and spread.

His follow up book is pure red pill. Fix your shit, put a plan in place, hard dread, next her if necessary.

[–]53Pirate1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

Well, I'd keep my house clean & fix shit whether I was married or not (did before I was married) ... that's just who I am - so I don't get that whole thing as being "beta" behavior & don't see how it should have anything whatsoever to do with sexual attraction. (other than if you're just a slob who doesn't attend to things any man or woman should) I guess it would be "beta" behavior if you were doing it with some kind of idea it would make her more sexually attracted to you.

It's like I had to tell my wife some years ago: "I'll mow the grass when it's bothering me, if it's bothering you ... feel free to go mow it." Same with vacuuming, dishes, whatever..

Ask yourself, if your wife decided to screw around on you .... do you think she'd pick her Alpha-fuk based upon how neatly he keeps his grass mowed?

[–]UEMcGillMarried- MRP MODERATOR0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, it has nothing to do with sexual attraction. Kay advocates it in his book more for a harmony thing. He is definitely not an advocate of pure Alpha. He'll tell you, you go all alpha on your woman, she may have sex a lot with you, but eventually the stress of insecurity will wain on her and push her away.

Briefly summarized, Alpha gets you laid, Alpha leads the relationship, beta keeps the peace.

[–]53Pirate0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Marital "harmony" is a two way street. When a man takes all the responsibility for "harmony" upon himself, she loses respect for him. You let her know (by actions more than words) what it's going to take to keep the relationship harmonious ... and if she wants it to be she will gladly comply.

[–]UEMcGillMarried- MRP MODERATOR0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agree 100%. The more silent leadership and less talking head I become, the more my wife fall in line. It's so easy sometimes its spooky.

[–]ford_contourMarried- MRP MODERATOR[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I totally agree. You make a good summary of what I didn't like when I was reading about 'game' theory.

To me, its easier to just get my own life together and set clear expectations with my wife, and then let it happen.

[–]RBuddDwyerMarried- MRP APPROVED0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Athol Kay seems to be getting a bit softer these days. I don't fault him, he is now making his thing the primary source of income for himself and his family, but unfortunately he is doing so by focusing on a broader audience of men and women; whereas before he was strictly men. You can see it on the MMSL forums as well, where the newbies and women had taken over and really lowered the SNR over there.

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