Looking for advice on upcoming date

samep04 · 2014-09-07T06:18:11+00:00

I use this post to remember my frame before first dates. It has helped tremendously

unstoppablo · 2014-09-07T06:41:24+00:00

A few comments.

I wouldn't be too serious about a Tinder date. If you're looking to keep her as a plate I would skip dinner and just go to a bar and escalate. I usually go to three locations in a date:
A place where you can have an activity and start escalating; a place where you can have something (quick) to eat; a place where you can drink.
Switching environments has been tested by other people in the seduction field, and I personally find it great because by the time you're drinking and you're in the third phase of the date (drinking or at a more relaxed place), you can already know if she's DTF.

Advice: keep it simple, plan your logistics ahead, HOLD FRAME and be the leader.

mbillion · 2014-09-07T06:48:20+00:00

Do not talk about school classes and future life plans. Do not ask her about what she wants to do after college.

Your frame should be that you're the fucking man. Just make fun of her, honestly. I swear that will work out better than discussing the futuristic bullshit that every college date asks me about.

Take control of the flow of conversation and lead.

PlusGoody · 2014-09-07T13:46:43+00:00

You can rescue the dinner mistake! Set or change the venue to a park or street in your neighborhood that has cool food trucks. You'll eat quickly and have the rest of the time to walk around and chat. If it goes that way organically you can go back to your place, but don't press that. The hamster dictates that formal "first dates" don't end up in bed; that's reserved for informal hookups with the excuse of booze etc.

Good2Go5280 · 2014-09-07T13:50:56+00:00

"Dating" is for women you're already fucking.

mbillion · 2014-09-07T15:57:34+00:00

First off you pulled this girl off tinder, there are very few negatives that can come from this. You are risking almost nothing to potentially have the reward of some sex. So stay calm, you do not have many chips on the table.

second, she is from tinder, an app, as far as my experience has been, made for casual hook ups. If she is meeting you, she is most likely already planning on fucking you.

as far as the date is concerned dont go somewhere as a grand gesture, this is just going to place extra awkwardness on an already slightly awkward/casual by design type of thing. I always think drinks is better than a dinner. Its the beta in you thinking you have to feed this woman, like sit her down and get to know what makes her tick.

The reason most of us suggest against the dinner date is because the transition from dinner to fucking is a tough one. American portion sizes are gigantic so after the meal she is going to feel bloated, fat, full, lazy, basically insecure. It doesnt matter if she is a 10, after eating most women wont transition directly to sex. So I hope you have a good salad place in mind.

If you are successful in making some organic conversation and things are working out it will be tantamount to success that you avoid interrupters. These are things like getting in a vehicle to travel somewhere, bumping into friends on the street, stopping at the redbox (a movie is a great excuse and girls who want to fuck know it - in a good way) - so be prepared to handle any situation that could arise that will break the mood.

Needless to say I think you may be sailed up shit creek, with my tinder matches I try to get them simply to come to my house, which proves suprisingly effective, or meet at a cheap, casual sports bar - that way if things go south you are not locked into any obligation other than free popcorn and a cheap pitcher

CarrotTrees · Sun Sep 7 18:27:22 2014 UTC

You're coming into this with a very weak frame, you sound thankful that she miraculously gave you a yes. Change that, you're the one probing and seeing if she's worth your time.

BluepillProfessor · 2014-09-07T19:33:13+00:00

All men in the history of the world got laid by doing 3 things:

Instigate: Make yourself a sexual being with the girl. Don't get put in the friend zone (if you pull a girl off Tinder and get Friendzoned it is REALLY time to up your game). Touch her innocently. Make hot eye contact longer than necessary. Check her out lecherously with a slight smirk. Start in, LIGHTLY at first, with sexual innuendos and double entendres- the English language makes it easy. You can do this via chat and text also. Just make yourself a sexual being, make your intentions known verbally- but indirectly- and start the first hint of the tingles in your target. Example: "I had a GF who kind of reminds me of you. She had this thing she did but...no, you wouldn't be interested in that" or (in a LTR) I texted my wife yesterday asking her when she would be home. She responded with a time and "why?" I responded: "Cuz when I don't see you it gets hard." Playful flirting and sexual banter are the order of the day at this stage. Don't overdue it. Be indirect and watch her closely. If she responds then escalate. If she does not keep it light and friendly, but firm. Watch for shit tests, slut defenses, and last minute defenses.

Isolate: That's the entire purpose of a "date." Get her alone like a serial killer so you can have your way with her. Touch her innocently (google Kino and study it for a few hours). Change venue to a more private restaurant or even a private table in the back is effective isolation. Get her away from the cock blocks and distractions. This is a pretty easy stage when you are married (even with several little cockblocks running around you can always put them in front of the TV and lock your Bedroom door).

Escalate: Move up the ladder. The kiss is most obvious but building up to that is critical. Escalate the kino first. Move your hand from her upper arm to her neck. Slide it under her spaghetti straps and very gently slide a finger up her neck. If she responds you can escalate very quickly. If she is tense and pulls away back off but only slightly. For example remove your hand from her neck but slide it back down to her arm. It is really just like the kiss- you start out slow and gentle, not by shoving your tongue down her throat.

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