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[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
domination and aggression has worked very well for PIV but not oral, what gives?
Have you ever choked on a dick before? Not everyone finds it enjoyable, let alone tolerable. You should probably let it go because it's just not going to happen with her. If you let oral be an act of her serving you instead of an act of you dominating her, then you'll get a lot more mileage with this particular woman.
[–]BluepillProfessorMod / Red Beret6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago* (15 children) | Copy Link
Women also have boundaries. Face fucking, anal, ass-to-mouth, swallowing, cucking, bondage, threesomes, even tit torture and suspension are not a God given right with any particular woman- and no, the answer is NOT always that she would be happy to choke on Chad's cock. That is the answer enough to make it confusing but it is not ALWAYS the answer.
Part of the appeal of giving BJ's (so I have read) is the dominance that you assert over the blow-jobee. Lots of girls- even prostitutes- don't want you grabbing their hair or forcing a cock down their throat. I don't understand why. Perhaps we should commission a study?
Pro tip: Face fucking, even just the ability to deep throat, is a relatively rare skill that not even most prostitutes or porn stars can do right.
TLDR: Just because almost ALL women want to be aggressively taken and pounded doesn't mean all women want to gag on cock. Some want to lick it gently and worship it while you squirm and beg and I think we need to account for individual variation and do a better job vetting if that is what you want :)
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
I can't wait for the bloopers version of this. Just, Seriously cant wait.
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Ugh... They've been non stop this holiday. I can't wait for school to be back in session. Husbands paying for bessy to go through college, and subsequently leave them can't come soon enough.
even the MGTOW are acting up on TRP. I still can't tell whose shit posts are less entertaining, or relevant.
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Funny side note, how many of the reasonably attractive bloopers wouldn't know a red guy even after being pumped and dumped?
[–]weakandsensitive-1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
did you read about the chick who got fucked by a trump supporter?
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Nope. Did he grab her by the pussy?
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I'm thinking those are the entry requirements to that place.
Projection, projection everywhere. Didn't the professor get a ban for calling one out on it?
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entry requirements
This tall to ride? Fuck, let me get my elevator shoes.
Ban
Probably, no idea. would love to have seen that one.
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You know old prifessor. Came in with good fauth, they shit on him, he went for blood.
Good times were had by all
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Curious to know what fag Down voting this sub thread
[–]social_autist-2 points-1 points0 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It was me, your friendly neighborhood social autist.
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Laughable, like it really makes a difference
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It's like a shit test. Sometimes you want to know what the hamster thinks it's doing
[–]weakandsensitive0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wonder how blooper's are going to spin this post of yours.
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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Why would you want to be with a selfish woman? She enjoyed blowing someone guaranteed.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women enjoy tingles, all other preferences follow that.
Rape, or 50 shades of grey... guess what the only difference is?
[–]Griever114-1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A nice limitation would be stop going down on her if he is already.
A simple tit for twat.
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[–]rocknrollchuck0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
she does not enjoy blowjobs
with you
FTFY. My wife said she would never do anal either, wasn't something she could ever see herself enjoying. Guess what? As I've gotten hawter, she's been willing to try. We've not quite gotten to where I can finish yet, but her willingness is something that would have been a hard NO even a year ago. What is your body fat %? Do you lift? If so, how often?
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'd buy that for a dollar!
[–]rocknrollchuck-2 points-1 points0 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
during the beginning of our relationship.....i thought monthly blowjobs was sufficient.
So at the beginning it was at least once a month
now that we are married the blowjob frequency has dropped off sharply to about once every 3 months on average
So now the frequency has dropped by 75%
she just finds them "disgusting"
Apparently she didn't at the beginning, or she just would've said no, right?
it is a really rare event to get her to give one.
And becoming rarer the longer you are married.
Don't fool yourself. I noticed you didn't answer the body fat and lifting questions....
*EDIT - I just saw your answers in your response to TheFamilyAlpha
When I first started, it was all about the showers.
Nowadays, theres been times that I hold her off, so I can go freshen up.
Girls make excuses to keep from fucking betas, and excuses to fuck alphas. This is nothing more than a barometer for your tingle production capabilities
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The whole "with you" thing is pithy, but not accurate. Some women hate blow jobs and will never do face fucking, threesomes, swallowing or anal.
Telling guys that she will do anything if you are more attractive, hot, rich, famous or care less is setting false, unachievable expectations.
I love rough PIV (that's fun for both people) but I get nothing out of giving blow jobs and I'm indifferent about getting oral. I do not want to swallow jizz or have a dick in my throat. Anal causes issues down the line, from GI distress to tearing, and not a lot of women find that to be worth it, even for Brad Pitt (who is 50 ffs; you need a younger example).
By all means, be as jacked and hot as you can. But some women aren't going to do things they get no pleasure from or find humiliating just to keep a man from leaving her.
30 year old Brad Pitt.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
rough and dominating and women love it. - False, read YMMV
Not all girls have the same kink, have you talked to her about the issue?
Not in a condescending/you're disappointing way but rather as a sexual discussion?
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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
You don't force shit like that, you inspire it from her.
Like anal sex, most girls hate it, until they love it.
Be a guy your woman wants to blow, check out all of the resources out there to do this. Either through manipulation (positive) or through a challenge, which works with competitive chicks.
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[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
my plan now is to basically refuse all sex
So you're the faggot who gets everything he wants for Christmas, but cries because he had 1 less toy than his friend, ok.
[–]DarkAges14 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
my plan now is to basically refuse all sex (she seems to want it more than me now) until she gives a BJ.
Bad idea. You'll come across to her as a pouting, shallow crybaby. Extremely non-arousing!
[–]mrpthrowa4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
You've got to be in a place where dominating and aggression are welcome.
Don't go all gang ho like an autistic person.
Have some social intelligence, push pull, recalibrate, look for cues from your wife. Have some patience. If she isn't open to it you're just not there yet.
I found the pick up field videos most helpful here. They are excellent at teaching how to push pull and watch social clues.
Practice them on your wife.
[–]GongShanks-1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Can you link to some of these?. There is a lot of trash out there.
[–]mrpthrowa-1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
A lot of people won't like these examples but they helped me understand that social clues fucking matter. The typical western male just sucks at this.
Try Tyler from RSD, he has some good videos where he explains what he's doing. He is very very good at making the girl feel comfortable with his advances. Especially good where he explains what he does when he senses resistance to his advances. Things like turning back, circling around, etc...
In almost all interraction this is what seals or breaks the deal - girls are fucking good at this intuitive feeling and it is what fucking matters, they'll have a lot of respect and will let loose slowly when they sense that they feel safe in expressing their boundaries without having to say them.
It's not about impressing her with your stories or some shit, or appearing macho, or forcing her to do things - that will just raise alarm bells. You can pretty much say stupid nonsense over and over and it won't matter. It's a lot more about making her FEEL good, and associating those feelings with being with you.
There was some post on the main TRP about the pre-sex discussion being essentially an anti-autism defence. It's true to a large degree.
A lot of people here are so boring to their wives then they whine that they won't fuck them. STIR HER FEELINGS. Sometimes it just doesn't matter how - One of the easiest things you can do is to simply be controversial. Just say shit that confuses her feelings and makes you stand out - i told my wife that I only want boys as children, no girls are allowed (jokingly of course, and never backed down). She spent 3 hours harping on about me being sexist while i was teasing her then fucked me at the end of the day.
This guy is also good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTjnFd6rAKU
Also this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkRtmh3Yxwg
I spent ages watching these videos and practicing at local places and my wife until i got the hang of it. It is simply formidable how you can CONFUSE the fuck out of a girls feelings by continuously push pulling until she just cannot take it any more.
[–]GongShanks0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's me. I feel like an Aspy when interacting. It's too binary. I need to learn better the nuance.
[–]DarkAges15 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
It sounds to me that she isn't attracted to you enough to be aroused for that. Slow down, lift, pass shit tests, and learn to lead more outside the bedroom. Slowly get back to ramping up the sexual dominance. It can be a long road.
[–]RPAlternate42Red Beret0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'd add that a hard "no" is in the same grounds as rejection. Treat it as such; you know your current relationship better than us.
Her attitude about the "no" will likely dictate how you handle it. I'm more aggressive than most in here with how I deal with sex rejection: A hard "no" would result in me leaving the house for an undisclosed amount of time, even if we had sex the day before.
[–]GongShanks-2 points-1 points0 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
How do you get that at all without context. These posts are starting to remind me of the blanket posts over on the Athol board where the board birches would just respond with "get your testosterone checked" to everything.
[–]DarkAges1-2 points-1 points0 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If Brad Pitt shoved his cock in her face, I'd bet she'd swallow it down like tequila shots at Cabo on spring break. Her husband probably isn't sexy enough for that yet. Nearly all (all?) women like dominance, so its good that he is upping that, but being dominant alone isn't enough. 95% of the guys who post on here and TRP need to be told to lift, read, and hold frame, so it makes sense that the advice gets repetitive.
[–]SDSAM211 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Aggressive PIV is your aggression. Aggressive oral from her is her worship of you. Are you worthy?
[–]470_2_700_nm-2 points-1 points0 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The whole description of her fucking loving the hard pounding is great. I would revel in the glory of achieving this feat. It's fucking Christmas. Create a story where Santa caught one of the elves fucking Mrs Clause... no wait be that elf and then fuck Mrs Clause telling her she's a dirty slut and she knows Santa would not be happy but fuck does she ever like this now doesn't she? I'll try this tonight and do an FR. Oh fuck it's shark week never mind. No wait it's BJ week.
Ah BJ's - that's what we were talking about. Here is my go to answer and gut on BJ's: They are a mate guarding technique. So my theory and experience is BJ's increase in frequency and quality when there is competition or some chance I am going to bail on the relationship (or I have already bailed on the relationship).
Sometimes I wonder if my wife is sucking my dick to see if she can detect another woman on it. I'm not kidding, after coming in to bed from being out later, I've noticed she will put her head on my belly, not necessarily for a BJ even.
It sounds like you are further ahead than me, I'd just keep going. I bet with some extra dread in the form of her witnessing IOI's and doubling down on muscle mass gains + lowered body fat, skull fuck nirivana may be just around the corner.
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