Two of my close friends are fairly alpha. Far from the blue pilled guys many of you formerly rolled with.

They're both fit, smart ( STEM degrees), and have had a good upbringing.

In my opinion, they're punching far below their weight in their choice of LTRs.

I mean yeah the girls seem nice/feminine/submissive but the looks department is probably in the 5/10 range (with no makeup).

I sound shallow but it's strange seeing high value guys settle like this, in spite of the nice feminine traits.

Is this how high value men have to operate to find successful LTRs? My friends have been with their girlfriends for like 2 years now.

Could it be that pretty girls are too much drama/ mostly lack LTR traits..