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Archive and New Forum Updates -- Sort by OLD!

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February 27, 2019
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Gentlemen, I apologize for being quiet these past few weeks (aside from our awesome AMA day which was incredibly active and a great mental exercise for some of us.)

I come bearing some good news and updates:

We have completed the backlog archive of /r/TheRedPill and /r/RedPillWomen.

As many of you already know we've been hard at work getting rolling backups of our content and shipping it over to Forums.Red. However, some limitations in Reddit's platform makes it difficult to go too far back in time, so our rolling backups were of popular posts only.

While we didn't see too much issue with that- some posts with only 1 upvote and no comments weren't exactly gold- it did hurt not to have a more complete archive.

Thanks to some input from our users we were able to use some additional new tools to fill in our gaps and finally get 100% of our content archived (sans self-deleted content):

Our Archive Now Contains:

105,000+ /r/TheRedPill Posts

2.6 Million /r/TheRedPill Comments

-And-

12,000 /r/RedPillWomen Posts

222,000 /r/RedPillWomen Comments

We've added a feature that is sorely missing from Reddit: Sort by Old.

Now you can go back to the beginning of time and see the beginnings of TRP:

TheRedPill Sort-By Old

RedPillWomen Sort By Old

You can also do user search (which I believe is missing from reddit).

Here's a list of every time I say the word hypergamy: https://www.forums.red/c/?search=hypergamy&timeframe=1&userid=redpillschool&submitsearch=Search

We are continuing our efforts to grab the rest of /r/askTRP.

As many of you know, our Forums are undergoing some extreme makeovers but given that our forums are starting with over 3 million comments and hundreds of thousands of posts we've been hard at work securing a robust platform that won't crumble under the load if/when we need to migrate.

Our original forums (which you can see clicking those links) are sluggish, ugly, and barely passable. They were whipped up very quickly during a massive subreddit banning spree to ensure we had something in place for an emergency, but surely not a perfect replacement. This is why we're taking our time now to do it right. Proper caching, design, and speed enhancements are underway to make this platform perform exactly how we want it to.

We have also been working with our partners to pre-empt potential censorship issues that may arise, aligning with companies who take free speech seriously. This is key given that our potential departure from Reddit is due to such censorship.

Our Roadmap

Our goal is not to divide our community, but instead use Forums.Red to augment our community until such a time where TRP is simply unable to continue on Reddit. Because of this, over the next month or two, we plan to open a few subtopics on Forums.Red and allow some time to wear-in the platform and stress-test it.

Our eventual goal is to allow non-RP topics, subforums, and their own moderators, to be hosted on Forums.Red with the following caveats:

  • The topic must be a "forbidden topic" that's at risk of censorship elsewhere
  • It must not be used for doxxing, harrassment of individuals, or revealing private information.
  • It must be legal under US Law
  • No Porn (There are better places for it)
  • Each topic must still be moderated for the selected topic.

Moderators who would like to test the waters on the new platform will be able to apply for testing (we will announce this in the coming weeks). We ask that these topics meet the criteria above.

We're not looking to be a replacement for Reddit. The issue with replacing Reddit is that it's a very large ordeal and most replacements hinge on being "free-speech" which ultimately turn into cesspools of "DE JEWZ DID IT" and various racial slurs. There is already a place for kitten pictures and I see no reason to try to replicate this.

Instead we want to focus only on reason and the pursuit of reason in the face of censorship. Each board will still be required to moderate their topic accordingly.

We're still working out rules and policy so feel free to comment here with ideas and critiques of our approach to remain dedicated to free speech while still preventing the dumpster fire that is Voat.

And as always, this effort is entirely out of pocket for me, if you want to help support the effort feel free to join our PATREON (Subscribe Star coming soon) or Donate to our Bitcoin Address: 1Hyyva2G5aCJwNqYToGoCCGATVNMB81zk7


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Title Archive and New Forum Updates -- Sort by OLD!
Author redpillschool
Upvotes 56
Comments 20
Date 27 February 2019 04:38 PM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit TheRedPill
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/225858
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/avffbl/archive_and_new_forum_updates_sort_by_old/
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[–]Modredpillschool[S] 9 points10 points  (6 children) | Copy

I want to add, every so often somebody comes along with their own archives, and we appreciate the effort and distributed nature of having other archives.

However, one feature that we hold dear is respecting our authors' right to remove their own content for privacy reasons. I'm sure you can imagine that privacy is a concern with TRP users and sometimes people trip up and would like to remove footprints that might lead to leaks in privacy. Because of this, we have requested that people who host their own archives respect deleted content- even if you can source it elsewhere.

We recently had a fellow who refused to remove deleted content. Given that some of the deleted content breaks reddit rules while others put users' privacy at risk we had to remove the post.

[–]1campfire4513 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

I created my account on trp.red back when it looked like TRP was going to go poof. I didn't have a reddit account to link at signup so I just skipped that. Then somehow I worried that someone else could eventually claim my trp.red username on reddit and impersonate me. So I created this account. Some of my older comments do now showup associated with my profile on trp.red, but I don't know if I need to do anything else to link them or confirm we are the same person?

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Technically, verifying just confirms who you are on reddit. Not terribly important.

Are you verifying you are https://www.forums.red/u/campfire451 ?

Please send me a pm on TRP.RED from that account.

I can manually verify you.

Also, for anybody interested, you can view and search your own history here:

https://www.forums.red/c/?userid=campfire451

Here's every time I said hypergamy:

https://www.forums.red/c/?search=hypergamy&timeframe=1&userid=redpillschool&submitsearch=Search

[–]1campfire4511 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks! PM sent.

[–]VickVaseline2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Thank you for this.

Am I right in understanding that this sub is only six years old?

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yup.

[–]VickVaseline1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I am flabbergasted. I found this place three years ago, and I still feel like a newbie. Soon I will have been here for most of the life of the sub.

[–]Wildlife-Solution4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good shit man

[–]clavabot2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Is it possible to have multiple filters, ie Sort by Old + Top?

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Yes, is old+top really worthwhile? (it will still show bottom posts for the day before moving to next day)

Which multi-filters would you like?

(mind you these may run slowly)

[–]clavabot2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I realize that that was a foolish request, I can sort Top all time to see that.

What i had in mind was to be able to see top posts for a year. ie. Top for 2015 only

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sure, date ranges make sense.

[–]Omnidempotent1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

But can we make a topic about the JQ? It comes up on the TRP red comments feed every once in a while but I don't want to clutter a sexual strategy forum with irrelevant topics.

What about HBD, national socialism, etc? These are things that other free speech/anti censorship sites discuss a lot, but not always at a high level of discourse (see: voat). It would be great to have a place to talk about these things without dumb trolls edgelording each other.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

But can we make a topic about the JQ?

I don't personally care about it. I don't think particularly poorly about them for acting as a successful economic bloc. I'm not opposed to the discussion taking place. But I do know that if we were to take on this topic it would put a larger target on our backs than most topics, so it's one I approach with apprehension.

First, I have yet to see a cohesive discussion about the JQ that doesn't simply devolve into name calling and slurs. You can't read a thread on Voat without somebody putting their retarded (((brackets))) around everything as if that is the same as making a cogent point.

My approach to many subjects is not simply the mere discussion but also the practical approaches to these problems.

Take TRP for instance- we recognize that mating is a zero sum game and then modify our strategies to better counter women's strategies. To the outside it appears as though our critique is hatred, but from the inside it's clear our goal is to understand their strategies to counter them (and ultimately have sex with them). Obviously our discussion delves deeper into society's natural predisposition to favoring women, and how that effects both our sexual advantages and how that branches into the rest of our lives. But most importantly our focus is learning how to counter the strategies. It's constructive, not prescriptive.

The JQ discussions I've seen do not follow this path. And while anybody here knows I'm the last person to start labeling things I disagree with hate-speech, there is a line in which people abandon reason and all intellectual value vanishes.

For instance, what is the answer to the JQ?

There are a few ways that can end... My personal opinion is that men of any background should attempt to band together into economic units and form small communities to protect against the tyranny of the larger culture, whomever that might entail.

I have been talking about this in our "building power" flair for a while now. Whether it's the Jews, Liberals, Conservatives, Globalists, or feminists causing my relative lack of financial and sexual security is almost unimportant on that front, as the solution to it remains entirely the same.

But this personal growth topic never arises in JQ threads. Instead it's simply a point-and-blame game with no real answers. This is why it is quickly given the hate-speech title. It's acknowleging the Jews' participation in the unfair world and then being upset about it.

Where does that lead? What are your options then?

Well we know there are many societies that decided the answer to the Jews is to expell or murder them via mass genocide. You can imaging why it's such a sore subject and one nobody wants to get near.

That you ask me about National Socialism in the same comment discourages me. If there were any merits to National Socialism, they'd be adopted into an ideology of a different name, not one famous for killing Jews. Anybody still going for it after that is intellectually dishonest at best, and brain dead stupid or evil at worst. The Nazi "brand," as it were, is dead. And the Nazis killed it.

But here we have a prime example of a group who decided to answer the JQ with mass murder. To me, that's not only morally wrong, it's intellectually bankrupt. If your ideology simply cannot function without murder and tyranny, then you don't function under a social contract that allows and protects for other things such as free speech.

On our new site, our main priority is ensuring TRP has a safe haven. We will manually approve additional topics as we see fit.

To elaborate on my position of protecting against censorship, I think I should clarify that the false justification for censorship is a qualifying factor for me.

When conspiracy nuts discuss 9/11 "truths" are censored because they're "dangerous," or conservatives who dislike taxes are called "alt right" or "Nazi" and silenced to protect the world from hate speech, to me this is a travesty and crime against free speech. Because these people are being silenced as though they were active nazis but for simply disagreeing with the status quo.

Actual Nazis are actually shit people. And while I think they should be protected by free speech in the USA, I am not certain they feel the same about others having the same protections. I really don't trust most people who engage in that sort of conversation to self-moderate. I don't trust the group known for murder not to cross the line from discussion to crime. Because they're not interested in practical, constructive answers, and they have a proven track record for genocide.

If I had unlimited time and money we could open the gates and start reddit 2.0 and let the lawyers sort it all out.

But we're a smaller group with a tighter focus and less resources.

What makes TRP so great is that, while we talk about ideas that are outside the overton window, we are also very selective about what ideas we discuss and entertain. We want the best, most intellectually riguous discussions. And that flies somewhat counter to free-speech as a concept, because we have to moderate this discussion to keep it intellectual. If you start posting racist jokes in TRP you will be removed. Not because we are anti-free-speech but because it doesn't serve our topic or add to our disucssion, which under attack enough for its own reasons.

I want to apply this selectivity to Forums.Red. I want to engender other topics that have been run out of the other towns because of their position outside the current overton window - thus the tagline "Forbidden Ideas." But I want to select the ones with intellectual rigor, because I want to attract the smart people, I want to have the smart conversations.

Is this truly free speech? No, it's not. But I think everybody will be able to understand that this undertaking is going to be a fight. It will be work and will cost time and money to protect. So if I'm going up to bat for discussion groups, it better be ones I find value in and can defend from an intellectual standpoint - even if I disagree with them entirely.

[–]Omnidempotent1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks for the response. Personally I am curious about those topics but it's good to know where your boundaries are with the new site. I hope it does well and I intend to participate (while staying on topic ofc).

[–]Endorsed ContributorDownvoteToDisagree0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Please don't let the RP community get overrun by fringe neo-Nazis looking for a place to harbor them.

[–]TacticalPolonium1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm glad this information is preserved.

[–]Blackboxbrownstrip1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

If there was app for forums.red

[–]Endorsed ContributorSKRedPill0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Who's archiving mrp?

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

If they want, I will.



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