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PSA - Don't Post Dumb Shit - Spend some time developing a cogent theory. Collect data over longer time frames with more experience than just one date where you almost got laid. If you have a theory, work through it before posting. And for fuck's sake, stop posting platitudes and top 5 lists.

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Title PSA - Don't Post Dumb Shit - Spend some time developing a cogent theory. Collect data over longer time frames with more experience than just one date where you almost got laid. If you have a theory, work through it before posting. And for fuck's sake, stop posting platitudes and top 5 lists.
Author redpillschool
Upvotes 300
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Date 30 August 2017 08:52 PM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit TheRedPill
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/226734
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/6x24ya/psa_dont_post_dumb_shit_spend_some_time/
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[–]1TrenGod3746 points47 points  (45 children) | Copy

Why was my "change your diet" post removed?

That was a post about being mindful of the negative shit you consume in your life. I don't see why that was an issue. Got a great response.

Thought this sub was about bettering yourself as a man

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet37 points38 points  (27 children) | Copy

Thought this sub was about bettering yourself as a man

Wrong.

The Red Pill is a tool box. How many times do we have to say this?

Don't say: "Hammers are for building spice racks."

Say: "Here's how to build a spice rack with a hammer." Or "Here's how to build a house with a hammer."

Understand the difference?

[–]zyxw986 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Talking about the recent quality of posts is beating a dead horse. But maybe you Vanguard guys and the mods help us out?

Posting original quality content is obviously not possible. But you can post links to old content or stuff from your saved section that didn't get that many upvotes? The sidebar can't be infinite and sifting through most of these posts have become a chore.

[–]1TrenGod37-1 points0 points  (25 children) | Copy

But the ultimate goal is to build. Same different.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet17 points18 points  (24 children) | Copy

Wrong again.

The end product matters.

[–]1TrenGod375 points6 points  (23 children) | Copy

And the end product of the red pill (ideally) is what?

Because everything I have read and come to understand is to become the best version of yourself...

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet7 points8 points  (20 children) | Copy

And the end product of the red pill (ideally) is what?

What is the end product of a tool box?

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor26 points27 points  (18 children) | Copy

What is the end product of a tool box?

It's still a tool box. It just sits there. It has tools in it.

This is what has been driving me nuts around here lately. There is no goddamn recipe for being Chad Thundercock. There is no Tony Robbins seminar that will make you pussy-slayer supreme. You have some diet tips? Uh huh. It isn't a TODO list; it should just be data. Data is awesome. Give some data.

No one can tell you how to become the man you want to be. You have to fucking become it on your own. We are here to share our ideas on our journey. Ultimately, you have to do it yourself, by yourself and with your own steps to complete it.

Fuck. Lazy fucking fucks.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet23 points24 points  (14 children) | Copy

It's still a tool box. It just sits there. It has tools in it.

Exactly.

This is why you are an EC, and /u/TrenGod37 isn't yet.

A man has to decide for himself what to build and how to build it.

Once he's done that, he selects the tools available to him and gets to work. He deals with the failures and frustrations, and he comes out the other side stronger, tougher, wiser - whether he is successful or not.

But without a man and a plan, a box of tools is useless.

Guys are always trying to assert that "The Red Pill is about X" or "The Red Pill is about Y". Those guys are rationalizing idiots who are still uncomfortable with their new "alliance" with this community.

You want to know what The Red Pill is about? Here is what it is about:

You are a man. You are the only creature on this planet fit to accomplish anything of worth. And because of that, the rest of the world will always try to twist your mind, or twist your arm - to force you, by deception or by threat of imprisonment, to accomplish their goals instead of your own. Learn to recognize when this is happening, and take back control of your life so you can do the things that YOU want to do.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

This should be the reply to virtually every question on Asktrp.

Concise.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

Yes, I have reread 3x and am trying to imprint my brain

[–]timmy2trashed0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Well that's pretty damn good. What's that from, or is that an original?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

I think many men arrive and did not see the potential these tools have and assign some magic to them and that's an important leap in the journey of unpluggung

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

The main problem is that they have no practice accepting responsibility, and are afraid of doing so.

When they were blue, the meaning of their lives was decided for them. No responsibility needed.

Now that they are turning red, their lives have lost all previous meaning. Real responsibility looms. This is frightening.

They avoid that responsibility by trying to make the Red Pill about something (i.e. self-improvement) - an external set of rules to which they can direct their rationalizations if they fail.

If you fail on a squat you can blame your back spasm, or what you had for breakfast, and then rest and try it again in a few days.

If you fail to bed a girl you can blame your wingman, or your approach anxiety, and then try it again in a few days.

But if you fail to achieve a real personal goal...well, your shot might be gone forever. It might mean you're useless or incapable. And who else is there to blame but yourself?

Who needs that responsibility? Easier to just lift and fuck club sluts and call yourself awakened in front of a bunch of strangers online.

[–]1TrenGod37-1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy

he comes out the otherside stronger, tougher, wiser - Whether he succeeds or not.

Yes the community (the toolbox) and the posts (tools) are intended to make men wiser, stronger, tougher. Aka make them better than they were or provide some type of value.

If what you're saying is true then any post should be far game and nothing should be removed if there's no intent. Just because you personally don't use duct tape because gorilla tape is better doesn't mean that someone else won't use the duct tape. Aka just because a post doesn't benefit you directly or you don't see the value in it. Doesn't mean it won't benefit someone else to help them build what they are trying to build.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

wiser, stronger, tougher

I put those words in there to bait you, and you fucking fell for it like I knew you would lol.

Stop trying to find YOUR meaning in MY words.

What you really need is for some dumber, weaker man to fuck your girlfriend (like her weed dealer, for example). Then you'll understand that strength and toughness don't mean anything if they don't accomplish your goal.

I sincerely hope this happens to you, for your own good of course.

[–]1TrenGod371 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

I agree with this so much. I wrote a post while back about being a pussy and not wanting to put in the world and many men complained that, That's what I was saying is not how some people learn. That they need direction and blah blah. All that tells me is they are afraid to fail and are outcome dependent.

Same with these guys who post questions on asktrp. What should I do or say in such and such a situation. It's like no one should be telling you WHAT To say otherwise they might as well be you. We can give the principles to follow and you figure it out on your own from there.

I can't imagine being at a point where I need to think of every step or thing I have to say to a woman before I say it. That sounds exhausting

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Same with these guys who post questions on asktrp.

I get your concern (disdain?). I do. But I actually spend a lot of time on asktrp trying to really answer these questions. Maybe this is a BP leftover for me, but when I was really young men, my father and his friends, used to try and teach me. Mind you, they were old-school blooper, meaning they were far more masculine that say 85% of the TRP readership, but they were plugged in as it gets. But still, they tried. So I try too.

[–]1TrenGod370 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I not only try I do it everyday. That's not what I'm saying. There's better ways to answer it than to give a man a script.

Which is what they are looking for instead of trying things there own way and potentially failing

[–]juliusstreicher-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Read the sidebar; TRP is about sexual strategy.

[–]1TrenGod370 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Humansockpuppet will say otherwise

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (8 children) | Copy

My guess would be because I've read similar content on sites like Buzzfeed.

[–]1TrenGod372 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy

I'd love to read them to compare. Do you have a link?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

[–]1TrenGod379 points10 points  (5 children) | Copy

I mean then we are talking about 80% of the things posted on here being like that.

The post about setting goals in the sidebar is exactly what this post is talking about and it's found in the side bar. Not everyone is at an advanced level and if it adds value to anyone even the newcomers in a unique way then I don't see why it should be removed.

Look the post isn't coming back and I'm fine with that I just think it definitely didn't fall under the category of shit posts. It was unique in its own sense and got a good response

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (4 children) | Copy

I'd take the removal as an indication of a new benchmark for your content (I see that you've submitted some quality material here already): if nearly everyone and their grandmother would not only agree with your sentiment but has already been exposed to it more or less through mainstream culture, it's probably not the sort of reading that helps TRP remain a place that provides uniquely useful and thought-provoking content to men.

[–]1TrenGod3717 points18 points  (2 children) | Copy

Makes sense. I guess I can't be mad at that. I will take that into consideration for future posts

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I'd personally expect something more than generic self-improvement posts from you. I've been watching you and I suspect that you are capable of something better.

You seem to have a past that might serve as a source for some good stuff. You been where I have been - at the bottom of the thrash bin that our society is. I suppose you should have learned some valuable lessons on your way up.

[–]1TrenGod370 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You're right. I'm still and always will be a student. Like I said I'll try to continue to bring all that stuff and incite into my future posts

[–]ImHerWonderland2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

That reply was incredibly tactful.

[–]sm-urf5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Top 5 reasons your current diet sucks:

No seriously it was a good post. Being mindful of your actions and consumption of any products, food or otherwise, should be an important aspect in every man's life, as you pointed out.

[–]joedevice0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

The Red Pill: Discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men.

Apart from 'work out, diet, and look as good as you can' that's pretty much all that's needed to be said on the topic. There's been plenty of far more in-depth posts about diet. It's not required here.

[–]1TrenGod377 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy

See that's not what the post was about. It was about looking at other less subtle areas of your life where negative shit could be feeding you. I mean if you want to say that, the post about setting goals that's in the side bar could be found on any self help website anywhere. If that adds value why wouldn't this. Not everyone is at the same stage of the game here

[–]joedevice0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Simply put, it's unnecessary clutter.

[–]Troll_Name2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Or as the mods here call it: signal to noise ratio.

Want to post a great thread? Go try something in the real world 10 times then tell us how it worked out.

Want to post a good thread? Study the crowd-pleasing betamale in his native habitat and carefully dissect what's going wrong.

Want to post a horrible thread? Do your best Buzzfeed immitation and include a link to your Patreon blog.

[–]1TrenGod371 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Noted. Will take into consideration for future postings

[–]Denver_Luv3[🍰] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I see articles that would belong here, but I can't submit them directly and have nothing special to add, so I don't submit them and move on with my day. There are probably a lot of people in a position similar to mine, so many people with something to contribute don't bother. Leaving the field to "tall + skinny" or whatever else people submit.

[–]Hienemyloser24 points25 points  (7 children) | Copy

I see your point but did the mod actually take time to read these post individually because considering the time stamps he went delete,delete,delete. Not only were some of these post good they also spawned decent discussions in the comment sections whether to criticize or to commend. So honestly this just goes against everything TRP is about and censorship publicly done is literally BP at its finest. Watch the Matrix.. because information was freely available once they swallowed the pill whether it was shit or not. It won't always be green pastures, but allows us as user to sift through the shit.

[–]Rian_Stone19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy

Normally, you open tabs of all them, close good ones, then mod them all at once.

It speeds up the slog

[–]jay1451 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

I don't know how long you've been here but I'm coming up on three years and let me tell you this is the only subreddit where I have no issues with censorship. Simply because of the subscriber boom and the subsequent retarded-ass posts made by newbies on an epiphany high. "i just had sex with a HB8 here's how to touch a vagine EYE CONTACT bullshit posts.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 25 points26 points  (1 child) | Copy

I read as far as I need to see if it's a shitpost. You taking 10 seconds to hobble together a fart doesn't earn the right to waste my time.

So honestly this just goes against everything TRP is about and censorship publicly done is literally BP at its finest.

You must be new here. That tired troll don't work on this mod team. Later.

[–]kelvin_condensate1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

These people want to spew pure shit and then claim censorship is bp when their shit gets cleaned up.

I appreciate your efforts, because it seems those just in the anger phase started posting and were using trp to justify bp concepts.

Purple pillers galore. It was getting annoying.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

read those titles man, other than "fuck all this self-promotion" (which got called out before it was deleted, because the guy was a self promoter), most of this shit was stupid garbage.

TRP gets less posts than MRA or MGTOW because the quality is drastically higher after all the shit is pruned (and even then, there are still a lot of "clearly didn't read the sidebar" posts). MR bitches about every fucking instance of inequality, and MGTOW just doesn't lay off on anti-fem memes.

[–]swordshab-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just goes to show this is still reddit and it's how they roll

[–]3whatsthisgarg7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes. And what about all the threads on Chasing pussy should not be your main focus?

I'm going to add as ban-worthy My Story posts also. Nobody cares.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil7 points8 points  (9 children) | Copy

I propose we take inspiration from the BBC and create a simplified Red Pill for those with deminished reading comprehension in Pidgin.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

It's getting to the point where these newbies need you to stick your hand up their ass and move them around like a puppet.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

In the words of BBC Pidgin: Das D Truf

[–]TooHoly9993 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

We could call it Normie TRP.

Where have I heard that before.

[–]KingUmed1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

deminished reading comprehension in Pidgin.

The ignorance is real.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

comprehension in Pidgin.

I knew about it but I had no idea they actually fucking published news for it.

Turn your key sir

[–]timmy2trashed0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Jesus Christ that was terrible to read

[–]biggerbetterjobs6 points7 points  (9 children) | Copy

True that. Sick of all the pseudo science and disinformation I see on this sub.. Especially the racist bullshit and "dark enlightenment/what they don't want you to know" fake esoteric crap.

It's really not helping guys who are trying to elevate themselves from the beta mindset and it comes off to me like they're trying to blame their problems on something else and gives a bad impression of the community to the ethnic red pillers.

[–]UFND 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Once upon a time I vaguely recall TRP attempting to take a scientific stance on the topic of sex over street wisdom or locker room musings back in the early days of this subreddit.

Unfortunately it didn't work out. It's not enough to point to a research paper and yell "truth!". That's why the notion of replication, construct validity, test-and-retest, etc exists in academic practice.

I'm not surprised about the lack of theory given the audience that TRP attracts - pragmatists over theorists. In addition, theory is often dismissed as "mental masturbation" (only the theorist would truly know you) over chasing after poon. Insinuations of being an armchair scientist / philosophies and so forth.

Naturally this would lead to theory-leaning folk to shut up, not post and/or keep to themselves, as they would need to construct arguments that can hold under the scrutiny of the bigger tribe (pragmatists). Hueristics over epistemics I suppose. Let's not forget the skills and training required in order to construct a theory or argument.

There's nothing wrong with this stance - to each their own. But by limiting ourselves to that domain, new territory won't be explored thus the front-page of TRP will remain the same by nature of the Eternal September that this subreddit finds itself in.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy

There is a lot of both.

If you want actionable advice, eventually you need to stray away from theory and find out what works for other men, and report back what works for you.

If you want the why, Rollo is usually a good read.

[–]UFND 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Regrettably I have more pressing priorities than reading Rollo. He has made priceless contributions that allow TRP to stand strong on epistemics grounds.

On second thought, on scientific grounds, I suppose most of the work is already done and likely better articulated by Dr. David Buss with his numerous books and academic publications.

His latest academic paper on SagePub in a psychological trends journal is sidebar worthy material with tasty click bait ramifications.

An appetizer would be that the optimal sexual strategy for women is infidelity.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

An appetizer would be that the optimal sexual strategy for women is infidelity.

Yeah, I think that's been very much covered by Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.

[–]UFND 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Aye, but either I have goldfish memory, or that I didn't consider the interaction between the mate poaching male (Alpha) and the one that's mate guarding (Beta) and (there would also be a dynamic between those 2 players, not just the woman.)[https://i.imgur.com/CsiMBXw.png]

Additionally (this picture)[https://i.imgur.com/FY51JRB.png] I think is a lovely encapsulation of how female contraceptives and social media put the ball in their court. Could it be a possible factor at what is driving the Misandrist Bubble? Could the possibility of male contraceptives break it? Only in history we'll know.

Nonetheless my point was that it's another perspective and model that could help people to internalise what they're learning, and maybe help a friend one day.

As Rollo says, Red Pill unplugging is dirty work. The more tools in the box the merrier.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I would absolutely read a complete cogent theory on this. Please post.

[–]UFND 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Write up a summary and post a new link, I'm sure people would enjoy reading.

[–]Rian_Stone1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Rollo essentially took his evo psycho degree, and applied it to game when he was in PUA.

Of course there is more to mine from that space. We just don't have a lot of guys with that background with these interests.

[–]NormedVectorSpace1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

What? That post about how women only want what they can't get was the first great post here in a long long time.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The point wasn't bad, the writing was. The idea itself needs to be more fleshed out. We already know playing hard to get works.

[–]SiulaGrande0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

FUCK YES. I LOVE YOU MODS. THANK YOU SO MUCH

lots of purple pill faggot shit floating around lately too. fuck that shit

[–]warrior4488[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

@mods Another point, it seems the members who post their theories seem angry and frustrated. There are no real world examples from them, no stories of success and how they got there, just random blabbering for the past few weeks that made me want to not visit this place!

Is this an advice/eye-opener forum or a place to rant and vent your life's frustrations ?

[–]Occams_Stubble0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Dammit, there goes my Top 5 Platitudes list.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

  1. Just be yourself.
  2. You're good enough.
  3. Nobody can love you if you don't love you.
  4. If it's brown, flush it down.
  5. Women are just like men but with tits.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

6 We need to talk about toxic white masculinity

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

"Problematic"

[–]do_it_or_leave0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I take notes from post's I enjoy and save them for myself. I was thinking of sharing my favourites from last years with the brief quote/note I took from it.

What do you guys think? I am not trying to get any recognition, just sharing something is useful for me.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If you have links to each post, and a snippet that you liked from each, I think that would be worthwhile to post.

[–]PitchingGranite0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Seems like a lot of people read that they need to get off their ass and get hobbies/do something means they should become a RP philosopher and start a blog. If you compared it to church it's like half of the people that show up decide they need to become a priest.

[–]ImHerWonderland0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Was going to do a Life field report in a few months. I haven't seen too many, if any of those, on here, but I'll be sure to take my time to ensure it's quality content.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

This seems fitting to leave here - Or to not be lazy and rephrase it myself: Knowing is shit, understanding is power. Actually develop the things you want to post/share. Similar to how in the post "Two aspects of Self-Development" the writer of the good quality post doesn't follow the idea HE HIMSELF JUST POSTED within his own thread. Develop...your...knowledge. Make it HIT.

[–]1TrenGod370 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Ironically enough I was going to write something about this. I swear some of these guys know red pill in and out when it comes to theory but when I comes to action they don't take much of it. I'm willing to bet a majority of men are like that here.

I actually have tested some of the theory's to see how much I can get away with. I'm pretty attractive. High smv. Jacked. Tattooed. Good game. I try to be the best I can be. With that being said i have plated women and experimented to see what I can get away with. Most women I can pour my heart out too. Tell them I miss them. Like them so much. Can't stop thinking about them. And they eat it up. I'm guessing because my actions don't quite line up with my words but it's still funny to test and see. I was actually surprised how I could much beta behavior I could get away with, with little to no ill effects when it came to plates. But LTR is a different story

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm willing to be a majority of men are like that here.

I am. WAY TOO FEW action. I'd be happy if it balances out at a 1:1 for learning and actually applying stuff. Its a plus if you can be smart about abstract concepts and theory. Then again i do not create theory out of my fucking ass to contribute. I rephrase, state viewpoints, apply critical thinking to stuff and say what i experiencend. In my opinion you actually don't need to be a master of game, a old sage or anything too respectable. You simply must be capable of thinking of what you are fucking doing.

Why do i find this worthy of being posted?
Would i upvote it if i would stumble across it?
Does it benefit my fellow men?
Is this shit tested by me or RELIABLE sources? (Unless of course its theory)

Just to give a few of the questions i think about before i dare create a thread. When i comment on threads as a new comment i try to be insightful. When i reply to a comment it is probably the least effort made, but always conveys atleast a viewpoint. Wouldn't want to reply "Thanks.", "Lol.", "I disagree.", "This", or similar shit statements which do nothing for anyone really.

[–]amekooky0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

this is great, I actually don't know how many times i've started to type up a post and realized wait this is trivial.

[–]stillah-3 points-2 points  (6 children) | Copy

you're going overboard my man. you're deleting posts based on your subjective opinion of quality. the majority of those posts are red pill related, which means they should stay. let the market decide what good and bad content is. that's what upvotes and downvotes are for. deleting questions is fine, but make sure you direct them to asktrp.

edit: i got banned for posting this. can't reply to anyone. i think its pretty clear what's going on here.

[–]MEpicLevelCheater4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Give the unwashed masses the power to choose and we'll be back to cavorting druids, death by stoning, and dung for dinner.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

Oh man you're right, the mod team doesn't have the responsibility to keep quality up and discussion on topic.

[–]timmy2trashed2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I haven't been around here for awhile, mostly because of bs being posted. Just want to say thnx for buckling down

[–]Rian_Stone2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

This is why single moms need to stop telling kids they are special.

you seem to think your opinion is worth a damn.

[–]lrph00-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Did anyone else check of their name was in the pic?

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