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TIL of Philippe Servaty, a Belgian journalist who had sex with over 80 Muslim girls in Morocco just by promising to take them to Europe

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Title TIL of Philippe Servaty, a Belgian journalist who had sex with over 80 Muslim girls in Morocco just by promising to take them to Europe
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Date August 20, 2014 2:45 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
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[–]heeb23 points24 points25 points 11 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

This is obviously not a Red Pill example. The man is a sociopath, who actually got women jailed and killed. These women were in shitty circumstances, he used the shit out of them by promising them a better life.

[–]whitey_male1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Its a very good example of how hypergamous women are though.

[–]LibertarianLibertine-3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I guess you could say the cooperation of the women is a RP example, but what he did is nauseating. Though I do wonder, is making false promises wrong according to RP? I can imagine it fitting into the PUA sphere to promise a girl to take her abroad and then to bail.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

PUA isn't red pill and red pill isn't PUA.

Since when do people study red pill just to get numbers? It's about changing yourself to be the best man you can be, women of course are attracted to a strong male with his shit together so it is related, but it's all about self improvement, not about picking up chicks.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

TRP is a sexual strategy, though.

And by "being the best man you can be", you're actually improving your masculine characteristics, to aid your sexual strategy. And being the best man you can be is subjective and based on your own beliefs.

[–]LibertarianLibertine0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I know, I merely intended to state it is related, thus I wondered how it would fit into RP, as RP is different from PUA.

[–]circlhat-2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

this is not the PUA sphere, and RP is just a explanation of why things work.

These girls are with this men for his resources,

[+]Endorsed Contributorzyk0s-8 points-7 points-6 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

This is obviously not a Red Pill example. The man is a sociopath

From my understanding, we classify as "RedPill examples" stories where a man acts as an alpha. Also from my understanding, an alpha man usually possesses the dark triad traits, one of them being sociopathy.

Red Pill does not mean "good" or "bad", I think we can all agree what he did was shitty. This should serve as an example of alpha behavior gone too far.

[–]LibertarianLibertine5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

There's NOTHING alpha about purposefully humiliating women (especially since they have done you no harm, but were actually compliant in fulfilling your sexual desires)

[–]Endorsed Contributorzyk0s-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

No, indeed, being alpha is not about humiliating women. Being alpha is about obtaining consensual sex from women by given them what they desire, or the promise thereof. The fact that what this guy's actions are reprehensible does not change the fact that he fits the alpha definition.

Think of it this way: there are two components to his story. The first is when he goes to get sex with foreign women by using his nationality and the status that comes with it. The second is him performing and filming humiliating acts with these women, then publishing it for the world to see. The former is textbook alpha. The latter is neither alpha nor beta, it's just sadistic behavior.

[–]writewhereileftoff0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

No...deception is a characteristic associated with betas. They are not nice. They pretend to be nice hoping for some poon. True alphas dont practice deception. They strive to be the best possible person they can be and stay true to themselves.

[–]Endorsed Contributorzyk0s0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Alpha and beta are not about personality, honesty or niceness, they are about social dominance in a group. Alpha dominate, betas follow. From that point, we have seen that women are sexually attracted to alphas and repulsed by betas. Maybe you are confusing alpha with "red pill aware men I would like to emulate".

[–]LibertarianLibertine-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you make false promises and agree to exchange sex for money, or sex for moving to a different country, and don't deliver your end of the deal, you're not being alpha, you're being a con man.

What this guy did is similar to going to a hooker and leaving without paying. It doesn't have shit to do with his SMV

[–]circlhat-4 points-3 points-2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

At least one of the women filed a complaint to the police in Morocco, after a CD-ROM of the pictures began circulating in marketplaces in Agadir.[3] The police arrested her, as well as many of the other women pictured, as posing for pornographic photos is a crime in Morocco.[3][7][8] At least two of the women attempted suicide while in prison, and several have disappeared, either in hiding or murdered by their families in honor killings.[

I see no evident of killing but one single sentence that says they may have been killed. this is no different than man using women which is just as wrong, Definitely a double standard that he got arrested.

This writer definitely has a feminist bias

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

What the hell this is so messed up, red pill example or not, this person is a total sociopath. He freaking blots out his face, and knowingly leaves and spreads the faces of women he knows are going to be persecuted.

Morocco isn't like here, it is a place where feminism is actually needed. Some of those girls were stabbed and stoned and raped and killed themselves because he uploaded it.

He could have just fucked them, kept it to himself, maybe showed some friends, but what did he gain from uploading uncensored pictures besides sadistic glee knowing they would be killed?

This is the ultimate blue pill, this is not red pill, this is beyond alpha/beta shit. This is OMEGA as fuck. I mean he didn't use his value as a man, just promised to give them stuff. So basically promised to be a blue pilled provider and then ran out, isn't that what omegas do?

Omegas in the animal kingdom are the ones that sneak around on the outskirts of the group, stealing some food, hiding, evading, using sneak tactics to get what they want. What a scumbag seriously, if this is what you guys would consider a proper way to get laid then all the power to you, but don't claim to be redpilled.

pics are hot though no doubt.

[–]bangbangahah11 points12 points13 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Seriously. What a fucking monster.

Sometimes you have to actually sit back and remove all this alpha/beta from your point of view and realize some shit people do is just fucking disgusting.

Like you said, these countries women are actually oppressed.

[–]Endorsed Contributorzyk0s-3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Morocco isn't like here, it is a place where feminism is actually needed.

I don't think there is a single place on the planet where feminism is "actually needed". Where women have it bad, men have it bad in other ways, to introduce feminism there would be to fuck their societies. It's already happened in a few third world countries. Feminism is never needed.

Were he Moroccan, he would have been persecuted just the same for taking those pictures. It wouldn't have happened in the first place, since there would have been no promise of a better life to make those women do it. The problem isn't a lack of feminism, it's a clash of cultures and a crossing of a boundary between two very, very different societies.

This is OMEGA as fuck. I mean he didn't use his value as a man, just promised to give them stuff. So basically promised to be a blue pilled provider and then ran out, isn't that what omegas do?

I disagree. An omega is a male who does not have any capacity to attract women whatsoever. An omega would not have been able to do what this man did. It takes some courage and some confidence to approach women in a foreign country and get them to have sex with you, so I agree with OP in his classification of this as a RP example. There is very little difference, categorically, between getting a woman to open her legs because you drive an expensive car and getting her to do it because you bring the promise of a better life abroad.

It's clear you're repulsed by the guy's actions, what should you take from it? Remember that alphas do possess the dark triad traits, one of them being sociopathy, so just realize that sociopathy that is unrestrained by society or law can sometimes lead to very nasty results. If you decide that you would never do such a thing, congratulations, you're an "alpha with a touch of beta", the high prized animal all women are trying to get for themselves.

If that's not your thing, have fun, just don't take pictures and release them publicly.

[–]circlhat-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Omegas in the animal kingdom are the ones that sneak around on the outskirts of the group, stealing some food

Actually that is quite alpha and shows intelligence , a omega male doesn't think he is entitle or deserves anything and will most likely starve.

A omega male would of actually took them to Belgian , got friend zoned got divorced , lost all his money, committed suicide and the feminist media would of said

"This men is owned nothing"

He could have just fucked them, kept it to himself, maybe showed some friends, but what did he gain from uploading uncensored pictures besides sadistic glee knowing they would be killed?

I glad he is in jail

[–]dallz_beep-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

TRP is about sexual strategy, not being a good little boy.

Seriously, read the sidebar before posting.

He could have just fucked them, kept it to himself, maybe showed some friends, but what did he gain from uploading uncensored pictures besides sadistic glee knowing they would be killed?

Maybe he's sadistic? (dark tetrad) Maybe he's narcissistic? (dark triad) Maybe he's a dishonest sociopath, and women are attracted to evil men over boring honest nice guy betas? Women dig jerks; is that news to you? If you can't figure out the lessons here then you are functionally retarded.

Morocco isn't like here, it is a place where feminism is actually needed.

Says the white knight who's too timid to enjoy dominating the women he's supposed to rule over. It's a Man's World; did you know? Are you even a man? Where is your courage to accept the burden of leadership over your females? If you're too weak then perhaps I should take them off your hands for you.

Omegas in the animal kingdom are the ones that sneak around on the outskirts of the group, stealing some food, hiding, evading, using sneak tactics to get what they want.

Actually, if they're good at it we call them Sigma males.

I can tolerate a stranger on the internet needing to grow a pair, but with +14 right now I felt the need to give a red pill response to balance things out.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

and they say theredpill is misogynistic.

Judging by your comments here, one would think otherwise.

[–]xxTin1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I grew up in 3rd world country and I find this disgusting. These women were in shitty situation and merely try to find a way out. He straight out lie to her and exploited it.

He's no different that "Nice Guy" who guilt trip women into sleeping him because he's such a looser.

Sure, these women exhibit hypergamy characteristic but so do men. Don't you want to marry hot and young women? There is nothing wrong with women being hypergamous. It only wrong when she denies it thus misleading young men into believe in false fantasy OR not fulfilling her end of bargain(cheating, etc...).

"Always leave her better than you found her."

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Doesn't matter, had sex. jk, that's pretty shitty. He really should not have posted pictures, that's completely inappropriate and people could get hurt. Lying to get sex? Eh. Deceitful but not the worst thing ever.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is just absolutely terrible.

[–]LibertarianLibertine-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So... Anyone got a link to the pics?

[–]LibertarianLibertine3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Found: http://pictures.mrstiff.com/gallery/scandal-belguel-maroc_2931848

[–]RPSavant-3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

what's the problem? The women did it because they thought it was their free ride out of there. It's not like he forced them. He got what he wanted. Lots and lots of sex.

[–]LibertarianLibertine4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The problem is posting the pictures online to purposefully humiliate them for them being gullible.

I do wonder what exactly he promised though, and how he did it. I mean, without the humiliating part, it's pretty impressive.

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