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"Leftover" women in China: a government-sponsored campaign to shame educated women into marrying young

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July 22, 2014
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Title "Leftover" women in China: a government-sponsored campaign to shame educated women into marrying young
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Upvotes 48
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Date July 22, 2014 11:03 AM UTC
(11 years ago)
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[–][deleted] 36 points36 points36 points 12 years ago | Copy Link

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[–]ltCameFromBehind-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No way. With that level of gender imbalance I guarantee that those women will have tons of men beating down their door well into middle age. This is just an example of the Chinese government lying to the ignorant masses as a propaganda method to get what they want.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points19 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How dare the Chinese government do this. Don't they know we are all special snowflakes who are attracted to women for their degrees and job status?

[–]Serres24 points25 points26 points 12 years ago* (9 children) | Copy Link

There are still a ton of guys willing to put a ring on these women, but if they focused on status and education their hypergamy will force them to exclude all people below them; however, no educated men of high status wants to risk marrying someone who is older and if they were homely to begin with what youthful power they once had will be gone which will also remove their feminine power. They mistakenly think men are intimidated by their accomplishments when really they are turned off by other things such as their lack of anything female. Guys don't care about status as much as women do - they are mostly indifferent to it, but looks, and feminine personality matter. So what will the these women have left once they are yellowed pearls who are too good for everyone not good enough? Bitterness and denial.

It's the same exact phenomena happening in other states. Women became educated and employed, and every man below them is invisible, but men at their high level simply are not interested in what they have to offer. As a result, upper tier women and lower tier men remain single.

Background on the term: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheng_nu

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea28 points29 points30 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This is exactly it. The article writer seems perplexed by the notion of the campaign given the excess number of males. Women are completely unable to see the self-imposed glass floor they're creating by spending their youth developing a career. In doing so they've traded their most valuable asset in return for something that does nothing for them romantically.

The Chinese government is surprisingly lucid in this regard.

[–]yummyluckycharms8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As it should be,

The women that can be saved will realize their inflated standards and marry. The ones that dont, wont procreate to pass on their failed genes.

In either case, the people win.

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[–]MakeMoneyNotWar23 points24 points25 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"Pretty girls do not need a lot of education to marry into a rich and powerful family. But girls with an average or ugly appearance will find it difficult" and "These girls hope to further their education in order to increase their competitiveness. The tragedy is, they don't realise that as women age, they are worth less and less. So by the time they get their MA or PhD, they are already old — like yellowed pearls."

No additional commentary needed.

[–]Andress13 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So we have to become one of those high quality men to be able to get any woman.Getting a high paying job was my first plan anyway.

[–][deleted] 6 points6 points6 points 12 years ago | Copy Link

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[–]--_-_-_-_-_-_-_--4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Resistance to feminism wont last for long. As more Chinese get wealthier then they become more selfish and abandon family values. The Japanese were much more redpill and look at what is happening to them with their very low birth rate.

Soceities where redpill philosophy is engrained into their religious doctrine can resist but the rest wont.... In China its the government that is trying to change things not the people themselves who want to be "westernised"!

[–]cascadecombo5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Comment:

Rachel :

22 Jul 2014 1:22:53pm

Wouldn't it be interesting if they started pressuring young men to get >an education, in order to secure a wife?

Isn't that what men already do? education, job, etc etc etc. People are incredible, complaining that China is encouraging women to get married because they know that their population is about to take a hit when they have more men than women and even then not all women are going to be reproducing.

[–]anonlymouse3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

Is this supposed to be a RP example or a BP example?

[–]Niemamnick22 points23 points24 points 12 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

It's a great example of entitlement. It's also a major heads-up for Western men thinking East Asian women are any less hypergamous than their Western counterparts.

Basically, "leftover" women are career women who are pressured by their families to finally marry. The thing is, these women have impossibly high standards and expectations, most of which Chinese men can't fulfill. That's the main reason behind this women's singledom.

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea15 points16 points17 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Asian women aren't any less hypergamous (arguably more than Western women; the push for a rich man with a car and house isn't taboo at all, it's encouraged) Their culture however strongly promotes early marriage and looks down very heavily on divorce.

A divorced woman in the West is empowered, a divorced Asian girl is a disgrace to her family.

[–]AnotherLostCause14 points15 points16 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Asian women are not less hypergamous but it is possible to find and marry a thin reasonably attractive Asian woman who has only slept with 2 or 3 guys instead of the 50+ that a comparable western woman will have slept with.

[–]Redpiller4566 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is also true of Japan as well.

You can easily find 8s and 9s in Japan that have had less than 5 sexual partners. Hook-up culture just doesn't exist there like it does in the West. Of course there are sluts in any culture, but they are the exception and looked down upon by their society as a whole.

[–]AnotherLostCause1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It is true of all of Asia. I think it would be possible to find a virgin in her early 20s with what are loosely called traditional values in Cambodia.

[–]Crackerjacksurgeon6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

most of which Chinese men can't fulfill

No, it's just that the men that can fulfill those expectations can pull younger, tighter ass.

It's the same everywhere, folks.

[–]weirdnamedindian0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe they should just legalise polygamy - which the Chinese have always had until the Communists banned it!

[–]back_in_towns2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's hard to say, but the Chinese government slams down those redpill truths in any case. I have to say I respect them in that regard, while most of the shit they pull is cringeworthy.

[–]anonlymouse-4 points-3 points-2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, Asians seem to be less hypergamous because they're poor, so even someone well off by their standards is still marrying up if they marry here.

[–]AnotherLostCause1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You are getting a lot of down votes that I think you dont deserve. I suspect it is because you are referring to places like Cambodia Vietnam and much of China while others are thinking of Japan Korea and parts of coastal China.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I honestly don't know. The government's approach is broadly in line with RP thoughts, but it is throwing a lifeline for betas.

[–]anonlymouse2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Isn't the point of the RP to pull betas out?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I don't know specifically what you mean by "pull betas out" in this context, but TRP is not inherently anti-beta. The amorality involved in the process outright makes most of us think beta is a bad thing and alpha is superior. Generally, TRP takes the line of, "It's better to be an alpha."

You'll see it discussed in many threads here how "slut culture" social initiatives gives more to the alphas and makes more betas (80/20 rule becoming more 90/10), but TRP should, and generally does, angle to stay out of these things directly. Social injustice or whathaveyou is more along the MRAs side of things. TRP is first and foremost about self-improvement.

[–]anonlymouse2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's not this context specifically, but in general. TRP provides information for betas to stop being so beta so they can do better for themselves. That's actually helping betas. Now in this context, that's not too different from what the Chinese government is doing, just a different method.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, you got it. I can see what you mean by "pull betas out" now, and you're exactly correct. TRP lets the betas pull themselves up and out of the pits. I just wasn't sure if you were saying the TRP wants to completely get rid of betas or shame them for being that way or what, so I gave a sort of blanket statement. Thanks for responding!

[–]jolly--roger2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

also, demographics. they need kids as the 1 child policies left them with an aging population.

[–]MooMooMooN0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I have always viewed marriage as prostitution and this just reinforces my view.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wouldn't mind a Chinese woman, they haven't been brainwashed by the idiots in this country to hate men and subscribe to the feminazi delusion.

[–]PlusGoody0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The Chinese government can do these thing because the Chinese government has actual long-term responsibility and accountability for the leadership of the state and culture, and not the brutal combination of pass-the-buck and pandering to the ignorant and parasitical that characterizes American politics.

[–]poopyhitlerballs0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Those backward Chinese are shaming women for not marrying young? They should behave like enlightened America where we shame men for not marrying ugly old bags.

[–]Bouncing_Back -2 points-2 points-2 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Leftover women in China? Exotic, submissive, slender, traditional women leftover in China? Can I get one please? No seriously.

Just went on a date with another chinese student off the boat. Absolutly beautiful, polite, happy, and all around feels amazing to have someone petite and slender in your arms. She tells me she doesn't like chinese men because they usually ignore the women over there. Don't know if I can believe that, but good god, if you haven't had a chance to date on off the boat. Check it out. Will change your mind about American women.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

Is your username "Bouncing_Back" because you're bouncing back into the Blue Pill?

[–]Bouncing_Back 1 points1 points1 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

WTF are you even talking about?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Exhibit A: "Can I get one [a woman] please?"

Blue Pill as fuck.

Exhibit B: "Absolutly beautiful, polite, happy, and all around feels amazing to have someone petite and slender in your arms."

Implying that these Chinese women are actually better people and not realizing that it's part of their social strategy to fake all those good character traits.

Basically, believing that [Chinese] women have an inherently good nature.

Blue Pill as fuck.

Will change your mind about American women.

American women aren't worse than non-American women, it's just that American women are entitled to be openly horrible, while -for instance- Chinese women have to hide it.

TL;DR: Your comment is full of a Blue Pill-mindset and that's also why you got downvoted.

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