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Thread in askmen: "Do you think cuckolded men are losers?" Goes about as you'd expect.

sheriffbigbywolf
March 2, 2014
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Title Thread in askmen: "Do you think cuckolded men are losers?" Goes about as you'd expect.
Author

sheriffbigbywolf
Upvotes 12
Comments 51
Date March 2, 2014 5:06 PM UTC
(12 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1zctgd/thread_in_askmen_do_you_think_cuckolded_men_are/
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Comments

[–]2comment44 points45 points46 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Anyone can be cheated on, it's how they react to it that makes them a man or loser.

[–]doomgoblin2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Elaborate, please

[–]2comment57 points58 points59 points 12 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

A man who stays is way too attached to his wife than is healthy, or is just plain scared he can't do better. Only other explanation is they fucked up structuring their assets to make a clean divorce but the costs of staying put polishing the wife's fuck trophy will financially outweigh that.

Having kids are about passing on your genes. Not the partners and her fuckbuddies. Cuckold comes from cuckoo bird: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brood_parasite

They lay their eggs in other bird nests, the hatchling usually hatches before any eggs around it and try to kick out other eggs through sheer movement, if that doesn't succeed they also usually grow faster and dominate the food, running the stepparents ragged trying to feed these little monsters while the 'siblings' die out.

Now, does nature think the stepparents are nice and kind and will ensure their virtue will ring on an eternity? No, they're stupid fucking birds whose lineage died out because they couldn't tell a fat fucking foreign bird from their own kids.

Don't be a cuckoo's stepdaddy.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Brilliant

[–]LordXerces10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (35 children) | Copy Link

Well, "loser" is a vague term. Cuckolds are suffering from a mental illness, in truth. I think some cuckolds have some underlying masochistic tendecies, but the majority of them have their self-esteem in a ditch. I'd pity them more than I would berate them, because they truly need help.

[–][deleted] 4 points4 points4 points 12 years ago | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

I don't think it's a woman's fantasy. But any woman who's man is wimpy enough to let another man fuck his girl in front of him obviously isn't going to think too hard about doing it. The fetish porn stuff's audience is almost exclusively male.

[–]Sturmgeist7816 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That particular brand of fetish, yes.

You'd be surprised how many women are into the S&M brand of porn.

[–][deleted] 1 points1 points1 points 12 years ago | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Women definitely get into other fetish stuff. I would presume most BDSM and the like. I was only specifically talking about cuckolding. That, for sure, is almost an exclusively white beta male audience.

[–]asd1100 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

What makes you so sure? BDSM is about power, that is a womens Viagra. But cuckolding is nothing else than a huge power play on the part of the women.

I tough so as well, until I realised how unapologetic the hypergamy beast is within the modern day empowered woman. It is ridiculous how many women ask for a swinging or open type of relation. Due to the "disrespectful" nature of mFf treesomes, I would guess that the former is more popular among women in relationships than the latter to domesticated men in relationships.

Because again, we have been told that our dick is special to a woman, as it is to us, and despite the unplugging RP still likes to believe that..

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I'm just going on statistical probability here. Most porn viewers are men by in large. Interracial porn itself is somewhat niche albeit still fairly popular but not in the top ten genres. There's commonly an interracial aspect of cuckolding as well so this coupled with the actual fetish itself lends itself to a consistent but relatively small audience in the grand scheme of porn viewing. Based on this its pretty likely that almost all fans of this genre are men. The same women that might watch it are probably the one's engaging in it. Why would they waste their time if they're already living it?

[–]asd1100 -3 points-2 points-1 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Most porn viewers are men by in large

do you still believe most gamers are men? You would be surpised.

but not in the top ten genres

over all probably not, in America, I think you would be surprised, again.

but relatively small audience

still more popular than prego porn

The same women that might watch it are probably the one's engaging in it

That makes no sense. The difference between enjoying a fantasy and actually participating is opportunity, logistics, a disregard for social norms and guts. So the number of actual participants would be significantly smaller that the viewers.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Depends on how you define "gamers." If you are talking about "casual games" like Candycrush then sure, I'm sure there's a lot of female "gamers." You and I both know that "casuals" are looked down upon in the real gaming community though.

Again, it's not. The most popular genres of porn for females specifically is stories and other erotica over visual porn by a long shot. That's why 50 Shades of Grey was so massively popular.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted]2 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

50 Shades of Grey is just the tip of the iceberg, erotic literature has been popular with women for quite some time now.

Anyway, I'm sure you aren't going to deny that minus "casual" games like Candycrush men absolutely dominate the gaming community with respect to serious console and PC games.

[–]asd11001 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

To both points I respond as a marketer.

You claimed 50sog was succesfull because it was erotica, I responded that it was succesfull because the publisher milked it like there was no tomorow.

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/08/08/tech/gaming-gadgets/female-gamers/

of course you need to take it with a grain of salt like all feminists references, but the issue is publishers know women buy stupid shit. That is why every new triple A has a female character lodged in the narative as focus group bait, mmo's are ridiculously popular and developers expect you to pay for add-ons more than the actual game. There are a lot of leg beards out there that waste their time with video games because they are as unfuckable as the neckbeards they fight on tumblr. A good rule of thumb, when you see something being hyped up excessively, movies series and so on, it is generally for women's benefit they base most of their decisions on social proof, herd mentality, if others like it than I will like it.

[–]LordXerces0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Gotta remember that not all of cuckolding involves race. For the cuckolding relationships that do involve race, sure there's white guilt. But that is only a personal flavor within the fetish, it does not define the fetish itself. And saying it's a woman's fantasy just seems wrong. There are way more men into this fetish than women.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

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[–]LordXerces0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Trust me, there is no trend to neglect the animalistic nature of female sexuality. That's one of the key fundamentals here. Of course it's a female fantasy for some, but if it is, then said woman is into heavy femdom. If she proposes to her boyfriend/husband that she wants to cuckold him, then she's extremely dominating sexually. Anything that has to do with cuckolding is not normal for human behavior. And honestly, the same goes for the woman in that case, she is also suffering from some kind of illness. I am not saying that it should be judged, but I'm sure they all wish for a more healthy sexuality.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

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[–]LordXerces0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

The only part you are missing is that cuckolding is an extreme type of femdom. It is the ultimate humiliation. There are of course those women who are simply talked into it by their husbands. I've seen this happen. But then there are the actual hotwives who gleefully fuck other men and agonize their husbands with it. There is your difference. That is when it becomes true femdom.

[–]asd1100 -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

You maybe right, I only know empowered feminists and femdoms, and cuckolding seems to be an extension of the former. Because it seems like an extension of feminism and crushing masculinity rather than a sexual power play.

[–]LordXerces1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

It really isn't an extension of the feminist mindset. You are overthinking it. Sexuality lies in the subconscious, while concepts like feminism are conscious thoughts. If a woman truly hates men so much that she wants to feed her husband some other guy's cum directly from her pussy, then she is fucked up beyond all repair. Most women are not like that. Believe it or not, the majority of cuckold relationships come to life through very perusasive husbands. Just a quick Google will give you a countless amount of posts from very confused women who have been handed the idea by their husbands, and the high majority of women would find the idea extremely weird and even repulsive. The concept is so unnatural that it is very difficult to come across without access to the internet, and the deepest pits of the internet at that.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

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[–]LordXerces1 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I understand your reluctance, but it's simply the truth. If a woman cheats, part of the thrill is the cheating itself, and another motivation is that they distance their husbands completely from the act, as if the husband was never there in the first place. Cheaters suspend reality from the affair. If a woman wants to surpass the cheating, she will most often ask for an open relationship. Cuckolding is a much more complex puzzle. The one who gets the most pleasure out of a cuckold relationship is the husband. The extreme pain and pleasure is described by cuckolds as an unfathomable high. The woman, on the other hand, will just experience ... Sex. The only exception is if she's a sadomasochist. Then she gets a high out of it aswell.

But once again, a large portion of women who practice cuckolding admit that the highest motivation for their involvement is please their husbands. Seriously, just go and Google the topic and you will find a surprising amount of women who have been asked to do this by their partners. You will also see that most of them are quite confused and unsure of how to react.

Sexuality is an extention of personality for sure, but personality only reaches a certain depth. And feminism will rarely drive a women towards cuckolding, and I am doubtful that a general contempt for men will do that either. You have to understand that the majority of feminists do not truly understand what it is that they believe in. They believe that they fight for equality and equal rights. They do not realize that their world view is perverse and obscene. They believe they are the good guys, just like anyone with a fundamentalist view does.

[–]asd11000 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Right there at the start you lost me, the reason a woman cheat is to have sex(and attention) with other men. The rest is bullshit(it's there but it doesn't constitute a reason in itself).

Open relationships are just a shit test men fail. And I see cuckolding as and even shittier test.

A women doesn't ask you to fuck other men, if she is thinking about it, she genuinely stoped having the tingles for you. She probes your psyche for an opening, some men want to fuck other women, so she lets herself be convinced by the man to change it up to an open relationship and then swinging and sometime the other girl is a no show and the guy gets only to watch(I know 2 bitches that played this exact game up to this level, one made the guy film it) and from there I genuinely don't see a huge step to cuckolding.

Ok, I won't google it because most new age sexual enlightenment is filled with blue pill bullshit if your a member here and a local kink community you should know this in most of the community the pussy is raised to platinum status even if it's attached to a 4. Also, a person doesn't do kinky shit just to appease their spouse on a regular basis. If they do it regularly they like it to. Women have sexual urges and kinks she will act on them, but unless you are quite the alpha so she feels cool opening up to you she won't tell you upfront rather she engineers the situation so she can act on them. Also you can be the ghost of black Phillip in person and have a golden cock but if you have a normal vanilla girl even madly in love with you, you still wont get to do something she hates more than once. Twice with a little dread game, some alcohol and a lot of lube.

Of course not, the causality is non existent, but there is a correlation as both are generated by contempt, not hate, for men. And I don't mean collage graduates that took women's studies when I say feminist, I mean peaked in college and already has 3 cats, let herself go, the patriarchy is responsible for being broke and not having a sugar daddy that supports her artistic endevours feminist. That is the type that ferments her self hate into pure evil, and god forbid you be her white knight.

[–]erich_von_stalhein1 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Also, a person doesn't do kinky shit just to appease their spouse on a regular basis. If they do it regularly they like it to.

Women do kinky shit just to appease me on a regular basis.

[–]asd11001 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Because they like it to, but like with sex, they wouldn't be favours if they admitted it.

[–]erich_von_stalhein1 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean at all. I don't follow your syntax.

[–]asd11001 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

women do kinky shit because they also like it, not just to get "good girl" points.

But they pretent to not like it, because like with sex, they know they can leverage those services into getting shit from you.

Pretenting to not like the kink also puts them in a position to enjoy the kinky shit while still being a innocent angel from their point of view, because you are the perv that asked for the rim job, and she is just being a good and caring girlfriend.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's a woman's ideal mating strategy. Alpha fux, beta bux. Some governments even protect cheating sluts by banning paternity tests. And, of course, enforcing child support on cuckolded men (for the children of course)

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[–]LordXerces-1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You'd be a loser within sexual evolutionary terms, for certain. That's why I said the term "loser" is vague.

[–]erich_von_stalhein1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In sexual evolutionary terms, smarter than leaving it there ...

[–]alphathujone-3 points-2 points-1 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

How does a man unknowingly suck another man's cum out of his wife's vag?

[–]MagicGainbow7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Briefly.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]coolbang-1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

assuming she even fucked him

[–]watersign3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

id say the majority of the modern male species are white knights these days.

[–]redpilltree1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I have absolutely no sympathy for the close-minded ones.

These are the same people that claim to be open-minded yet when you give them advice they rub shit on your face for disturbing the waters of their paradigm.

Good riddance, more pussy for the game-aware.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Evers895 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Not necessarily. It's just not possible to hunt through every commenters post history to see if they post here. In doing so, that would indicate extreme rage and bitterness. Probably cause said mod is a bitch.

To your question at hand, was your comment in any way shape or form offensive? Or shameful? A lot of the subs against us refuse to have any sort of insults throwing around even if justified. They live in a fantasy of being victims and no responsibility.

Example: A girl over in creepypms was legitimately leading some guy on and in the same token, playing victim to the people there with his screenshots. I called her on it and got a huge lecture from one of their "mods"...

[–]Olipyr0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Example: A girl over in creepypms was legitimately leading some guy on and in the same token, playing victim to the people there with his screenshots. I called her on it and got a huge lecture from one of their "mods"...

I did the same and got banned. Called her out on there being way more to the story than what she was presenting. There was.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

To your question at hand, was your comment in any way shape or form offensive? Or shameful?

It was my average commenting style, gave an honest answer, don't remember the contents other than sticking around is for losers.

I mean, if someone asks a question "Am I a loser?", expect some yeses. jeesh.

[–]Evers890 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Aha yeah that sounds like enough evidence to get a delete out of it. These places like to hear what they want to hear and the mods encourage it. As a matter of fact, until I found this place, I assumed most of reddit lived in this fantasy land.

It wasn't until I was here that I got and dealt information that hurt, but was necessary. I appreciate it and I'm sure they did too.

They should ditch the ask prefix and just call the sub "Coddle to my feelings and tell me good things".

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yes.

[–]icallmyselfmonster0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I commented on that thread and my comment got up-voted significantly. It's not all brutal there.

[–]luxury_banana0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's about half/half. So not all of them are deluded and/or pathetic.

[–]Endorsed ContributorLastRevision0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Raising another guy's children is signing up to be a male nanny. Period.

[–]erich_von_stalhein0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe they are losers.

But according to A Billion Wicked Thoughts, pornography with this subject matter is "the second most popular heterosexual interest on English-language search engines."

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