What do you think of this: Debunking the war on men

HitlersCow · 2013-12-19T18:15:38+00:00

I think it's bullshit.

My ex has tried to have me jailed 5 times, 3 of which she used my son to make the claim against me.

All child abuse charges were categorized as unfounded.

Nothing has happened to my ex as a result of these false charges. She has never received so much as a whisper by a judge or anyone for that matter telling her not to continue do so. What she get was custody of the children and possession of the marital home + $1000 a month in support payments.

Clauderoughly · 2013-12-19T20:07:12+00:00

Jill Filipovic is a regular columnist for the Guardian's Comment is free and a blogger at Feministe. She holds a JD and BA from New York University

http://www.theguardian.com/profile/jill-filipovic

Fat American feminist. Should be ignored.

Mitchell78 · 2013-12-19T18:40:23+00:00

That piece is full of feminist lies and bullshit.

redpilldude · 2013-12-19T20:05:44+00:00

It is a great time to be an American dad. Never in our nation’s history has it been so socially accepted, and even encouraged, for men to be involved, emotionally available and committed fathers.... These gains are largely to the credit of the feminist movement, including the activists who shook up our assumptions about appropriate gender roles, the women who encouraged men to participate more fully in the home and the men who chose to be more active fathers and partners.

WTF? Feminists are the ones who oppose changes to family court laws and alimony laws. Feminists oppose making paternity tests mandatory after child birth. Feminists support affirmative action laws which discriminate against men in the work force. Feminists preach Patriarchy and rape culture. Feminists use inaccurate statistics to create laws that discriminate against men (such as the wage gap statistics and statistics which claim that men commit the vast majority of domestic violence.)

Under current child support and family court laws, a wife could have another man's child, file for divorce, keep the house in the divorce, get full custody of the kids, be awarded lifetime alimony, and be awarded child support for the illegitimate child (because the husband acted in a fatherly way). And Feminists support all of these laws.

No, the improvement in father's rights is due to the Men's Rights Movement, not Feminism.

Bad_day_today · 2013-12-19T17:50:23+00:00

This seemed relevant here:

While equality is not a simple equation wherein one group loses as another gains, it is true that as women make political, economic and social advances, many men see their own long-standing presumptions of power and dominance challenged. The things to which they believe they were entitled — whether those are jobs, college admissions spots or traditionally all-male social and professional networks — now have more people competing for them. Heterosexual men can no longer rely on unpaid female labor, in the form of a doting wife, at home. They can no longer simply bring home a paycheck and be considered a good dad and partner.

HitlersCow · 2013-12-21T06:23:20+00:00

their stated ideals — that fathers have rights to their children and courts make fair custody decisions — sound harmless or even positive on their face, FRAs are not looking for equality; they are promoting a regressive, starkly patriarchal ideologyFRAs are overwhelmingly white and male, and their central belief is that men are the victims not only of feminism but of an entire society that pampers women and is prejudiced against men. They claim that the family court system is biased in favor of women; that women routinely make up claims of domestic violence and child sexual abuse in order to win custody battles; that fathers are more fit parents than mothers; and that American men are systematically stripped of their fatherhood rights by hyperpowerful feminists. And they are angry.

So let me get this straight.

You're saying these men are lying about their goals, yet offer no contrary evidence
You've categorized and generalized based on race and sex
You're not refuting any of the points listed - accepting some as fact to fuel other stawman arguments
You're saying some are angry for having the cards stacked against them. (Well no shit Sherlock)

I could go on all day address these arguments/hamstering in the article...but I think I'd be preaching to the choir.

rebuildingMyself · 2013-12-21T10:38:16+00:00

Aljazeera really needs to shy away from this kind of crap and focus on the real news. Their international news is spot on, but I suppose they have to tard it up to compete with the US news outlets with this kind of feminist ego-stroking crap.

Title	What do you think of this: Debunking the war on men
Author	Bad_day_today
Upvotes	19
Comments	14
Date	December 19, 2013 5:43 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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