Woman: " I was just wondering if any of you nice guys can sort of switch that nice guy part off and just throw down when the mood strikes" /r/AskMen XPost

VZPurp · 2013-07-08T23:49:23+00:00

The "nice guy" is the way he is because of everything he's been told his whole life like:

how to approach women without scaring them or else risk jail time
how to talk to women without offending them
how to have sex with women without unknowingly "raping" them (like when a girl is actively trying to have sex with you but saying "no" in her head) or else risk jail time
how to get explicit consent in every possible way ("may I kiss you", "do you want to have sex", "are you ok with me doing this") or else risk jail time
how to interact with a woman and respect her by not being overtly sexual/too aggressive or else risk jail time
making sure she's comfortable at all times and not being too rough with her
be a "gentlemen" or else be labeled a creep

Then people wonder why he can't just suddenly be the aggressive guy that just rips off a girls clothes, takes what he wants, and dominates her.

mutualaid · 2013-07-09T01:32:03+00:00

Sometimes, you just want the guy you're dating to just grab you and take you, etc. It's what I like to call "throw down".

Oh look, another woman craving to be dominated and taken without a word of consent. Totes misogyny and rape culture right smurfs?

luxury_banana · 2013-07-09T02:00:23+00:00

"Women want fried ice." -old Arab proverb

What's going on here is really they want men to mind read them.

MartialWay · 2013-07-09T03:19:01+00:00

One guy was trying to convince her that he could take her forcefully because "Nice guy here. I respond very well to instructions and body language."

GayLubeOil · 2013-07-09T01:48:56+00:00

Nice Guys will not throw down because feminists told them that all spontaneous sex is rape if there is not explicit verbal consent at every point of escalation.

johnsmith66 · 2013-07-09T02:29:53+00:00

I found this gem:

As a "nice guy" let me assure you that I can lay pipe if that's what you want. But you've got to let me know, because I'm not going to default to that.

LOL. She didn't say that she wanted you to "lay pipe." She said that she wanted you to take her. If you require her permission, then you aren't taking her. You're just waiting for her to initiate. That isn't passionate.

iKill_eu · 2013-07-08T23:18:47+00:00

spoiler alert: no

scottishredpill · 2013-07-09T01:21:48+00:00

This is something I never understand, do people not experiment when they have sex? Do they not talk?

I know I do, hell, girl friends over the years have told me how rough and dirty they like sex. When I'm seeing a girl and I'm horny, I will pick her up and tell her we're getting naked

DaddyMonster · 2013-07-09T12:18:02+00:00

Lots of missing the point there. She doesn't want a guy who is dominant in bed for her sake after she asks him to be dominant. She wants a guy who is dominant in bed because she is so sexy that he can't resist fucking the hell out of her.

JimmyTheIntern · 2013-07-09T15:53:39+00:00

If she tells him what she likes, then it just becomes about him satisfying her needs which is exactly what she doesn't want. The whole reason she wants him to just go primal and throw her around a bit is because that's about him taking control, being manly, satisfying his needs, and taking what HE wants, which then in turn makes her feel like a woman.

Nailed it!

http://www.reddit.com/r/AskMen/comments/1hvi9y/can_nice_guys_throw_down/cayk7cm

INomYou · 2013-07-09T15:58:52+00:00

Holy shit.That reads like an Abbott & Costello routine.

[deleted] · 2013-07-09T16:24:16+00:00

When I was 18 I was very lucky to have known one particular girl. She told me things like "I want to be your slave" "use your little fucktoy" and my personal favorite "I don't think there is anything you could do to me that I wouldn't enjoy."

She was 26 and I was 18, I was fresh out of high school, raised in jesus camps, it was a shock. It was my first friend with benefits and I thought that all sex was supposed to be like that. Then I had a long term girlfriend who protested and cried when I went crazy with her and that just fucked me up and I didn't know what the hell to do anymore, so sex became a really boring missionary experience.

But yeah, if the woman wasn't afraid of talking dirty, I think there are many things she could say to a dude that would get him to throw down that aren't explicit instructions. Or you know, show up half naked and wearing a collar, or kneel in that "I submit" pose, if that doesn't get even the nicest of warm blooded males throwing down then I dunno.

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