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When is it okay to physically defend myself

by Andgelyo | May 25, 2019 | askTRP


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I’ve always wanted to know the correct answer to this. Been watching videos of men being harassed on the train by other people (women included) and wanted to know the red pill take on this.

I live close to NYC and try to avoid taking public transportation and drive or walk when I can. However, let’s say I’m being verbally harassed by someone on the train or bus.

Situation A: verbal harassment only

Situation B: verbal harassment and physical confrontation

What legal actions can I take? If a person (male or female) touches me can I swing at them?

What if a female takes a swing at me? To be honest, I’m not afraid to punch a hoe in the mouth but given how we are demonized for everything we do I don’t want to land in jail for defending myself.


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Title When is it okay to physically defend myself
Author Andgelyo
Upvotes 8
Comments 21
Date 25 May 2019 03:24 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–][deleted] 28 points29 points  (0 children) | Copy

If a woman takes a swing at you in public you should be able to handle her without violence, laugh at her anger, let other people record her freakout/meltdown and post it on reddit and social media - rather than let them record the evidence for the court system to eat you up, ruin your life and shit you out.

Remember that to a woman, public humiliation in front of her peer group is suicide fuel whereas bruises are the proud badge of victimhood.

[–]1900_year_old_vampire12 points13 points  (5 children) | Copy

you'll go to jail bud. ive been to jail, you dont want to go there. keep your hands to yourself. women cant hurt you, theyre weak. laugh, mock, record, verbally abuse, call the cops, full sprint run in the other direction.. anything but throwing hands

[–]Andgelyo[S] 3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy

So you’re saying if a women smacks me in the face, i can’t slap the soul out of her like 8ball did? I’m in the camp of “act like a man, get treated like a man”

[–]1900_year_old_vampire9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

im in the camp of "dont give anyone a reason to take you to jail". my pride will survive, and i care far more about myself than i care about punishing any woman for being a bitch. aint worth it, not even close. the 1 and only exception here is actual self defense. like, your life is in jeopardy. this doesnt include getting smacked/punched

[–]RisingUpAgain1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’m in the camp too lol

[–]FreedomEpiphany2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You should look into self introspection and seriously make yourself accountable for your flaws.

In a situation where 95 percent of the actions are taken by you, you are responsible for the outcome.

[–]umizumiz1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm in the camp of "there's no way being slapped by a woman should cause you to literally enter fight or flight mode".

You shouldn't even still be bothering with the situation long before she swings.

Be a hero, and deescalate and let everybody else get back to their phones or escalate and find out later that nobody recorded shit until you smacked her.

[–]Red_Pill_Brotherhood3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Unless you are in serious physical danger, don't do anything. It just creates drama, cops being called, and you possibly being on the news for hitting a woman(even if you hit her back the media will portray you as the monster).

[–]RisingUpAgain2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

I’m not sure there is any situation where flat out punching a girl in the face is going to come off as “okay,” just check that vid of the college basketball? Player decking the girl in the face when she kept harassing him.

Me personally I’m going to try to deescalate conflict if I can and I wouldn’t swing until someone took a swing at me, if for legal consequences than anything else.

I dunno, do you generally get verbally harassed by strangers? I haven’t found that to happen much to me but I am also a large man.

[–]truthbomb9992 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Google Emily Rand or NYC subway slap soul. In both those situations the women were the physical aggressors as in hitting first and were hit back and it was deemed self defense.

You generally can't punch anyone for just verbal harassment

[–]Andgelyo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Nah, I don’t get verbally harassed too often. Used to take the train when I was younger but now that me and this girl I am dating visit NYC often I’m trying to plan ahead

[–]truthbomb9991 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Look at your state laws, but generally serious injury or death type situations are where I'll mostly go there. Wounded pride doesn't count, so I'll walk away from verbal harassment.

Physical confrontation depends on how physical, but if ANYONE swings at me, I'm not opposed to taking action to stop the threat. Women can be dangerous too and don't get a pass from self defense.

I don't live in NYC and live in Texas and pack heat regularly, so I'm generally not interested in explaining why there is a dead body in my near vicinity, so keep in mind proportion and reasonableness.

[–]CharlesChadworth1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Saw a video of a man defending himself against a woman a while back with him laughing until she landed a hit to his face. He slapped her back in defence.

Then I started reading the comments and jesus christ it make me gag with the amount of cuck (white knight) men defending her. Saying shit like how she is a woman and not a threat to him. He should have not hit her etc.

I would take my phone out and record the meltdown. If she hits you just use that against her for evidence.

[–]Classy_Amir1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Seriously, exercise your 2nd amendment right. Get a handgun, conceal carry. Problem solved. If it comes to it, defend your life. But I'd talk to a lawyer before doing all this so I'd know how far they have to take it so you can shoot them.


[–]W_O_M_B_A_T0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This is easy.

Do it when the potential consequences of jail+ prison record, or hospital with traumatic brain injury, or the morgue, becomes an acceptable tradeoff.

At the very least you're going to have an intense and unpleasant conversation with the police later.

Otherwise, voting with your two feet and walking away costs nothing. Nobody cares if a roided out hothead or angry bitch thinks you're a pussy or an easy target, or calls you a few names. Straighten your back and ignore a few meaningless words. The social retard will get themselves in jail sooner or later.

Remember that hotheads won't instigate something unless they're confident they know something you don't, that gives them the advantage. So you should never consider playing their game. Women in bars and clubs know that every white knight in the place will jump you if gain the upper hand, and the police will arrest you 19/20.

[–]throwawayycheyeah0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Life isnt fair get over it. If she swings on you and you strike her back you are going to be made into the bad guy and probably land in jail. Women WANT to be hit back because they can play the victim.

If some woman starts getting physical with you just pull out your phone and start filming her.

If she has a weapon and is legitimately trying to end your life then sure live out your weird fantasy of fighting a woman I guess.

It seems like you have some deep rooted mental problems though honestly.

[–]Andgelyo[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

If a person tries to threaten me, male or female, young or old, I’m going to retaliate. I don’t give a shit if it’s a 15 year old boy, you come at me and threaten my life, I have a right to defend it. This is what I’m getting at. Females don’t get the pass on this shit.

[–]Bruchibre0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Do you have a fantasy of hitting a woman, creepo? If a woman swings at you, parry it will hurt her, or grab her hand and squeeze a bit hard she'll feel the pain, enough to remind her that you could kill her with one hand.

[–]Andgelyo[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I take it you haven’t seen the animals that ride the path station, buddy? No, I don’t have a fantasy of hitting a woman, but if one of them swung at me, expecting me to not do anything, then they’re sadly mistaken

Go on YouTube and search up “women gets the soul slapped out of her”

[–]umizumiz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Well, that's probably legal and all but you can only respond in kind with equal and appropriate force and then immediately deescalate the altercation.

One harsh soul smack, fine. A left right combo gut punch will be seen as over aggressing and an attempt to escalate the violence instead of protecting your safety and deescalating before notifying authorities or getting the fuck out of there. lol

So yeah, I guess I'd smack a physically bigger woman if I was cornered in a traincar and had to smack her to make her move out of the aisle so I could leave... Maybe? You could always prolly just smack her hand away and grab her and spin her around and put her on the ground and walk off tho...

That'd actually be a little cooler imo, like a Subway superhero. Protecting the passengers but sworn an oath of semi non violence hahaha

[–]RossDDMarshalls-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't feel the need to defend myself from children. If there's a weapon and you're in actual danger, then do what you gotta do, but really the only reason to punch a bitch is because you want to punch a bitch. Women pose no real physical threat.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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