Inquiry from a girl

Demonspawn · 2014-10-31T13:46:36+00:00

Depends on how you define "worth".

Will a guy have sex with a woman who's had a lot of partners? Of course.

Will a guy commit to a woman who's had a lot of partners? No.

Why? Because multiple studies have shown there's a inverse relation between the number of partners a woman has had previously and the success of her long term relationships. The more partners she has had, the less likely she is to stay in a long term relationship.

So why should a man take a poor risk when better risks are available?

mister_slfdest · 2014-10-31T13:51:41+00:00

You're wrong in your assessment that a man's worth is based on how many notches he has in his belt, or that the RP sub perpetuates that idea.

Being able to fuck high quality and/or high quantity of women is one of many perks of a man who makes a life for himself, living and leading a life of his own, being confident and creating a place for himself in the world, independent of women's rules and critiques. The worth comes from himself, not from others, not from trophies and especially not from women.

tombreck2 · 2014-10-31T13:48:34+00:00

It's laughably easy for a girl to get laid. Go sit down at a bar and men will hit on you all night no matter what you look like.

For a man to get laid he has to be socially savvy, well put together, charming and better than the competition around him.

RedPillSafe · 2014-10-31T15:09:42+00:00

In a "perfect world" a woman could have a million sex partners and as long as there was no STD she would be okay.

But our observation on the Red Pill is that as the body count increases it alters the woman's perception of herself and she becomes MORE entitled rather than less. (more egocentric)

This is bizarre.

Had it been the case that women were unaffected by body count and remained like a virgin afterwards we would not have a problem.

Women who experience the "Alpha Male" tend to become "Alpha Widows" and there is even evidence that some small alterations take place in the woman's DNA as sperm from different men enter her system. (that's a recently discovered scientific thing)

The ideal long term mate is a young virgin. (18)

For the cock carousel... sure... body counts don't matter because no one will stay with these women.

I'm 53 years old and have seen women go from hot and desired 20 somethings to post wall 30 somethings all the way to 50 something sad and lonely graying Feminists. It's very sad. These women get old before they know it and by the time they realize what they did wrong it's too late.

Save yourself a lot of sadness and find a good Red Pill stoic rock of a man and settle down. You will thank me for the advice.

LennyHayek · 2014-10-31T13:45:20+00:00

http://youtu.be/pbvrGiL_s70

tracer123 · 2014-10-31T15:40:05+00:00

Women and men have different biological imperatives so any comparison between the two should not be judged by the same metrics whatsoever.

gideonrakthor · 2014-10-31T14:22:20+00:00

I agree, sex is a significant determinant of many principles within RP, however, I don't understand the purpose of your post.

Why don't you enjoy it? This subreddit is/was not meant for "enjoyment" by any means TBH. You state in your OP that you "honestly, don't get it."

Are you confused as to why this sex theme exists, or do you simply think sex counts are insignificant? If so, please explain your viewpoint and the discussion can begin.

This post has a "prove me" attitude and is not generally condoned as per the posting rules.

CptDefB · 2014-10-31T15:19:29+00:00

Quick time.

We are not the same. Okay? The idea that, "If A is good for you, then A is good for me." does not apply to this subject.

Equality is applied "whenever women feel good about it", and similarly, instincts are only valid "whenever women feel good about it" (if they don't, they'll talk themselves into it soon enough (self) or whine, cry and complain until the problem goes away (other)).

Women are turned on by a guy who can get other girls. You may have seen this referred to as preselection. Men do not operate on that platform.

We are not the same. Okay?

"If A is good for you, then A is good for me." does not apply to this subject.

edit: That sounds like a short sighted answer, yeah? So let's roleplay red pill (RPRP!). If society told you that you need to become a sewer system technician, because we're all the same and the field is excessively dominated by men... how do you think this would go over?

We are not the same. It's fine when it benefits you, but you also have to accept the times it doesn't benefit you. Just as men do. Or, you can whine, cry and complain until you get your way... but I suppose that only serves to out the weak among us... and we get that way, simply for loving you as you are. Aint that a bitch? Thanks brain chemicals.

MasterBaiterX · 2014-10-31T15:42:55+00:00

This isn't really something broad and all encompassing. Everyone has their reasons for their preference.

To demand scientific studies like you're doing in the comments is kind of silly, although there are studies on this which have been posted on this subreddit and others. Studies that as has been said show a link in promiscuity to lack of stability in long term relationships.

However, personally, I find that the whole lock key thing is not silly and shouldn't be so easily dismissed.

It is so incredibly easy for a woman to get laid, all she has to do is be average looking and above. Even less than average looking chicks can get laid way more than an average dude.

Women have every right to do as they please, but why should I as a man want to date someone who fucks anyone that looks at them sideways.

Let me explain why, I personally tend to look at things from an evolutionary stand point; by the rules of our species it's hard for men to get laid, men have to be the best version of themselves they can be to have their pick of the women, and even then you can't have them all. The reason for this is because the majority of women aren't just fucking everyone, they're choosy, they're picky, and that is normal in our species.

Females are the sexual selectors in our species, men are trying to fuck everything they can, some men are bettering themselves to improve their chances at passing on their genes, other men simply settle for what the can get. But in all cases women are the ones who choose, not men. This has to do with the fact that a man can father potentially hundreds of kids in a year with hundreds of women if he wants. Like a lot of historical figures have.

A woman however has that one chance yearly, she has to pick the absolute best, it's how our species evolved. Even today in the modern world with contraception, the lust we feel, the desire to have sex is still about procreation. Our bodies can't tell the difference, our bodies and instinct don't get the concept of contraception. To us every single sexual encounter, pill or condom, is a try at conception.

To me, it seems like the female is just indulging in impulsive behaviour, and taking advantage of a biological reality. The biological reality being that any man will stick his dick into her if she just opens up. It would be like having a giant thing of ice cream in front of you, and wolfing it down just because you can.

Which brings me to the final point. WHY. Why is she not like most women, choosy, picky, selecting the best. Why has she fucked like 60 dudes in the past couple years in a series of one night stands (like so many women nowadays have). There has to be a psychological reason for it, and in my opinion none of them can be good. I see insecurity, looking for validation from men, lack of a fathers love, impulsive behaviour, a lack of emotional attachment to sex(not necessarily a bad thing, but in my personal preference I want my women to be emotionally invested in sex).

That's my opinion in the matter, I also take into account the studies, but more than that I ask myself why is this female not like the rest. Why does she fuck everyone and everything, is she insecure? Is she making up for something? Why is she so impulsive and indulgent? That's all.

Do note, I mean this in a LTR kind of way. I don't judge the woman if she's just a random, if I'm going to be one of the 60 whatever, just wrap it up and go for it. But to date/marry someone like that is a different story.

SgtTRP · 2014-10-31T14:19:10+00:00

From THE THREE R’S: ROMANTICISATION, REALISATION & RESPONSIBILITY

It is a well-established maxim throughout the manosphere that the more partners a woman has had, the less capable she is of bonding romantically to any future partner. This is great if you want casual sex but it’s bad if you actually want to be in love/start a family. A woman who’s had many dicks and relationships no matter what she rationalises or desires is near incapable of pair bonding. These women are often bitter, they feel owed something from their chain of suitors as a symptom of their latent narcissism and view men collectively as an arbitrary segment of the population that can be exploited for self-gain as a result.

Women offer their sexuality in exchange of commitment. That doesn't mean they don't enjoy it. But it's a valuable asset for them, so why not get compensated.

Commitment is about security. Security you had is of no value. Only security you have has value.

Sexuality is momentary. You had sex, it's done. You can forget about it. You can reminisce about it. It doesn't matter.

That's why women get bitter as they change partners. If their security needs were met, they wouldn't change partners. TRP is good for women, because an alpha of sufficient caliber can get these needs met, and search for additional cocks would be unnecessary.

Women are after all genetically programmed for K strategy. Not r strategy like men. (This doesn't conflict with their hypergamy.)

niggertron9000 · 2014-10-31T14:21:01+00:00

I don't see the worth as how many people you've had sex with but more towards the concept of SMV, either you're high SMV and ppl are open to be influenced by you or you're low SMV and ppl are repelled by you.

In and by itself the concept of a women's worth being inversely proportional to how many times she's jumped on the CC reeks of insecurity and stems from the old way of thinking about relationships, i.e. a man agrees to commit to a woman to take 'care' of her for her loyalty.

Truth is, a really hot woman will have jumped on a ton of dicks by the time she's 30, that's the way life is. That's the normal. As a dude you can be either one of the dicks she jumped on during her prime knowing full well what you're getting yourself into or you can play the "captain save a 'ho" role and be all butthurt because she isn't 'virginally pure'. Honestly, the pain I sense in some posts has to come from the inner struggle that those guys might be in by still wanting a relationship and liking to be 'vulnerable' next to women juxtaposed to the truth that women despise weakness and will upgrade to a better 'party' on the slightest chance.

At the end of the day I think as dudes we have to remember that love flows downward, not upwards, and that we shouldn't get into any situation we're not willing to walk out of in 30 secs or less.

theozoph · 2014-10-31T14:33:17+00:00

A women sexual strategy is dependent on her biology. Because her reproductive potential is limited, and the physical toll of reproduction higher, a woman's optimum sexual strategy is to select a high-quality, high-value male partner and gain his commitment to raise his children.

A woman who's had a large number of partners advertises that she could never gain a man's commitment. All those men she's selected for their high value (at least in her eyes) couldn't find a reason to continue a relationship beyond sex with her. She's basically advertising her own low value.

The problem is that her next best choice is to continue to mate with high value males while gaining the commitment of a low value one. This creates a real risk of paternal fraud for beta males, or at least of cuckholding and unstable relationship as she continues to desire high value partners while settling for a beta's support.

Therefore, on a risk-assessment scale, high-numbers women are unstable partners, and just by taking them as LTR a man advertises his own lack of options, discernment, sexual value and self-respect.

Remember that all this is subconscious assessment and animal instinct. A slut gaining a beta's commitment might think "Yeah! Score!", but unconsciously she rates him against her previous conquests and starts resenting him. She might not understand why she's less sexually aroused by Beta Bill than she was by Chad Quarterback, even though Bill worships her while Chad was a "jerk", but that's how it is.

Lesson for us : be Chad, and don't waste your time on sluts.

Title	Inquiry from a girl
Author	boxxyuc
Upvotes	0
Comments	40
Date	October 31, 2014 1:38 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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