Why you need frame

bsutansalt · 2019-07-26T11:38:09+00:00

It was very obvious during the interaction however that she very much believed what she was saying and I did not give a shit at all and told her “If you want to end things, it’s your life, you’re free to do so.”

And that's where you went wrong. Too wordy and takes away the mystery. Should have let her suffer the consequences and let her hamster spin as she tries to figure out wtf just happened when you (briefly) flipped the script. LET HER CHASE for a while, then you reward it with your attention.

retardedwhiteknight · 2019-07-22T07:04:52+00:00

what the fuck is goodbye hug

bouncypoo · 2019-07-22T06:17:41+00:00

you over did it with the " WHAT DO YOU EXPECT SOMETHING? LIKE FOR ME TO BE GOING CRAZY RIGHT NOW." I personally would have ignored her and hit her up at my convenience, which would have been never or months later if I'm in a drought. She has shown her character.

BobbyPeru · 2019-07-22T07:08:23+00:00

This is less about frame and more about a RP tenent I’ve been repeating a lot on here lately. It’s my experience and belief, but it also aligns with the side bar readings.

We’ll call it Bobby P’s iron rule #1

It’s nearly impossible for a woman to give up on a man who truly DNGAF and has options.

I first experienced it in my marriage on the brink of divorce, and I’ve witnessed it countless times since then (including this post).

A condensed version of my story on the tenent:

Last year, around mid-April, my. Wife and I were fighting daily, and things got really bad. A big part of it was my lack of frame, but I won’t go into this too much. So, we decided to call it quits just shy of 10 years. It was truly mutual.

A few weeks went by, and we were physically separated, and we talked for maybe a total of 10 minutes a week, tops. One day, I decided to send her a naughty pic, and I tell her my room number of my hotel. I tell her I’m horny and she “gets first dibs” for that night. I did have a few options.

At first, she comes across as super pissed, and I remind her it was mutual that we were going to split, and this was purely physical. So, guess what , she came by and we fucked a couple times. Not only did I NGAF, but now she knew I already had other options, making me even more attractive to her.

Long story short, her attitude towards me completely changed, and we ended up staying together. We hit our 10 yr anniversary in Oct, and things are better than ever. My frame is dramatically stronger, I put on 10 pounds of muscle on TRT (I’m 50), and she is as respectful towards me as she was in the beginning. Oh, and sex is on demand - we have sex 4-7 times a week, which is about as much as I can handle at my age.

i want to make it clear, I became me best version for me, not for her or the marriage

She has lost 30+ pounds, and men half her age consistently try to hit on her. She gives them very little IOI back (while I’m there anyway). We were at a nice restaurant a week ago, and a good looking dude about half her age was competitive trying to fuck her using his best game. He thought we weren’t together because we had separate checks (work related reasons). But, once she started Brag to him about me and he realized we were married, he quickly backed off. I found it humorous this dude was trying to put the moves on her- I never even mentioned it to her that night or since then. Old blue pill me would have been so insecure, I would have flipped from jealousy and blamed it all on her. New red pill me didn’t feel threatened, and I railed her when we got back to the room because it kinda turned me on that young guys still lust over my wife

I also have women hitting on me in front of her, but that’s a whole other story. She doesn’t seem to mind much because it’s expected that high quality men get hit on, just like it’s expected beautiful women like my wife get hit on.

So, the point... being attractive physically and having strong frame will make plates and/or LTR’s realize you have options (it’s assumed), and having a DNGAF attitude is very attractive. The 2 tend to go hand in hand.

bayareaengineer2019 · 2019-07-22T16:14:27+00:00

This is TRP beginner level. Classic sh*t test on her part. The whole hug thing is an attempt to get you to be apologetic and remorseful so she can establish dominance. Good job on not budging.

blueablaze · 2019-07-22T05:52:17+00:00

"Having multiple options" is a must while dealing with women.

chaizus · 2019-07-22T08:58:31+00:00

yea way to maintain that abundance mentality lol.

Damn she sounds neurotic af, idk if i'd be worth keeping her around. At least I wouldn't based on how she reacted, but I'd just be aloof after that situation.

the_Milkweed · 2019-07-22T15:10:46+00:00

This was a shit test, and not even a good one. She sounds psycho and I would be very wary of continuing much further with this one. As you said yourself, she believed in that crazy. A woman like this is easily impressionable and more than likely highly insecure, this is the type of woman that will imagine her way into a rape case. Tread lighty

TheColdColdAbyss · 2019-07-22T05:24:54+00:00

The more secure and independent you are, the more attractive you are too women, yes.

JackNapier368 · 2019-07-23T07:03:04+00:00

Lol, had the same thing last week. Seriously, where do they get the nerve to even try this? Do they really think they're the only girl out there? GTFO. You want to break-up? Your loss baby. Within 5 minutes my plate texted me stupid songs about being sorry. Couple of days after she's being a bitch again. Just try me.

INNASKILLZ2K18 · 2019-07-22T09:06:09+00:00

Lmao. Classic example.

So many guys would apologise, grovel, promise to hug her. Put HER feeling above your own.

The fact of the matter is, you did nothing wrong. You didn't hug her when you left?? Jesus Christ, talk about needy and low self-esteem.

IF it were the other way around and a guy said 'Oh, I'm really hurt, you didn't hug me when I left', she would throw up in her mouth and slowly ghost him.

The fact is she felt bad. It's pretty retarded to feel bad. She tried to blame YOU for her childish emotions. You didn't allow the 'assignment of the blame'.

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McVaghunter · 2019-07-22T14:16:17+00:00

That's a very good game for only 3 weeks. If you wanna take your game to the next level, ask yourself, that time you spent at the beach "going wild", would you rather have spent it having sex with her? Was that "enjoyable experience" a genuine choice? If not then next time isolate, apply kino, turn the conversation sexual and escalate... Use your abundance to try and get laid during the first date, that's the next level of the game. After that there's the pro mode; getting laid without going on a first date. But that's for later on.

[deleted] · 2019-07-23T19:12:44+00:00

Remembers me about something I experienced back when I didn't know TRP. I got really needy and a little pissed at this one girl who refused to meet up for the first time because we had seen eachother four times the week before. She then send me we shouldn't sleep together anymore. I responded with: "Ok, if that's what you want." and left it at that. Not even 3 minutes later she said she wanted to talk about it and soon. The fact that I was okey with what she said made her hamster spin so hard that she wanted to see me right away. If I had said: "Nonono, I want you," it would have been game over.

Title	Why you need frame
Author	justlibertarian
Upvotes	215
Comments	21
Date	July 22, 2019 4:03 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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