finally put my foot down with gf. is this a normal reaction?

Johnny_Fake-Name · 2014-12-06T16:21:54+00:00

It's an unfortunate fact, but after swallowing the pill if you're in a relationship, the relationship will fall apart. Here's why:

She's been used to having you as her beta-bitch. So when you go against that set role she has for you, she rebels against it. Why? Because it means that she's losing her hold over you and the relationship. Hence the very overt attention-grabs and shit tests.

Best thing to do is continue the alpha-ness and observe her for another week or so. If she continues to behave badly then dump her ass. There's about a 90% chance that your relationship will end soon, and probably not in a pretty fashion. Continue your path to alpha. She isn't part of it.

BluepillProfessor · 2014-12-06T16:30:38+00:00

Please with the neeeext advice. Dude didn't ask that question and the advice is wrong anyway. Dump a girl for acting like a girl makes no sense.

Yes this is a typical Shit Test and yes you responded properly. Keep it up, don't be phased by her emotional blackmail and games. Go have a filling life that does not depend on a woman. She can come along with your life if she wants to behave but if not then you are moving ahead without her and she is not invited.

Next time she turns you down for sex tell her (with complete control before you leave your home to meet some friends at the bar): "Way to make me feel important." She will probably blow up your phone and screw the shit out of you when you get back- if you hold frame and you are not doing this out of spite but because you really do have better things to do than hang around your house waiting for your GF to act like a GF.

Forward!

2comment · 2014-12-06T16:31:33+00:00

All interaction, all relationships with people is a form of continual negotiations of one sort or another. You've essentially reopened negotiations after years with her on the terms of the relationship, what she thought was a done deal signalled by the start of the low sex period. Which means you and whatever you provide were being taken for granted. When people have to adjust their routine, a lot of them get defensive/pissy about it. They can either stay that way, hoping to pressure you back to whatever role you were providing them, or they can adjust to it and bring back more to the table in turn.

You just have to hold frame and be willing to dump her if it comes to that. Your job isn't to make her feel important, that's what leads to leads to relationship complacency and eventually self-important nagging wives to begin with.

redkick · 2014-12-06T16:43:54+00:00

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Wolf_A · 2014-12-06T16:37:40+00:00

Seems like she had put a lot of work on you cultivating those beta traits and is angry because "how dare this beta turn into an alpha". If you really think she is a good LTR material then you have to do some work on naturally embodying 'no fucks given' attitude to dismiss her shit tests in the long run. You aren't doing bad but you still need to get to a place where you take control of the situation like if she is giving weak excuses to not hang out with you then ignore her until you meet and withhold your affection while being normal. Get to the issue only if she asks what's going on and call her out on how she is being childish and that you'll not put up with that. That is punishing bad behavior and you are holding your frame. But don't forget to also reward if she is falling in line.

If she isn't worth all that time then demote and try convert her into a plate or just hard next her.

InSearchofOMG · 2014-12-06T18:02:51+00:00

Keep it up bro. By not feeding into her shit test, you're slowly building the dread. She'll eventually think you might bail due to your detachment, and act right.

Pubic_Lice · 2014-12-06T16:39:53+00:00

Pretty much what everyone else has said. So long as you don't overdo it all at once, she might change, but its probably not worth the effort. Most likely this relationship is down the drain, at least temporarily.

seeing-red- · 2014-12-06T16:41:56+00:00

LOL at "way to make me feel important", that doesn't even make any fucking sense because she blew you off first!!

Not that you should point that out, but yeah, your relationship will be rocky for a little while. Then it will either get better or it will need to end.

Have you noticed any signs that your new behavior is working, other than increased shit tests?

FunAndFreedom · 2014-12-06T17:54:01+00:00

Not only are you taking the red pill, but you're making her take it against her will, this reaction is entirely predictable. Have you ever tried giving a 4 year old cough medicine? It's the same thing. Fight fight fight, then finally submission.

In the past 4 years what has happened to your respective SMV's?

If you have stayed in shape and progressed in your career, yours is much higher while 4 years means she is 4 years closer to hitting the wall. She is in no place to negotiate. What's she going to do, date around for 2-3 years and pick up a BB in her late 20's early 30's? You have the leverage here.

Your alternative is to stay in a sexless relationship that will likely end in misery or divorce. Talk to a divorce attorney one time and pay him $150 for an hour of his stories if you doubt that being alpha is preferable to being a submissive beta.

Hatorader · 2014-12-06T18:41:40+00:00

Fuck other girls until you either break up or she becomes your subordinate.

mildbuzz · 2014-12-06T16:00:10+00:00

you should probably dump that bitch.

Title	finally put my foot down with gf. is this a normal reaction?
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Date	December 6, 2014 3:54 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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