The Difference Between Game And The Red Pill

NAmember81 · 2014-12-25T09:45:03+00:00

Seems like PUA advice is OK for short term success. (One night stands) But RP is for long term success through understanding the true nature of relationships.

beerthroway · 2014-12-25T15:38:44+00:00

Rollo said in The Rational Male that early game was like giving dynamite to children. Some got these beautiful 9s and 10s but ruined their lives because they didn't understand RP truths like hypergamy and how relationships work. They end up assuming the girl's frame and then all is lost.

RP is more than just the pill that wakes you up from the Matrix. It also teaches you all those different forms of (relationship) martial arts, gives you goggles (see their deception), a shield (understanding their immaturity) and an "attraction gun" (abundance/self improvement). RP is so massively evolved game, that priorities have changed to shit that actually matters.

cocaine_face · 2014-12-25T18:43:02+00:00

The Redpill really is the outgrowth of Game.

It explains it, and once I learned about the Redpill, all the little inconsistencies and contradictions I had found disappeared. Taking a feminized perspective (the average person's viewpoint), and strapping PUA on top of it will certainly help someone, but it is, as another commenter posted, much like giving kids dynamite.

My last oneitis wasn't before I learned of PUA - it was after I had already gotten decent with women. I, like many men, regressed. The Redpill inoculates against that to some extent. It also shows that you should never use logic with a woman - I assumed, like I assume many guys do, that girls, "play fair", or negotiate in good faith once you get into a relationship. The Redpill essentially says, "girls never play fair, and if you want to win, you must not either". That's a hard worldview for many, even many who have learned PUA to take, but in the long run this stuff is better.

FunAndFreedom · 2014-12-26T00:57:46+00:00

Learning game without understanding the red pill is dangerous. Sure you get good at initial attraction and spinning plates, but then one of your plates gets their claws in and you can't emotionally deal with it. There's even a chapter in Neil Strauss' book where his mentor "Mystery" has a breakdown from a chick breaking his heart.

Guys fall in love with their game but don't realize without TRP they are taking a fast track to beta buck world.

oldredder · 2014-12-25T19:04:25+00:00

PUA stuff doesn't go all the way, you can use it to kiss-close a girl at the club, or number-close.. But TRP and other inner game knowledge is necessary for building a relationship that can last.

If you build a lean-to, you'll have shelter for the night. If you build a house, you'll have shelter (nearly) forever. It takes time, intelligence, patience, determination and grit to build a lean-to or any other type of temporary shelter, but it's necessary to increase those traits exponentially in order to build a stable life-long shelter.

oldredder · 2014-12-26T02:30:01+00:00

bwaahhhhh.

Viewing 'red pill', an exit from the Matrix itself makes sense, but as a child of PUA is so far off the mark it's absurd.

subreddit 'redpill' is just a smaller subset of a larger exit from the total matrix of fraud, lies & brainwashing.

It's everything from how you don't keep yourself fit, don't see yourself in society or as a man as you need to for your own good, don't see the wool pulled over your eyes in finance, feminism, exploitation by gender of men in current society... to see this as the 'child' or as a derivative of PUA is... just so much no.

'game' is so much more the return to what a man always used to be, slightly adapted in various societies/countries where feminism has corrupted a woman from birth to a wrong-headed way for a woman to live her life despite her instincts for what she should be, and what she needs to be and what she needs her man to be.

All a man really needs to know is to be the man every man is supposed to be and in many parts of the world, still is, not the brainwashed meterosexual handmaiden of North-American feminism. And learn in detail what that means.

that they in fact have a strong need to be sexually overwhelmed and dominated, that they are fundamentally emotional and childlike

And while that's an entertaining thought it just isn't true. Women are capable of a deviousness no child is, manipulation & planning to ruin an entire life of a man or maybe even several, if you let the situation get out of hand, including giving too much while living under the law/culture of a nation that by default gives excess power to a woman.

The smart move in that isn't just to learn what is "red pill" or what is "game" but also what is "over-all not smart" and "where things don't work that way" and move there, travel there, so you don't get fucked just living the life a man's supposed to live.

LMS_THEORY_ · 2014-12-25T13:08:50+00:00

Game has minimal effect on relationships. Always been the case. Everything starts and ends with physical attraction (looks). All other forms of attraction comes from money and status.

Title	The Difference Between Game And The Red Pill
Author	Silvestroyer
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Date	December 25, 2014 8:13 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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