Are the odds of coming across a LTR girl 1/1,000,000?

[deleted] · 2014-12-29T20:52:56+00:00

Stop looking. Looking leads to desperation, leads to oneitis, leads to settling for less than you want, leads to you getting fucked over. Stop looking.

[deleted] · 2014-12-29T21:04:28+00:00

I can field this:

"Gold digging traits": Need I remind you that in a traditional arrangement the wife is completely dependent upon the husband for support? Food, clothing, shelter, status, and material support for children is entirely derived from that of her husband; it's eminently reasonable for her to desire a wealthy and esteemed man.
"Bullshit major and have never worked a day in their lives": They're not there to get a degree to support themselves, they're there to find a good husband in a place with, likely, a very high density of good prospects.
"Ambitious girls": The easy, slutty, masculine ones who will spend their lives doing men's work? She doesn't need no man--why would you want to be hers?
"My blue pull friends' girls": Your friends are low-status men dating low-grade women.
"Not-attractive girls with nice personalities": They think you're "above" them; you probably are. Of course they're hesitant to be used and tossed away by you.

What can you draw from this?

It seems that girls that come from good families and respect their families and father, usually have some gold digging traits and lack ambition. They go for a bullshit major and have never worked a day in their lives. They implicitly state that they want to marry rich.

Duh. That's how it's supposed to work. You call it "gold digging" because you don't have any gold for them to dig. It's not a "bullshit major", it's a MRS degree. They implicitly state their goal is to find a future successful husband.

And, they usually do a lot of impulsive things live piercings and tattoos and inviting guys over to their place.

And this tells me you're seeing the ones who have fallen/will fall out of grace.

edited for grammar

DreamBoatGuy25 · 2014-12-29T22:25:43+00:00

I don't think it's quite that hard to find a good LTR material girl. Keep in mind that it's easy to get a lot of confirmation bias and generalize. If you read enough threads like this you can come out of it thinking that all women are deceitful whores. But the truth is there are plenty of women who can and are keeping their legs closed.

The thing you need to understand, though, is that you're not going to have the ability to choose any of the quality girls if you don't raise your SMV. So the thing for you to focus on right now is doing that. Follow in your friends footsteps, have him mentor you, use TRP and game to start getting more girls. One thing people often don't realize is that the genders generally evolved a complimentary inverse relationship. In other words it's just as important for women to keep their numbers and experience low as it is for men to get their numbers and experience higher. For a man it's a key part of your healthy development.

Focus on raising your SMV and gaining some experience with women. That will put you in a much better position to get the quality girls when they come along.

Onemanwolfpack23 · 2014-12-29T21:20:13+00:00

I don't know what you're doing or not doing.

Abundance mentality: Meet lots of people (men and women) through various activities. Do not be quick to judge, but keep your eyes open.

SQQQ · 2014-12-29T22:09:48+00:00

if ur serious about it, go foreign

brotherjustincrowe · 2014-12-29T22:14:35+00:00

Don't look for LTRs.

Go for FWB and plates. Upgrade if you think she's worth it but keep backup plans and be ready and willing to downgrade at the first sign of flaking or general cuntishness. Read up on dread game as much as you can.

musclemilkk · 2014-12-30T00:48:50+00:00

Be aware of that you might disqualify some girls too quickly. Here's my story:

My experience with LTR material: In the last two years, I have only met one single girl that would qualify as a 'high-quality' girl, and thus a potential LTR. As for looks, she was a 7 with a good body. However, when I first met her (sat with some friends at a lunch table in the school cafeteria), my first impressions of her was (or would be, with 'basic' RP knowledge) was that she was too attention-seeking, talking too much to boys (slutty) and generally loud.

I didn't really pay any special attention to her, so this is just the impression I had of her for one school year. She had gotten a boyfriend. The next school year, I got to know her a little better because one of my closer friends, natural alpha, thought she was hot and would talk with her sometimes. Eventually I found out that she was RP as fuck, knowing the exact roles of a male and a female in a relationship. Very feminine, supportive, and attracted to muscles and masculinity in general. I have even heard hear state out loud "I want men to be men" and shit like that. Anyways, that's not all. The boyfriend I mentioned? He moved and went to another school - very very far away - but she still has an ongoing relationship with him. She meets him a few times each year. The guy is standard looking. Don't know his personality. Anyways, here's the crazy thing. She is pretty drunk, my natural alpha friend is a little drunk, and they somehow, both, ended up in his room (on campus) at some point in the night. My alpha friend is pretty attractive, naturally good with women and has a sixpack as well. He teases her with the sixpack and everything. They somehow end up hooking up - just a short kiss I think, before she interrupted it - saying that she has a boyfriend and that she won't cheat on him. She then went back to her room. She has probably had more chances to fuck my friend as well, but she still remains very faithful to her long-distance relationship boyfriend. I will make sure to get to know her a little better before we finish school - in that way I would have the options open to contact her if I were to look for an LTR.

My point with the story is, don't be too quick to judge. I misjudged her because she was very social (I never see her on her phone btw), generally extroverted and very open to meeting people. You have to know the girl for a while, and their actions (which you would have to look at over time) defines who they are more than what you pick up from them in a conversation.

You are in college - and you probably have a few years left there - so you have time to keep an eye open. Don't desperately look for them, just collect data (their actions) and analyze. You say you met one girl... you probably didn't know her well enough. If I judge LTR material with a blank piece of paper (meaning that I don't sit there and think AWALT), only judging the first few weeks Ive known her, then I would probably have 10+ 'potential LTRs'. However, as time passes, their actions reveals them. Here's an example. 8/10. Seemed quite feminine, pretty interesting, etc. She told me things like that she loves reading, and all this innocent shit - then many many weeks later I get to know her better, and somehow our conversation moved over to alcohol. Told her my favorite drink and two minutes later she talks about how much she loves getting drunk and shows me a slutty picture of her in a club and a picture where she had passed out at a friend's place.

TL;DR: Look at a girl's action over time. Do not bother wasting time or effort on trying to determine whether a girl is high or low quality by getting to know a ton of girls on a more intimate level. Getting to know them like that will certainly make it easier to disqualify them, but it will not necessarily qualify them. Rather, give girls some time to show who they really are, through their actions, and you will have 95% less girls to interrogate for red flags later. Go fuck some HBs instead while keeping your eyes open. If you maintain/develop high SMV you will always have a good chance to pick up the potential LTR. They may have boyfriends. Be patient - he's probably a beta and things won't work out over time.

rusty84 · 2014-12-29T20:44:00+00:00

So in short:

I wish life were like what I thought it was like when I was blue pill and I developed oneitis for a girl

To answer the question: Why would you ever enter into an LTR? You always have the option of finding sex elsewhere.

Title	Are the odds of coming across a LTR girl 1/1,000,000?
Author	rusty84
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Date	December 29, 2014 8:37 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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