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CMV: Rachel Dolezal is the average female SJW and TBP redditor.

Nazrath2112
June 15, 2015
3 upvotes
/r/PurplePillDebate
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Title CMV: Rachel Dolezal is the average female SJW and TBP redditor.
Author

Nazrath2112
Upvotes 3
Comments 34
Date June 15, 2015 5:26 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/39xper/cmv_rachel_dolezal_is_the_average_female_sjw_and/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/PurplePillDebate/cmv-rachel-dolezal-is-the-average-female-sjw-and.281602
https://theredarchive.com/post/281602
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Comments

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (53 children) | Copy Link

Preemptively defining feminism as a laundry list of negative personality traits? Check. Conflating feminism with the imaginary "Social Justice Warriors"? Check. Rhetorical question intended to precipitate a redpill circlejerk? Check.

What exactly where you hoping for? "Some random person identified themselves as a different race, therefore feminism sucks" isn't something for which there can be a rational response, because it's not a rational statement in the first place.

[–][deleted] 1 points1 points1 points 11 years ago | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (50 children) | Copy Link

That PPD is a god-awful pit of 90% circlejerking redpillers doesn't mean people shouldn't be called out on something this blatant. At least try for some subtlety next time you want other redpillers to pat you on the back and tell you you're pretty smart, OP.

[–]Nazrath2112Blood Splatter Red[S] 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago* (49 children) | Copy Link

Ill change the flair for you.

Edit: That should prevent the circle jerking.

Edit'ed back, I didnt look at the commenter. Just another troll.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (48 children) | Copy Link

Why would it? The "question for bluepill" posts are still 90% redpillers agreeing with each other in the comments.

Ask a question like this (where the premise underlying the question is "feminism sucks amirite??") and all you'll get is redpillers agreeing with you and telling you you're so smart for having figured it out. That's just what happens. If you wanted a different outcome, maybe you should've asked a more neutral (and sincere) question.

[–]nicethingyoucanthaveRed Pill Male4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (28 children) | Copy Link

The "question for bluepill" posts are still 90% redpillers agreeing with each other in the comments.

Instead of whining, how about making a post stating what you believe (that is, what you actually believe, not what you disagree with TRP on) about human sexuality.

CMV: Male and female are social constructs, therefore there's no reason to believe that men and women are attracted to different things or behave differently.

Something like that. Take a stand for something that you actually believe. Make TRPers attack your view.

You, and many other blue pillers, get frustrated in PPD because most of your posts are more like, "here's something TRP says that's wrong!!" and of course, most of the responses are either, "here's a different/more nuanced understanding of that, and here's a situation where it'd be true" and what you were hoping for, I suppose, was TRPers to dissappear in a puff of logic. You're frustrated because of the way you're approaching the whole subreddit.

Stop focusing so much on what you're against and tell us what you're for.

I'd be frustrated too if I obsessed over something, let's say feminism for example, and I attacked it the way you attack TRP. Because if I made a post like the posts that blue pillers make here, then my post would be: There's no such thing as rape culture and you're all idiots!!

And what would happen then? Actual feminists would come in and say, "here's how we define this, so you'll know what we're talking about, and here are examples of it." And then I might whine like a child because I was hoping they were going to bow down and tell me how smart I am.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (27 children) | Copy Link

You, and many other blue pillers, get frustrated in PPD

Oh? And here I thought I was having fun. Sure, it's an intellectual cesspool, but it can be entertaining to go slumming sometimes.

most of the responses are either, "here's a different/more nuanced understanding of that,

Nope. Most of the responses are actually "BIOTOOFS!". Admittedly redpillers couldn't be concise even to save their lives so usually they write two or three paragraphs to communicate it, but that's the essence of most of the responses.

what you were hoping for, I suppose, was TRPers to dissappear in a puff of logic.

Not really. I don't expect to make redpillers go away with words, any more than I expect to be able to convert christians when I've gone over to /r/christianity. I'm just here to have fun, kill some time, and perhaps remind the occasional not-wholly-incoherent redpiller that their opinions are going to get pointed and laughed at outside of their little echo chamber. If on any given day I've reminded a redpiller that their little cult is not socially acceptable outside of their misogynistic safe space and that they'd do better to keep all their venom confined to that safe space, ahem, locker room, that's a day well-spent.

Stop focusing so much on what you're against and tell us what you're for.

Nah. Like I said, I don't expect reason to have any effect on a cult motivated by hurt feelings. And I'd rather not get into a group discussion with vitriolic strangers over my beliefs and preferences, thanks.

And then I might whine like a child because I was hoping they were going to bow down and tell me how smart I am.

"I know you are but what am I" isn't a very effective retort, you know. I objected to OP's post because what quote is the essence of his post. Trying to turn it around on me isn't going to bother me very much; I'm not the one creating posts on PPD to get my friends to tell me I'm right and those mean ol' femnazis are all wrong.

Overall, I'm just left wondering: what made you think I cared what you thought of me? And what made you think unsolicited suggestions for how I can behave in a way more pleasing to you would go over well?

[–]nicethingyoucanthaveRed Pill Male1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link

So you're not here to debate? Then please consider that you're not welcome in this debate sub.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link

I'm here to debate redpill theology. I'm not here to debate my own beliefs; they're irrelevant to why TRP is both empirically false and morally repugnant.

you're not welcome in this debate sub.

Hey brah, don't let your hurt fee fees get in the way. Why not lift a bit, hold frame, try to regain some of that amused mastery?

[–]nicethingyoucanthaveRed Pill Male1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link

I'm here to debate redpill theology.

Theology is a belief in god. You probably mean "philosophy."

Regardless, I responded to you not debating, but whining. You said that "posts are still 90% redpillers agreeing with each other" and I'll just repeat my suggestion that a large part of your frustration is that, like most blue pillers, you refuse to say what you believe (apart from that you disagree with TRP).

Let's take a look at something you said above: Most of the responses are actually "BIOTOOFS!"

This is a vague and useless criticism of TRP. We can't have a debate around a statement like that. Instead, you might start a thread like the following:

CMV: human behavior is too complex to have arisen from evolutionary processes, and any attempt to explain human behavior with a statement that begins with, "it may have evolved to..." is false on its face.

That'd be stating a belief. But yeah, I know you wont do that. It takes a lot more courage to say what you believe and then defend it than it does to juvenile snide remarks to no one in particular "biotwoofs!"

[–]Nazrath2112Blood Splatter Red[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

I'm following the standard set by the manipulators are bad post.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Link?

[–]Nazrath2112Blood Splatter Red[S] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/39qmcu/selfish_cowardly_manipulators_are_lowvalue/

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Oh man, that's pretty epic. Only thing they did wrong is that it shouldn't have been tagged as "CMV".

But awesome logical smack-down aside, you're saying that's bad, right? So then you're doing the same thing you believe is bad? Can you understand why "but someone else is doing it!" isn't really an ethical justification for doing something wrong?

[–]Nazrath2112Blood Splatter Red[S] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Meh the standards for the community are set, I am just living up to them. Right or wrong about some text on the intranets? Dont take life so seriously.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Maybe it's because you BP's have no leg to stand on, and no argument...your sole existence is to harass TRP users, brigade and troll them.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Cool story bro.

[–]drok007Not white enough to be blue pill0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

This is how it used to be for RPers in this sub. You used to get downvoted for just being RP even when you agreed with BPers. You could make a point, have a BPer agree with you, and then be downvoted while they are upvoted for saying "I agree." Now you've got butthurt clowns like this guy whining about it:

http://np.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/39q5c1/why_posting_to_ppd_is_a_waste_of_time/

A little bit of reality outside your narrow worldviewed hugbox and most of you run screaming and crying.

Funny how you guys have a bunch of guys over in TBP who need to keep reminding themselves PPD is a waste yet they keep coming here for some reason. Even funnier when they outright lie and say they don't post here, but still do, sometimes under alts.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

This is how it used to be for RPers in this sub.

Are you admitting this behavior is wrong and defending it because somebody else did it first? Or are you bringing up something completely irrelevant to whether it's ok to engage in circlejerking this blatant?

A little bit of reality outside your narrow worldviewed hugbox and most of you run screaming and crying.

Cool story bro.

Even funnier when they outright lie and say they don't post here, but still do, sometimes under alts.

And jet fuel can't melt steel beams, right? Why do you think I, or anyone, would care about your conspiracy theories about which bluepillers post here and which don't?

[–]drok007Not white enough to be blue pill-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Are you admitting this behavior is wrong and defending it because somebody else did it first? Or are you bringing up something completely irrelevant to whether it's ok to engage in circlejerking this blatant?

No, I'm just pointing out that BPers are hypocrites.

Cool story bro.

IKR?

And jet fuel can't melt steel beams, right? Why do you think I, or anyone, would care about your conspiracy theories about which bluepillers post here and which don't?

Because it's true. It's not my problem you are ignorant.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I'm just pointing out that BPers are hypocrites.

Because it's true. It's not my problem you are ignorant.

And this would be why I make fun of redpillers for circlejerking each other. You didn't write any of this for me, you already "know" I'm ignorant, hypocritical, teh dumb, etc. You wrote this for the other twerps, so they can agree with you and tell you how much smarter than us you are.

Do you see anything a little pathetic about going into a supposed debate sub just to get confirmation (from people you already know agree with you) that you're smart and your views are right?

[–]drok007Not white enough to be blue pill0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Well you could use to not side with shitty uncivil hypocrites or not be that way yourself, but you won't. This is why people aren't going to take you guys seriously.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I just had to pop into this thread to see that at least he hasn't changed his MO:

https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/3bm1o0/so_do_male_feminists_actually_get_much_sex_out_of/csoc4wv

[–]hyperrrealLoves fun[M] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Can you give me a reason why this should stay up? This doesn't seem like a topic that can be debated. We can't prove anything either way about the average BP redditor.

[–]Nazrath2112Blood Splatter Red[S] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Rational debate and standing up for your views might prove something about the normal BP redditor. Up to you though. I can edit that part out if you like.

[–]hyperrrealLoves fun1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

The title is what's most problematic. No one on this sub knows anything about Rachel Dolezal or BPers in real life. It seem like you're trying to connect the 2 to be deliberately inflammatory.

How would you feel if we let BPers post stuff like "CMV: Elliot Roger is the average redpill male. Angry at women? Check. Posts on misogynist online forums? Check. Raging narcissist? Check."

[–]Nazrath2112Blood Splatter Red[S] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I identify as being an RP and have to deal with and have dealt with lots of dudes in the anger phase. I've been in the military. My friends and I joke by making the most hurtful comments like "You're a pussy ass bitch.". Hell my mom jokes with me like this. Insult comedy.

Why would I care if they post about their belief or thoughts, no matter how inflammatory? Meh doesnt bother me. That's why i said its up to you.

[–]hyperrrealLoves fun1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Seeing as how I can see compelling reasons to remove this post, and no reasons to keep it up, I'm going to leave it removed.

Maybe you aren't bothered by BP circlejerking, but I suspect your nonchalance has more to do with the fact that the atmosphere of the sub favors TRP. I was here back when TBP was more dominant, and trust me, it was extremely frustrating at times.

PPD needs more balance, and I think a part of that is improving post quality. There needs to be more substantive content, and less short, inflammatory posted designed to piss off the other side.

[–]Nazrath2112Blood Splatter Red[S] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

My nonchalance has to do with not caring about internet points. I had negative comment karma before I started posting here. I don't care about that.

If I redid the post and removed the BP bit would you approve it? A CMV on this being the stereotypical SWJ? Or would that still be too inflammatory?

[–]hyperrrealLoves fun0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I would just make a discussion post with a neutral title Rachel Dolezal, and then bring up your opinion of her and SJWs in the text of the post.

[–]Nazrath2112Blood Splatter Red[S] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I put one up, take it down if you think its too antagonistic.

[–]hyperrrealLoves fun0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Your new post is good. Thank you.

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