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[–]Endorsed ContributorInvalidity4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's like feminists telling our society to teach boys not to rape. You can tell somebody not to do something, but whether they do it or not is ultimately up to them. The only way to stop it altogether is to exert full control over them, and that is one step towards enslavement.
I'm not going to tell people that women need to be honest about how they feel with their husbands (especially in dead bedroom situations), because no matter how much I might try to rationalize everything, if it doesn't benefit them, they won't do it.
If being deceitful benefits somebody, they will continue to do it. No amount of talking or "convincing" will sway someone.
[–]apackofwankers2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
"On Bullshit", Harry G Frankfurt explains this better
“Liars” and “Real Lies” are both rare and extraordinary. Everyone lies from time to time, but there are very few people to whom it would often (or even ever) occur to lie exclusively from a love of falsity or of deception. For most people, the fact that a statement is false constitutes in itself a reason, however weak and easily overridden, not to make the statement. For the pure liar it is, on the contrary, a reason in favour of making it. For the bullshitter it is in itself neither a reason in favour nor a reason against. Both in lying and in telling the truth people are guided by their beliefs concerning the way things are. These guide them as they endeavour either to describe the world correctly or to describe it deceitfully. For this reason, telling lies does not tend to unfit a person for telling the truth in the same way that bullshitting tends to. Through excessive indulgence in bullshitting, which involves making assertions without paying attention to anything except what it suits one to say, a person’s normal habit of attending to the ways things are may become attenuated or lost. Someone who lies and someone who tells the truth are playing on opposite sides, so to speak, in the same game. Each responds to the facts as they understand them, although the response of the one is guided by the authority of the truth, while the response of the other defies that authority and refuses to meet its demands. The bullshitter ignores these demands altogether. They do not reject the authority of the truth, as the liar does, and oppose themselves to it. They pay no attention to it at all. By virtue of this, bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are.
[–]RPSigmaStigma[S] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I was thinking of this exact concept when I was posting this. In fact, I almost considered using the "lies vs bullshit" distinction. So yeah, I'm basically talking about bullshiting with women.
[–]apackofwankers1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Its something I have started doing, but mostly only when they are doing intelligence-gathering interviews like "what do you do, do you have your own apartment, etc etc"
I have a theory that when you bullshit women, being bullshitters themselves, they feel more comfortable with you.
[–]NeoreactionSafe4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
If the woman looks up to you she is Charming towards you. That's female Game and they can play all day and all night.
If the woman looks down on you or is uncertain she will be a Shit Tester.
The truth or lying question isn't an issue if she is Charming you... she's looking for your attention if she Charms you.
For her to question your honesty is itself a Shit Test.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Solid thoughts....I've experienced both.
This should be coupled with the fact that if she's shit testing you, she's slightly interested. Women don't shit test men they are 100% not interested in.
[–]apackofwankers0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
For shit-test and interrogation-type questioning ("What do you do, how much do you earn, etc etc"), I used to get annoyed, but now I see it as a sign of interest, however crass.
[–]LongtimeRPLurker1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
In general this is true for most women. There are, however, scientific minded women who value rationality and truth. But sadly, they are still caught up in hypergamy.
[–]Finucho1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Awesome post, short and to the point.
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