On Frame: Yin & Yang?

PrettyBarbiePerson · 2020-01-13T18:18:07+00:00

Frame is like the most important concept yet you haven’t “dived into it ?”

I mean you come into ask trp asking for advice and stating in the question you haven’t looked at the sidebar for information on it

Gtfo

RacistMuffin · 2020-01-13T18:41:36+00:00

Frame is the agreed perspective within an interaction. There's no such thing as "your frame" within an interaction, there is always a frame present but you need to control that frame within that given situation.

It's not something you constantly keep within "you". That is merely just your own idealized fantasy you constantly have and how masculine you are(aka your values as a man doesn't correlate to your frame since there's no such thing as an individual frame). Frame is something that is to be controlled and most importantly aware of within any given interaction/situation.

1)You must always be aware of the frame of a given interaction. You constantly always have to put an agreed perspective within that interaction in order for the frame to fall into your control.

For example: Politicians are amazing at "frame control" because they answer any questions in a way to commit to a agreed perspective in their favor. Which strengthens and generates respect from the audience based on their social speaking capabilities

2) You always have to control the frame within the interaction. You are guiding and leading the course of the frame in order to appeal to the most of your needs within that set.

That's why dealing with shit tests have the ability to break your frame. It stirs the frame away from your control and creates a disagreeable perspective through premise(creating a man vs. women relationship without displaying interest). Shit tests also known as congruence test does not merely break the frame; but it just breaks the control you have for the frame and also puts you in a vulnerable state.

Shit tests also have the ability to destroy that control, that's why when one passes the shit test, it means the man has also "maintained frame". Which causes the frame to still be in that agreeable perspective.

That's why there are also ideas of frame battling. You are fighting over the control of the frame in order to appeal subconsciously who is in control of the agreeable perspective.

3) You must always resist giving the impression that you are trying to control the frame.

Frame control is an indicator of alphaness, if you control frame the female tingles for you since you have the ability to lead the interaction towards your favor; through your needs of what comes out of the situation. If you are too forceful with controlling the frame, the frame doesn't fall into your favor and you're doing the opposite of controlling it.

Also the idea of you "having a shit frame" is poorly worded. A better word to describe it is saying the frame is weak within the interaction. There's no sort of guidance on where the interaction is going on your part. That's why saying a conversation's frame is weak in an interaction = there's no sort of narrative pointing towards from it.

That is why there is a saying called "maintaining frame". Most guys on seduction and trp have a wrong interpretation of what frame necessarily is. Do not confuse someone's values = a frame

2030isCloserThan2003 · 2020-01-13T18:22:02+00:00

My opinion, is that frame represents your values & boundaries as a man. When your frame breaks, you break down as a man.

Sure, you can look at men & women as yin & yang, this is why we’re biologically compatible in continuing life.

Women Also have their own frame which can be represented through giving out shit tests, acting sexy, being emotional, being feminine, & knowing her role next to a man.

The balance here is to let her act as a woman without you giving up your manhood. If a woman gives up her feminine frame, she is immediately less attractive bc now she is no longer acting as a woman. The same goes for men, which is why we’re always told to act like a man.

This is the only way that yin & yang can equally work for men & women, when they are both upholding their own gendered roles.

Red_Pill_Brotherhood · 2020-01-13T20:07:36+00:00

The push and the pull you enact work simultaneously to contribute to your agenda and frame. When push/pull is done properly, it has the desired outcome you seek and are working towards whilst retaining your values which is having and holding your frame.

Your frame is as flexible as YOU make it for what YOU want in a given situation, barring that you're not capitulating your position.

Title	On Frame: Yin & Yang?
Author	Thunderbird93
Upvotes	1
Comments	10
Date	January 13, 2020 6:08 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/askTRP
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