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[–]abdada12 points13 points14 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
When I was in power and wealth creation mode in my teens and 20s, I didn't have a lot of time for male friends.
Why waste a breath on a female one?
Peers, colleagues and the rare inner circle friends are all you should have time for until you have earned time off.
You only get that teens-to-twenties energy for about a decade. How you use it affects the next 50-60 years of your life.
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[–]abdada6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I don't see any friend female in your post, tho. Maybe an orbiter, probably more so a female who wants to claim responsibility for your work.
[–]GrandmasterHurricane2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Just because you're not friends with someone it doesn't mean you're on hostile terms.
This whole post sickens me and you sound like big beta who needs people in his life all the time.
[–]GrandmasterHurricane6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Sigh, I just stopped reading after a while. You have to learn the difference between an acquaintance and a friend.
You don't have to be friends with someone just because you've known them for a long time. There are people I took it off mutt live that I knew since we were kids. Growing up means thinking your own thoughts and having your own interests and having your own moral values. Sometimes you realize that you were only friend with people because they were around and it was convenient. Your personalities might not click too well, nor do you even have the same interests or same values. You have to learn to let go.
I'm not about to go out of my way for any girl in life because the concept of loyalty, honor, and brotherhood means nothing to them. I could watch her cat for her one day and when I need a favor she turns me down. Men know that you have to return that favor because if you don't, well, it makes you a piece of shit and an unreliable guy. No man wants that on his rep. A woman, she couldn't care less and in fact will even attempt to shame you for expecting a reasonable favor from her. I know first hand, from observing my decently balanced (situational alpha/sometimes very beta/sometimes alpha) brother and his female friends.
Women don't understand brother-sister dynamics the same way we do. To them, you're just some man she won't fuck but will still give her attention and affection. You'll get thrown under the bus very quick. You'll see a girl have this brother like guy in her life, doing bro-sis things n shit, but as soon as Chad comes around and tells the girl to tell the guy to go fuck himself he gets kicked out of her life that easy. You're disposable. Never forget that. She will take your money to buy Chad a gift (Happened with a girl I was fucking at work once who I became exclusive with. She'd take her best friend/brother's money to buy me shit and had no shame in admitting it to me. Funny thing is, he's the guy she cheated on me with in the end. Funny how the female mind works). You're disposable.
You should never be buddy-buddy with your friends/bros girls. She should be an acquaintance to you, always. Even if she's around your group all the time. Keep it light, not even casual.
Just because you knew a girl since your preTRP days, it doesn't mean you can't drop her from your life. In fact, as a RP it would be weird not to drop her if you want more from her but you already know it's futile. You can't be friends with people you secretly wanna fuck, that's that nice guy shit. You're either in our you're out. Have some self respect.
This post is Beta as fuck. Women can never be reliable friends. Not for emotional support, not for favors, not for anything. They will never go out of their way for you.
[–]BibulousCinephile 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
What is happening to this place?
6 months ago a post about being 'friends' with a woman would have been quite rightly laughed off.
This post , along with all of the other shitty content we've been getting recently makes me think that in 6 months there will somehow be a revelation in TRP theory that chivalry is the most effective way of becoming a man.
The massive influx of new members from other places in Reddit worries me. Things are gonna get blue around here. I can feel it.
[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW160 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Things are gonna get blue around here. I can feel it.
Spare us the dramatics and use the downvote button. From my view this posting as a rating of zero so the system is working.
[–]BibulousCinephile 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And you felt the need to be condescending because....
[–]1favours_of_the_moon3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
That's cool, but you really have to manage their perceptions. If they think they are dominating you or leading you around, their behavior can get downright oppositional and unruly.
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[–]1favours_of_the_moon1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We're not speaking of reality here.
We're speaking of what's going on in a girl's pretty little head.
[–]mrmeyhemn3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
why "friends" does not work with women.
they inevitably want you to act like an orbiter. there is no exception. if you are her friend, meaning even if you have 0 romantic interest in her, she will always at some point want and insist that you behave like an orbiter. being friends with a woman is a waste of time. if you need companionship friends it is best to have male friends, and a dog, because dogs are more loyal than both men and women.
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[–]mrmeyhemn2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
ok, get back to me in 20 years or so and let me know how you feel about being friends with women. you won't even have to wait that long. after college, come back after college and grant us your infinite wisdom them.
[–]mrmeyhemn2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
friendship by its very nature requires exerting effort. your argument is invalid.
furthermore, i never conceded your contentions, your FR is little more than you expressing your "feeelings" about the assertion that being friends with women is somehow beneficial to men. if thats how you feelz about it then by all means go ahead. my point is that if you want friendship with less hassle have male friends, women make shitty friends.
the fact that you used the dictionary definition of "friends" means nothing, being friends requires effort, its give and take. if "not being hostile" and "being on good terms with another" makes people my friends then I'm friends with pretty much everyone i meet. friendship is more than just that.
please explain why a grown man with 3 vehicles, a house, a successful business, kids, who has slept with more women than you likely went to high school with, and has 20 years more experience with women should "take your word for it" that women make great friends. your observation based on your limited experience means jack shit to me.
lookout guys, another teenager has the world all figured out and we should take the "infinite knowledge" he gained from high school (being able to read a dictionary) as gods word that "women make good friends" and that "we should be friends with women".
[–]1DaBaulz[🍰] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Totally agreed, with one exception - friends with a girl that you want is a horrible idea. If you love the girl and she doesn't dig you, banish her, friends will never work.
Now To the meat: Friends with a hot woman that you don't want is WAY MORE VALUABLE then being lovers with her. As a friend you can invite her to bars, concerts, swimming holes, you can use her to be fun. Wanna go skiing this weekend? Guess whose coming? Hot friend babe. And Chad is using her to pick up all her friends. Girls can be REALLY fun in this way. The trick is to NOT want them, the trick is to do this because you couldn't pick them up. If you have standards there are girls out there your just not into, those will make for perfect friends. An invaluable tool for an alpha is a wealth of friends, therefore this is more important then a lover because this tool will help you get many lovers.
Who is this man with several hot women friends? Why hasn't he creeped them out yet? He's chad thundercock.
Notice that when I say friends, I mean in a sort of light hearted male/female teasing way, using eachother for mutual benefit. Real friendship with a woman is hard to attain and much rarer then real friendship with bros. Your female friends will ditch you for Chad, so never depend on them. True male friends, true brotherhood is unrivalled. A serious hole in PUA and TRP, is male relationships. Part of being an alpha is the friendship of males, the way you interact and the way you are respected by males. IF all you ever worry about is females, yet you do not have a tribe of men that support you and respect you (and that you respect), women wills see through your game.
[–]sir_wankalot_here1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
OP has a point.
Friendzone is when the guy has the hots for the chick, and the chick isn't into him. So the guy attempts to do stuff for the chick hoping to get her to change her mind.
But if you set boundaries and don't expect her to have sex with you things will work out OK. Again it is a matter of expectations
[–]f3yleaf1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Female friends can be an awesome asset for a rp guy, anyone who does not realize this is dumb.
[–]SeekingTheWay0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You are essentially applying their own Briffault's law back on them. You want some benefit from the interaction (e.g. sex) and she made it clear that it is not happening. Since you do not see anything else of value in her, you refuse relationship where you are not getting the benefit.
[–]notthatguyTHATguy 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
According to that definition of a friend, all my coworkers that I don't fight with are my friends. You should reword this to be on the lines of: how to use women to meet other women without becoming an orbiter. Because that's all you're describing here. Hugging someone doesn't make them your friend. Good friends don't use each other like this post describes...
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