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Reminder: Don't vote for fucking socialists

AKchesterton

January 19, 2020

53 upvotes

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/19/gender-neutral-language-battle-spain

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Title	Reminder: Don't vote for fucking socialists
Author	AKchesterton
Upvotes	53
Comments	30
Date	January 19, 2020 1:22 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/eqw5ie/reminder_dont_vote_for_fucking_socialists/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MGTOW/reminder-dont-vote-for-fucking-socialists.375935 https://theredarchive.com/post/375935

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[–]secant128-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I don't think there's a thing that we disagree on. I didn't say I believe in 0% socialism did I? I am also not a pure capitalist. I am for a mixed economy some people would refer me as a minarchist.

It's not black and white. In which sentence did I say I am completely against socialism? I said we already live in a socialist / mixed economy, Like you said, we have the military, we have the cops, the education, and many others, but some people still complain. And I am just calling them out. I am calling out ALL socialism, I am calling out those that want more socialism under our already socialistic system.

Here is what I think the role of the government is summed up nicely by Milton Friedman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhmuBskOtWM

Basically, military, law and order (justice), police, treasury are the fundamental roles of the government.

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[–]secant1280 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well the thing with the Scandinavian model is that they have high taxes as well. So if you are willing to pay the high taxes you get high welfare as well. There's no free lunch.

The only problem is that you need people working to pay for all those taxes. And yet the fertility rate is falling all over the west including Scandinavian countries and that means the workers are dropping which means the tax revenue is falling. Now either women make more babies or they'll have to import workers and places who have excess workers are Muslim countries. And when a new group of people with completely different culture and values get injected into the system the homogeneity of these scandinavian countries no longer exist and you'll have to accept that.

I am not saying for or against. I am just saying there are always costs and benefits, cause and affect. There's no cherry picking. I know US people who want to move to Scandinavian countries for their free college and welfare. I've also known Scandinavian people who want to move to the US for the freedom, guns, less taxes, etc.

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That is just the opposite of why capitalism works and socialism doesn’t.

A free system works because people are selfish and a free system prevents people from abusing things too much.

Socialism fails because humans are selfish. So those with power will abuse it for selfish reasons and screw everything up. Also people will become lazy and do the bare minimum because they gain nothing personally from working (even though it brings suffering to others).

A good example is Venezuela. Nobody cares about doing the right thing for there isn’t a reward anymore. So things just decline more and more.

Just imagine if murder was legal. Would people just be killing each other and getting away with it? No, definitely not as people do not want to die. So people would protect themselves and the people they care about by shooting those that try to kill them and refrain from attacking those that would hurt them. This would quickly result in murder being discouraged to the point that it is about as rare as before (perhaps rarer as the consequences would be more severe).

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