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[–]DominicanFury35 points36 points37 points 6 years ago (40 children) | Copy Link
Huh wtf Bernie has to do with mgtow
[–]lonewolfcatchesfire17 points18 points19 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
OP guy is just one of those red hats.
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[–]lonewolfcatchesfire0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ok. Good for you.
[–]GoHurtMyFeelings5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
He doesnt, but hes a loony old man and a giant hipocrite.
[–]DominicanFury-2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Where are your facts?
[–]GoHurtMyFeelings4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Has a fucking millionaire that's never had a real job and he's constantly demonizing rich people even though he is one himself.
[–]DominicanFury1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bernie Sanders comes from immigrant family who was poor living paycheck to pay check. He wants to change that for America. Right now 48% Americans are making less 18,000 a year. Bernie Sanders is the most popular politician in the USA his net worth is about 1.3million dollars without corporate corruption. Mitch McConnell aka Moscow Mitch networth is 22million dollars. Just for comparison i would understand if Bernie Sanders was filthy rich which is not your point is mute. When the system don't work for the bothoom 80% of American someone needs to come in with Solutions that other candidates don't have. Bernie Sanders is a FDR type of president which got us out of a depression, did really well in WW2 and built up almost all the infrastructure we have today. I'm defending Bernie because he genially actually cares about America.
Bernie saved this man from suicide because of 100k medical debt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srm2kEh2taA&t=472s
[+]formerlydeaddd[S] -16 points-15 points-14 points 6 years ago (32 children) | Copy Link
Everything and nothing grasshopper
[–]RememberGoliad183614 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (30 children) | Copy Link
Commie MGTOWs come out of the woodworks when any political post is made because to be MGTOW and commie is literally cucking yourself. Therefore all real MGTOWs are right leaning.
[–]wsmith7924 points25 points26 points 6 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
what a dense and dangerous thing to say. politics and mgtow are not related and attempting to split mgtow with partisanship is the beginning of the end for a nation wide mgtow movement.
[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm not paying 90% in taxes because empowered wahmens want to fuck useless men
[–]formerlydeaddd[S] 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah I don't think mgtow can fit left or right. I wouldn't mind more liberals chiming in. Everyone is welcomed here. After all, mgtow fosters sovereignty from group think. Freedom of speech too. Freedom of thought. Say what you want. There aren't many places where men can do that.
[–]48LawsOfFlour5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The commies on the left want you married to the state and the tradcons on the right want you married to a good woman.
I don't know; maybe one or both is the right way to do things. Who knows? They both seem like outrageous lies to me, but that is just a belief.
What I do know is neither are MGTOW. And both are a threat to the lifestyle. They both hate us equally.
[–]RememberGoliad18365 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Wrong. In 1963 a congressman read the 45 goals of communism into the congressional record. If you read these 45 goals you will see that they have accomplished MOST of them thus far. Among those 45 goals are MANY that are feminist related. Feminism is a tool of the communists. YOU are evil. You remind me of the degenerates in the conservative movements. Guess what, even if our numbers diminish good, commies don’t belong here, they are infiltrators. And MGTOW isn’t a movement it’s a lifestyle. All commies are murderers and therefore should be dealt with accordingly.
[–]formerlydeaddd[S] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
There are many men of all walks of life and many in transition here. All are welcomed. All voices are heard.
[–]RememberGoliad18361 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I never said all voices weren’t heard. You can say whatever you want and yes all are welcome. I’m pointing out the absolute insanity of coming here and spewing pro commie things here. That’s not a guy in transition it’s an infiltrator that was screwed over by women but is clinging to the causes of said problem. Ex commies and those in transition that’s fine, glad SOME have found their brain, welcome.
[–]bmoney68971 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not from me, and here's why. Communists, or even collectivists of any kind will never be welcomed or tolerated by me in any way shape or form because anyone that even seriously suggests taking away my rights is my enemy (and the enemy of all mankind) and should be dealt with accordingly, like goliad said. With a bullet to the back of the head.
Maximum personal freedom at all costs, zero exceptions. Look up Yuri Bezmenov and you'll see exactly why what I say is correct.
[–]theCaptainRhodes130 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah but these fag leftists are the problem. They vote for more feminism. These fools need to go...
[+]tonysfamous-6 points-5 points-4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Define communism.
[–]themackattack902 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Thank you for calling this out. I'm tired of people trying to gatekeep MGTOW. The entire premise is based on the idea of individual freedom. There are no list of requirements to join.
[–]Ibelieveallwomen3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Under Communism and Socialism you have no individual freedom. MGTOWs that support Bernie Sanders are frauds.
[–]themackattack90-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
And it’s neoconservatives that support extended wars that send men to fight and die for no good reason and corrupt capitalists that keep men shackled to the plantation. The left has given women extra rights and the right has kept them from getting the correlating responsibilities. They are both awful for men.
You don’t get to define MGTOW for me or anybody else. That’s the whole point of the philosophy.
[–]Ibelieveallwomen0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You are a fraud.
[–]Ibelieveallwomen0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Get a job the bums have lost.
[–]themackattack90-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I’ve got one. It comes with a nice salary, my employer doubles my retirement contribution, and I’ll get 39 paid days off next year. And that’s not a typo, it’s eight fucking weeks. No debt, no leeches, nothing stopping me from saving 15% of my income and investing another 25% for years to come. I’ve got no distractions to keep me from bettering myself, which I’ve done with fantastic results thus far.
But I don’t own a MAGA hat, so I guess I’m not MGTOW.
[–]Ibelieveallwomen1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If you vote for Bernie no you're not lol
[–]theCaptainRhodes13-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah dude. Sorry. But your kind of a faggot. How would you ever proclaim to be mgtow but then vote for more feminism. Retards like you are the reason we are in this situation in the first place. Mgtow is absolutely political. Almost completely.
[–]theCaptainRhodes131 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think a lot of these communist MGTOWs were raised by single mothers. That’s the only way to explain it. How can you be a man going your own way with government assistance? Don’t make sense to me.
[–]S-Actualizing-5 points-4 points-3 points 6 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
As if commie is even an insult at this point. Look at what 250+ years of capitalism has brought us. Dont you just love having to work 60 hours a week minimum to be in debt? I say this not as an ad hominem but as a more general statement (as this is true for an overwhelming amount of Americans. Yes, I get it, its easy to separate as us vs them and write everyone who dosent agree off as a commie or whatever but that's completely missing the point at hand. Reflect on the actual problems in this country and then come back and say some stupid shit again. Stop pretending to be on the side that has it all figured out. This is an issue that plagues litterally every nation on the planet because no single economic system can overcome the upper limits of human greed.
[–]RememberGoliad18364 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Wrong and no I don’t because I am self employed. Anyone that doesn’t work towards self employment is either content with where they are or just refuses to put in the work. No surprise to see you defend communism because you hate your job and having to work 60+ hrs. Show me a communist country that works. Also, I find it funny how commies mention 250 years of capitalism but you do realize that the US WILL potentially go away because of socialism? It’s cringey when you think about that. Because when the system does collapse they will blame capitalism but the very thing that bankrupted us to begin with was socialist policies. 33% of spending on social security, 27% on Medicare, 6% on interest. That’s 60% (not including interest) of what America spends on, when both of these things shouldn’t exist because it’s not the governments job. And then the retards want to complain about 15-16% military spending? This number should be 80-90%. And you could bring the tax rate down to zero and still be fine. Tariffing commie countries like China works great for raising money. I’m not pretending to be on the side that has it all figured out but I am on the side that has most of it figured out. There is no perfect system, until Christ comes back and rules with an iron fist, until then people are going to be running around trying to figure out the way to a perfect government. Of course I don’t expect a militant atheist like yourself to understand this. If you were halfway smart you’d see that communism has failed many times before and would at least strive for an alternative to both communism and capitalism. But no you just want free stuff. I simply choose to see commies for what they are - murderers.
[–]S-Actualizing-2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
First sentence and you are already off. Remember when I said that it wasn't ad hominem but a general statement? I said that for this exact reason. Or do you not know what that means? Not even going to waste my time reading this.
[–]RememberGoliad18365 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Facts win again.
[–]S-Actualizing0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Yea keep telling yourself that as the economy continues to go down the drain because of close minded people like you. Bet your neanderthal grandkids will be saying the same thing 150 years from now as they trade their blood for a months supply of food. (That was ad hominem btw)
[–]RememberGoliad18364 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
(Down the drain because of socialism). I won’t have kids I’m MGTOW. Remember not a infiltrator poser like you. Oh sorry ad hominem I guess that means I can’t reply. (This is ad hominem btw)
[–]formerlydeaddd[S] -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
When we address accusations on an individual level we run the risk of having the thread locked or removed. Please accuse ideology, not the individual.
[–]GoHurtMyFeelings4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Brought us a hell of a lot more than communism/socialism ever will.
250 years of capitalism has made the most dominant country on the planet. You sound like a woman. Most men enjoy working. And I have no debt. Never been married.
[–]captainsaveahoe69-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He's not the brightest.
[–]MethaCat22 points23 points24 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You still think that your life will be better if red/blue team wins?
Politicians don't care about you, they never had and they never will. Just go your own way bro.
[–]tragedyOfTheCommons22 points3 points4 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
just go your own way
that's precisely what they want. divide et impera. it's smart to go for for a tactical retreat. it is not smart to run away for ever hoping they never catch you.
[–]RememberGoliad183612 points13 points14 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Love it. No better way to let the system collapse then try to reap some of those benefits
[–]anoynomuzz7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
how to win an election: offer free stuff
Free KFC on sundays. It is every American's right, guaranteed by the 27 amendments, to enjoy the kernel's 11 herbs and spices. Do not get me wrong, I understand the need for Mexican, which is why we have a plan to include tacos, commencing in 2023, with 3 tacos per citizen, and culminating in 2035 where-by every man, woman, and child, will be entitled to 6 free tacos and sour cream, if they so wish for sour cream.
[–]thafucc0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"if they so wish for sour cream." That part put me in the grave. 😂😂💀
[–]den-kun6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
If universal basic income becomes a thing all those slaves doing uber, Lyft etc are going to stop working
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[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
UBI is nothing but a scam to funnel money into the hands of people who already have the money and means to generate wealth. It's just further enriching them. It does nothing to really address poverty.
Exactly. I'm no student of economics, but its blindingly obvious that if you tax workers more to flood the market with more welfare money (which is all UBI is), then the price of goods is going to go up. Then UBI will need to increase, so they'll tax workers more, and the price of goods is going to go up. Then UBI will...
It's a terrible idea that won't work.
[–]formerlydeaddd[S] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
What we need is for people to maybe try not having kids before 21. That'd knock out the poverty ratio pretty swiftly.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
It'd help, but there isn't as much work out there as there used to be. Automation of manual and repetitive tasks means there just isn't that much for someone to do if they're not skilled up. People with little to no income and too much time on their hands are going to find ways to pass the time, ie crime, drugs, spawning football sides of kids for more welfare, etc.
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[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I've moved 4 times in the last 8 years. I follow the work and I'm glad I did. Earn decent coin, pay bugger all in terms of rent and don't have to deal with the traffic, crime, congestion/claustrophobia, etc of a big city.
Safe to say we agree that handing out freebies does nothing at all for anyone except give air-headed Samaritans a brief tingly feeling over how wonderful they are to support such short-sightedness.
[–]formerlydeaddd[S] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link
There's work man. I spend entire weeks trying to decide what I should do for the rest of my life. With 5g's invested, you can take a $10g's community college program in so many freaking vocations and trades that won't be automated anytime soon that we should be suffering more from paradox of choice than from lack of opportunity. Network technician, low voltage tech, lineman, hvac, cad drafting, welding, heavy equipment operation, electrical, solar panel installation, technical sales, car sales, tower climbing, commercial driving, web coding, automation technician, medical coding, real estate sales, cosmetology, the list is endless. All you need to do is work a shit job for a year at your parents house, and take a class. I have functional addict friends that aren't living in poverty and they shoot $35 into their arms and smoke a $10 pack of cigarettes a day. My grandfather didn't have the schooling networks we have today. There was no online coding bootcamps. You took a job because it was one of 2 to choose from in town and Mildred's eyes lit up when you mentioned you'd be working with horses.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
That's great, but that's also just you. Not everone is so inclined to make something of themselves. Fact is a lot of those jobs aren't that easy or come with some danger, and definitely aren't for everyone. Even LV work has a way of weeding out the incompetent ones - knew a sparky who nearly got an apprentice killed when he disconnected the earth on a panel. Similarly I've seen the amount of damage someone can do using cranes and earth-moving equipment if they don't know what they're doing. Welding is difficult and can be punishing on the body - its 40 degrees out here and we've got 30 boilies in the workshop welding away on construction jobs.
At the end of the day, there are less jobs out there and still plenty of people around. 100 jobs get automated away and only 10 new jobs to maintain and operate the equipment are created. People on the lower end of the scale are going to miss out.
[–]formerlydeaddd[S] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I can agree unskilled individuals can get themselves into trouble. I'm unskilled myself. But there's opportunity like never before, and that's the truth. Instead of increasing globalization incentives, a country should be maintaining it's own workforce first. The trade jobs could be going to the lower class us and instead, we're fucking off. That's a problem with the way we're conducting life man. 50% of single mothers make less than 25 grand a year in the us and the majority are under 21. Now the father is on the hook for child support and the mother is unable (or would struggle) to devote capital to education for 10+ years. Men are dropping out ideologically too, case in point the existence of the sub we're talking on right now. It's a lack of guidance and a lack of call to responsibility in young adulthood and those aren't things daddy government should encourage with income stipends on the poor or universal income. The main issue isn't lack of opportunity right now. It's lack of responsibility. It's the 12 girls and 15 guys in every highschool class that smoke pot and drink on the weekends with their parents as their beer pong partners. I was there. Ive seen what it did to everyone I was ever close to. And as I gain a better understanding of the world it becomes apparent that all the young girls that look just like my friends are going to wind up in public housing trying to hit the 3 baby mark so their tax "return" is over 6k just like all my 26-29yo female friends are doing now. It aint fucking right man.
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But there's opportunity like never before, and that's the truth.
The world is a smaller place and you can certainly pursue careers and options that weren't available 50, 20 or even 10 years ago, but that also means other people can do the same. Its never been easier to send work overseas and to import goods rather than make your own. Certain countries (ie Australia where I live) are just finding it uneconomical to keep a lot of work here, and our cost of living is high enough as it is.
I recall a friend telling me about the house his old man bought back in the 60s or 70s. The guy was a teacher on $18k per year back then and bough a house for 6 months salary. Half a year, and you have a house in a small town. Those days are long, long gone. If I want to buy an old house in a not particularly good part of a small town, I'm on the hook for 5+ years at least. If I wanted to buy a house where I grew up in Sydney, I'd have a mortgage I'd never pay off in my lifetime.
There certainly are new opportunities, but the "opportunity like never before" part I don't agree with.
[–]formerlydeaddd[S] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah ive got the same issue here as far as buying a house is concerned. But there's options. You can't live in a magnet city with no skills and expect to live comfortably here that's for sure. You aren't well off making 50k in San Fransisco or NYC. But fuck if there aren't newly remodeled 2bd houses going for a year's salary out in the middle states. Maybe it's similar there? Idk. Just here to recommend anyone reading this under 21, chill. Wait it out. Save. Because 30 without a house is ugly and god don't like ugly.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If my renters start getting $1k/ month of free money.... I can start charging them $1k/ month more than I was before. And they'll pay it, too. Because if they don't, somebody else will.
If my renters start getting $1k/ month of free money.... I can start charging them $1k/ month more than I was before.
And they'll pay it, too. Because if they don't, somebody else will.
Ha, you just described pretty much exactly what happened when the Australian government handed out a new home owner's grant a few years back. I think it was something like $9k to people buying their first home... a week later, the price of houses had gone up accordingly. Go figure.
Because nobody in this world is going to look out for you, but yourself. And if you pass up on an opportunity to keep yourself above the wage slavery, you'll have nobody but yourself to blame if you end up in that position.
Amen. Good post, thanks for taking the time to write it. Normally I'd skip over a wall of text, but not this time.
[–]den-kun0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
If UBI becomes reality i see an influx of wage slaves quitting their jobs and living in a van down by the river. The vast majority of American jobs are service jobs. The proliferation of gig economy “jobs” speaks volumes of how fucked America is. When you have to use your personal car to pick up scumbags, pick up and deliver someone’s shitty fast food, stuff your car full of amazon crap to deliver, there’s something wrong. People would rather live in a van or rv and survive off cup noodles and a 1k a month income than work these slave jobs. I honestly don’t see how the government and economy wouldn’t collapse. If some socialist like sanders or warren is elected the first thing I’ll do is sell off my entire stock portfolio, quit my job and pull all my money out of the bank. Why the fuck would I work just to pay even more taxes. They’re also planning that 97.5% income tax for the super wealthy. Shit makes no sense, the super wealthy will just jump ship to a place with less taxes
[–]den-kun1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
As a cuban exile, I can tell you for a fact if America gets real socialism shit will hit the fan. Cuba has free healthcare for everyone, free college, a guaranteed government appointed job, yet people fight over a month old stale loaf of bread. I imagine all of America turning into a worse version of current California. So I’m preparing an exit strategy as of now. I’m just glad I don’t have to worry about child support or alimony.
[–]Boggob153 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Love their unapologetic humor.
[–]NotVeryCash-Money2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't associate with the Republican party. I don't associate with any party. I'm my own fuckin party.
[–]AllWomenAreUnicorns1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Just want to say I am so fucking sick of people using the word “literally” for every fucking goddamn thing
[–]Toasty_Nuggetz1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I know, it is literally in every sentence
[–]jasondr71 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
In my vision GYOW and politics arent really related. It is more of a interpersonal thing than a societal thing. In other words it is more about how you interract with the people around you and not how society is set up. You should make moves regardless if the red, blue or other team is winning.
[–]Scagnetty1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Next day all rents increase by $500/month.
[–]Wardedbilledanteater0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's not a political philosophy. If its becomes a political philosophy it will side out with all the male fads. Hear much from the Promise Keepers? Yeah. They were a group of pusssies.
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[–]Ibelieveallwomen0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Spot on. I remember the pro Hillary MGTOWs during the last election. Not sure if they're still here, probably married with kids by now.
[–]TrueProfessor-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm in favour of welfare, I'm also in favour of reigning in thots. I don't think these things are necessarily mutually exclusive. I mean as much as I dislike the nature of women, I really won't mind if a single mum gets a welfare check, there's no saving those retarded women, only the next generation is the one we can have any hope of saving.
I don't think anything good comes out of letting women starve on the streets because they are bumbling idiots with reptilian brains.
I won't let good livestock die because they are a bit unruly, I'll just focus my attention on the next flock.
I think the moment we get enough men to stop getting with women, they will correct their ways by themselves, but the movement has to reach a critical point, before that nothing really affects these women.
As such I personally believe that MGTOW is more of a personal philosophy which is unsustainable for widespread societal reform and as such will never be accepted by most people. The society that does accept it will just be wiped out for lack of babies.
Conservatism is better but only if it is minus pussy worship and gynocenterism, unless there's a political movement around conservatism that is ALSO anti women and pro patriarchy, nothing will really change.
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