Made the UK's newspaper of record - as you can imagine it's negative in outlook

Borgmeister · 2019-10-07T10:43:56+00:00

Here's the full text of the article:

Ethan Klein is a sort of YouTube everyman. His average Joe shtick has attracted a respectable 6.5 million subscribers to h3h3Productions, the channel he runs with his wife, Hila. Klein serves up standard YouTube fare: he goofs around, dabbles in conspiracy theories (is the Pope a paedophile?) and weighs in on topical issues. By YouTube standards he represents a strand of uncontroversial mainstream opinion: he hates Donald Trump, parasitic bankers — and feminists.

We’re familiar with the idea that the internet separates us into political “filter bubbles”. Algorithms personalise our online experience, serving us content which confirms our liberal or conservative prejudices. But there’s another, perhaps more important, split. The internet is divided by gender.

This is not just a matter of algorithms. Online, men and women tend to hang out in different places and have different conversations. YouTube and Reddit are mainly male environments — almost 70 per cent of the user base of both sites is reportedly made up of men. Instagram is skewed towards women, as is the image-sharing site Pinterest (a reported 80 per cent of its users are female). Even on those sites men and women are segregated; YouTube is host to a massive, overwhelmingly male gamer community but also to the female-dominated world of lifestyle and beauty vloggers.

In YouTube terms, Klein doesn’t count as right-wing (the progressive Democratic congresswoman Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez sent congratulations when his wife became a US citizen). But watching his videos, I was struck by how badly his feminist-baiting style (“Crazy Feminist gets triggered”, “Buzzfeed hates men”) would go down on a more politically liberal, gender-balanced platform like Twitter — recent research suggests the site’s most active users tend to be women.

If this all seems trivial, remember how much time we spend online — more than six hours a day according to recent estimates. That means that many of us spend hours every week in gender-segregated clubs. New cultural differences are developing between men and women. To millions of young men the Canadian intellectual and lifestyle guru Jordan Peterson, who advocates old-school, rugged manly values, is a hero. But he is anathema to most young women.

A recent article in the Irish women’s magazine Image explored the phenomenon. Its author was contacted by a flood of single women who felt their dating lives were being thwarted by disagreements over Peterson and his philosophy. One offered this report of a bad date: “It seemed like he’d never heard anyone say a bad word about Peterson and just didn’t get it.” She was right: if he’d spent all his time on Reddit he probably hadn’t heard a bad word about him. Similarly, she’d probably never heard a word in his defence.

When men and women talk only to themselves, they have little incentive to understand each other’s views or to moderate their language in sympathy. Joe Rogan, a podcaster and stand-up comedian with an enormous following among young men, stands with one foot in the cultural mainstream (Elon Musk smoked weed on his podcast) and the other in a stagnant pond of 1970s comedy sexism: “Ladies, I love you, but let’s be honest, you don’t invent a lot of shit” runs one “joke”. On Twitter, I squirm at ironic memes which call to #banallmen or which declare #allmenaretrash. While men are undoubtedly the worst offenders, none of this language encourages understanding between the sexes.

The division between men and women fostered by the internet has more extreme manifestations, almost all of them male. MGTOW (Men Going Their Own Way) is an online community which holds that mainstream society has become so feminised and anti-patriarchal that men should distance themselves from it for their own safety, especially avoiding marriage or cohabitation with women.

The online segregation of men and women has also resulted in extreme, regressive visions of gender relations, threatening the progress we’ve made in equality. MGTOW belongs to a broader group of misogynistic internet communities known collectively as the “manosphere”. Incels (involuntary celibates) are violently misogynistic and believe advances in sexual equality and women’s rights since the 1960s have deprived low-status men of sex and fulfilment — several shootings have been linked to men associated with the movement. Another manosphere philosophy known as “Red Pill” teaches that sexism is a lie, feminism is toxic and life is much tougher for men than for women.

All these movements advocate a return to 1950s (or earlier) standards of sexual inequality. Instagram influencers with huge female audiences like Kylie Jenner and Kim Kardashian promote a cult of hyper-stereotyped feminine beauty that seems to belong to an older, more regressive era. At this year’s Met Gala in New York, Kardashian wore a corset so tight she described it as the most painful experience of her life. Later the actress Elle Fanning fainted because of a vintage corset.

Cultural differences have always existed between men and women. But since the advent of modern feminism in the 1960s, there has been a general movement towards equality and better understanding between the sexes. When men and women work side by side and hang out in the same bars together old gender divisions erode or seem less important. The internet’s toxic, gender-segregated clubs threaten that hard-won progress.

InsideSmoke · 2019-10-07T08:15:15+00:00

He looks like tender chicken

BrokenBarbell · 2019-10-07T07:55:33+00:00

This guy looks sooo beeettaaa

gtowerthrowaway · 2019-10-07T07:45:59+00:00

Laying the "intellectual groundwork" (snicker) for the coming purge.

Borgmeister · 2019-10-07T08:19:50+00:00

[deleted]

Title	Made the UK's newspaper of record - as you can imagine it's negative in outlook
Author	Borgmeister
Upvotes	11
Comments	14
Date	October 7, 2019 7:31 AM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/deg659/made_the_uks_newspaper_of_record_as_you_can/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MGTOW/made-the-uks-newspaper-of-record-as-you-can.395953 https://theredarchive.com/post/395953

Comments