Lying: Why it's the worst sexual strategy...

420KUSHBUSH · 2017-03-28T21:41:15+00:00

I agree because being direct with women always works out the best for me but

"Look. I love our friendship. I think we have a great connection. It's real easy to talk to you and we bond over the same stuff. But the way you smell just turns me on. And, sometimes, I catch myself wanting to bend you over. Our friendship is primary to me. Nothing we do or don't do will change that. But... if you're ever bored or lonely... I'd love to show you how much I appreciate your body."

oh man.

thatblokefrombelow · 2017-03-28T23:26:17+00:00

Of course you can lie to women.

Ask them if they tink you're lying. They will say yes and you stare back with shit eating grin

They know you lie. They might even confront you, cry and send long text messages at 230 am...

But they love you, because you never admit to lying. You never release frame and they love you even though you lie. And it's okay.

Because Women lie too

1Bigfatblob · 2017-03-28T22:29:59+00:00

Honesty is great. Honestly, you should read the side bar.

whatsthisgarg · 2017-03-28T22:56:40+00:00

You are HIGH on DM or something. This is mostly garbage.

There was one worthwhile thing you wrote, and it sounds lifted from a post from a week or two ago about "stop trying to prove to women you're a good guy":

every time you lie to a woman, and pretend you don't want her body, you are literally doing the single least attractive thing you could possibly do, with a woman.

I just looked it up, it was /u/Woujo . check his submitted.

But your little scenario at the end, that is pathetic and will get you branded as a creep. Unless all that talk was in your head.

By coincidence, there was another thread about having female friends a couple of weeks ago, and the subject of sex with same female friends came up. I have many fond memories of fucking the hell out of 9 or 10 of my female friends, and remaining friends with them after, and it sure as shit didn't happen because I talked about it. It happened, in every case, because I just got physical with them. If my mouth was open it was to suck on her tits.

Tell her how she turns you on. Tell her what you want. Tell her your friendship is in no way contingent on you hooking up... ... But... if she needs some good lovin'... you'll make her feel like a woman.

And then let her tell you I only think of you as a friend. I don't want to mess that up.

And LOL.

UrsusG · 2017-03-28T21:59:02+00:00

I have the flu

Figures. You need to re-read what you wrote once your fever subsides.

Basically telling us to JBY and offer her the ol' lickaroo.

You also seem to be defining 'lying' very narrowly and situationally, when in reality there's much more to it.

Being 100% truthful with women only works in brothels.

nicetimeisback · 2017-03-29T12:42:26+00:00

Women lie most of the time anyway, and they lack the capability to understand what truth is in the first place.

99% of a woman smv is the product of lies (Bluepill society indoctrination, makeup, LIES they say about everything in their regards, "I'm a sweet princess looking for a nice guy who treat me well and is just himself, and never lie to me".

You believe all the bp shit that comes out from women, and here you are telling us how the best strategy is to never lie.

Fail

BullshittingNonsense · 2017-03-28T22:52:43+00:00

"It's not a lie if you believe it." What is truth anyway, friend?

max_peenor · 2017-03-28T23:45:25+00:00

There are two problems with lying. 1) It means you need to sell something to the woman to earn her affections. You have already lost if this is the case. Moar lift and moar sidebar. She should be selling her to you. 2) You feel the need to say more than you really need to say. Unless you are a clown, which can be a successful strategy at time, less is more when it comes to communicating with women. They should be doing the majority of yapping, which suits them fine anyway.

OneRedSock · 2017-03-29T15:23:32+00:00

In college, I would constantly babysit 4 girls: my GF and three of her friends. I remember one time I was talking about honesty and how important it was to me (my BP was out of control), and how you need to always tell the truth. Her friend, one of the most hippy, pro-feminist (she was from Portland, OR) types flat out said "that doesn't work for women, you can't always be honest".

This is just one personal example, but as it came straight from the horse's mouth, I'm inclined to believe it. Women do want the little white lies to feel validated. The OP is painting with a wide brush, and shows how little life experience they have; not just with women, but with people in general.

There are varying degrees of lies, and which you choose to use are your own prerogative based on your moral values. Use small and big lies to your advantage, or don't. At the end of the day, all she cares about is the feelings. If she feels betrayed, you admitted to the lie and fucked up. As someone who's made plenty of apologies in previous relationships, they get tired of hearing "sorry" very quickly. Also, it makes you a bitch.

vorenak · 2017-03-29T00:22:58+00:00

It seems to be working pretty well if you are a woman.

Rommel0502 · 2017-03-29T01:42:06+00:00

Improve yourself to the point where you don't have to lie about anything. The truth will be just fine on its own ...

ArkAngelEV · 2017-03-29T16:56:44+00:00

Thanks for the post. I want to agree with the majority of what you said; but experience tells me differently.

The most successful/effective guys that lay tons of girls? Scumbags that lie through their teeth. Next tier of effectiveness? Guys who look respectable but lie and NEVER admit to it. Even in the face of irrefutable evidence. Even against a firing squad of shrieking bitches.

What the fuck, are they your mom or dad? Never admit, never apologize.

Ovadox · 2017-03-29T10:59:24+00:00

This distills down to " just be yourself". That's only a valid strategy if you're already successful. If not, you need to change and adapt. Learning any new skill is awkward at first but then you get more practice and soon it's natural.

Title	Lying: Why it's the worst sexual strategy...
Author	bravezombie
Upvotes	6
Comments	52
Date	March 28, 2017 9:33 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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